1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:02,510 CASSIE: Of all the names and numbers in the diary... 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,150 Elizabeth Wilton... 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,670 I did what I did because he made me. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,750 He made you join the National Front? 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,550 .. Frank Phillip Cross... 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,470 PINION: Frank was very good at getting money that was owed to us. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,390 - He liked the bolt cutters. - It's not true. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,830 - .. Eric Slater... - Yeah, I knew Jimmy. Nice lad. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,750 - Jo-Jo? - She was at it in one of the storage rooms. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,190 Yeah, with what's his face from St Gildas. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,790 - I'm sorry. I don't feel very well. - Dad? 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,070 I never got it out, you know? You need a cold soak first. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,870 It's blood, isn't it? 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,750 SUNNY: He only went into a wheelchair in his mid-30s. 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,400 So in '76, he was perfectly able. 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,280 ♪ OH WONDER: All We Do 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 ♪ All we do is hide away 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,240 ♪ All we do is, All we do is hide away 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,760 ♪ All we do is lie in wait 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,840 ♪ All we do is, All we do is lie in wait 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,270 ♪ I have been upside down 22 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,950 ♪ I don't wanna be the right way round 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,600 ♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪ 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,990 SUNNY: So later on last night, about half-ten, 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,390 Aisha comes into my room to tell me that Gemma has -- once again -- 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,470 been Snapchatting pictures of her bottom to some lad in her class. 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,590 - Oh, nice (!) - Two hours later -- two hours -- 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,390 I finally managed to find her phone and confiscate it. 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,790 Yeah, and it probably isn't even a lad in her class. 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,520 It's probably some retired colonel from East Grinstead posing as him. 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,510 Guv, sometimes the things you say just... just make me feel worse. 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,630 Hashtag 'Just saying'. 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,740 OK? (CLEARS THROAT) 34 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,920 (GEESE HONKING) 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,510 LES: Yeah, no, it looks worse than it actually is. 36 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,270 Exactly. Yeah, I'll get one of those rubber bath mats. 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,310 All right then, love. OK. I'll be back in about 20 minutes. 38 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,750 Bye. 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Right. Here we go. 40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Thanks, matey. 41 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Come on, Mother. Tuck in. 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,110 - I don't want to be here, Les. - Change the record, love. 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,830 I want to be somewhere safe. 44 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,350 - I know. I -- - No, she's safe here. 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,400 Please? 46 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,960 Dad, I -- 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,510 Dad! 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,590 One more word, one more fucking word from either of you! 49 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:05,640 Will you calm down?! 50 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,830 You did slip, didn't you, Mum? 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Of course. 52 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,510 Thomas Pinion is a lifelong alcoholic, 53 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,470 who could say one thing to you, another to me 54 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,270 and another to a newspaper. 55 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,510 Who will also, of course, be paying him. 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,150 As, indeed, he said erm, you were... 57 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,520 to stay silent about your activities with the Fenwick family. 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,830 Except he's lying. 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:02,430 His bank records confirm six sums of £2,000 paid into his account, 60 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,070 over a period of five years from 2004. 61 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,550 And what proof do you have this has anything to do with my client? 62 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,950 Er, no proof, yet. Because they were cash. 63 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,070 But obviously, if we went through your business records 64 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,830 and found any petty cash transactions matching these sums... 65 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,830 we'd be concerned. 66 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,110 Look. I fully admit... 67 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,190 for a few months 40 years ago, 68 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,030 I associated with some people I sincerely wish I hadn't. 69 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,080 But... 70 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,040 If I was the sort of person who could've done what you allege... 71 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,310 .. could I really be what I am now? 72 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,150 Quite a lot of people might say it was an essential qualification. 73 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,030 (CHUCKLES) 74 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,240 People make mistakes. 75 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 That doesn't make me a murderer. 76 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,280 Hm. 77 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,840 (SIREN WAILING) 78 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,550 What you waiting about for, lads? 79 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,830 Come on, five laps, easy jog. 80 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,110 - (CLAPPING HANDS) - Where's Curtis? 81 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,150 No idea. Why? 82 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,350 Come on, lads. Let's be 'aving you. 83 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,390 - Maybe he ain't here cos of her. - Why's that, then, mate? 84 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,230 - Just heard some things, innit? - Yeah? What things? 85 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,030 - 'Bout dem bitch! - Don't you ever... 86 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,230 talk about my wife, like that. 87 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:39,230 - You get me, BLUD? - OK, man. 88 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,950 - Ever. - OK, I get it, I get it! 89 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Whatever Curtis told you... 90 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,510 .. ANY of you... 91 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,160 whatever he thinks he heard, I'm telling you he got it wrong! 