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[narrator]
<i>The Web transforms us.</i>

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<i>We become data...</i>

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<i>code...</i>

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<i>uploading our very selves...</i>

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<i>...to a place
we call the cloud.</i>

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<i>But this cloud is grounded
in hardware,</i>

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<i>a chaos of code.</i>

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<i>But with the right tools,</i>

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<i>you can find the signal
in the noise.</i>

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[water running]

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[David] <i>Nobody ever</i>
<i>suspected anything.</i>

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<i>I was a newspaper editor,</i>

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<i>I coached,
I was volunteering my time.</i>

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<i>I had really good friends,</i>

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<i>and I had
a really good family.</i>

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<i>That's probably
one of the reasons</i>

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<i>it came as such a shock
to people when I was arrested.</i>

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<i>I've had to spend my whole life</i>

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<i>lying and explaining
and being worried about,</i>

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<i>"Is someone going
to figure this out?"</i>

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I've tried to control myself
the best I could.

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<i>I've tried to lead the best
life that I possibly could.</i>

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<i>I know that my life
would've been different,</i>

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<i>not wonderful,
but at least better,</i>

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<i>if I'd never gone
on the Internet.</i>

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[rooster crows]

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[narrator] <i>A girl</i>
<i>on the other side of the world</i>

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<i>drawn into the darkest corner
of the Internet.</i>

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<i>Here, you can find child porn,
drugs, guns,</i>

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<i>fake passports,
counterfeit money.</i>

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<i>It's a place
where everyone is anonymous</i>

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<i>and invisible
to law enforcement.</i>

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<i>Welcome to the Dark Web.</i>

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<i>You might be tempted
to see it for yourself.</i>

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<i>And what's the harm?</i>

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<i>What's one more click?</i>

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♪♪

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But if you show your body,
3,000, 5,000.

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<i>In one show, in 30 minutes,</i>

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<i>it's easy.</i>

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[narrator] <i>Child cybersex.</i>

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<i>It's an epidemic
on the island of Cebu.</i>

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<i>Jonna Nunez,</i>

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<i>an outreach worker
for the NGO FORGE</i>

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<i>is fighting it door-to-door.</i>

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[Nunez] <i>Even the little boy,</i>
<i>even the little girl,</i>

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<i>they know already</i>

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what is cyber pornography.

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<i>It's a show-show</i>

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<i>to remove your clothes,</i>

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<i>to show your body
to the computer,</i>

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<i>to the Internet.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>Internet access</i>

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<i>is growing faster
in the Philippines</i>

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<i>than almost anywhere
in the world,</i>

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<i>and 80% of it is broadband.</i>

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<i>On the other end
of these cables are servers,</i>

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<i>some hidden in the Dark Web.</i>

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<i>You need a special browser</i>

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<i>to access this part
of the Internet,</i>

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<i>one that conceals
your computer's IP address.</i>

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<i>The first of these browsers
was Tor, the Onion Router,</i>

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<i>named for its layers
of encryption.</i>

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[Virgin] <i>Tor and the Dark Web</i>
<i>was originally a project</i>

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<i>started by
the Navy Research Lab</i>

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<i>here in the United States</i>

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<i>to protect the communications</i>

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<i>of U.S. government personnel.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>Greg Virgin spent eight years</i>

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<i>working for the NSA
and the Department of Defense.</i>

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<i>Later, with his own
cyber security company,</i>

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<i>he helped make Tor
a useful tool</i>

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<i>for political dissidents
abroad,</i>

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<i>giving them a safe way
to communicate</i>

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<i>without fear of reprisal.</i>

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So, Tor project has servers

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all over the world,

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and those servers
accept connections

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from users like our guy here,

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and then bounces
that signal around.

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All of these connections
are encrypted,

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so no one can piece together
who this person is

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and what this person is doing.

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[narrator] <i>The government</i>
<i>made Tor freely available,</i>

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<i>and it was soon put
to more sinister use.</i>

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<i>The Dark Web was born.</i>

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<i>Every day, an estimated
2.5 million people</i>

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<i>use Tor to visit the Dark Web.</i>

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<i>The amount of child porn here
is staggering...</i>

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<i>over 100 million sexually
explicit images of children,</i>

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<i>not to mention live streaming
on webcams.</i>

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[Virgin] <i>So, I've just</i>
<i>opened up the Tor browser,</i>

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and now it's possible for us

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<i>to anonymously browse
the Dark Net.</i>

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[narrator] <i>To avoid</i>
<i>breaking the law himself,</i>

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<i>Greg looks only at text,
not images.</i>

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This is a site
that's live right now.

