There was just nothing to explain it... nothing.
It was just very, very scary.
NARRATOR: You are about to see real people...
This is not normal.
NARRATOR: ...Reliving horrifying paranormal encounters
for the first time...
And it would keep coming, creeping up my leg.
Never in a million years did I think
that it would happen in my home.
I buried this for nearly 30 years.
NARRATOR: Be prepared to be afraid.
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MAN: Seika's interview.
NARRATOR: After years of dating,
Seika Groves and her boyfriend, Dave,
were starting their life together
in Dave's parents' basement.
[ SQUEALS, LAUGHS ]
SEIKA: We went to visit the antique store
to pick up something special... Something that we thought
would be our own... everybody else had given us things,
so we really wanted to get something that we thought
was unique and sort of said who we were.
When I first saw the wash stand,
it just stood out because it was a classic, probably about 1870s,
victorian wash stand,
but it was just really unique
and really different and we fell in love with it.
NARRATOR: Little did Seika know that the wash stand had brought
something else along with it into her home...
Something a lot less welcome.
At first, it was just lights going off
and... or cupboard doors opening...
Those kinds of things that you sort of think,
maybe somebody left the light on or left the cupboard door open.
[ EERIE WHISPERING ]
But then you start to wonder,
because you're the only one home.
But I didn't say anything at the time,
'cause I thought maybe they're gonna think I was crazy.
I just remember going into the kitchen
and there was this huge ripping sound.
[ RIPPING ]
And it just sounded like a huge piece of fabric being torn,
but really violently torn.
[ RIPPING ]
And there was nobody home. I was the only one there.
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]
NARRATOR: Other odd things began to happen.
One night, Seika had friends over for dinner.
We were sitting at the table in the kitchen
and the coffee maker just shifted out into
the middle of the table and then back against the wall.
And then it did it a second time, and we all were, you know,
just sort of jumped up and was like, "Oh, god",
what's going on?" Like, "What's happening to us?"
NARRATOR: Eventually, Seika and Dave married.
They moved into a new house and had a baby boy.
But this was no home sweet home.
Something evil had moved in, too...
And soon, Seika and Dave were turning on each other.
I am done! We are over!
[ DOOR SLAMS ]
The marriage over, Seika moved into her own place
with her young son, but she took the wash stand, too.
It was...
A bad decision.
There's a conception that spirits can only attach to
a location, where, in fact, they can attach themselves to
a person, a place, or a thing,
but, to them, it's something important...
Something that connects them back to the world of the living.
If it's an angry spirit,
it can just start wreaking havoc throughout the house.
SEIKA: This house was when a lot of activity started,
a lot more than... Than what we had had previously.
NARRATOR: For example, Seika's son, now five,
had a new playmate that no one could see.
SEIKA: By this time, my son had given him a name.
I'd go upstairs and he'd be in his room talking,
and I'd be like, "Who're you talking to?"
And he'd go, "Oh, it's Lenny, mom."
Like it was nothing.
NARRATOR: Was it just an imaginary friend...
Or something else?
And then he'd go, "Don't you see him?
He's wearing a white shirt and black pants."
And I'm like, "No, I don't see him."
So what I did say to him is I'm like, "Don't talk to him."
Don't talk to him.
Just, you know, if he comes and bothers you,
"You come and tell me."
♪♪
I had bought my son this Teddy bear that could tell stories.
You put a little cassette tape in and it would tell stories.
♪♪
And there was a couple of times where the bear
just started going off, like talking,
and the tape would start to play.
[ TAPE WHIRRS ]
[ MUSIC PLAYS, WARBLES ]
[ MENACING LAUGHTER ]
Mom!
It was like the tape would go... [WARBLES]
And it would go slow and then it would speed up.
[ DISTORTED PLAYBACK ]
[ CLICK, MUSIC STOPS ]
And I thought maybe it's being worn, it's breaking,
so I just took the batteries out of the bear.
And it came on.
[ TAPE WHIRRS, CLICKS ]
[ MUSIC PLAYS, WARBLES ]
Even without the batteries in it, the bear came on.
[ DISTORTED MUSIC PLAYING ]
Let's go.
I didn't want anything interfering with my child.
Right? I mean, I'm a mom.
BOY: Mom!
NARRATOR: This presence, whatever it was,
interfered with Seika, too.