92 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,400 You got that? 93 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,600 (GULLS SQUAWKING) 94 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:14,280 (DOOR OPENS) 95 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,990 Rob, it's half-five and you have Mass. 96 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,990 I need you to sit down. 97 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,510 I need to tell you something. 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,720 I don't need to sit down. What is it? 99 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,910 What do you need to tell me? 100 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,230 The young man the police were asking me about -- 101 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:38,160 and I promise I really don't know anything about how he died. 102 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,110 But the real reason they were talking to me 103 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,270 was because I had a connection to him that wasn't just work. 104 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,280 It was a woman. 105 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,630 A young woman called Joanna. 106 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,480 - Who used to -- - I remember Joanna. 107 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,920 She was a girl, not a woman. 108 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,430 A young girl. 109 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,590 A young person. 110 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,430 Who I am ashamed to tell you now 111 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,980 that I had a very, very brief relationship with. 112 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,310 So sorry, Grace. 113 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,350 It was 39 years ago but... 114 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,560 I can't imagine that makes it any easier to hear now. 115 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,270 As I say, it was fleeting. 116 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,660 It was a few weeks at most. 117 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,190 But it was a shameful thing to do. 118 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,720 And all I can do now is... is beg your forgiveness. 119 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,580 What year was this? 120 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,560 1976. 121 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,840 We only got married the year before. 122 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,430 It was a terrible mistake. 123 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,360 And I am so, so sorry. 124 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,150 So in June 1973... 125 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Slater was arrested following a fight outside a pub in Kentish Town. 126 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,830 - What he get? - Bound over. Victim didn't turn up. 127 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,150 The victim? What was this? It an assault or -- 128 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,150 It's confusing. The arresting officer has it down as a fight 129 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,350 but it's listed as an assault in the courts. 130 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,870 - Have you got the name of the plaintiff? - Yeah. 131 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,830 Name of Paul Brian West. 132 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,950 I spoke to his sister. West himself died five years ago but... 133 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,310 - she said she didn't know anything. - Ah, OK. 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,510 Jake? 135 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:37,830 Slightly like pulling teeth, guv. 136 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,830 I've got 50 possible names here, hostel residents at Arlingham House 137 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,870 that might have known Elizabeth Lawes or Erskine, 138 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,990 and for every single name I've got 30, 40 people in the same name, 139 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,030 and they're all Duncan Morrison or Wendy Haines or -- 140 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,910 Yeah, OK, OK. 141 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,030 I suspect it's time we got a picture of Jimmy into the papers. 142 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,830 - Sunny, will you talk to the DPA? - Yeah, no problem. 143 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,630 - Murray, any joy with Jo-Jo? - Nothing on the census. 144 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,910 What about Greaves's phone records? 145 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,750 No, all the numbers he rang from his mobile, his landline are kosher. 146 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,150 OK um, find out where the nearest payphone is to his house, 147 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,990 and see if BT will provide us with every number rung from there 148 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,910 from... When did you call his dioceses for contact details? 149 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,510 Er... Monday PM, just after lunch. 150 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,070 Yeah, from Monday midday till midnight same day. 151 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,120 It's worth a try. 152 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,670 Robert Greaves had a relationship with Jimmy Sullivan's girlfriend. 153 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,460 Now, if Jimmy found out, got mad... 154 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,200 .. went round to confront him... 155 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,110 .. who knows where that ended? 156 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Well, except maybe Jo-Jo does. 157 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,590 Suze, have a look at this, will you? 158 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,950 It's his scaphoid, which is split -- post-mortem I assumed, 159 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,310 except when I put the two bits together, 160 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,390 that's a hole, isn't it? 161 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,350 Like something's been driven through it. 162 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,670 Something like a... nail. 163 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,920 I've seen it before with gangland punishment murders. 164 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,110 'A nail hammered through the hand.' 165 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,750 Very often a precursor to other forms of torture. 166 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,800 - All right. Thanks. - 'You're welcome.' 167 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,630 CROSS: If Pinion's lies are all the police have, 168 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:40,550 I wouldn't be too worried. 169 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,910 But couple of days ago, Gordon Fenwick... 170 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,880 called me from Cyprus, threatening to go to the police himself with... 171 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,510 .. with some other stuff. 172 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,310 - What other stuff? - More lies, detail's not really important. 