1 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,297 I used to love the carnival. 2 00:00:53,238 --> 00:00:58,834 Daddy worked all the fairs, selling pretzels, candy apples. 3 00:00:58,909 --> 00:01:01,174 Always lookin' for something better. 4 00:01:02,615 --> 00:01:05,380 Sometimes Mama would follow, 5 00:01:05,452 --> 00:01:09,650 and sometimes he'd even take us. 6 00:01:09,723 --> 00:01:14,558 It was always a new adventure, with a whole new family every time. 7 00:01:14,628 --> 00:01:18,792 I figured Jennie and me were the luckiest girls in the world with a life like that. 8 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:23,758 My favorite was the merry-go-round. 9 00:01:23,838 --> 00:01:26,773 Maybe I was a little old for it, 10 00:01:26,841 --> 00:01:29,742 but all those other rides, they scared me. 11 00:01:34,783 --> 00:01:39,347 But the merry-go-round just goes round and round and up and down. 12 00:01:42,124 --> 00:01:45,424 You don't get anywhere, but you always feel safe. 13 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:08,351 That's me on the left. 14 00:02:09,154 --> 00:02:11,349 Sylvia. 15 00:02:11,424 --> 00:02:13,755 And this is my story. 16 00:02:52,302 --> 00:02:54,202 Would you please state your name. 17 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:56,466 Lester Likens. 18 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:58,803 Are you married to Betty Likens? 19 00:02:58,875 --> 00:03:00,241 Yes. 20 00:03:00,310 --> 00:03:03,438 Did you and your wife ever separate? 21 00:03:03,513 --> 00:03:05,072 Yes. 22 00:03:05,149 --> 00:03:08,141 What period of time did that occur? 23 00:03:08,218 --> 00:03:11,519 The last week in June, 1965. 24 00:03:11,590 --> 00:03:15,821 She was at Euclid Street and I was in Lebanon, Indiana. 25 00:03:15,894 --> 00:03:17,760 Where were the children? 26 00:03:17,829 --> 00:03:21,596 Jennie Faye and Sylvia Marie was with her. 27 00:03:26,972 --> 00:03:29,203 So, you think we'll make some friends? 28 00:03:29,276 --> 00:03:30,801 Sure we will. 29 00:03:30,878 --> 00:03:33,642 Maybe there'll be some cute boys this time. 30 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:35,272 Church boys can be cute. 31 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:38,409 Come on, girls. Don't wanna be late for our first service. 32 00:03:40,054 --> 00:03:41,783 Hey! 33 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:42,914 Daddy. 34 00:03:42,990 --> 00:03:44,013 Hey, Jennie. 35 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:45,525 What're you doin' here? 36 00:03:45,594 --> 00:03:47,619 I missed you girls. 37 00:03:47,696 --> 00:03:50,494 Betty, can I talk to you for a minute? 38 00:03:52,234 --> 00:03:54,098 You know, I've been talking to Horst, 39 00:03:54,168 --> 00:03:56,637 and he says that we could maybe swing our own booth 40 00:03:56,706 --> 00:04:00,005 at the State Fair this year. Maybe make enough money to go on tour. 41 00:04:00,076 --> 00:04:03,068 I told you, Lester, I can't do it anymore. Not with the girls. 42 00:04:03,147 --> 00:04:05,239 Maybe my mother'll take 'em. 43 00:04:05,315 --> 00:04:07,308 I can't move them up there again. 44 00:04:07,384 --> 00:04:10,546 They haven't even had a chance to make friends down here yet. 45 00:04:10,620 --> 00:04:14,387 Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight as much without the kids. 46 00:04:14,458 --> 00:04:16,256 Mama? 47 00:04:16,328 --> 00:04:19,491 You two go on ahead and catch the church bus home. 48 00:04:19,564 --> 00:04:22,555 I gotta settle things with your father. 49 00:04:30,042 --> 00:04:33,102 "See what love the Father has given us 50 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:36,240 that we are called the children of God." 51 00:04:38,352 --> 00:04:40,718 And so we are. 52 00:04:40,787 --> 00:04:43,688 But how does the child come unto his father? 53 00:04:43,756 --> 00:04:47,160 How does the father come unto the child? 54 00:04:47,229 --> 00:04:50,823 Christ said, "I am the Way, the Truth, the Life, 55 00:04:50,898 --> 00:04:55,198 and none come unto the Father but by Me." 56 00:04:55,269 --> 00:04:57,431 Be good. 57 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:00,600 Our fathers, our mothers. 58 00:05:00,675 --> 00:05:04,168 It is only through Christ that we find the Father. 59 00:05:04,247 --> 00:05:07,239 And it is only through Christ that we find each other. 60 00:05:15,859 --> 00:05:18,021 That's a beautiful dress, Hope. 61 00:05:18,095 --> 00:05:19,755 Thank you, Gertrude. 62 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:23,766 I'm... I'm feeling much better on my new medicine, 63 00:05:23,835 --> 00:05:26,667 and if you know of anybody who needs ironing to be done, 64 00:05:26,738 --> 00:05:28,228 I'd appreciate the work. 65 00:05:28,306 --> 00:05:29,773 I'll do that. 66 00:05:29,841 --> 00:05:31,934 Thank you. 67 00:05:39,184 --> 00:05:40,585 What happened to your leg? 68 00:05:40,654 --> 00:05:42,587 That's not polite, Shirley. 69 00:05:42,655 --> 00:05:44,850 It's all right. She's used to it. 70 00:05:44,924 --> 00:05:46,187 So what is it? 71 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:47,284 From polio. 72 00:05:47,361 --> 00:05:50,817 Polio? Does it hurt? 73 00:05:52,299 --> 00:05:54,062 Our Mama's sick, too. 74 00:05:55,669 --> 00:05:56,830 All right, girls. 75 00:05:58,406 --> 00:05:59,703 We gotta go. 76 00:05:59,774 --> 00:06:01,173 Can't they come with us? 77 00:06:01,242 --> 00:06:03,232 Want to come? 78 00:06:03,311 --> 00:06:07,112 We got some friends coming over, and you could meet our older sisters. 79 00:06:07,182 --> 00:06:08,445 Sure. 80 00:06:25,069 --> 00:06:27,435 Guess who got stuck with an extra shift at work? 81 00:06:27,505 --> 00:06:29,301 You get paid? 82 00:06:29,373 --> 00:06:32,138 Got a little somethin' extra for dinner. 83 00:06:32,210 --> 00:06:33,609 Here, take the baby. 84 00:06:33,678 --> 00:06:35,704 Where'd they come from? 85 00:06:35,781 --> 00:06:37,044 What's this? 86 00:06:37,117 --> 00:06:39,846 We invited 'em to stay and play. 87 00:06:39,918 --> 00:06:41,784 We'll be quiet. 88 00:06:41,855 --> 00:06:43,844 All right, make sure of it. 89 00:06:47,894 --> 00:06:50,384 I like this song. 90 00:06:50,463 --> 00:06:52,021 What's your Dad do? 91 00:06:52,099 --> 00:06:53,794 He's a cop. And they're divorced. 92 00:06:53,868 --> 00:06:55,130 You miss him any? 93 00:06:55,202 --> 00:06:57,227 Nah. I just miss his money. 94 00:06:57,304 --> 00:07:01,034 It's true. Maybe if his support was more regular, 95 00:07:01,107 --> 00:07:04,408 Mama wouldn't be so sick and I wouldn't have to work so hard. 96 00:07:04,478 --> 00:07:06,174 Little Kenny's got a different daddy. 97 00:07:06,248 --> 00:07:07,713 Who's little Kenny? 98 00:07:07,780 --> 00:07:10,444 The baby. But we ain't supposed to talk about that. 99 00:07:11,753 --> 00:07:14,847 There. 100 00:07:14,923 --> 00:07:16,413 You should do this for a living. 101 00:07:16,491 --> 00:07:17,890 Yeah, if she was old enough. 102 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:19,187 You want me to do yours? 103 00:07:19,261 --> 00:07:20,991 No, thanks. 104 00:07:21,063 --> 00:07:22,497 Yeah, she's the pretty one. 105 00:07:22,566 --> 00:07:24,726 Yeah, she's got nice hair. 106 00:07:24,801 --> 00:07:26,529 I'm pretty, too. 107 00:07:26,602 --> 00:07:29,332 The hell you are! 108 00:07:29,405 --> 00:07:32,341 I tell you what. Let's go get a Coke. 109 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:34,690 My boyfriend works over at the liquor store. 110 00:07:34,714 --> 00:07:36,334 He could sneak us out a couple. 111 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:37,405 Sure. 112 00:07:37,482 --> 00:07:39,712 You girls behave! 113 00:07:39,784 --> 00:07:42,014 We're going to the grocery. 114 00:07:42,086 --> 00:07:44,316 Tell Andy he owes me for little Kenny. 115 00:07:44,389 --> 00:07:46,290 Don't be wasting time on that bag boy. 116 00:07:46,358 --> 00:07:48,053 He ain't a bag boy, Mama! 117 00:07:48,127 --> 00:07:50,185 He's still a waste of space. 118 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:52,196 She don't like my boyfriend. 119 00:07:52,264 --> 00:07:53,389 Yeah, I can see that. 120 00:07:53,466 --> 00:07:55,625 Hey, Johnny. Quit it! 121 00:07:55,701 --> 00:07:58,467 Sorry, Mrs. Doyle. 122 00:07:59,172 --> 00:08:00,297 Hey. 123 00:08:00,372 --> 00:08:01,600 You weren't at church today. 124 00:08:01,674 --> 00:08:03,074 Coy and I are heading there now. 125 00:08:03,143 --> 00:08:05,076 Yeah, you better be. 126 00:08:05,145 --> 00:08:06,703 Let's get out of here. 127 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:09,840 My sister Stephanie. She's a big help around the house 128 00:08:09,916 --> 00:08:12,646 when she ain't wastin' time with her boyfriend Coy. 129 00:08:14,655 --> 00:08:16,317 God. 130 00:08:16,391 --> 00:08:17,482 Hey, Paula. 131 00:08:17,559 --> 00:08:19,355 Mama was askin' after her money. 132 00:08:19,427 --> 00:08:22,158 I'll bet she was. Who's your friend? 133 00:08:22,231 --> 00:08:25,360 Sylvia. But she don't talk to trash. 134 00:08:25,434 --> 00:08:27,130 'Scuse me. 135 00:08:27,203 --> 00:08:31,003 That's my Mama's ex-boyfriend. He's only six years older than me. 136 00:08:33,108 --> 00:08:34,837 Just like her mama. 137 00:08:38,114 --> 00:08:41,174 That's him. That's my Bradley. 138 00:08:42,087 --> 00:08:44,111 He's real cute. 139 00:08:46,523 --> 00:08:48,958 We gotta be real careful, though. 140 00:08:49,027 --> 00:08:51,154 Why? 141 00:08:51,229 --> 00:08:53,255 Because he's married. 142 00:08:54,699 --> 00:08:57,167 I'm not even shittin' you! No! 143 00:08:57,235 --> 00:08:59,294 Paula! 144 00:08:59,371 --> 00:09:02,305 Don't tell me you never had a boyfriend. 145 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:06,873 Well. There was this guy in California, 146 00:09:06,945 --> 00:09:10,280 but... I guess it was nothin'. 147 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:12,477 At least you did more than kiss, right? 148 00:09:14,722 --> 00:09:18,283 Well, aren't you just so damn pure! 149 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:19,917 Come on. 150 00:09:23,331 --> 00:09:24,559 Let's go. 151 00:09:26,502 --> 00:09:29,493 This is Pleiku, 250 miles north of Saigon. 