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<i>You can see that there's
a really disturbing trend</i>

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<i>toward younger
and younger children</i>

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<i>that the Dark Web fosters,</i>

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<i>some ages as young as infants.</i>

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<i>There's even a term
called "pedo mom"</i>

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<i>for mothers who are
trading their children around</i>

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<i>in the community.</i>

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<i>There have been
a number of sites</i>

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<i>dedicated to child torture,</i>

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<i>conversations about</i>

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<i>exactly how to torture a child.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>Greg's goal is to understand</i>

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<i>how child porn is traded
on the Dark Web</i>

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<i>so that law enforcement
can stay a step ahead.</i>

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[Virgin] <i>Just to gain access</i>
<i>to these sites,</i>

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you have to trade
in original child abuse content.

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<i>They are getting you
to break the law</i>

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<i>to make sure
you're not law enforcement,</i>

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<i>and weeding out people</i>

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<i>who aren't
authentic pedophiles.</i>

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It's a community
of relentless users

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<i>that's becoming more and more
difficult for law enforcement,</i>

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<i>for analysts to break into.</i>

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Are you holding Winnie?

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- I am holding...
- Or G.I. Joe?

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No, I'm holding Winnie.

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So sweet.

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Yeah, who knew?

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Yeah, well.

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That's a sweet picture.

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Yeah.

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He has one little finger
sticking out there.

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[chuckles]

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[David]
<i>I think I started having</i>

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<i>feelings of sexual attraction
toward children,</i>

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<i>probably when I was about
15 or 16.</i>

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<i>I can't explain the attraction,</i>

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all I can tell you is
I wish to God I didn't have it.

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<i>I watched child pornography</i>

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<i>and searched for child
pornography every night.</i>

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<i>I looked at pictures
of children that were nude,</i>

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and yes,
I did look at pictures

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and films of children
in sexual acts

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with other children
and with adults.

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[narrator] <i>David says he</i>
<i>has never had physical contact</i>

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<i>or webcam sex with a child.</i>

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<i>He was arrested in 2012 for
possessing child pornography</i>

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<i>and for buying it
on the Internet.</i>

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The feelings are overpowering.

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It just... it runs through
your entire body.

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<i>The power of that addiction
trumps everything.</i>

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<i>The only two things
that would stop me</i>

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<i>from looking
at child pornography</i>

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was being arrested or dying.

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[Renaud]
<i>I'm interested in getting</i>

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<i>into these individual's minds,</i>

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this very secret place

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of being aroused
by a situation like that.

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[narrator]
<i>At a high-security</i>

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<i>psychiatric hospital
in Montreal</i>

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<i>is a darkroom
known as La Cave... The Vault.</i>

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<i>Here, Patrice Renaud
and his team of psychologists</i>

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<i>probe the innermost thoughts
of convicted sex offenders.</i>

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[device beeps]

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[Renaud] <i>We start</i>
<i>by installing the EEG cap.</i>

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<i>We then proceed
with the stereoscopic glasses</i>

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<i>in which we have
a built-in eye-tracking device.</i>

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<i>We then ask the subject</i>

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<i>to install himself
the penile gauge,</i>

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<i>which gives us an idea
of the tumescence,</i>

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<i>that is the level of erection
that the guy present</i>

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<i>at every moment
during the procedure.</i>

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<i>We then present</i>

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<i>a series of animations
and visual immersion</i>

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<i>that brings the individual
back to a state</i>

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<i>and the place that
brought them to offend.</i>

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[man] <i>Children are playing</i>
<i>in a nearby pool,</i>

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<i>and you notice a little girl
about 8 to 10 years old</i>

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<i>who is walking away
from the pool toward you.</i>

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<i>You are thinking about how much
you would like to touch her.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>While the subject is immersed</i>

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<i>in this virtual scene
of the crime,</i>

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<i>the team monitors
his physiological responses.</i>

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<i>If he tries to suppress
his erection by looking away,</i>

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<i>the eye-tracking catches him.</i>

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<i>The results are used
to determine</i>

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<i>how dangerous the offender is</i>

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<i>and whether he needs
to be incarcerated.</i>

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[Renaud] <i>With the guy</i>

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<i>that we're working with
at the moment,</i>

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we recreated a scene

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<i>in which he was molesting</i>

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<i>a 6-year-old girl
in his apartment</i>

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and killing her afterward,
sadly.

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<i>So, we want to understand</i>

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<i>what motive the individual
had at the moment.</i>

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Is the killing

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also a sexual part
of the crime?