Turns out, it had something of a jealous streak.
When I started to date again,
any time a new guy would come over to the house,
um, things would start to happen.
♪♪
NARRATOR: Seika groves had tried to escape
the paranormal activity that plagued here
by moving to a new house,
but she brought her beloved wash stand
and trouble moved in right along with her.
Any time a new guy would come over to the house,
um, things would start to happen.
[ INDISTINCT AUDIO FROM TELEVISION ]
What the hell?
They would say, "Something's touching me.
Something's poking me."
♪♪
There was a point where I felt comfortable with the guy
that I was seeing staying over.
The first night that he stayed over,
it was maybe 4:00 in the morning
and I could hear a little toy cellphone that my son had
going off in the hallway.
[ FANFARE PLAYS ]
And so I got up.
I got up out of bed to see if my son was up.
[ FANFARE CONTINUES PLAYING ]
[ FANFARE STOPS ]
And there wasn't anything there.
The noise stopped as soon as I opened the bedroom door.
I mean, my son was fast asleep in his bed.
I headed back to the bedroom, and when I walked into the room,
it was dark, but I could see that my boyfriend was
just lying stiff in the bed...
And staring at the ceiling, and he was shaking.
And I was like, "What's wrong with you?"
What's the matter?
[ CREAKING ]
And he's like, "It's sitting on the bed."
It's sitting on the bed. It's sitting on the bed.
It's sitting on the bed." And he was petrified.
Something on the end of the bed.
What?
He was so scared, he got up and he left.
Honey, where are you going?
He just, you know, up and left.
It was 4:30 in the morning and he wouldn't stay.
Where are you going?
Oh, I was mad.
I mean, I was angry just because of what had happened, right?
And I was really mad and I was like, "Why are you doing this?"
Stop doing this,"You know. "You're ruining my life."
I think that was really the crux of when I felt like,
"I have to do something."
My boyfriend's mother had suggested that
we bring somebody in that could do feng shui.
You know, she sort of said, "Maybe you have bad energy flow"
in the house and there's thing that they can help you realign
and realign the energy.
And if there's be things there,
"They can, you know, make them leave."
And I'm thinking, "Okay, it sounds crazy enough"
that it just might work."
This... this...
NARRATOR: The feng shui expert
immediately zeroed in on the wash stand.
And she says, "You're a magnet. You attract them."
And I was like, "What?"
You know, "What are you talking about?"
I didn't attract any..." she says, "That's why it's here.
It might've come with the furniture,
"but it's here because of you."
The best way to remove a spirit from a house...
When you're dealing with an object,
maybe an antique that you had purchased somewhere,
it would be a good idea to get rid of that antique.
Not to give to someone else that you don't like,
but to get rid of the object altogether.
And that way, you're getting rid of the attachment
to that object, whether you bury it, some people want to burn it,
but just get rid of it altogether.
It's just a better way to do it.
What are we gonna read today? What are you gonna read to me?
NARRATOR: Only then did things get back to normal.
It just says a horse...
SEIKA: My son wasn't seeing him anymore,
and things just weren't happening.
For me, mentally, it made a big difference.
NARRATOR: Not every spirit is so easy to dispose of.
Some entities even go viral,
infecting one person after another,
leaving terror and havoc in their wake.
I've always had an interest in the paranormal, but, you know,
I never, ever thought that I'd ever experience one.
NARRATOR: It started as an ordinary day.
Susan Hayes was having coffee at her friend's house.
Someone, or something, decided to join them, too.
I could sense this entity,
and it would start out like a coldness
in the bottom of my foot,
like actually like it was entering my body,
and it would keep coming, creeping up my leg,
and I would just close my eyes and recite the lord's prayer
over and over again... "Our father, who art in heaven"...
I kept redoing it and it would just kind of go away again.
Are you okay?
NARRATOR: Sue's friend told her that she, too,
was having weird sensations.
They began as soon as she brought in a mutual acquaintance
to rent a room.
SUSAN: There was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks.
She was in between residences
and she had went in there one night and heard her chanting.
[ WOMAN CHANTING IN UNKNOWN LANGUAGE ]
NARRATOR: Susan Hayes had experienced strange sensations
while at her friend's house,
but that wasn't the only weird thing going on there.