152 00:09:29,971 --> 00:09:33,430 The air base that was ripped by the incoming communist guerrillas. 153 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:53,189 Mariel I need you to feed little Kenny. 154 00:09:53,265 --> 00:09:56,700 If I don't get this ironing to Mrs. Duke by four, I'm not gonna get a tip. 155 00:09:56,767 --> 00:09:57,893 We're out of milk. 156 00:09:57,968 --> 00:09:59,367 Go get some. 157 00:09:59,437 --> 00:10:01,701 They won't give us no more credit at the store. 158 00:10:01,772 --> 00:10:03,262 They will if you take the baby. 159 00:10:03,342 --> 00:10:06,505 Hello! Hi. I'm sorry. 160 00:10:06,578 --> 00:10:09,103 Somebody said they saw my girls here. 161 00:10:10,683 --> 00:10:12,480 You got no family here in Indy? 162 00:10:12,552 --> 00:10:15,112 Well, not that I could leave 'em with. 163 00:10:16,655 --> 00:10:17,782 'Cause of them or you? 164 00:10:17,857 --> 00:10:20,225 Well, little of both. 165 00:10:21,828 --> 00:10:24,161 Hi, Ms Baniszewski. Shirley and Marie here? 166 00:10:24,231 --> 00:10:26,723 Upstairs. Shut the door. 167 00:10:30,137 --> 00:10:33,197 Looks like you got kids running in and out of here all day long. 168 00:10:38,613 --> 00:10:41,411 Why don't you leave Sylvia and Jennie here with me? 169 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,612 I couldn't do that. 170 00:10:46,688 --> 00:10:50,125 I got six kids. Two more won't make a difference. 171 00:10:50,192 --> 00:10:51,853 I guess that's true. 172 00:10:58,770 --> 00:11:01,637 $20 a week, and you won't have to worry. 173 00:11:05,810 --> 00:11:07,675 You'd be helping me out, too. 174 00:11:07,745 --> 00:11:11,182 Well, I could talk to my wife about it. 175 00:11:13,084 --> 00:11:16,521 It's... something to consider. 176 00:11:22,096 --> 00:11:25,461 So, you'd never met Gertrude Baniszewski before that day? 177 00:11:25,530 --> 00:11:27,296 No, sir. 178 00:11:27,368 --> 00:11:30,665 But you were willing to leave your children with a complete stranger? 179 00:11:32,807 --> 00:11:36,140 Well, like I said... we got to talking, 180 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:40,270 and she openly admitted that she would take care of the children 181 00:11:40,347 --> 00:11:43,317 and treat them like they were her own. 182 00:11:44,785 --> 00:11:47,084 OK, here's 20 now, 183 00:11:47,154 --> 00:11:50,147 and... you'll have the next payment a week Thursday. 184 00:11:50,225 --> 00:11:51,658 I'll need that money. 185 00:11:51,726 --> 00:11:53,125 Well, you'll have it. 186 00:11:53,195 --> 00:11:55,188 Johnny, bring the box upstairs. 187 00:11:55,265 --> 00:11:56,890 I appreciate that, sweetheart. 188 00:11:56,965 --> 00:11:59,127 I don't want you to go. 189 00:11:59,203 --> 00:12:02,104 The circuit'll be dying down at the end of September. 190 00:12:02,172 --> 00:12:03,660 That's over two months. 191 00:12:03,738 --> 00:12:06,674 And I promise I will be back to get you girls then. 192 00:12:06,742 --> 00:12:08,904 OK, kids. Bye, Jennie. 193 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,679 Cookie. You be good. 194 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:12,909 OK. 195 00:12:12,984 --> 00:12:14,383 All right. 196 00:12:17,223 --> 00:12:19,190 Bye, girls. 197 00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:23,058 You girls make sure you get everything you need. 198 00:12:23,127 --> 00:12:25,595 Thank you. 199 00:12:25,662 --> 00:12:28,064 Well, come on! We'll help you unpack. 200 00:12:55,197 --> 00:12:57,721 It's nothing to be nervous about. 201 00:12:57,798 --> 00:13:00,359 Everyone's real nice here, I promise. 202 00:13:00,435 --> 00:13:03,632 Hey, Paula, did ya get your cherry popped this summer? 203 00:13:03,705 --> 00:13:06,470 Well, you sure didn't, Teddy, not with a face like that. 204 00:13:06,543 --> 00:13:08,442 Come on, you know we're just playin'. 205 00:13:08,510 --> 00:13:11,037 Why don't you play with yourself? 206 00:13:11,113 --> 00:13:14,572 Coy's OK, but Teddy is a goddamn delinquent. 207 00:13:14,651 --> 00:13:17,713 Those guys, they're always messing with somebody. 208 00:13:17,788 --> 00:13:19,652 I'm sure she'll be OK. 209 00:13:19,722 --> 00:13:21,281 You living with Paula and them? 210 00:13:21,358 --> 00:13:23,758 Yeah. For a bit, I guess. 211 00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:27,229 Well... saw you the other day. 212 00:13:27,299 --> 00:13:29,699 I live right around the corner. I'm Ricky Hobbs. 213 00:13:29,768 --> 00:13:31,065 Sylvia. 214 00:13:31,136 --> 00:13:33,105 Hey, there's a football game this weekend 215 00:13:33,171 --> 00:13:35,036 if you'd be interested in that at all. 216 00:13:35,106 --> 00:13:37,075 I don't really much like football. 217 00:13:37,143 --> 00:13:38,441 Sylvia, come on! 218 00:13:39,645 --> 00:13:40,943 Goodbye! 219 00:13:45,053 --> 00:13:46,519 Me. 220 00:13:46,586 --> 00:13:48,554 I hope you brought my money. 221 00:13:48,621 --> 00:13:50,716 Nice to see you, too. 222 00:13:52,226 --> 00:13:54,125 Came by to see my babies. 223 00:14:01,704 --> 00:14:03,331 Hi. 224 00:14:03,404 --> 00:14:04,598 Hey. 225 00:14:06,576 --> 00:14:08,132 Leave him. 226 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:12,044 I got my call-up papers. I'll be goin' to boot camp soon. 227 00:14:15,150 --> 00:14:16,378 Put him back down. 228 00:14:19,723 --> 00:14:21,748 Took me all day to quiet him. 229 00:14:23,828 --> 00:14:25,055 Not in front of the baby. 230 00:14:25,128 --> 00:14:26,720 Why? He don't care. 231 00:14:26,796 --> 00:14:28,424 I do! 232 00:14:32,136 --> 00:14:36,664 Listen, I'm gonna be gettin' a paycheck, so you'll be getting payments regular. 233 00:14:39,478 --> 00:14:41,639 Who's gonna take care of you? 234 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:49,053 Well, actually, I was wondering if I could borrow a few dollars 235 00:14:49,121 --> 00:14:52,421 so I could go see my brother in Lebanon before I leave. 236 00:14:55,663 --> 00:14:58,756 If I had the money, I'd give it to you. 237 00:14:58,831 --> 00:15:00,010 I saw your new boarders. 238 00:15:00,034 --> 00:15:02,292 Don't tell me you're doing that for charity. 239 00:15:02,336 --> 00:15:04,601 I had to take them in because of you. 240 00:15:04,673 --> 00:15:06,608 I ain't paying for another man's kids. 241 00:15:06,676 --> 00:15:08,575 You ain't paying for your... 242 00:15:13,081 --> 00:15:15,412 I'm sorry, Gertie. 243 00:15:15,482 --> 00:15:17,213 I'm sorry. 244 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,485 Sorry. 245 00:15:25,595 --> 00:15:28,121 So how was the first day of school? 246 00:15:28,199 --> 00:15:30,690 Well, I actually made a couple friends. 247 00:15:30,767 --> 00:15:34,293 See? We ain't such bad people here on the Southside. 248 00:15:34,371 --> 00:15:37,363 Can you pick up the kids and bring them home? 249 00:15:37,441 --> 00:15:39,239 There's something I gotta take care of. 250 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:40,607 Is everything all right? 251 00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:43,306 Tell Mama I picked up an extra shift at work. 252 00:15:43,381 --> 00:15:45,942 Sure. 253 00:15:46,018 --> 00:15:50,421 You know, Paula's lookin' more and more like you every day. 254 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:52,252 Lucky her. 255 00:15:54,059 --> 00:15:56,654 You should watch her, though. 256 00:15:56,729 --> 00:15:58,926 She's been hanging out with Bradley again. 257 00:16:00,532 --> 00:16:02,798 I hate to think what'll happen. 258 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:04,860 Wife's got a bad temper. 259 00:16:13,615 --> 00:16:15,741 You think I could get that money? 260 00:16:21,055 --> 00:16:23,252 There's a 20 in the top drawer. 261 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,076 Where do you live, Mrs. Doyle? 262 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:48,051 3848 East New York. 263 00:16:48,118 --> 00:16:50,645 You can almost reach out of your dining room window 264 00:16:50,722 --> 00:16:52,713 into the Baniszewski kitchen, can't you? 265 00:16:52,791 --> 00:16:54,554 It's not that close. 266 00:16:54,626 --> 00:16:58,357 Because of the experience that you saw Mrs. Baniszewski having there, 267 00:16:58,429 --> 00:17:01,662 did you develop any bias or a prejudice against her? 268 00:17:02,802 --> 00:17:05,100 No, I felt sorry for the lady. 269 00:17:05,171 --> 00:17:08,038 I felt she was a hard-working woman, with all them kids. 270 00:17:08,108 --> 00:17:11,373 Do you entertain any ill feelings or animosity toward her? 271 00:17:12,378 --> 00:17:14,540 No, I can't judge her. 272 00:17:14,614 --> 00:17:16,912 I beg your pardon? 273 00:17:16,983 --> 00:17:19,349 I can't judge her. 274 00:17:21,721 --> 00:17:23,553 Would you like to say grace, Sylvia? 275 00:17:23,624 --> 00:17:24,818 Sure. 276 00:17:26,661 --> 00:17:30,564 Bless this food to our use and us to Thy service. Amen. 277 00:17:30,632 --> 00:17:32,327 Amen. 278 00:17:36,705 --> 00:17:39,174 Somebody get out there and feed that dog. 279 00:17:39,241 --> 00:17:41,106 Sure, Mama. 280 00:17:46,015 --> 00:17:47,506 Sorry I'm late. 281 00:17:47,584 --> 00:17:49,211 Where've you been? 282 00:17:49,285 --> 00:17:52,221 I picked up a shift from Ellen. 283 00:17:54,391 --> 00:17:57,588 I told you I didn't want you to see that boy any more, and I mean it. 284 00:17:57,661 --> 00:17:59,652 I didn't see him. 285 00:17:59,731 --> 00:18:01,595 Don't lie to me, Paula. 286 00:18:01,665 --> 00:18:03,965 What, was he here? Did Andy say something? 287 00:18:04,036 --> 00:18:06,196 That is none of your business. 288 00:18:06,272 --> 00:18:09,639 You just don't want me making the same mistakes that you made. 289 00:18:18,284 --> 00:18:20,719 I said, feed that dog! 290 00:18:25,325 --> 00:18:27,226 Johnny, feed the dog! 291 00:18:39,875 --> 00:18:41,570 What's wrong, Paula? 292 00:18:44,246 --> 00:18:46,374 I've got problems, Sylvia. 293 00:18:47,716 --> 00:18:49,514 Big problems. 294 00:18:53,423 --> 00:18:55,084 With Bradley? 295 00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:02,763 I went to the doctor's office. 