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<i>So, it becomes a way</i>

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<i>to go even deeper
in the psyche of the individual</i>

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as it comes
to his sexual preferences.

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[narrator] <i>An estimated</i>
<i>1% of men are pedophiles,</i>

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<i>meaning that their dominant
sexual attraction</i>

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<i>is to prepubescent children,</i>

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<i>even if they never act on it.</i>

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<i>Many psychologists
see pedophilia</i>

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<i>as a deep-rooted preference</i>

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<i>that can't be changed,
only managed.</i>

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♪♪

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[narrator]
<i>An undercover investigator</i>

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<i>with the Children's
Legal Bureau,</i>

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<i>a Filipino NGO,
is meeting with his informant.</i>

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<i>The couple is allegedly</i>

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<i>abusing their own children
on webcam</i>

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<i>for foreign customers.</i>

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<i>These are photos
from the case file.</i>

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<i>The older daughter, age 12,</i>

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<i>and the younger one, age 10.</i>

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[woman] <i>Okay.</i>

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[girl sniffles]

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[children shouting playfully]

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[sighs]

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My name is Sweetie.

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I'm 10 years old.

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<i>I live in the Philippines.</i>

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Every day, I have to sit
in front of the webcam

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and talk to men.

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<i>They play with themselves.</i>

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<i>They want me
play with myself.</i>

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But what they don't know...

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I'm not real.

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I'm a computer model.

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[narrator]
<i>"Sweetie" was the bait</i>

231
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<i>in a global sting operation</i>

232
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<i>conducted by the Dutch NGO,
Terre des Hommes, in 2013.</i>

233
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[Sweetie]
<i>As soon as I go online,</i>

234
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<i>they come to me.</i>

235
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<i>10... 100 every hour.</i>

236
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<i>So many.</i>

237
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[narrator]
<i>Sweetie fooled more men</i>

238
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<i>than anyone could've imagined.</i>

239
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<i>Over a 10-week period,
more than 20,000 guys</i>

240
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<i>offered to pay her
for webcam sex.</i>

241
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<i>1,000 of them gave up
personal information</i>

242
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<i>from 71 countries.</i>

243
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<i>If you think that's a lot
of customers, consider this...</i>

244
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<i>Sweetie was only introduced
in 19 chatrooms,</i>

245
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<i>but the FBI estimates</i>

246
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<i>that there are over
40,000 chatrooms</i>

247
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<i>where, at any given moment,</i>

248
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<i>3/4 of a million people
are looking for child porn.</i>

249
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<i>The original Sweetie
was controlled</i>

250
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<i>by four researchers
in an Amsterdam warehouse.</i>

251
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<i>Sweetie 2.0 will be able
to generate her own dialogue</i>

252
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<i>and carry on thousands
of conversations</i>

253
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<i>at the same time,</i>

254
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<i>but only
if she can gain access</i>

255
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<i>to the heavily encrypted sites
where child porn is traded.</i>

256
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<i>Sweetie may have evolved,</i>

257
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<i>but the Dark Web
is evolving faster.</i>

258
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[Virgin] <i>At some point,</i>

259
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<i>doing the investigations
is going to become too hard.</i>

260
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<i>I don't feel that there's a way
around the encryption,</i>

261
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<i>and I do honestly feel</i>

262
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that it's only
a matter of time

263
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<i>before we have very private,
very inaccessible sites</i>

264
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<i>that perform very well</i>

265
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<i>and give this particular
class of consumer</i>

266
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everything that they need.

267
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<i>I would say it's moving
twice as fast</i>

268
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<i>as some of the trends
in cyber security.</i>

269
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<i>I think we've only got
a couple more years.</i>

270
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[narrator]
<i>As a sting operation,</i>

271
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<i>Sweetie was not
entirely successful.</i>

272
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<i>Europol warned that some judges
would consider it entrapment.</i>

273
00:21:03,584 --> 00:21:06,423
<i>Of those 20,000 men
who took the bait,</i>

274
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<i>only 6 have been convicted.</i>

275
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<i>But there's no doubt
that Sweetie helped</i>

276
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<i>raise awareness
about child cybersex.</i>

277
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[keyboard clacking]

278
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[David]
Shortly after my arrest...

279
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[Woman]
"To me, since my arrest..."

280
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Okay.

281
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And my phone number.