173 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,680 What is important is what the police might believe. 174 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,790 - And he wants money? - Course. 175 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,840 S-So what are you gonna do? 176 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Your Turkish friends... 177 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,510 .. I might need you to call them for me. 178 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,430 I'm not talking anything stupid, just a quiet word. 179 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,430 For a man like Fenwick, I suspect that'll be enough. 180 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,390 Dad, are you sure? That is quite a move. 181 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,510 Gordon Fenwick could get me jailed for murder, 182 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:31,480 a murder I had absolutely nothing to do with. 183 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 We need him to back off. 184 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,520 And fast. 185 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,430 Yeah, what I wanna know is if it's possible 186 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,950 to tell me what numbers were called from this payphone 187 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,230 from midday on the 23rd to approximately midnight. 188 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,710 Brilliant. Yeah, great. 189 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,720 Yeah. 190 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,190 ERIC: Yeah, I think it was probably the only fight... 191 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,590 I ever got into. I-I'd had a skinful, 192 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,710 as I remember, and I think he had as well. 193 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,430 Right. Do you remember what it was about? 194 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,390 Football. I'm afraid. 195 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,150 I'm a Blade. For my sins. He was a Gooner. 196 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,430 I think we'd just beaten them and one of us must've said something. 197 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,510 It all kicked off... Stupid, just stupid, really. 198 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,830 I mean, put it down to the impetuosity of youth. 199 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,870 Hopefully I've grown up a bit since then. (CHUCKLES) 200 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,230 In the court documents, it has it down as you assaulting him, 201 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,990 which er... implies that you started it. 202 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,630 Well... then I expect I did. 203 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,310 I mean, you know, I was drunk. As I say. I... 204 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,550 I can't really remember an awful lot about it. 205 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,440 Sorry. 206 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,110 Yeah, my real name's Alan Mackay, but everyone calls me Mackie. 207 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,950 Well, thanks so much for getting in touch. 208 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,590 And just so I can be absolutely clear, 209 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,030 as well as Jimmy, I think you said you knew Vincent Erskine as well. 210 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,950 Vince? Yeah. And Beth, his girlfriend. 211 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,630 - You knew Elizabeth? - 'I did, aye.' 212 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,110 OK, Mackie, could I come talk to you, please? 213 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,900 Er, soon as possible would be good. 214 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,990 I mean, do you think it was just a one-off or...? 215 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,230 I don't know. We didn't get that far. 216 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,710 But if he could've done it once, got away with it... 217 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,310 why shouldn't there have been others? 218 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,270 - Mum, I'm so sorry. - I am, too. 219 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,310 For you both. 220 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,300 I mean, I suppose all you can say is... 221 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,230 .. it was 40 years ago and... 222 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,790 And what? 223 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,550 What, you think that makes it better? 224 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,910 Jesus, it makes it worse! Ellie, it's our whole lives. 225 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,790 Our whole relationship with him feels like a lie. 226 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,350 Does it? 227 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,430 Look, he's... He's still our dad. 228 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,830 I mean, clearly he made a terrible mistake but -- 229 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,750 But... But what? I can't believe you're defending him. 230 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,470 I'm not defending what he did. I'm... I'm trying to find a way through this. 231 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,030 He had sex with a child, for God's sake! 232 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,550 Caz, she wasn't a child. She was 17. 233 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,990 If he'd have been caught today, he would go to prison. 234 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,630 - Do you not get that? - Of course I get that, but I... 235 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,310 But what? 236 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,950 What, they were different times? 237 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,790 Bollocks. 238 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,430 She was a kid. She was one of his congregation. 239 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,830 He was in a position of power and he abused it. 240 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,910 I'm sorry if you think I'm overreacting. 241 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,160 But I am scared. 242 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,880 It makes me ask... what sort of man is he really? 243 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,280 Why are the police asking him about this boy that was found? 244 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,760 It makes me ask what else he could've done. 245 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,430 MACKIE: It was only her that stayed at the hostel. 246 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,790 - JAKE: Elizabeth? - Erskine wasn't allowed to stay cos he always got into fights. 247 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,470 - Right. - Anyway, I got talking to him in the garden one day, 248 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,190 cos at that time I was still using. 249 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,790 I let him spout his racist rubbish for a bit. 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,790 Until he started talking about this black lad he reckoned had some money on him. 251 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,630 And he wanted to know whether I fancied 252 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,830 helping him rob the lad that night in his room. 253 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,950 And was this just him, or was Beth there too? 254 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,710 Well... She was there, like, you know, in the background, 255 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,790 but er... not actually part of the conversation. 