There was a girl that they let stay for a few weeks.
She was in between residences
and she had went in there one night and heard her chanting.
[ WOMAN CHANTING IN UNKNOWN LANGUAGE ]
She peeked in the room
and she was doing some type of a ritual on the floor.
[ CHANTING CONTINUES ]
[ CONTINUES CHANTING ]
Then she just suddenly moved out about a few weeks later.
When you're dealing with ceremony and rituals,
depending on the intention of that ceremony,
if your intention is to be ill-willed
or to just open a door to anything,
you can invite anything into the house, even evil spirits.
And most likely the people
you don't want to come into that room.
NARRATOR: Sue and her friend decided to cleanse the house...
[ RECITING SCRIPTURE ]
...but they really should have left it to the experts.
We just kind of went online to try to find out
what we should do,
so we just kind of tried to handle it ourselves initially,
but, you know, it was honestly a big mistake.
So as soon as we started reading the Bible and smudging,
a little wooden case just slid right across the front of us.
[ BOTH SCREAM ]
BOTH: Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come...
Needless to say, we kind of screamed and ran out the door.
It terrified us quite a bit.
I knew that she had summoned something into their home,
and they had only tried to help her, so I was very upset.
About two weeks after,
my friend's family just decided to move.
They just had had enough
and they decided not to try to fight it.
I was just in my room, just relaxing, watching TV,
and, all of a sudden, I felt that cold, horrible,
evil sensation again that I felt over at my friend's house.
Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
And I immediately knew it was there.
I just knew, and I was terrified.
NARRATOR: It seemed that the entity
had found a new victim in sue.
It decided to have a little fun with her.
There would be scratching in the walls you could hear.
Another time, I could hear crashing up in the attic.
So it would just do anything it could
just to disturb you in the middle of the night.
[ STATIC CRACKLES ]
[ STATIC STOPS ]
[ STATIC CRACKLES, SUSAN SCREAMS ]
MAN [ON TELEVISION]: "Little Jack horner
sat in the corner and said 'what a good boy am I.'"
it was antagonizing me so badly
that I honestly thought I was gonna lose my mind.
I had just boughten the house, so I was not going to move out,
so I just, you know,
I was determined to get rid of this thing.
Stop it!
NARRATOR: It was time to call in an expert.
Sue contacted paranormal investigator
Michelle desrochers.
DESROCHERS: When sue sent me an e-mail,
I immediately felt drawn to her.
Right off the bat, I could feel the desperation in it.
SUSAN: When I reached out to Michelle, you know,
I just gave her a vague message...
"I think we have a ghost problem."
Hi. Hi, sue.
NARRATOR: Michelle brought along a psychic
to help with the investigation.
Nice to see you. This is Tyler.
Hi, nice to meet you, Tyler.
Tyler... he walked into my house and my cat went right to him,
which was unusual in itself,
because my cat always hid from company.
[ CAT MEOWS ]
It's meowing at him, like, "Meow, meow,"
and he starts answering it.
He's like, "Oh, thank you. Thank you."
And I'm like looking, like, "What?"
[ CAT PURRS ]
He says, "Oh, I can communicate with animals."
[ CAT MEOWS ]
And then the cat kept beckoning Tyler to follow.
[ CAT MEOWS ]
And, you know, you're just like, "What?"
And the cat showed him where the same woman
who had done the ritual at the other house
had hidden things in my home as well.
NARRATOR: It seems this person left
several of Satan's calling cards.
SUSAN: We found small pieces of mirror throughout the house,
which, I guess, I found afterwards, can act as a portal
or a, you know, an entry place into my home.
We had found jars of urine
hidden up in the rafters as well.
From what I gather, that was a way that she could
kind of hold claim to my home.
A lot of that has to do more with the occult,
you know, working around the black arts.
They will leave things like that on the premises
and they will take something out of the home.
It's like an exchange almost.
NARRATOR: Terrified, sue pleads with them to cleanse the house.
He basically did a smudging ceremony, you know,
where he would come in with just a big Sage smudge stick.
NARRATOR: Michelle and Tyler
hadn't prepared for a full cleansing
and would need to come back.
So Michelle gave sue some tips
for how to keep this spirit at bay until she returned.
Michelle instructed me to just to be very diligent.
Try to smudge daily.