282
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[Woman]
<i>Oh, and your phone number.</i>

283
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[David] <i>I was released</i>
<i>on the conditions</i>

284
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<i>that I couldn't use
the Internet</i>

285
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<i>or have a computer in my home,</i>

286
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<i>and that I couldn't
go anywhere</i>

287
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<i>where children
would congregate,</i>

288
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<i>like parks</i>

289
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<i>or recreation centers,
swimming pools.</i>

290
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<i>When I was looking at children
on the Internet,</i>

291
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I hated myself for doing it.

292
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<i>I knew it was wrong.</i>

293
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<i>I knew the children
in child pornography</i>

294
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<i>had been abused,</i>

295
00:21:58,394 --> 00:22:01,393
<i>and they suffered
horrible consequences</i>

296
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<i>for the rest of their lives.</i>

297
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Sometimes I would just stare
at these kids and wonder like,

298
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you know, where are they now,

299
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and what horrible things they've
gone through in their life.

300
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<i>You think about it
sort of in the abstract,</i>

301
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<i>but it doesn't stop you
from doing what you're doing.</i>

302
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[narrator] <i>Psychologists</i>
<i>call this "dissociation"...</i>

303
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<i>a screen allows you
to detach</i>

304
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<i>your real self
from your online behavior</i>

305
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<i>and create
an alternative reality</i>

306
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<i>where social norms
no longer apply.</i>

307
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[David] <i>I'm not defending</i>
<i>looking at child pornography,</i>

308
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but if people
weren't producing it,

309
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we wouldn't be looking at it.

310
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[narrator] <i>Producers of child</i>
<i>pornography in the Philippines</i>

311
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<i>are being targeted.</i>

312
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<i>Every so often,
another raid makes the news.</i>

313
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<i>Children watch the police</i>

314
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<i>take their parents away
in handcuffs.</i>

315
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<i>The children are relocated
to a government shelter</i>

316
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<i>where they live until their
parents serve out prison terms.</i>

317
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<i>But fighting child cybersex
at the source</i>

318
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<i>is like fighting
the heroin trade</i>

319
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<i>by spraying poppy fields.</i>

320
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<i>If global demand
is strong enough,</i>

321
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<i>there will always be people
eager to meet it,</i>

322
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<i>especially in poor countries
like the Philippines.</i>

323
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♪♪

324
00:23:22,384 --> 00:23:24,463
<i>For over two years,</i>

325
00:23:24,464 --> 00:23:26,413
<i>the Children's Legal Bureau
has been trying</i>

326
00:23:26,414 --> 00:23:28,373
<i>to get the local police
to arrest the couple</i>

327
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<i>allegedly pimping
their own children.</i>

328
00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:45,543
<i>The investigators have built
an impressive case,</i>

329
00:23:45,544 --> 00:23:48,403
<i>including a floor plan
of the house...</i>

330
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<i>everything they need
for a search warrant.</i>

331
00:23:51,394 --> 00:23:53,503
<i>But every time they schedule
a case conference,</i>

332
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<i>the police postpone.</i>

333
00:23:55,584 --> 00:23:59,513
<i>You'd think the community
would be up in arms.</i>

334
00:23:59,514 --> 00:24:02,523
[Nunez] <i>The community,</i>
<i>they already know</i>

335
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:05,413
the operation of this family,

336
00:24:05,414 --> 00:24:08,423
but some of the neighbors
depend on this family

337
00:24:08,424 --> 00:24:12,473
<i>because they can easy
borrow money from them,</i>

338
00:24:12,474 --> 00:24:17,434
so it's better to keep silence
and do nothing.

339
00:24:19,534 --> 00:24:21,543
[Virgin] <i>What we're seeing</i>
<i>right now on the Dark Web</i>

340
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<i>is market creation.</i>

341
00:24:23,554 --> 00:24:28,413
<i>So, in much the same way
there were a bunch</i>

342
00:24:28,414 --> 00:24:32,483
<i>of failed social media site
attempts before Facebook,</i>

343
00:24:32,484 --> 00:24:35,593
what we see in the Dark Web
is sites, forums

344
00:24:35,594 --> 00:24:37,483
<i>that are coming and going</i>

345
00:24:37,484 --> 00:24:39,603
<i>in a community
of relentless users</i>

346
00:24:39,604 --> 00:24:41,473
<i>who are really working
to build</i>

347
00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:44,553
what hopefully
I'm wrong about,

348
00:24:44,554 --> 00:24:49,403
<i>is this more perfect way
of sharing child pornography.</i>

349
00:24:49,404 --> 00:24:53,553
If 1% of the general population
really has these cravings,

350
00:24:53,554 --> 00:24:57,443
<i>think about the amount
of currently unmet demands</i>

351
00:24:57,444 --> 00:24:59,563
<i>these networks could be</i>
meeting.