256 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,590 And so what did you say? 257 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,670 Well... I didn't say much, 258 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,830 because I didn't want him to know that er... 259 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,870 that Jimmy was actually a good friend of mine. 260 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,950 You know, and obviously I was gonna warn him. 261 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,520 - And did you warn him? - I went to look for him but er... 262 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,590 Somebody offered me some gear. 263 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,150 By the time I was straight again it was two days later. 264 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,600 And sir, did you find out if he'd been robbed? 265 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200 No, I didn't. 266 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,360 In fact, I... I never saw Jimmy again. 267 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Looks just like one of our lads. 268 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,920 Don't he? 269 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,910 I remember when erm... 270 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,870 you first suggested that we should start up the er, football squad. 271 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,670 It wasn't long after Michael had died, 272 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:28,720 and I always thought that it was er, your way of finding some meaning... 273 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,120 .. out of HIS death. 274 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,750 If you think I killed this boy, Ray... 275 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,830 just say it. 276 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,020 How can I know, Lizzie? 277 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,480 How could I have any idea of what you were capable of? 278 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Back then. 279 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,590 MAUREEN: We stopped at the services for some supper, 280 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,550 which was very nice, and then got back here about 11:00. 281 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,510 CASSIE: 'And what have you got on today?' 282 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,190 Oh, Thursday's lunch club, every week. 283 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,390 Lunch club? Why wasn't I invited? 284 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,590 Well, I'll put you down for next week so. 285 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,470 'Yeah. Yeah, I'll be there.' 286 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,270 Ah, they're a good gang. 287 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,710 'I was telling them about you, you know, and... 288 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,910 about Jimmy coming home and er, they were very happy for me.' 289 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,590 He rang her from the callbox. 290 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,720 Jo-Jo. Her name's Joanna Bridges. 291 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,920 We found Jo-Jo. 292 00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:37,570 Tell me how you met Jimmy Sullivan. 293 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:40,130 I met Jimmy through the church. 294 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:43,370 Went out with him for... maybe six months. 295 00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:46,780 Oh, this was before or after your relationship with Father Robert? 296 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:49,370 After. 297 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:53,020 So when was your relationship with Father Robert? 298 00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:56,170 Late 1975, as I remember. 299 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:58,220 How late? 300 00:18:58,420 --> 00:19:00,410 Just before Christmas. November, I think. 301 00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:02,690 I mean, it was just a few weeks. 302 00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:06,490 So Father Robert said to us that he thought you were erm... 303 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:09,810 19 or 20 when he met you. 304 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:13,570 And so we checked your date of birth before we came here today. 305 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:18,700 And actually, if your affair was in November '75... 306 00:19:21,020 --> 00:19:23,960 .. actually, that would've made you 15. 307 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:27,130 When the 28-year-old priest had sex with you. 308 00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:31,740 You weren't 16 till February 1976. 309 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,050 Maybe it was Jimmy first and then Robert. 310 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:41,090 Except we have a diary, given to Jimmy... by you. 311 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:44,930 Erm, in which it says 'With much love, Jo-Jo.' 312 00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:47,250 In December '75. 313 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:50,460 Which suggests that either you did... 314 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:54,850 .. have underage sex with a priest... 315 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,840 or at some point after your birthday... 316 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,490 - .. you were seeing both men, - It was half a lifetime ago. 317 00:20:01,540 --> 00:20:03,130 What the hell does it matter? 318 00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:05,650 It matters because we think that Jimmy found out 319 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:08,090 about Robert Greaves and confronted him. 320 00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:11,980 And that altercation may have resulted in Jimmy's death. 321 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,500 And what proof have you got of that? 322 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:26,810 - And how credible do you think he is as a witness? - JAKE: 'Very.' 323 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:29,130 This guy knew other stuff I thought only we knew. 324 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:31,330 SUNNY: 'What other stuff?' 325 00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:35,450 The £50 we think Jimmy borrowed from Frank Cross, he knew all about that. 326 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:38,490 'And, more importantly, he knew what it was for.' 327 00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:41,290 - Which was? - 'To pay for an abortion.' 328 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:44,890 Jimmy told Alan Mackay that his girlfriend had fallen pregnant. 329 00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:47,890 - And Jimmy was the father? - Why else would he pay for it? 330 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:51,850 - Cos she said he was. - I'll ask my man exactly what Jimmy told him. 331 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:54,330 OK. It's lots to think about. 332 00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:56,930 Let's bring Elizabeth Wilton in ASAP. 333 00:20:56,980 --> 00:21:00,730 Excellent work, Jake. Murray, any joy with Tommy Pinion? 334 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:05,530 He said that he'd never seen Cross put a nail through anyone's hand 335 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:07,970 but heard from others that he had. 336 00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:11,010 'Well, Dr Rawlins is pretty convinced that's what it is, so... 337 00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:14,490 somebody did it. We keep the pressure on Cross.' 