296 00:19:05,703 --> 00:19:07,671 I'm pregnant. 297 00:19:14,212 --> 00:19:16,646 You know he's already married. 298 00:19:16,715 --> 00:19:18,546 He ain't gonna want a baby. 299 00:19:18,616 --> 00:19:21,586 And I... I don't know what I'm gonna do. 300 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:27,218 You gotta tell him. 301 00:19:27,293 --> 00:19:29,887 I can't. 302 00:19:29,964 --> 00:19:31,956 Well, you kinda gotta. 303 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,567 You need to promise me that you won't say anything to anybody. 304 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,305 Not a word until I figure out what I'm gonna do, OK? 305 00:19:46,816 --> 00:19:49,147 Yeah, I promise. 306 00:19:52,855 --> 00:19:54,685 It's gonna be OK. 307 00:20:57,858 --> 00:21:00,090 Mama? 308 00:21:06,335 --> 00:21:07,632 Mama! 309 00:21:18,681 --> 00:21:21,015 I want you all upstairs. 310 00:21:22,454 --> 00:21:23,944 Come on. 311 00:21:25,254 --> 00:21:26,848 Except for you two. 312 00:21:28,927 --> 00:21:31,123 I want you down in the basement. 313 00:21:47,246 --> 00:21:50,010 Your daddy's check didn't arrive today. 314 00:21:50,082 --> 00:21:52,678 It's probably just late. 315 00:21:52,752 --> 00:21:56,153 I mean, my mama, she wouldn't let him forget. 316 00:21:56,223 --> 00:21:57,816 You know what I think? 317 00:21:57,892 --> 00:22:02,727 I just took care of you two for two weeks for nothin'! 318 00:22:04,466 --> 00:22:08,993 I think your Mama and Daddy left you here for good. 319 00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:11,005 They wouldn't do that. 320 00:22:11,073 --> 00:22:13,132 Keep your mouth shut. 321 00:22:19,082 --> 00:22:20,845 Lean over those. 322 00:22:21,885 --> 00:22:23,854 Go on. Lean over. 323 00:22:41,072 --> 00:22:42,562 Come on. Come on. 324 00:22:42,642 --> 00:22:43,870 Don't, please. 325 00:22:43,943 --> 00:22:44,943 Get up! 326 00:22:45,011 --> 00:22:46,342 Gertie! 327 00:22:46,412 --> 00:22:47,674 No! Let go of me! 328 00:22:47,747 --> 00:22:50,444 Look, I can take hers. 329 00:23:11,639 --> 00:23:13,038 OK. 330 00:23:14,542 --> 00:23:15,976 Come on. 331 00:23:24,453 --> 00:23:26,012 OK. 332 00:23:32,162 --> 00:23:34,131 I need that money. 333 00:23:52,851 --> 00:23:54,718 Come on, Jennie. 334 00:23:57,657 --> 00:24:01,058 It ain't like we never had a spanking before. 335 00:24:03,929 --> 00:24:06,923 That check's gonna come tomorrow. I swear. 336 00:24:25,954 --> 00:24:27,149 Johnny! 337 00:24:27,223 --> 00:24:28,884 What? Give me that thing back. 338 00:24:28,958 --> 00:24:31,222 Stop it! Stop hurting me. 339 00:24:31,294 --> 00:24:34,457 I'm 15. I should be able to go. 340 00:24:34,531 --> 00:24:37,158 Someone's gotta look after the little ones. 341 00:24:37,233 --> 00:24:39,896 I wonder if Bradley is gonna be there. 342 00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:42,371 Stop it! 343 00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,532 Freedom was in jeopardy 344 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:48,476 and a struggling people had been brought 345 00:24:48,545 --> 00:24:52,107 almost to their knees by aggression, 346 00:24:53,283 --> 00:24:55,810 when William Westmoreland 347 00:24:55,887 --> 00:24:58,912 was called to urgent duty. 348 00:25:00,259 --> 00:25:02,750 His mission was to deny aggression 349 00:25:02,827 --> 00:25:05,195 its conquest. 350 00:25:05,265 --> 00:25:08,324 It was a mission simple enough to state, 351 00:25:09,702 --> 00:25:11,934 but to execute that mission 352 00:25:12,006 --> 00:25:16,704 he had to fight the most complex war in all American history. 353 00:25:16,776 --> 00:25:19,042 So what are you gonna see tonight, Stephanie? 354 00:25:19,114 --> 00:25:21,103 We ain't gonna be seein' a movie, Marie. 355 00:25:21,182 --> 00:25:24,777 The only thing she'll be seeing is Coy's hands while she's pushing him away. 356 00:25:24,851 --> 00:25:26,376 I might not be pushing too hard. 357 00:25:26,454 --> 00:25:28,356 Yeah, yeah, Princess Priss. 358 00:25:28,424 --> 00:25:30,413 You'd scream if he breathed on your blouse. 359 00:25:30,492 --> 00:25:32,516 That's not true, Paula, and you know it. 360 00:25:32,594 --> 00:25:34,618 Don't give Sylvia the wrong idea now. 361 00:25:35,864 --> 00:25:37,764 Look, I shot his eye out. 362 00:25:37,834 --> 00:25:39,301 Why'd you do that? 363 00:25:39,369 --> 00:25:40,961 Johnny, get out of here! 364 00:25:42,038 --> 00:25:43,299 You're dead. 365 00:25:43,673 --> 00:25:45,538 This is crazy. 366 00:25:46,776 --> 00:25:49,441 This is... This is crap! 367 00:25:49,513 --> 00:25:53,074 There's nothing ever to do in this shithole town! 368 00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:54,709 It ain't that bad, Teddy! 369 00:25:54,785 --> 00:25:56,185 Yeah, it is. 370 00:25:58,789 --> 00:26:00,189 Hi. 371 00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:07,931 I don't know about you, 372 00:26:07,999 --> 00:26:09,934 but I'm staying out all night tonight. 373 00:26:10,002 --> 00:26:13,164 Your parents ain't gonna like that. 374 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:16,367 They don't give a shit. Ticklish? 375 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:19,309 You like it here? 376 00:26:19,379 --> 00:26:21,006 Yeah, it's real nice. 377 00:26:21,082 --> 00:26:23,049 Look who's here. 378 00:26:23,117 --> 00:26:24,812 I'll be right back. 379 00:26:24,885 --> 00:26:26,318 Maybe you shouldn't. 380 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,285 Hey. 381 00:26:34,362 --> 00:26:37,798 Ricky, you shouldn't sneak up on girls like that. 382 00:26:37,865 --> 00:26:39,458 Sorry. 383 00:26:39,535 --> 00:26:42,902 Hey, nursery's around the corner. 384 00:26:42,971 --> 00:26:45,439 You might want to get back before they miss you. 385 00:26:45,507 --> 00:26:47,441 I brought some favors. 386 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:48,840 Gimme some of that! 387 00:26:53,148 --> 00:26:54,911 What are you doing here? 388 00:26:54,984 --> 00:26:56,475 I just came to see you. 389 00:26:56,555 --> 00:26:58,453 I thought we talked about it. 390 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,990 I'll just be right back. 391 00:27:04,862 --> 00:27:07,764 I already told you my wife's back from her cousin's house. 392 00:27:07,833 --> 00:27:09,595 That's it, OK? 393 00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:12,967 Now, be a good girl and go play with your friends. 394 00:27:15,608 --> 00:27:19,908 You know, my mama's been calling you trash, and I'm starting to believe her. 395 00:27:19,979 --> 00:27:24,643 You should listen to your mama, Paula. She knows best. 396 00:27:24,717 --> 00:27:26,776 I know you don't mean that. 397 00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:28,754 Get off me! Get off me! 398 00:27:28,822 --> 00:27:31,790 No, I don't... 399 00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:34,191 Is this what you want? Something like this? 400 00:27:34,261 --> 00:27:35,728 Stop it! 401 00:27:35,796 --> 00:27:38,094 Get the hell out. This is a private conversation. 402 00:27:39,468 --> 00:27:41,661 She's pregnant! 403 00:27:48,008 --> 00:27:51,138 Don't try to pull that shit on me. I know that ain't true. 404 00:27:52,747 --> 00:27:54,306 There ain't no way. 405 00:27:56,553 --> 00:27:58,111 Stay away. 406 00:28:00,222 --> 00:28:02,020 Paula, I'm so sorry. I just wanted... 407 00:28:02,092 --> 00:28:04,525 You're gonna pay for that. 408 00:28:04,593 --> 00:28:06,356 Paula! I jus... 409 00:28:10,868 --> 00:28:12,665 Is everything OK? 410 00:28:12,737 --> 00:28:14,898 Will you quit following me? 411 00:28:27,220 --> 00:28:28,413 Paula? 412 00:28:30,557 --> 00:28:33,923 Honey, you're crying. What's wrong? 413 00:28:35,095 --> 00:28:37,995 I ain't talking to him any more. 414 00:28:39,465 --> 00:28:42,697 That's a good girl. That's a good girl. Yeah. 415 00:28:44,306 --> 00:28:47,002 Yeah, we're gonna find you a good man, honey. 416 00:28:47,074 --> 00:28:49,407 Not like Andy or your daddy. 417 00:28:50,979 --> 00:28:53,344 But Sylvia said... 418 00:28:53,414 --> 00:28:54,904 What? 419 00:28:59,087 --> 00:29:02,319 She's tellin' horrible lies about me. 420 00:29:05,996 --> 00:29:07,792 What kind of lies? 421 00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:16,132 Telling everyone I'm a slut. 422 00:29:19,778 --> 00:29:23,678 You should've seen her with those boys, telling everyone I was a slut. 423 00:29:25,484 --> 00:29:27,178 Sylvia said that? 424 00:29:35,862 --> 00:29:37,726 Don't worry, babe. 425 00:29:39,198 --> 00:29:40,723 Don't you worry. 426 00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:51,074 Did you ever hear Sylvia use any profanity or vulgar language? 427 00:29:51,144 --> 00:29:52,874 No, sir. 428 00:29:52,947 --> 00:29:57,782 Now, do you know how often Sylvia went to Sunday School and church? 429 00:29:57,852 --> 00:29:59,548 She would go every time we would. 430 00:29:59,621 --> 00:30:01,111 Did Sylvia have a Bible? 431 00:30:01,189 --> 00:30:02,417 Yes. 432 00:30:02,491 --> 00:30:04,515 Did she dress up nice and clean? 433 00:30:04,592 --> 00:30:06,151 Yes, sir. 434 00:30:06,227 --> 00:30:10,221 As Matthew said, "Enter by the narrow gate, 435 00:30:10,299 --> 00:30:13,599 "for the gate is wide and the way is easy 436 00:30:13,671 --> 00:30:16,832 "that leads to destruction. 437 00:30:16,905 --> 00:30:19,967 "And those who enter by it are many, 438 00:30:21,979 --> 00:30:25,745 "for the gate is narrow and the way is hard 439 00:30:25,816 --> 00:30:27,909 "that leads to life. 440 00:30:27,985 --> 00:30:31,945 And those who find it are few." 441 00:30:49,075 --> 00:30:51,202 Jennie, come sit with me. 442 00:31:11,132 --> 00:31:14,626 We need to get upstairs and get changed. 443 00:31:16,471 --> 00:31:18,133 I want you all down here. 444 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:21,035 Family meeting. 445 00:31:23,846 --> 00:31:25,838 It's a lesson for all of you. 446 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,634 You need to apologize to Paula. 447 00:31:51,877 --> 00:31:53,140 But, Gertie, I didn't... 448 00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:55,373 I want you to apologize. 