352
00:24:59,564 --> 00:25:03,444
It's a very dangerous time.

353
00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:08,443
[Renaud] <i>It's a bit like</i>
<i>an arms race, in a sense,</i>

354
00:25:08,444 --> 00:25:10,373
<i>because with the advent</i>

355
00:25:10,374 --> 00:25:13,503
<i>of Internet
and virtual reality,</i>

356
00:25:13,504 --> 00:25:15,543
<i>pornography evolves,</i>

357
00:25:15,544 --> 00:25:18,483
<i>and child pornography
will evolve,</i>

358
00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:21,603
and we try to be always
a step ahead.

359
00:25:21,604 --> 00:25:24,423
[narrator]
<i>Professor Renaud and his team</i>

360
00:25:24,424 --> 00:25:26,583
<i>are exploring the use
of virtual reality</i>

361
00:25:26,584 --> 00:25:29,543
<i>to help pedophiles
control their impulses.</i>

362
00:25:29,544 --> 00:25:32,413
Even if something bad
happens here,

363
00:25:32,414 --> 00:25:33,563
let's say he has
a full-on erection,

364
00:25:33,564 --> 00:25:36,523
<i>there is absolutely
no children... it's virtual.</i>

365
00:25:36,524 --> 00:25:40,393
[narrator] <i>Which raises</i>
<i>an intriguing question.</i>

366
00:25:40,394 --> 00:25:42,533
<i>What if child avatars
like Sweetie</i>

367
00:25:42,534 --> 00:25:46,503
<i>could be used as virtual
partners for pedophiles...</i>

368
00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:49,553
<i>a safe way to satisfy
their urges?</i>

369
00:25:49,554 --> 00:25:53,413
<i>Maybe fewer real children
would be harmed.</i>

370
00:25:53,414 --> 00:25:55,483
<i>It's a risky proposition.</i>

371
00:25:55,484 --> 00:26:00,393
<i>For some men, it might have
the opposite effect.</i>

372
00:26:00,394 --> 00:26:04,413
[Renaud] <i>Using virtual reality</i>
<i>to experience sexuality</i>

373
00:26:04,414 --> 00:26:07,463
<i>is a very delicate matter</i>

374
00:26:07,464 --> 00:26:12,433
<i>since some fantasies
may be lived very intensely</i>

375
00:26:12,434 --> 00:26:16,403
<i>and can leave traits
in the brain.</i>

376
00:26:16,404 --> 00:26:18,603
<i>So where is the boundary?
Where's the limits?</i>

377
00:26:18,604 --> 00:26:23,433
<i>What can we really allow
an individual to do?</i>

378
00:26:23,434 --> 00:26:27,513
[narrator] <i>There's no cure,</i>
<i>there's no crackdown</i>

379
00:26:27,514 --> 00:26:29,453
<i>that will delete
child pornography</i>

380
00:26:29,454 --> 00:26:31,413
<i>from our world.</i>

381
00:26:31,414 --> 00:26:35,523
<i>We're left to our own devices
and our ability</i>

382
00:26:35,524 --> 00:26:39,594
<i>to learn that every click
has consequences.</i>

383
00:26:40,564 --> 00:26:44,583
[David] <i>I don't think anybody</i>
<i>can explain their attractions.</i>

384
00:26:44,584 --> 00:26:46,514
I think
it's the luck of the draw.

385
00:26:48,554 --> 00:26:52,513
We can't control what we are.

386
00:26:52,514 --> 00:26:55,383
What we can control
is what we do.

387
00:26:55,384 --> 00:26:56,533
[narrator] <i>Meanwhile,</i>

388
00:26:56,534 --> 00:26:59,523
<i>child cybersex
continues to spread,</i>

389
00:26:59,524 --> 00:27:02,523
<i>especially
in the developing world.</i>

390
00:27:02,524 --> 00:27:04,513
[Virgin]
<i>If we can address the poverty,</i>

391
00:27:04,514 --> 00:27:07,533
if we can address
the vulnerability,

392
00:27:07,534 --> 00:27:09,563
<i>that is really
what we should be doing</i>

393
00:27:09,564 --> 00:27:12,494
<i>regardless
of what's happening online.</i>

394
00:27:24,474 --> 00:27:26,523
[Nunez]
<i>We are fighting this battle</i>

395
00:27:26,524 --> 00:27:29,554
<i>for the future of our children.</i>

396
00:27:36,594 --> 00:27:38,554
♪♪