338 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:16,540 (HANGS UP) 339 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:34,930 Yes, it's me. 340 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:37,010 Why did Fenwick send those to you? 341 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:39,410 Well, I'm guessing he's already contacted Dad 342 00:21:39,460 --> 00:21:41,800 and Dad isn't playing ball. 343 00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:46,850 Well... the man in those pictures is white. 344 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,490 That lad in the papers was black. 345 00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:50,650 He's still nailing his hand to a workbench, Mum. 346 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:53,290 I'm just saying. 347 00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:55,370 There's nothing in these to suggest 348 00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:57,850 he had anything to do with killing that lad. 349 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:01,820 Fine. But trust me, he doesn't want the police to see these. 350 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:06,170 I should also say that the images obviously depict a crime scene, 351 00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:08,690 which, as of now, I've failed to act upon. 352 00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:10,850 So if Fenwick doesn't get what he wants, 353 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:14,220 and he shows his email to me to the police, we're BOTH screwed. 354 00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:18,340 I'll pay him off. I have before. 355 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:23,180 - Fenwick? - Yes. 356 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:27,020 How many times? 357 00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:33,740 - A few. - (KNOCKING) 358 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,100 It's the police. 359 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,100 (CHATTER) 360 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,380 Hey, Mum. 361 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,490 Hello, my lovely son. How completely gorgeous to see you. 362 00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:19,210 Tell me you're staying for months. 363 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:24,610 Have you any actual proof -- other than Pinion's fantasies -- 364 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:28,260 that I did anything like this, to Jimmy Sullivan? 365 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:30,330 We have a wound on Jimmy's hand 366 00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:33,880 that's entirely consistent with such an assault. 367 00:23:35,020 --> 00:23:37,690 But nothing connecting that to me? 368 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:39,970 Not yet. 369 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:43,220 But I sense we're getting closer. Don't you? 370 00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,490 So we'll probably go to Faliraki now. 371 00:23:47,540 --> 00:23:50,130 Nige's brother's got a bar there and he said me and Belter 372 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:52,610 can have a room for three nights a week bar work. 373 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:54,730 Mind you, that's if Belter sorts out his teeth. 374 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:58,170 His girlfriend smacked him with a table tennis bat cos he joked about her art. 375 00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:00,090 (CHUCKLES) 376 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,250 What? 377 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,700 - Keep going. - Why are you smiling like that? 378 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,010 Because I love you. 379 00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:11,460 Just keep talking. Just keep telling me stuff. 380 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:15,610 Well, anyway, he's gotta have two implants now, 381 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:17,330 and Nige says he should to go India. 382 00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:20,810 His dad got eight new teeth in Delhi for less than a grand. 383 00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:23,210 His mouth doesn't shut properly but his missus says 384 00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:26,050 keeping his mouth shut was never a core skill anyway, so... 385 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:27,850 "Plus ca change," as Proust would say. 386 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,570 Do you want fried bread with this? 387 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,850 Yo, Curtis, fam. 388 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:13,690 Call me. 389 00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:15,940 (GULLS SQUAWKING) 390 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,300 Dad? 391 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:25,260 Up here. 392 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:33,140 (SIGHS) 393 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:36,330 I don't know what to say. 394 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:40,850 I'd hoped that Mum didn't feel that she had to tell you now. 395 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,330 - She told us cos of the wedding. - Oh, no, sweetheart, please, 396 00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:46,450 surely this doesn't affect the wedding? 397 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:50,000 It's a celebration of the sanctity of marriage. 398 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:52,060 Conducted by you. 399 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,930 It was a terrible thing to do. 400 00:25:56,980 --> 00:25:59,970 I completely accept that, but it was... 401 00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:03,330 one mistake, 40 years ago. 402 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:06,380 In an otherwise very, very happy marriage. 403 00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:10,090 One mistake. 404 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:13,740 And was it? Really? 405 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,650 Well, yes, of course. 406 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,060 - There was no-one else. - I don't mean other women, I mean... 407 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:24,660 Th... 408 00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:27,730 This police investigation. 409 00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:30,580 Oh, my darling, no, no, please. 410 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:36,100 Please. Don't ask me if I killed that poor boy. 411 00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:38,970 Please. 412 00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:41,290 Don't make me answer that. 413 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,060 Please. 414 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:50,610 BETH: Yes. 415 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,900 We robbed him. 416 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:57,300 - CASSIE: Of his £50? - Yes. 417 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:02,090 So everything that you told us before... 418 00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:05,530 that you have no recollection of ever having met him... 419 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,530 that was a lie? 420 00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:09,570 Yes. 421 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:11,970 (CASSIE WRITES) 422 00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:14,330 I wished I could forget him. 423 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,780 Every single day of my life. 424 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,260 So can you tell me how Jimmy died? 425 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:27,970 I wouldn't for one second expect you to believe me... 426 00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:29,770 but no. 427 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:33,010 When I left the room with the money... 