449 00:31:55,448 --> 00:31:57,176 What'd she do, Mama? 450 00:31:57,249 --> 00:32:00,549 She's been spreadin' lies about your sister. 451 00:32:10,098 --> 00:32:11,724 I'm sorry. 452 00:32:13,468 --> 00:32:16,995 Paula, you have a right to get even. 453 00:32:17,072 --> 00:32:18,902 What do you want to do? 454 00:32:18,973 --> 00:32:21,534 I want you to punish her, Mama. 455 00:32:23,777 --> 00:32:26,543 You need to learn to fight your own battles, baby. 456 00:32:26,615 --> 00:32:28,674 Johnny, grab her arms. 457 00:32:29,785 --> 00:32:31,276 I said I was sorry! 458 00:32:31,355 --> 00:32:32,719 I don't care what you said! 459 00:32:35,958 --> 00:32:38,587 Go on. She's got it comin'. 460 00:32:44,635 --> 00:32:45,863 That's it! 461 00:32:47,305 --> 00:32:49,499 See if she can defend herself. 462 00:32:56,081 --> 00:33:00,347 I am not! I am not! 463 00:33:00,419 --> 00:33:02,615 She's not! 464 00:33:04,858 --> 00:33:06,381 Damn-it! 465 00:33:07,794 --> 00:33:09,055 That's it, that's it. 466 00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:14,196 Get up. Get up. 467 00:33:19,006 --> 00:33:20,872 She's learned her lesson. 468 00:33:20,942 --> 00:33:24,468 That's what happens when you tell lies. 469 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,977 Go on. 470 00:33:38,428 --> 00:33:39,655 You, too. Get. 471 00:34:02,987 --> 00:34:04,751 Are you awake? 472 00:34:11,263 --> 00:34:12,662 Are you OK? 473 00:34:16,336 --> 00:34:18,496 Did you say your prayers yet? 474 00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:24,274 How about Mama's favorite Psalm? 475 00:34:31,086 --> 00:34:34,646 "Turn Thou to me, and be gracious to me, Lord, 476 00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:39,290 "For I am lonely and afflicted. 477 00:34:39,361 --> 00:34:42,091 "Relieve the troubles of my heart, 478 00:34:42,164 --> 00:34:44,725 "and bring me out of my distresses. 479 00:34:47,604 --> 00:34:50,936 "Consider how many are my foes, 480 00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:52,441 Thank you. 481 00:34:52,509 --> 00:34:54,738 "And with what violence they hate me. 482 00:34:57,082 --> 00:34:59,607 "Guard my life and deliver me. 483 00:35:01,517 --> 00:35:03,850 "Let me not be put to shame, 484 00:35:05,557 --> 00:35:07,751 "for I take refuge in Thee. 485 00:35:10,662 --> 00:35:13,723 "May integrity and uprightness preserve me, 486 00:35:18,136 --> 00:35:19,900 for I wait for Thee." 487 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:41,222 I hear your sister's pregnant. Who's the guy? 488 00:35:41,295 --> 00:35:44,458 Stop it, Coy. That's not funny. 489 00:35:44,532 --> 00:35:46,091 I didn't say it. 490 00:35:48,302 --> 00:35:50,771 A lot of people are talking. 491 00:36:14,498 --> 00:36:16,091 Why aren't you in school? 492 00:36:27,512 --> 00:36:29,447 You... doing OK? 493 00:36:31,216 --> 00:36:32,479 Yeah. 494 00:36:32,553 --> 00:36:35,215 It's... Sylvia, right? 495 00:36:35,289 --> 00:36:36,949 Yeah. 496 00:36:38,125 --> 00:36:40,026 Eric. 497 00:36:40,095 --> 00:36:42,358 Yeah, I... I've seen you at church. 498 00:36:42,429 --> 00:36:44,124 Yeah, that's me. 499 00:36:45,366 --> 00:36:47,162 You going to the picnic on Saturday? 500 00:36:48,935 --> 00:36:51,030 I hope so. 501 00:36:51,105 --> 00:36:53,699 OK. Maybe I'll see you there. 502 00:36:58,913 --> 00:37:00,973 I... I better go. 503 00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:02,641 OK. 504 00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:09,515 What was Mama so upset about the other day? 505 00:37:09,592 --> 00:37:12,994 You heard. Told everyone Paula was a slut. 506 00:37:13,063 --> 00:37:15,327 That's not true, is it? 507 00:37:17,434 --> 00:37:20,428 There's some worse rumors going round about her now. 508 00:37:24,308 --> 00:37:26,538 You think she's pregnant? 509 00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:28,102 What do you think? 510 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:30,239 She's easy. 511 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,792 Thanks. 512 00:37:43,563 --> 00:37:46,430 How's your mama? 513 00:37:46,499 --> 00:37:48,467 OK. 514 00:37:48,535 --> 00:37:50,629 She still in the hospital? 515 00:37:50,704 --> 00:37:52,331 Yeah. 516 00:37:58,145 --> 00:38:00,113 Who's taking care of you? 517 00:38:03,284 --> 00:38:04,718 I am. 518 00:38:07,656 --> 00:38:09,648 You don't have a girlfriend? 519 00:38:12,196 --> 00:38:13,663 I don't know. 520 00:38:13,729 --> 00:38:14,729 You don't know? 521 00:38:14,797 --> 00:38:16,595 No. I don't know. 522 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:18,260 Does she know? 523 00:38:22,573 --> 00:38:23,938 You want a sip? 524 00:38:24,007 --> 00:38:25,634 I ain't old enough. 525 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,578 You ain't old enough to smoke either, but that's not stoppin' you. 526 00:38:38,524 --> 00:38:39,718 Jennie? 527 00:38:40,992 --> 00:38:44,053 I think we should call Mom and Dad. 528 00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:46,690 How are we supposed to do that? 529 00:38:46,766 --> 00:38:49,326 I found this in the trash. 530 00:38:55,842 --> 00:38:59,244 So... how long is Sylvia gonna be staying here? 531 00:39:00,347 --> 00:39:02,839 You got a crush on Sylvia? 532 00:39:10,858 --> 00:39:13,090 She is pretty. 533 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:16,221 When I was in high school, 534 00:39:16,297 --> 00:39:20,031 I was popular with the boys, too. They all chased me. 535 00:39:22,905 --> 00:39:24,532 I believe it. 536 00:39:25,774 --> 00:39:27,436 Thank you. 537 00:39:28,911 --> 00:39:31,345 You're warm! 538 00:39:37,154 --> 00:39:39,783 What are you doing home from school so early? 539 00:39:39,858 --> 00:39:42,588 I'm not feeling real good. 540 00:39:43,862 --> 00:39:46,331 Paula? 541 00:39:46,398 --> 00:39:47,921 You better go. 542 00:39:50,001 --> 00:39:51,663 All right, you first. 543 00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:52,896 Hello? 544 00:39:52,971 --> 00:39:54,634 Mama? 545 00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:57,175 Honey! I was afraid you didn't get our letter. 546 00:39:57,244 --> 00:39:59,804 Mama, we miss you so much. 547 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,347 I miss you, too, honey. 548 00:40:01,416 --> 00:40:03,576 I'm gonna be picking you up in two weeks. 549 00:40:03,651 --> 00:40:05,708 So, how's everything going there? 550 00:40:07,654 --> 00:40:10,180 Well, Gertrude's awful strict, Mama. 551 00:40:10,257 --> 00:40:12,419 We got in a whole lot of trouble. 552 00:40:12,494 --> 00:40:14,188 What do you mean? Did she punish you? 553 00:40:14,262 --> 00:40:17,254 What, have those girls been gettin' in trouble again? 554 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:19,392 She got mad 'cause your check's late. 555 00:40:19,466 --> 00:40:20,991 Our check was late? 556 00:40:21,069 --> 00:40:24,061 No, it wasn't. Let me talk to her. 557 00:40:24,139 --> 00:40:25,697 We gotta go. 558 00:40:25,775 --> 00:40:28,038 Sylvia? Sylvia! 559 00:40:30,446 --> 00:40:32,108 They're coming, Mama. 560 00:40:41,826 --> 00:40:44,920 Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia? 561 00:40:44,995 --> 00:40:48,123 No. I mean, nobody special. 562 00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:51,465 It was our parents. 563 00:40:51,536 --> 00:40:53,629 Thank you, Jennie. 564 00:40:53,705 --> 00:40:56,402 Where'd you get the money to make a long distance call? 565 00:40:56,476 --> 00:41:00,070 I went bottle-picking in the park and traded them in. 566 00:41:00,145 --> 00:41:02,546 Honest, that's all she did. 567 00:41:18,632 --> 00:41:20,100 What's she gonna do? 568 00:41:20,168 --> 00:41:24,161 What she always does when she catches you stealing. 569 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,332 Are you gonna lie to me again? 570 00:41:26,408 --> 00:41:27,739 No, Gertie. 571 00:41:27,809 --> 00:41:29,777 You gonna steal in this household? 572 00:41:29,845 --> 00:41:32,313 I didn't steal from you, Gertie. 573 00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,280 Are you gonna call your parents 574 00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:37,444 and whine that Gertie doesn't treat you right? 575 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,612 No, ma'am. 576 00:41:39,687 --> 00:41:41,179 OK. 577 00:41:44,528 --> 00:41:47,258 I'm sorry! I'm sorry! 578 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:48,661 No! 579 00:41:54,372 --> 00:41:58,002 OK. OK. That's a good girl. That's a good girl. 580 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,545 You want to put some ice on that. 581 00:42:13,859 --> 00:42:17,318 Now, I think you stated, Marie, that your sister Paula, 582 00:42:17,398 --> 00:42:21,356 you volunteered, that Paula was jealous of Sylvia? 583 00:42:21,434 --> 00:42:25,064 Every time she looked at her, her eyes looked like she hated her. 584 00:42:25,139 --> 00:42:28,574 Do you know what the word jealous means? 585 00:42:28,642 --> 00:42:30,542 Angry at someone? 586 00:42:30,611 --> 00:42:32,705 Can you assign a reason 587 00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:37,048 as to why Paula might shoot Sylvia those angry, jealous glances? 588 00:42:39,287 --> 00:42:41,518 I guess because Sylvia thought 589 00:42:41,591 --> 00:42:44,684 she was so much more important than Paula was. 590 00:42:44,759 --> 00:42:47,593 Do you remember a time you went to Bethany Baptist Church 591 00:42:47,663 --> 00:42:50,928 and they had little sandwiches and something to drink? 592 00:42:55,105 --> 00:42:58,303 Haven't seen you at Youth Group in a few weeks. 593 00:42:58,376 --> 00:43:02,608 I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach, I had to work. 594 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,739 What happened to your arm, Paula? 595 00:43:06,016 --> 00:43:08,578 I lost my temper... with Sylvia. 596 00:43:08,654 --> 00:43:11,621 Well, what do you mean? What happened? 597 00:43:14,194 --> 00:43:17,287 She's been doing some real terrible things. 