She gave me some exercises to do like salt baths,
stuff like that, so that it personally couldn't infest me,
because it certainly did try all the time.
And we taught her basically
how to kind of keep her environment calm.
NARRATOR: But what Michelle didn't know when she left
was that this virus from hell had attached to her
and was about to infect her family.
Mom!
NARRATOR: Paranormal investigator Michelle desrochers
had taken the first steps toward ridding sue Hayes' home
of sinister forces.
Problem was, those same forces had come to roost
in Michelle's home as well.
♪♪
I was 14 years old
when she started doing the investigations.
I didn't believe in much of anything
until things started happening to me.
Mom!
I could hear her calling my name.
I can't see!
I went over to her room and I said, "What's wrong?"
She goes, "I can't see."
I'm like, "What do you mean you can't see?"
She goes, "I can't see."
Mom, come here! I can't see!
[ SNIFFLES ]
What's going on? I can't see, mom.
Nothing? Mom, I can't see anything.
Like, I couldn't make out shapes.
I couldn't make out anything other than the fact that
I could tell, you know, the sun was out.
I could tell that it was a little bit lighter
of a darkness than, you know, complete pitch black.
Okay. Okay. All right.
It really isn't uncommon
for a medium who has cast out an evil spirit
to have that evil spirit come back in some way or form
and try to get revenge.
Brought her in, and he's like, "Her eyes look healthy."
I don't even know what to say,
"But let's get all the tests done and let's see what's going on."
They took pictures of the inside of her eyes.
Everything was healthy.
We even had her see a psychologist,
so we explored everything... Mental, physical...
Nobody had any answers for us.
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
NARRATOR: Unable to find a medical cause,
Michelle's doctor suggested something not found in
any medical textbook.
He said, "I'm just gonna throw this out there."
Could you maybe have worked on something recently
"that might have caused this?"
I have been working professionally
with the paranormal probably for the last, I would say, 12 years.
Never in a million years
did I think that it would happen in my home.
NARRATOR: Michelle quickly organized a seance at her home.
It was the same being.
We were set to go back
and we were gonna finish the job.
[ CHANTING ]
And I basically, I said, "Did you do this?"
Did you do this?
Did you take my daughter's sight?
[ DEMONIC LAUGHTER ]
All it said was, "Stay away."
I said, "fix this... And I'll stay away."
I won't go back."
If you leave her alone,
I'll leave you alone!
NARRATOR: Michelle wanted a deal with the devilish spirit.
Bring back her daughter's sight
and she would never return to sue's house
to finish her cleanse.
It's done.
I gave my eyes a good rub
and it was like it was never a problem in the first place.
It was the weirdest, strangest thing.
It just came back.
I was like, "Mom, my eyes... They're working."
I can see."
Mom! I can see!
And I stayed true to my word and never returned.
Never returned.
NARRATOR: And Susan Hayes learned to manage
her uninvited house guest
using the techniques Michelle taught her.
She's kept the evil at bay ever since.
Most spirits do arrive uninvited...
But Tammy deans' obsession with the other world
seemed to give them permission to come knocking.
TAMMY: I was living in sault ste. Marie,
and it was downtown.
I was living with my daughter
and I had a lot of overnight guests during this time.
NARRATOR: Tammy and her friends
began fooling around with a spirit board.
TAMMY: I don't even remember where we got it from,
but we started out with just a regular board
that you can buy.
I was always interested in that kind of thing,
and it intrigued me.
I wanted to know if it worked.
There were four of us that played on a regular basis.
But I didn't realize how serious it could become.
We thought it was just a game.
It started out with just dead grandparents, things like that.
[ GIGGLES ]
We wanted more out of it, so we started asking for things
like Elvis and graduated from there
to asking for the devil.
We... if it was dead, we asked for it.
NARRATOR: Tammy asked for it, all right.
Soon enough, the group began to get more than messages.
It was giving us yes and no answers to our questions,
and from there it just kept telling us a story,
and as we got into it more,
we started taking notes so that we could, you know,
keep track of what was being told.
Who are you?
We asked for, you know, the certain spirit to come in.
What do you want from us?
You would see the candles going out...
[ WIND GUSTING ]
...or making weird smoke patterns, I guess.
I was scared, yes.
That was when I didn't understand what was going on.