428 00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:35,180 Jimmy was fine. 429 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:40,540 - Erskine was still in there? - Yes. 430 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:45,130 And did erm, he have any weapon with him? 431 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:48,020 - Not that I recall. - OK. 432 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,600 - So where did you go? - Outside, to wait for him. 433 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,890 And how long did he take to come down? 434 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:00,890 Not long. Maybe... 435 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,700 - 30 seconds behind me. - Right. 436 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:08,530 And what did he say? 437 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:11,580 - When he came down. - He was laughing. 438 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:16,260 Said Jimmy was a "feisty little bastard". 439 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:22,810 - Did he have any blood on him? - I don't think so. 440 00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:25,330 He might've done. I... 441 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:28,420 was very drunk, so certain details... 442 00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:34,290 You... obviously thought so little of this young man 443 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:37,530 that you were able to rob him in his bed. 444 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:42,460 Yet your name and number were written down by him in his diary. 445 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,210 How did that happen? 446 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:48,410 When I first met Jimmy, 447 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:52,420 it was during a period when I tried to split up with Erskine. 448 00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:56,780 Only lasted a few weeks before he got me back, but in that time... 449 00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:01,320 .. I stopped drinking, I got clean. 450 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:05,200 And Jimmy and I got to know each other a bit. 451 00:29:07,460 --> 00:29:10,410 And I gave him my number... 452 00:29:10,460 --> 00:29:12,770 cos I hoped... 453 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,820 (SNIFFS) 454 00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:19,140 .. just like... 455 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:23,480 .. in the few weeks when I'd been straight... 456 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:31,500 .. that he'd carry on helping teach me to read and write. 457 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:43,610 - Hm. - Did you expect that? 458 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:48,130 Guv? It might be nothing, but... 459 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:49,930 I was just checking out the pub 460 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:53,250 - where Eric Slater and Paul West were arrested -- the assault? - Yeah. 461 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,730 Don't know if it's significant but... 462 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:58,780 it's a gay pub. It has been since, well... 463 00:29:59,620 --> 00:30:01,490 .. since the '60s. 464 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,550 So if we forget him committing the slightly illegal offence of threatening to kill Fenwick -- 465 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,550 - He never said that, Bella. - Maybe the only other serious option 466 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,470 is for him to go to the police himself with the photos. 467 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,750 If the police see those photos, it's not gonna be good for him. 468 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,590 Probably not, no. 469 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,150 So what's the minimum term for murder? 470 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,790 A mandatory life sentence. 471 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,350 In a case like this, he'd serve at least 15 years. 472 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,510 So he'd not get out until he was in his 80s? 473 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,190 If in fact he... 474 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,230 In fact, he might not even make it that far. 475 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,680 - It would effectively widow Mum. - Except, what if he did it? 476 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,670 Because to me, never mind that it was 40 years ago, 477 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,430 or who or what he is now, or that he's our dad, 478 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,280 if he did it... he has to be punished. 479 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320 Doesn't he? 480 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,040 All right? 481 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,510 - 30. - (TILL BLEEPING AND OPENING) 482 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,560 (RATTLE OF COINS) 483 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Thanks. 484 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080 (CHATTER) 485 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Curtis? Curtis? 486 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200 - Where you going, mate? - Home. 487 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,590 Really? I thought you were smarter than that. 488 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,870 Actually missing an exam? 489 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,750 So you're gonna throw away three years of hard work, are you? 490 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,710 - Just like that? - If you think it'll really piss her off, yeah. 491 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,230 Sorry, are you talking about the woman who took you into our house? 492 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,870 Fed you. Treated you like her son. 493 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,190 I've already got one fucked-up mum! I don't need another. 494 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,040 You little shit! 495 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,790 Curtis? 496 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,980 I'm sorry, Curtis. I... 497 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,710 I'm sorry. 498 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,190 Elizabeth Wilton, you've been charged with assault 499 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,470 and the intent to rob, under Section Eight of the Theft Act 1968. 500 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,990 You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence 501 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,830 if you do not mention now anything you later rely on in court. 502 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,590 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 503 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,110 Do you understand the charge? 504 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,030 Yes. (SIGHS) I remember the assault. 505 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,030 He was devastated by it. 506 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,110 But it was an assault, not a fight, yeah? 507 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,910 - Eric Slater attacked your brother? - Yes. 508 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Will you tell me why? 509 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Because of where he was drinking. 