598 00:43:17,362 --> 00:43:19,696 Had to be real strict with her. 599 00:43:22,101 --> 00:43:24,262 It's OK, it's OK. Come on. 600 00:43:24,336 --> 00:43:26,568 Don't take too much. 601 00:43:28,575 --> 00:43:30,167 What are you doing here? 602 00:43:30,243 --> 00:43:33,041 Came by for the free food. And the women. 603 00:43:34,314 --> 00:43:35,874 I hope you don't want any money, 604 00:43:35,951 --> 00:43:38,419 because until John Senior sends me... 605 00:43:38,487 --> 00:43:40,113 I'm not here for money. 606 00:43:40,186 --> 00:43:43,157 Bradley sent me. About Paula. 607 00:43:46,027 --> 00:43:47,517 Did you say hi to the baby yet? 608 00:43:52,267 --> 00:43:53,735 Look, about yesterday... 609 00:43:53,803 --> 00:43:55,236 It's fine. 610 00:43:55,305 --> 00:43:56,896 I'm really... 611 00:43:56,971 --> 00:43:59,408 It's all right. Mama'll be back end of this week. 612 00:44:08,284 --> 00:44:10,083 Hey. 613 00:44:10,155 --> 00:44:11,918 Hi. 614 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:15,619 Couple of my friends, we're eating over there, if you want to join us. 615 00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:17,025 Sure. 616 00:44:17,095 --> 00:44:19,154 OK. 617 00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:20,720 Sylvia. 618 00:44:20,799 --> 00:44:22,391 Just one second. 619 00:44:22,468 --> 00:44:25,631 Yeah, I'll be over there. 620 00:44:25,705 --> 00:44:29,641 Ricky, you know what I said the other day about Paula? 621 00:44:29,709 --> 00:44:31,643 Did you say something? 622 00:44:31,711 --> 00:44:33,771 No. 623 00:44:33,847 --> 00:44:37,647 'Cause people are talkin', and Stephanie and Paula, they're blamin' me. 624 00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:40,483 No, no. I wouldn't do something like that. 625 00:44:42,023 --> 00:44:43,785 I better go. 626 00:44:49,330 --> 00:44:51,525 They're saying she's pregnant? 627 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,000 I bet he'd be willing to pay for the abortion if... 628 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:56,037 Shut up! Keep your voice down, please. 629 00:44:56,103 --> 00:45:00,166 If Paula's willing to go through with it. Anything to keep it quiet. 630 00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:02,143 Here. 631 00:45:05,348 --> 00:45:08,544 There's not gonna be any abortion, because she's not pregnant. 632 00:45:08,617 --> 00:45:12,019 He didn't even know about it. I think Sylvia's the one saying it. 633 00:45:13,824 --> 00:45:17,885 That girl has been nothing but trouble since she came into my house. 634 00:45:17,961 --> 00:45:21,659 If anybody's pregnant, she is. I bet she is. 635 00:45:26,304 --> 00:45:28,363 I'm gonna take off. 636 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,772 Bye, Kenny. 637 00:45:30,842 --> 00:45:32,309 Bye. 638 00:45:35,012 --> 00:45:36,207 He'll be back, baby. 639 00:45:36,281 --> 00:45:37,544 Hey. 640 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:43,854 Coming over to hang out with the grownups? 641 00:45:50,598 --> 00:45:52,655 I got some advice for you. 642 00:45:52,732 --> 00:45:55,794 I wouldn't come between Gertie and her kids. 643 00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:58,896 She don't like it much. All right. 644 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:06,973 OK, Gertie? 645 00:46:09,484 --> 00:46:11,647 Yeah. I'm fine. 646 00:46:13,656 --> 00:46:15,862 A bunch of us're gonna go cruise the circle. 647 00:46:15,886 --> 00:46:17,013 You want to come with? 648 00:46:18,563 --> 00:46:22,556 I should probably ask Gertie first. 649 00:46:22,633 --> 00:46:24,623 You sure? 650 00:46:26,136 --> 00:46:28,298 Come on, let's get out of here. 651 00:46:34,412 --> 00:46:37,141 Looks like Sylvia's going off with them boys. 652 00:46:37,214 --> 00:46:40,186 You sound surprised, Ricky Hobbs. 653 00:46:40,252 --> 00:46:42,049 You shouldn't be. 654 00:46:43,389 --> 00:46:45,721 Let me go again. 655 00:46:48,728 --> 00:46:50,787 OK, Patty, you can go now. 656 00:46:54,935 --> 00:46:57,459 Sure you can't come to the drive-in with us? 657 00:46:59,273 --> 00:47:02,402 No, I... I'm late as it is. 658 00:47:03,811 --> 00:47:05,336 Come on. 659 00:47:08,249 --> 00:47:10,810 Well, I guess I'll see you next Sunday, then. 660 00:47:24,634 --> 00:47:26,225 Shut that door. 661 00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:42,445 I thought I taught you a lesson. 662 00:47:47,393 --> 00:47:49,725 I don't understand. 663 00:47:49,794 --> 00:47:54,061 Apparently, you've been telling more lies about my daughter. 664 00:47:56,803 --> 00:47:59,430 I haven't told any lies. 665 00:48:03,308 --> 00:48:05,210 And then you flirt with Andy. 666 00:48:05,278 --> 00:48:07,042 I didn't. 667 00:48:07,114 --> 00:48:08,910 I saw you! 668 00:48:14,422 --> 00:48:17,482 It doesn't matter what you want, you'll just... 669 00:48:17,558 --> 00:48:20,585 You'll just go take it! 670 00:48:20,662 --> 00:48:26,532 No, Gertie. We were just talkin'. 671 00:48:26,602 --> 00:48:28,365 That's all. 672 00:48:34,277 --> 00:48:35,609 Who's in charge here? 673 00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:37,203 You are, Mama. 674 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,374 That's right, baby. 675 00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:53,655 Paula told me about those boys in California. 676 00:48:53,732 --> 00:48:57,327 Ricky, did Sylvia tell you about all those boys in California? 677 00:48:59,170 --> 00:49:00,695 No. 678 00:49:03,174 --> 00:49:06,441 Well, if you won't listen, maybe I can get through to your sister. 679 00:49:06,513 --> 00:49:10,415 Keep her from making your mistakes. 680 00:49:10,484 --> 00:49:14,750 Jennie. Do you wanna be like your sister? 681 00:49:17,725 --> 00:49:18,953 No, ma'am. 682 00:49:21,296 --> 00:49:23,263 That's a good girl. 683 00:49:56,634 --> 00:49:59,262 Patty, then what did Mrs. Baniszewski do? 684 00:49:59,337 --> 00:50:03,468 She handed her the bottle and told her to pull up her skirt. 685 00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:05,407 And then? 686 00:50:05,478 --> 00:50:09,106 And then, she said to put it up her. 687 00:50:11,751 --> 00:50:15,210 Did Sylvia say anything when Mrs. Baniszewski asked her to do this? 688 00:50:15,289 --> 00:50:18,485 All she said was... 689 00:50:18,558 --> 00:50:20,356 I can't. 690 00:50:20,427 --> 00:50:22,587 What did Mrs. Baniszewski say? 691 00:50:22,664 --> 00:50:23,856 She said... 692 00:50:23,930 --> 00:50:25,922 Come on. You can do better than that. 693 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,764 Then what did Sylvia do? 694 00:50:27,835 --> 00:50:30,532 What Gertie told her to. 695 00:50:32,774 --> 00:50:34,105 What the hell's going on? 696 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:37,271 Somebody clean up that mess! 697 00:50:37,345 --> 00:50:40,405 Sylvia, get upstairs. Coy, get her up there! 698 00:50:44,955 --> 00:50:48,913 Wait! I will not have her in the same room with my daughters. 699 00:50:48,991 --> 00:50:50,584 Take her to the basement. 700 00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:53,424 Please. I'm sorry! I'm sorry! 701 00:50:53,497 --> 00:50:56,728 I'm sorry! Jennie! Jennie! I'm sorry! 702 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,564 Get her out of here! 703 00:51:01,406 --> 00:51:04,932 Best to stay out of it, I think. 704 00:51:05,007 --> 00:51:08,706 Don't worry, Jennie. Mama's just teaching her. 705 00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:10,248 She won't go down! 706 00:51:10,315 --> 00:51:12,339 I don't care! Just push her! 707 00:52:11,281 --> 00:52:13,443 Hey, Mariel 708 00:52:45,721 --> 00:52:47,881 Sylvia. 709 00:52:47,955 --> 00:52:49,684 Sylvia. 710 00:52:55,329 --> 00:52:57,457 I'm sorry, Sylvia. 711 00:52:59,234 --> 00:53:01,600 But I'm scared. 712 00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:05,107 I... I tried talking with Gertie. 713 00:53:09,412 --> 00:53:14,248 She... she said you could have your Bible. 714 00:53:17,488 --> 00:53:21,789 Jennie, Mama wants you upstairs. 715 00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:24,193 Family meeting. 716 00:53:26,365 --> 00:53:28,354 I'll do what I can. 717 00:53:29,935 --> 00:53:31,369 She said now. 718 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,223 Stop hitting me! 719 00:53:56,297 --> 00:53:57,662 Give it to me! 720 00:53:57,732 --> 00:54:01,065 John, get me my medicine, please. 721 00:54:02,938 --> 00:54:06,999 This neighborhood, it's not good for my asthma. 722 00:54:07,076 --> 00:54:09,067 Maybe we could move. 723 00:54:09,144 --> 00:54:10,805 Where would we move to, Shirley? 724 00:54:10,878 --> 00:54:12,744 I don't know. 725 00:54:12,815 --> 00:54:14,613 I don't wanna move. 726 00:54:20,957 --> 00:54:23,481 I had a call with your parents today. 727 00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:25,756 Are they coming for us? 728 00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:28,127 They picked up the Florida leg of the circuit, 729 00:54:28,198 --> 00:54:31,135 so they won't be here for you until the end of November now. 730 00:54:31,203 --> 00:54:34,104 Their checks are comin' in regular, 731 00:54:34,172 --> 00:54:37,402 but my ironing's slowed down 732 00:54:37,475 --> 00:54:39,239 quite a bit. 733 00:54:39,311 --> 00:54:42,542 So we're all gonna have to work together as a family. 734 00:54:42,614 --> 00:54:46,517 Maybe I can eat more at Coy's house, Mama. That might help. 735 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:48,110 Coy? 736 00:54:48,187 --> 00:54:51,486 Mama won't mind. She likes Stephanie a lot. 737 00:54:51,557 --> 00:54:53,082 Thank you. 738 00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:58,328 Paula. 739 00:54:58,399 --> 00:55:01,698 Baby, you're gonna have to pick up more shifts at work. 740 00:55:01,768 --> 00:55:03,704 Maybe quit Tech for a while. 741 00:55:05,739 --> 00:55:08,368 What about Stephanie? 742 00:55:08,443 --> 00:55:10,206 Why does she get to go to school? 743 00:55:10,278 --> 00:55:11,905 'Cause she's smarter than you! 744 00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:13,881 Shut up, Johnny. 