Everything seemed to just be different in the air,
and it's not so much that you could see it.
It was the fact that you could feel where it was.
We would hear a lot of knocking noises.
We would hear growls continuously.
[ KNOCKING ]
[ GROWLING ]
NARRATOR: Tammy deans and her friends
had been using a spirit board to speak with the dead,
but when the dead started talking back,
they should have ended the conversation.
TAMMY: We would hear a lot of knocking noises.
We would hear growls continuously.
[ KNOCKING ]
[ GROWLING ]
I just could feel my skin crawl
and my hair stand on the back of my neck.
[ GROWLING, WHISPERING ]
The shadow figures were there pretty much nightly.
They would come and go.
At least one, sometimes two or three, and they were huge.
It wasn't necessarily a human form.
We would all be sitting at the table
and there's nobody else in the apartment with us
except the baby in the crib way in the other room,
but this figure would move
where we knew we weren't moving
so that we knew that we weren't making it.
At first, it was nonbelief
that we were seeing the shadow figures.
It really... everybody was kind of looking at each other,
looking for an explanation.
The excitement was really high, but it was also very fearful.
In the wrong hands, a spirit board can bring up
anything you don't want.
When you have a negative entity that comes through
and you have an open invitation to that negative entity,
that's who's gonna come through and not always a loved one.
NARRATOR: The paranormal activity was taking a toll.
TAMMY: Once we were done playing the spirit board,
I had to go back to my regular life for the next few hours
and it was very hard to ignore the fact that there was
all this activity going on in the home that I was living in.
[ WHOOSHING ]
But my obsession took over.
We weren't into drugs or alcohol.
It was... This was our obsession,
this was our addiction.
There was one particular night...
And it's still unbelievable.
My friend that was playing with us,
she was sleeping on the floor.
And she started dreaming and flailing around.
We were trying to wake her up
and she started literally talking in
what I believe to be tongues.
[ SPEAKING IN TONGUES ]
At least 10, maybe even 15 minutes
it took for her to finally come around,
and when she woke up, her eyes were bloodshot
and she didn't remember anything about the dream
or us trying to wake her up.
[ GASPS ]
I really thought that she may have been possessed
at some point... It definitely scared all of us.
[ BREATHING HEAVILY ]
Once you have opened that door with the spirit board,
there can be a lot of horrible consequences.
The spirits can become dangerous,
and there are even many cases of possession as a result.
Using a spirit board is just inviting all kinds
of trouble you do not need.
NARRATOR: Still, Tammy and her friends couldn't resist
using the spirit board, and it was just a matter of time
before their hobby came back to haunt them.
We were looking in the window,
or out the window, and you could see them outside.
Two different spirits were dueling, I guess you could say.
[ METAL CLANGING ]
It's still unbelievable when I talk about it.
It was very frightening.
We couldn't believe it... We couldn't believe it.
It was one thing to see them in the apartment,
but to know that they can go outside
actually scared me even more.
NARRATOR: Tammy was afraid they had gone too far...
But demons turned out to be the least of Tammy's problems.
Evil forces started to take over the thing most precious to her.
Billie?
NARRATOR: Tammy deans and her friends' obsession with
the spirit board had invited paranormal entities
into her home.
One night, Tammy woke up to find her daughter Billie
acting strangely.
Billie?
I went to go into her crib to lift her up
and her eyes scared the living daylights out of me.
E-everything okay?
[ DEMONIC WHOOSHING ]
Knowing that, as a mother,
I'm supposed to be picking her up and taking care of her,
but I'm so afraid by the look on her face
and how she was staring at me with black eyes.
It was very scary
to know that something else could control me as a mother,
where I didn't feel like I could protect her.
Knowing that we were playing with such evil things...
I was very worried that something would happen to her.
I do believe that we released something,
but the story needs to be told,
'cause there's other people out there
that are just as young and innocent and maybe stupid,
if you want to call it, as we were.
I'm hoping that through me, they can learn the lesson.
NARRATOR: The next morning, Tammy moved out
and cut all ties with the group.
TAMMY: Though we all live in the same city,
none of us talk anymore.
We don't want to have anything to do with each other anymore.
NARRATOR: She vowed never to touch a spirit board again,
and the paranormal activity came to an end.
If you're going to do it, have great respect.
Don't play with it.