510 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,790 - Because of what he was. - He was gay? 511 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840 Yes. 512 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,750 Do you know why he didn't turn up at court? 513 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,350 Because if it had come out... 514 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400 (CHUCKLES) 515 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,710 The idea that being gay was such a shameful thing... 516 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880 I'm not sure many people understand that now but... 517 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,230 .. he'd have lost his job. 518 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,710 Most people thought that what he was was disgusting, 519 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,710 and let me tell you, he was convinced... 520 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,460 that if that police officer hadn't been passing... 521 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280 .. Eric Slater would've beaten him to death. 522 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,790 So Eric Slater... 523 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,350 violently assaults a gay man... 524 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,070 a year or so before Jimmy was killed. 525 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,590 - According to her. - Yes, according to her. 526 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,510 Cos there's nothing -- absolutely nothing -- 527 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,390 that we've learnt about Jimmy that suggests he was gay. 528 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,870 Now, if we're saying that his murder was some sort of homophobia-motivated thing... 529 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,920 (SIGHS) 530 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,270 Look, you'd better call the girls. 531 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,880 (STARTS ENGINE) We need to talk to Slater again. 532 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040 (THUMPING MUSIC) 533 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,670 Forget her, man. 534 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,310 I mean, what does she think you are? 535 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,900 Some sorta tame little coconut? 536 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,110 That... 537 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,590 ain't you, fam. 538 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,590 It's what she wants you to be. 539 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,110 You should chuck it out, man. 540 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,160 I ain't no coconut, man. 541 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800 (SCREAMS) 542 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,040 - LES: Thanks, mate. - MAN: Cheers. 543 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,950 Mr Slater? Sorry to disturb you. You're obviously busy. 544 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Is your father around? Just need to have another quick chat. 545 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,710 Like a bad penny, you lot. 546 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,300 (ERIC TALKING IN ADJACENT ROOM) 547 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,510 I don't care what he told his sister. That's not what happened. 548 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,910 Right, so this wasn't an unprovoked attack? 549 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,030 Yeah, it's what I said it was. 550 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,720 So... you've never had any problems with gay men? 551 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,070 No. 552 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,310 His sister told us that you were waiting for him outside. 553 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,710 - No, I was drinking IN the pub. - You knew it was a gay bar? 554 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,280 No idea. 555 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,510 Right, so you didn't notice that it was an entirely male clientele when you went in? 556 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,630 I've absolutely no idea if I did or I didn't. 557 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,390 This was the '70s. Most pubs were pretty exclusively full of men. 558 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,430 Why do you think he told his sister that you were outside? 559 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,390 I don't know. You know, as I say... 560 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,270 he was fairly drunk as well. Maybe he just got it wrong, 561 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,270 or she's mistaking this fight for another, 562 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,510 or she's remembered it wrongly. I don't know. 563 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,150 Think back 40 years, 564 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,630 think of something significant that happened to you. 565 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,350 How much detail can you remember now? 566 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,310 It... It-It's a lifetime ago. 567 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,630 She's remembered it wrong. 568 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,070 Did you ever wonder whether Jimmy Sullivan was gay? 569 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,550 Wh... 570 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,510 Jimmy? Wh-Why would I have thought that? 571 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,990 The last time you were here, 572 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840 we were talking about his girlfriend. 573 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,630 We didn't mention his girlfriend. 574 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,910 - Nor did you. - Jo-Jo. We talked about her. 575 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,900 Only in connection with Robert Greaves. 576 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,910 Yeah. 577 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,190 (STUTTERING) Yeah, well, I assumed you already knew 578 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,510 that she and Jimmy had had a thing. 579 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160 Why would you have assumed that? 580 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,510 Why would you have not mentioned 581 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,510 what was clearly a very important piece of information? 582 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,880 Unless you were trying to steer our focus towards Robert Greaves. 583 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,630 I don't know. 584 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,950 I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said, this is all ancient history. 585 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,430 I forget stuff. But er... 586 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,030 please, trust me... 587 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920 you're way... way off being here. 588 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,270 So? What do you think? 589 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,310 I believed him. 590 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,360 Yeah, me too. 591 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640 This case is like trying to... grab hold of fog. 592 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,750 I don't know, maybe you were right. Maybe it is all just too long ago. 593 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,910 - No -- - Cos this feels slightly insane. 594 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,750 Trying to find some sort of truth in that? 595 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600 In people's utterly fucked memories. 