745 00:55:13,949 --> 00:55:16,509 I'm smarter than the both of you! 746 00:55:16,586 --> 00:55:20,112 Stop it! Y'all stop it! 747 00:55:23,092 --> 00:55:25,891 That's another thing we have to work on around here. 748 00:55:25,962 --> 00:55:30,365 We all have to learn to get along better. 749 00:55:30,433 --> 00:55:35,336 How long until Sylvia's out of the basement? 750 00:55:36,941 --> 00:55:40,104 Until she learns her lesson. 751 00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:43,572 Mama. 752 00:55:46,885 --> 00:55:49,445 She needs to be punished, Paula. 753 00:55:52,424 --> 00:55:54,085 Yes, Mama. 754 00:55:56,729 --> 00:55:59,529 Now, if anybody asks, 755 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:03,365 Sylvia had to go to Juvenile. 756 00:56:08,943 --> 00:56:10,376 You got that, Jennie? 757 00:56:17,852 --> 00:56:19,616 OK. 758 00:56:20,655 --> 00:56:22,350 That's it. 759 00:56:48,253 --> 00:56:50,118 Are you asleep? 760 00:56:56,528 --> 00:56:58,325 You OK? 761 00:57:05,472 --> 00:57:08,031 It's only gonna be for a little while. 762 00:57:19,619 --> 00:57:22,850 Did you ever hear or see Sylvia talk back to any of these people 763 00:57:22,923 --> 00:57:24,982 when these things were being done to her? 764 00:57:25,058 --> 00:57:26,687 No, I never. 765 00:57:26,762 --> 00:57:29,787 When it first started, did she say anything then? 766 00:57:29,864 --> 00:57:34,165 No, except she would say "I'm sorry," or something like that, 767 00:57:34,236 --> 00:57:38,866 as if she did something wrong, but she never did anything wrong. 768 00:57:38,941 --> 00:57:44,403 Did you yourself on any of these occasions do anything to Sylvia? 769 00:57:44,482 --> 00:57:46,847 I just did what I was told. 770 00:57:50,488 --> 00:57:52,080 During the month of September, 771 00:57:52,156 --> 00:57:55,387 did you see anyone else do anything to Sylvia? 772 00:58:37,872 --> 00:58:39,635 See, I told you so. 773 00:58:43,113 --> 00:58:44,808 Damn! 774 00:58:44,881 --> 00:58:46,141 What'd she do? 775 00:58:46,214 --> 00:58:47,613 She's been real bad. 776 00:58:47,683 --> 00:58:50,209 She's dirty. Mama said she's a slut. 777 00:58:53,824 --> 00:58:55,085 Johnny! 778 00:58:55,158 --> 00:58:58,252 Don't worry about it. She's used to it. 779 00:58:59,463 --> 00:59:01,022 Watch this. 780 00:59:07,972 --> 00:59:08,996 Nice? 781 00:59:09,074 --> 00:59:10,770 You just burn her like that? 782 00:59:10,843 --> 00:59:12,433 Yeah. You can, too. 783 00:59:12,511 --> 00:59:13,636 I don't want to. 784 00:59:13,712 --> 00:59:14,712 You chicken? 785 00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:16,146 It's OK. 786 00:59:16,216 --> 00:59:17,807 Mama said we can. 787 00:59:47,182 --> 00:59:51,517 Did you see Sally take cigarettes and actually burn Sylvia with them? 788 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:52,712 Yes. 789 00:59:52,788 --> 00:59:54,085 How many times? 790 00:59:54,155 --> 00:59:57,319 She would do it every time she came over. 791 00:59:57,393 --> 00:59:59,155 And how many times would that be? 792 00:59:59,227 --> 01:00:01,061 Every day. 793 01:00:01,132 --> 01:00:03,724 Did you go to 3850 East New York Street 794 01:00:03,799 --> 01:00:06,030 during the months of September and October? 795 01:00:06,103 --> 01:00:09,164 Yes, sir. We would go most days after school. 796 01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:12,869 And did you see Sylvia Likens in the basement of that house? 797 01:00:12,944 --> 01:00:14,309 Yes, sir. 798 01:00:14,378 --> 01:00:16,244 Did you do anything at all to help her? 799 01:00:16,314 --> 01:00:18,044 No, sir. 800 01:00:18,117 --> 01:00:20,950 What would the other children be doing around the house? 801 01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:22,885 Playing around. 802 01:00:22,955 --> 01:00:25,617 Did you tell the other kids they should come over to the house 803 01:00:25,691 --> 01:00:27,989 because everyone was having fun with Sylvia? 804 01:00:28,060 --> 01:00:30,586 I just thought we were punishing her. 805 01:00:30,664 --> 01:00:34,430 Where was John standing when he was washing her down? 806 01:00:34,502 --> 01:00:35,833 Right in front of her. 807 01:00:35,903 --> 01:00:37,766 What part of her body was he spraying? 808 01:00:37,837 --> 01:00:38,929 All over. 809 01:00:39,006 --> 01:00:40,200 Whose hose was he using? 810 01:00:40,274 --> 01:00:42,264 My hose, sir 811 01:00:42,342 --> 01:00:45,710 Sally, did you see some of the other neighborhood kids hurt Sylvia? 812 01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:47,679 Yes. 813 01:00:47,748 --> 01:00:51,048 Did you tell anybody you saw these things? 814 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,246 Not really. 815 01:00:54,321 --> 01:00:58,053 You told no one what was happening at the Baniszewski house? 816 01:00:58,127 --> 01:01:03,792 Well, I told my father Gertrude gave Sylvia an awful whipping. 817 01:01:03,865 --> 01:01:08,064 But he just told me I shouldn't do whatever she did or I'd get the same. 818 01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:14,370 Shirley, was your mother ever present while other people did things to Sylvia? 819 01:01:14,444 --> 01:01:16,344 Yes, she was. 820 01:01:16,412 --> 01:01:19,040 How many times? 821 01:01:19,116 --> 01:01:21,243 She was around about all the time. 822 01:01:21,318 --> 01:01:26,278 And what did she say when these... the people were doing things to Sylvia? 823 01:01:26,357 --> 01:01:28,223 Nothing. 824 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,260 Did anyone order you to hit Sylvia? 825 01:01:37,336 --> 01:01:39,202 No, sir. 826 01:01:39,273 --> 01:01:40,932 Or tie her up? 827 01:01:41,006 --> 01:01:42,065 No, sir. 828 01:01:42,142 --> 01:01:43,199 Or wash her down? 829 01:01:43,275 --> 01:01:44,334 No, sir. 830 01:01:44,411 --> 01:01:46,470 Then why did you do it, Teddy? 831 01:01:46,546 --> 01:01:47,910 I don't know, sir. 832 01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:50,177 I don't know, sir. 833 01:01:50,251 --> 01:01:52,514 I don't know, sir. 834 01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:02,162 You two go upstairs. 835 01:02:02,231 --> 01:02:04,062 Yes, Mama. 836 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:37,565 Who is it? 837 01:02:39,472 --> 01:02:41,168 You got any cigarettes? 838 01:03:00,227 --> 01:03:02,628 Heard anything from Sylvia? 839 01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:07,560 You really like her, don't you? 840 01:03:08,971 --> 01:03:11,370 She's no good for you, honey. 841 01:03:14,109 --> 01:03:16,599 Do you know when she's gonna be back? 842 01:03:18,348 --> 01:03:23,580 Ricky, I told you, she won't have anything to do with you. 843 01:03:23,652 --> 01:03:26,212 She's too busy with other boys. 844 01:03:27,490 --> 01:03:30,015 That's why I had to send her to juvie. 845 01:03:36,534 --> 01:03:38,695 There. Go on. Get. 846 01:03:45,444 --> 01:03:47,309 Here's your money. 847 01:03:47,379 --> 01:03:49,141 Thank you, baby. 848 01:03:49,213 --> 01:03:52,206 Paula. 849 01:03:52,284 --> 01:03:56,220 Honey, you are a good daughter. I'm so proud of you. 850 01:03:56,289 --> 01:04:01,249 Doesn't matter what people say. You've been holdin' your head up high. 851 01:04:03,229 --> 01:04:05,062 We're gettin' through this. 852 01:04:06,733 --> 01:04:09,100 What about Sylvia? 853 01:04:13,608 --> 01:04:15,405 Mama. 854 01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:18,914 I've been prayin' 855 01:04:18,981 --> 01:04:21,107 and I think maybe it's time to forgive her. 856 01:04:21,182 --> 01:04:24,118 I think she's learned her lesson. 857 01:04:24,187 --> 01:04:27,452 There are things in life we have to do, 858 01:04:27,523 --> 01:04:29,991 whether we like it or not. 859 01:04:31,428 --> 01:04:33,793 Well, I don't want any part of it. 860 01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:38,064 Paula. 861 01:04:39,536 --> 01:04:41,527 Paula? 862 01:04:41,605 --> 01:04:44,199 Come down here and talk to me! 863 01:05:08,901 --> 01:05:12,133 Sylvia. I'm not gonna hurt you. 864 01:05:12,205 --> 01:05:14,673 I'm not gonna hurt you. 865 01:05:29,257 --> 01:05:32,091 I know what it's like to be sick, Sylvia. 866 01:05:45,376 --> 01:05:47,937 I've been sick for so long, too. 867 01:05:50,714 --> 01:05:55,947 I can't discipline my kids the way that I should. 868 01:06:00,058 --> 01:06:02,959 I punish them, I know, but... 869 01:06:03,028 --> 01:06:08,091 sometimes with my medicine, it gets so I don't know what I'm doing. 870 01:06:14,574 --> 01:06:17,338 And I care for them so much. 871 01:06:24,550 --> 01:06:27,452 And Paula, the thing is that... 872 01:06:29,122 --> 01:06:31,557 Paula's a lot like me. 873 01:06:34,461 --> 01:06:38,059 I had her when I was just about your age. 874 01:06:43,405 --> 01:06:47,136 And then it was Stephanie. 875 01:06:49,478 --> 01:06:51,470 And then all the others. 876 01:06:57,955 --> 01:06:59,752 Then John left. 877 01:07:07,565 --> 01:07:09,830 And here I am. I'm still 878 01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:16,436 doing everything I can to keep my family together. 879 01:07:18,777 --> 01:07:21,338 I want something better for Paula. 880 01:07:26,619 --> 01:07:28,781 There has to be something better. 881 01:07:42,070 --> 01:07:45,130 And I need to protect my children. 882 01:07:48,944 --> 01:07:51,105 Do you understand that? 883 01:07:52,381 --> 01:07:54,042 You kids, 884 01:07:55,218 --> 01:07:57,082 you're all I've got. 885 01:08:16,742 --> 01:08:18,437 Thank you, Sylvia. 886 01:08:22,147 --> 01:08:24,173 Thank you. 887 01:08:24,248 --> 01:08:26,946 Thank you for understanding. 888 01:08:40,767 --> 01:08:43,736 For... OK. 889 01:08:49,009 --> 01:08:50,442 Hello, Reverend. 890 01:08:54,317 --> 01:08:56,283 I've been meaning to come by and visit, 891 01:08:56,352 --> 01:09:00,413 but when Paula came to the church to talk to me, it just pushed me a little. 892 01:09:00,488 --> 01:09:03,653 Well, what's that girl been bothering you with? 893 01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:10,298 Well, she's concerned about you, of course. And the whole house. 894 01:09:10,367 --> 01:09:13,302 And, there is something else. 895 01:09:14,738 --> 01:09:16,968 I think Paula may be pregnant. 896 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,203 Now, I'm prepared to offer what support I can, 897 01:09:20,278 --> 01:09:22,838 but I can't speak for the entire congregation. 898 01:09:22,915 --> 01:09:26,476 Reverend, I'm sorry. Thank you, but that is a vicious lie 899 01:09:26,552 --> 01:09:30,578 and a rumor spread by that Likens girl. 900 01:09:30,656 --> 01:09:33,854 Gertrude, Paula talked to me herself. 901 01:09:33,926 --> 01:09:37,794 I don't understand that. I'll try to get to the bottom of that with Paula. 902 01:09:37,864 --> 01:09:40,627 Sylvia's been a very bad influence on her 903 01:09:40,699 --> 01:09:44,797 since she came to my house, and I have... 904 01:09:44,872 --> 01:09:47,169 I just cannot discipline that girl. 905 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,607 Well, she did mention Sylvia as well. 906 01:09:49,677 --> 01:09:52,203 It wasn't clear, but she said there were some problems, 907 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,748 and I haven't seen Sylvia in church in weeks, 908 01:09:54,815 --> 01:09:57,648 so I thought I should just sit down and talk with her. 909 01:09:57,718 --> 01:10:00,984 I'm afraid I had to send her to Juvenile. 910 01:10:01,056 --> 01:10:04,253 I just could not handle that girl. 911 01:10:04,326 --> 01:10:05,886 I caught her stealing from me... 912 01:10:05,962 --> 01:10:07,587 Have you spoken to her parents? 913 01:10:07,663 --> 01:10:12,225 I tried. I wrote them. I called. I haven't gotten a response. 914 01:10:12,301 --> 01:10:16,034 Frankly, I now understand why they just dropped her with me. 915 01:10:16,106 --> 01:10:17,801 I see. 916 01:10:17,875 --> 01:10:21,537 I should just go by the Juvenile Center and speak to Sylvia myself. 917 01:10:21,612 --> 01:10:23,011 I'll try and arrange that. 918 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,603 Hi, Reverend Bill. 919 01:10:24,681 --> 01:10:25,808 Hi, Reverend Bill. 920 01:10:25,882 --> 01:10:27,545 Hey, kids. 921 01:10:27,619 --> 01:10:30,349 Will you just see to little Kenny, please? 922 01:10:30,422 --> 01:10:32,914 We can continue this discussion later. 923 01:10:32,991 --> 01:10:35,323 Thank you, Reverend. 924 01:10:40,132 --> 01:10:42,293 I'll see you on Sunday, then. 925 01:10:42,368 --> 01:10:45,462 I'm expecting you in my office before the end of the week. 926 01:10:45,539 --> 01:10:48,098 We need to talk about this. 927 01:10:48,174 --> 01:10:49,437 Yes, Reverend. 928 01:10:49,509 --> 01:10:51,239 OK, Gertrude. 929 01:11:01,188 --> 01:11:02,712 Don't you have any sense? 930 01:11:05,861 --> 01:11:07,088 I'm doing this for you! 931 01:11:07,161 --> 01:11:09,288 You let go of me! 932 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,331 I want everybody in the basement I 933 01:11:22,612 --> 01:11:24,842 Please! 934 01:11:24,914 --> 01:11:27,645 You know why you're here, Sylvia! 935 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,561 Ricky. She came back. 936 01:11:38,629 --> 01:11:41,462 She came back from Juvenile 937 01:11:41,533 --> 01:11:43,900 and started stirring up trouble again. 938 01:11:43,969 --> 01:11:45,402 Stop! 939 01:11:47,972 --> 01:11:49,272 Johnny, hold her! 940 01:11:49,342 --> 01:11:50,740 Stop, please! Please! 941 01:11:50,809 --> 01:11:52,299 Keep her still I 942 01:11:52,377 --> 01:11:55,142 Sylvia, if you move, it'll only be messy. 943 01:11:55,214 --> 01:11:57,114 Light that. 944 01:11:57,183 --> 01:12:00,085 No! No! No! No! 945 01:12:00,153 --> 01:12:03,453 No! No! No! No! Please! 946 01:12:03,524 --> 01:12:05,184 Please! Please! 947 01:12:05,259 --> 01:12:06,419 Stop it! 948 01:12:06,493 --> 01:12:08,223 Do we got it right, Mama? 949 01:12:08,296 --> 01:12:10,058 Make sure it's hot! 950 01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:12,190 I'm sorry! 951 01:12:12,266 --> 01:12:14,030 You're a liar. 952 01:12:14,101 --> 01:12:17,196 No! No! Please, no, please! 953 01:12:17,272 --> 01:12:20,105 Please! 954 01:12:20,175 --> 01:12:22,804 You branded my daughter! 955 01:12:24,245 --> 01:12:26,713 Now I have to brand you. 956 01:12:35,425 --> 01:12:37,052 Ricky! 957 01:12:38,862 --> 01:12:40,830 Finish this. 958 01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:44,492 Gertie, I can't. 959 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:46,434 Ricky, 960 01:12:46,504 --> 01:12:49,940 she's been with every boy but you! 961 01:12:50,007 --> 01:12:51,976 You can't let her get away with this. 962 01:12:52,043 --> 01:12:53,909 Please! 963 01:12:55,147 --> 01:12:56,910 Please, help me, Ricky. 964 01:12:56,982 --> 01:12:59,280 Please! Please! 965 01:12:59,351 --> 01:13:02,150 That's a good boy. 966 01:13:02,222 --> 01:13:03,813 Ricky. Ricky. 967 01:13:06,826 --> 01:13:08,351 Ricky! 968 01:13:08,428 --> 01:13:10,293 What does it say? 969 01:13:10,363 --> 01:13:11,921 It says, " I'm a prostitute, 970 01:13:14,435 --> 01:13:15,527 and proud of it." 971 01:13:21,041 --> 01:13:23,737 No, don't! Stop! 972 01:13:38,426 --> 01:13:40,123 Sylvia. 973 01:13:42,265 --> 01:13:45,167 You've gotta get out of here. 974 01:13:45,234 --> 01:13:48,136 You've gotta leave. You've gotta get out of here. Come on! 975 01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:08,725 Mama? 976 01:15:10,462 --> 01:15:12,396 We gotta get out of here. 977 01:15:12,465 --> 01:15:14,056 We're gonna find your parents. 978 01:15:14,133 --> 01:15:15,292 Jennie? 979 01:15:15,368 --> 01:15:17,335 I'm gonna take care of Jennie. 980 01:15:17,402 --> 01:15:19,702 Paula? No! 981 01:15:19,773 --> 01:15:22,240 Go! Go! Just go! 982 01:15:22,308 --> 01:15:24,470 What are you doing? 983 01:15:24,544 --> 01:15:26,069 Let me go! 984 01:15:27,313 --> 01:15:28,508 What's going on? 985 01:15:28,582 --> 01:15:30,847 Come on. Let's go in the house. 986 01:15:45,734 --> 01:15:47,326 Sylvia! 987 01:15:47,403 --> 01:15:51,567 Please. Please, help me. 988 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,666 No, I'm not gonna hurt you. I swear to God. I promise, I promise. 989 01:15:54,744 --> 01:15:58,009 I'm sorry. I didn't know what the hell I was doing, all right? 990 01:15:58,081 --> 01:16:01,311 You gotta believe me. Please! Please! 991 01:16:02,554 --> 01:16:03,850 You wanna get out of here? 992 01:16:03,921 --> 01:16:05,717 You wanna go? Let's go. 993 01:16:05,789 --> 01:16:08,884 Come on. Come on, you're all right. 994 01:16:14,433 --> 01:16:15,900 Where're we going? 995 01:16:15,967 --> 01:16:17,696 I don't know. 996 01:16:17,768 --> 01:16:21,399 The Police? You wanna go to the Police? We can tell them everything. 997 01:16:21,474 --> 01:16:23,406 I gotta get to my mom. 998 01:16:23,475 --> 01:16:24,942 Where's your mom at? 999 01:16:25,011 --> 01:16:27,945 I think she's in Portage. 1000 01:16:28,013 --> 01:16:30,107 We're going to Portage. 1001 01:16:32,018 --> 01:16:33,417 Damn-it! 1002 01:16:41,328 --> 01:16:43,092 Ricky I Ricky I 1003 01:16:43,164 --> 01:16:44,960 We're going! 1004 01:17:08,791 --> 01:17:11,284 I'll come with you. 1005 01:17:11,362 --> 01:17:13,260 No, you gotta get back. 1006 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,496 You gotta get back to Jennie and make sure nothing happens to her. 1007 01:17:23,307 --> 01:17:25,468 I won't let her out of my sight. 1008 01:17:27,246 --> 01:17:28,907 Thank you, Ricky. 1009 01:18:11,694 --> 01:18:12,718 Thank you. 1010 01:18:12,795 --> 01:18:14,423 Daddy? 1011 01:18:16,766 --> 01:18:18,632 Cookie? 1012 01:18:18,702 --> 01:18:19,931 What are you doing here? 1013 01:18:22,005 --> 01:18:25,202 Baby, what happened to you? 1014 01:18:34,819 --> 01:18:36,787 My God! 1015 01:18:38,023 --> 01:18:39,718 My God! 1016 01:18:44,329 --> 01:18:45,957 They did this to you? 1017 01:18:50,003 --> 01:18:53,029 I'm so, so sorry. 1018 01:18:53,106 --> 01:18:55,700 I'm just so sorry I left you there. 1019 01:18:55,775 --> 01:18:57,845 We spoke to Jennie on the phone last week. 1020 01:18:57,869 --> 01:18:59,361 She said everything was fine. 1021 01:18:59,413 --> 01:19:01,812 She's scared of her. 1022 01:19:01,882 --> 01:19:04,011 And we gotta get back. 1023 01:19:06,354 --> 01:19:08,288 Let's just talk in the car. 1024 01:19:08,357 --> 01:19:11,758 Everything's gonna be taken care of, Cookie. 1025 01:19:11,827 --> 01:19:14,090 You're with your family now. 1026 01:19:14,161 --> 01:19:16,358 I want... 1027 01:19:16,432 --> 01:19:18,490 Mama's gonna take care of you. 1028 01:19:24,374 --> 01:19:27,936 Hey, honey, we're here. 1029 01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:43,350 You stay here, Cookie. 1030 01:19:47,768 --> 01:19:50,031 I gotta do this. 1031 01:19:52,371 --> 01:19:54,602 I just gotta go in. 1032 01:20:25,808 --> 01:20:28,299 She's not breathing, Mama! 1033 01:20:28,377 --> 01:20:31,676 We'll wake her up, OK? Don't worry, she's faking. 1034 01:20:31,747 --> 01:20:33,773 Please wake up, please! 1035 01:20:33,849 --> 01:20:35,180 Stephanie? 1036 01:20:35,250 --> 01:20:36,615 She's not breathing! 1037 01:20:36,685 --> 01:20:38,314 She's faking, honey. 1038 01:20:38,389 --> 01:20:40,879 Somebody please do something! She's not breathing! 1039 01:20:40,956 --> 01:20:42,926 Johnny, where's that water? 1040 01:20:42,994 --> 01:20:44,985 Will you bring me some water, baby? 1041 01:20:45,062 --> 01:20:46,758 Give Mel 1042 01:20:46,832 --> 01:20:48,890 Please, somebody! She's not breathing! 1043 01:20:48,967 --> 01:20:51,435 Liar. Liar. Liar. Liar. 1044 01:20:51,503 --> 01:20:53,368 Mama, she's not faking it! 1045 01:20:53,437 --> 01:20:56,237 She came into my house and just told lies. 1046 01:20:56,309 --> 01:20:58,172 Stephanie, what's wrong? 1047 01:20:58,243 --> 01:21:00,178 Mama, we gotta do something! 1048 01:21:00,246 --> 01:21:02,475 She's... No, she's... 1049 01:21:02,547 --> 01:21:05,984 Breathe, Sylvia! Please, breathe! 1050 01:21:06,053 --> 01:21:08,213 Sylvia. 1051 01:21:13,127 --> 01:21:14,754 Shirley, it'll be OK. 1052 01:21:14,828 --> 01:21:17,923 Somebody please do something! She's not breathing! 1053 01:21:17,998 --> 01:21:20,592 Shut up, Stephanie! She's lying! 1054 01:21:20,667 --> 01:21:23,534 She's just been laying there. 1055 01:21:23,605 --> 01:21:24,629 My God. 1056 01:21:24,706 --> 01:21:26,435 Ricky, do something! 