596 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,710 We'll get there, guv. 597 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440 (THUNDER) 598 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,870 Dad? 599 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,710 - All right? - Yeah, fine. Y-You OK? 600 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680 Yeah. Fine. (CHUCKLES) 601 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,600 Come on, then, dopey. Let's get this party started. 602 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,960 I know it's only small, but... 603 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,580 Oh, it's lovely. Thank you. 604 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,000 Just what I need. 605 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,270 I just... Erm... You absolutely don't need to tell me anything, 606 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,310 anything at all, but I just... 607 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,550 I want you to know that if you did want someone to talk to... 608 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,590 Thank you. 609 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,840 I might just take you up on that some time. 610 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,750 Well... I'll let you get settled in. 611 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Oh erm, there's one bit of good news. 612 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,910 The police have found some CCTV footage 613 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,070 of someone entering the community hall at the time of the burglary. 614 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,910 They reckon they've got a pretty good screen grab of his face. 615 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,870 They've asked me to go down there tomorrow, 616 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,860 see if I recognise him from the estate. 617 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,000 - Which is good, isn't it? - Yes. Yes. 618 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,670 - (LIVELY CHATTER) - ERIC: It's Andy! 619 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,350 Let me introduce you to Gary Stevens. 620 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,510 Gary was my boss at Andersons. 621 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,150 He was the only man in the whole building who had two secretaries. 622 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,630 One for each knee. (LAUGHTER) 623 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,350 Get yourselves a drink, won't you? 624 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,270 - How are you both keeping? - Are you well? 625 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,670 - Nice to see you... - (DIN OF CHATTER CONTINUES) 626 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,470 How about a rose, Mum? Hmm? 627 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,750 Half a glass won't do you no harm. 628 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,940 Why are we celebrating? 629 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,430 It's your... It's your 45th wedding anniversary, Mum. 630 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,520 No, I know that. But why are we celebrating? 631 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680 (THUNDER) 632 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,830 In conclusion, let me just say that... 633 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,270 that a marriage, it's a bit like a house. 634 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,070 You don't just build it and let it look after itself. 635 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,750 - It needs constant maintenance. - (CHUCKLING) 636 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,030 Doesn't it, sweetheart? 637 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,790 And yes, maybe her plumbing's not all it once was... 638 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,910 - (LAUGHTER) - .. and my guttering, that could do with a good jet-hose. 639 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,910 But the foundations are rock-solid. 640 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,990 So if you will, raise your glasses to my beloved and I. 641 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,270 - Here's to another 45 years! - (CHEERING) 642 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,430 - MAN: 45 years! - WOMAN: Cheers! 643 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,630 ALL SINGING: ♪ Congratulations 644 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,230 ♪ And celebrations 645 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,600 ♪ When I tell everyone that you're in love with me 646 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,310 ♪ Congratulations 647 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,550 ♪ And jubilations 648 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,670 ♪ I want the world to know I'm happy as can be... 649 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,710 - (MUSIC CONTINUES) - WOMAN: How are you feeling? 650 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,830 (LAUGHTER AND CHATTER) 651 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,140 - Mum! - (THUNDER) 652 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,470 Mum! 653 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Mum... 654 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,920 Maybe felt I'd... I'd already put so much in 655 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,150 to our new life here, with you boys 656 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,190 and finding this lovely house and making all our new friends. 657 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,910 I didn't want to give it all up. 658 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,230 Mum. I don't know what you're talking about. 659 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,350 - Let's get you in... - Then he had his accident, 660 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,390 so he wouldn't have been able to hurt anyone anymore anyway. 661 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,270 - What... Sorry? - I think I just tried to bury it all, Les. 662 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,110 What did you say? You said "hurt anyone". 663 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,550 - What do you mean? - And now with my head the way it is 664 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,750 and the police asking all these questions, 665 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,830 it's starting to swirl around in my head. 666 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,830 And the problem is, Les, I... 667 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,320 I've absolutely no idea what's real and what isn't. 668 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040 Lizzie! 669 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,390 SHIRLEY: Yeah, there was stuff he did back then. 670 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,790 Rumours I'd hear, just stuff we never talked about. 671 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,990 (BREATH QUIVERING) 672 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,950 Belle, I don't know what to do if the police start asking me questions. 673 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,280 (CRYING) What do I say? 674 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,640 Hungry? 675 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,710 - SUNNY: Yeah. - JAKE: 'See you when I get back.' 676 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,750 - OK. - 'I haven't spoken to the guv yet.' 677 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,910 - 'Do you know when she'll be back?' - She's with me now. - 'OK.' - Yeah. 678 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,560 - 'See you later.' - OK, cheers. 679 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,940 Call just came into the CID office. 680 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400 Looks like we've got another victim.