1057 01:21:26,508 --> 01:21:28,067 Look out. 1058 01:21:28,144 --> 01:21:29,405 Come on. 1059 01:21:29,478 --> 01:21:31,138 Here, try this. 1060 01:21:31,212 --> 01:21:32,441 Sylvia! Wake up! 1061 01:21:32,516 --> 01:21:34,073 Come on, breathe! 1062 01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:37,279 Paula, you go get Andy, baby. He'll know what to do, OK? 1063 01:21:37,354 --> 01:21:38,650 Wake up! Sylvia! 1064 01:21:38,721 --> 01:21:40,917 She'll be OK. She's just faking. 1065 01:21:40,990 --> 01:21:42,481 Please, Sylvia, breathe! 1066 01:21:42,558 --> 01:21:43,924 She's cold. 1067 01:21:43,994 --> 01:21:45,894 Somebody better call the Police! 1068 01:21:45,962 --> 01:21:47,326 Don't call the Police. 1069 01:21:47,396 --> 01:21:49,162 Go! 1070 01:21:50,802 --> 01:21:53,100 She's not dying! 1071 01:21:53,171 --> 01:21:54,639 Get me more water. 1072 01:21:54,705 --> 01:21:57,401 Babies, come here. 1073 01:21:59,912 --> 01:22:02,072 She's lyin', baby. She's just... 1074 01:22:02,146 --> 01:22:04,342 Mama, she's not faking it! 1075 01:22:14,027 --> 01:22:17,589 I need the Police. Yeah, there may be a dead girl at a house. 1076 01:22:26,306 --> 01:22:28,138 She's dead. 1077 01:22:28,209 --> 01:22:29,677 Jesus, Gertie. 1078 01:22:39,589 --> 01:22:41,180 What's the problem? 1079 01:22:41,257 --> 01:22:43,782 Get me out of here and I'll tell you everything. 1080 01:22:49,299 --> 01:22:54,031 Jennie, did you ever see Sylvia do anything to Mrs. Baniszewski? 1081 01:22:56,374 --> 01:22:58,739 No, I didn't see her do anything. 1082 01:23:00,412 --> 01:23:03,244 Did you ever see her do anything to Paula? 1083 01:23:03,313 --> 01:23:05,805 No. 1084 01:23:05,884 --> 01:23:08,785 Did you ever see her do anything to Johnny Baniszewski? 1085 01:23:13,393 --> 01:23:14,881 Jennie, 1086 01:23:16,328 --> 01:23:19,228 you saw your sister being hit, 1087 01:23:19,297 --> 01:23:21,493 beaten, struck. 1088 01:23:21,568 --> 01:23:25,025 Why did you not call the Police? 1089 01:23:25,105 --> 01:23:29,064 Well, Gertie threatened me that if I told anybody, 1090 01:23:29,143 --> 01:23:32,635 I'd get the same treatment Sylvia was getting. 1091 01:23:32,713 --> 01:23:35,238 You could've told anyone up and down that street. 1092 01:23:36,417 --> 01:23:40,980 I was scared. And I guess I just... 1093 01:23:41,055 --> 01:23:44,184 did what she told me, and I wish I hadn't. 1094 01:23:49,765 --> 01:23:51,859 Did you ever see Sylvia cry? 1095 01:23:59,141 --> 01:24:04,079 They said she didn't have no feelings, but I knew better. 1096 01:24:06,383 --> 01:24:08,874 I'd seen her cry before. 1097 01:24:10,621 --> 01:24:15,059 But I imagine the reason why she didn't cry 1098 01:24:15,126 --> 01:24:18,062 was because she didn't have enough water. 1099 01:24:20,765 --> 01:24:23,257 The trial lasted 24 days. 1100 01:24:23,336 --> 01:24:26,794 Gertrude was the last one to take the stand. 1101 01:24:26,871 --> 01:24:32,333 What was your physical condition in July and August of last year? 1102 01:24:35,147 --> 01:24:38,345 Pretty run down, physically. 1103 01:24:38,418 --> 01:24:40,510 Pretty upset mentally and emotionally. 1104 01:24:40,587 --> 01:24:42,179 What do you mean? 1105 01:24:44,025 --> 01:24:47,289 If you have as many children 1106 01:24:47,361 --> 01:24:51,389 around your home all the time as I did, 1107 01:24:52,433 --> 01:24:54,526 arguing and carrying on, 1108 01:24:54,602 --> 01:24:57,868 you'd be pretty upset mentally and emotionally, too. 1109 01:24:57,940 --> 01:25:00,238 What medicine did you take? 1110 01:25:00,309 --> 01:25:03,870 Phenobarbital sulfate and... Coricidin. 1111 01:25:03,946 --> 01:25:06,813 I was trying to take care of myself 1112 01:25:06,883 --> 01:25:10,319 because I could not afford to go to a doctor. 1113 01:25:10,388 --> 01:25:14,847 Now then, getting to the first week of September, 1114 01:25:14,925 --> 01:25:17,951 was there any change in your physical condition 1115 01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:20,122 or in the condition of that house? 1116 01:25:23,935 --> 01:25:25,868 No, sir. 1117 01:25:25,936 --> 01:25:28,022 What about the third week of September? 1118 01:25:28,046 --> 01:25:29,192 Do you remember that? 1119 01:25:29,242 --> 01:25:32,210 You mean anything specific that might happen in September? 1120 01:25:32,277 --> 01:25:34,576 Yes. Anything specific. 1121 01:25:34,647 --> 01:25:36,705 The kids were fighting a lot. 1122 01:25:36,783 --> 01:25:38,580 The kids were fighting a lot? 1123 01:25:39,852 --> 01:25:42,446 My children and the neighbor children 1124 01:25:42,522 --> 01:25:44,990 were coming in and fighting Sylvia. 1125 01:25:45,059 --> 01:25:49,927 My children fighting other children, so on, so forth. 1126 01:25:49,996 --> 01:25:52,227 What did you do when they were fighting? 1127 01:25:54,601 --> 01:25:56,035 I did not see this fighting. 1128 01:25:56,104 --> 01:26:00,768 I... was barely able to stay up at all. 1129 01:26:00,842 --> 01:26:05,176 I did not even feel like getting up. 1130 01:26:05,247 --> 01:26:09,514 Did you have any knowledge of any mistreatment going on towards Sylvia? 1131 01:26:11,822 --> 01:26:13,788 No, sir. 1132 01:26:13,856 --> 01:26:17,953 Did you commit any indignity? Make any marks on that girl's body? 1133 01:26:19,796 --> 01:26:21,764 No, sir. 1134 01:26:21,833 --> 01:26:24,267 Do you know how those wounds got on her body? 1135 01:26:24,335 --> 01:26:26,394 No, sir. 1136 01:26:26,471 --> 01:26:29,305 You're telling the jury that you don't know who did it? 1137 01:26:31,709 --> 01:26:33,301 No. 1138 01:26:35,647 --> 01:26:37,637 Did you hear the testimony of Jennie? 1139 01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:40,212 Yes, I did. 1140 01:26:40,285 --> 01:26:42,720 Did you hear some of your children state 1141 01:26:42,788 --> 01:26:46,281 that before Sylvia died, you started branding this girl? 1142 01:26:48,828 --> 01:26:50,729 Yes, I heard that. 1143 01:26:50,799 --> 01:26:53,232 Did they all lie? 1144 01:26:59,607 --> 01:27:01,471 That is right. 1145 01:27:01,541 --> 01:27:04,010 The fact is you're lying, isn't it? 1146 01:27:05,614 --> 01:27:07,514 No, sir. 1147 01:27:10,584 --> 01:27:12,917 Did you hear John Baniszewski state 1148 01:27:12,988 --> 01:27:16,948 that you burned her with matches and cigarettes? 1149 01:27:19,062 --> 01:27:20,892 Yes, I heard that statement. 1150 01:27:20,964 --> 01:27:22,954 Did he tell the truth? 1151 01:27:28,037 --> 01:27:30,633 He is not telling the truth. 1152 01:27:30,708 --> 01:27:32,367 No. 1153 01:27:34,813 --> 01:27:37,714 You're saying you did not do it. 1154 01:27:37,781 --> 01:27:39,248 That's right. 1155 01:27:39,316 --> 01:27:41,252 You were in bed a great deal of the time 1156 01:27:41,319 --> 01:27:44,685 and the children were doing things you did not know they were doing. 1157 01:27:44,755 --> 01:27:48,625 I imagine they were doing a great deal of things that I did not know. 1158 01:27:48,693 --> 01:27:50,524 Why did John lie? 1159 01:27:52,799 --> 01:27:55,528 I imagine that he is a pretty scared little boy. 1160 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,365 Are you scared? 1161 01:28:00,172 --> 01:28:03,438 I have been scared about a lot of things for a long time. 1162 01:28:05,145 --> 01:28:08,638 She sacrificed me to protect her children 1163 01:28:08,716 --> 01:28:11,480 and sacrificed them to protect herself. 1164 01:28:34,077 --> 01:28:36,774 Will the defendant please rise. 1165 01:28:48,894 --> 01:28:52,092 "We, the jury, find Gertrude Baniszewski 1166 01:28:52,164 --> 01:28:54,394 "guilty of first-degree murder, 1167 01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:56,866 sentencing her to life in prison." 1168 01:29:06,313 --> 01:29:08,372 The case got a lot of attention. 1169 01:29:10,350 --> 01:29:12,614 Even made Time magazine. 1170 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,456 At least people started talking about things they used to ignore. 1171 01:29:24,231 --> 01:29:25,392 Thank you. 1172 01:29:25,466 --> 01:29:27,765 The others were tried later. 1173 01:29:27,835 --> 01:29:31,864 Paula was found guilty as an accomplice and served a couple of years. 1174 01:29:31,941 --> 01:29:35,433 She had that baby. And named it Gertrude. 1175 01:29:35,511 --> 01:29:38,140 Johnny was convicted, too. 1176 01:29:38,214 --> 01:29:39,875 He became the youngest inmate 1177 01:29:39,950 --> 01:29:42,919 in the history of the Indiana State Reformatory. 1178 01:29:42,986 --> 01:29:45,547 He went on to become a lay minister. 1179 01:29:45,623 --> 01:29:48,251 A way to tell his story, I guess. 1180 01:29:48,326 --> 01:29:50,624 Ricky Hobbs was found guilty of manslaughter 1181 01:29:50,695 --> 01:29:53,960 and he served time in the reformatory. 1182 01:29:54,031 --> 01:29:58,025 He died at age 21 of lung cancer. 1183 01:29:59,305 --> 01:30:02,034 Coy also served a couple years. 1184 01:30:02,107 --> 01:30:07,010 He went on to a life of crime and was in and out of prison. 1185 01:30:07,079 --> 01:30:09,877 I don't know what happened to any of the rest of them. 1186 01:30:11,352 --> 01:30:13,183 Mama and Daddy went back on the road 1187 01:30:13,252 --> 01:30:16,450 and they left Jennie with the District Attorney and his family. 1188 01:30:16,523 --> 01:30:18,684 They helped her get back on her feet. 1189 01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:25,097 Gertrude served 20 years of that sentence. 1190 01:30:25,166 --> 01:30:28,601 She was released on parole in 1985. 1191 01:30:30,205 --> 01:30:33,299 Before she died, five years later, 1192 01:30:33,376 --> 01:30:36,810 she took responsibility for everything that had happened. 1193 01:30:51,327 --> 01:30:53,193 Sorry. 1194 01:31:04,142 --> 01:31:05,803 And me 1195 01:31:07,845 --> 01:31:10,144 I returned to the carnival. 1196 01:31:11,450 --> 01:31:13,883 The one place I always felt safe. 1197 01:31:17,322 --> 01:31:19,620 Reverend Bill used to say, 1198 01:31:19,692 --> 01:31:23,220 "With every situation, God always has a plan." 1199 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,629 I guess I'm still trying to figure out what that plan was. 1200 01:31:46,452 --> 01:31:49,952 Sub source used: Anonymous Adaptation: miclar1