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>> It's sayin' that you're real
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and you're not, you're a fraud.
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>> I'm definitely that real,
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but--
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>> Say it to me.
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>> I told you to your face.
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>> Put that energy out there,
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that's what you're gonna get
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>> My heart's racing a little
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bit.
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>> You just learned how to sew.
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>> Because all of a sudden it's
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like...
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And I have a gown!
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>> I don't feel bad.
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After the Runway 1x02
Let's Hear It for the Girls
Original Air Date on October 6, 2011
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>> Welcome, everyone, to After
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the Runway.
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I'm your host, Zanna Roberts
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Rassi.
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This is where we will dish with
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the designers about tonight's
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episode, and get to the bottom
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of some unresolved issues.
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Hi, everyone, how are we all?
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Are we good?
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That was quite the episode.
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High drama.
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>> It was very high--
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>> I really felt for you all
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throughout that whole thing, and
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obviously it was really special
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because it was the finale, the
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last runway, and then you found
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out who is moving forward.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Josh, Anya, Viktor, Kimberly.
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>> Thank you.
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>> I'm sorry!
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>> I'm sorry, I'm like, "oh, can
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they not all go through?"
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>> No, that's okay.
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>> Oh!
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How do you feel about the whole
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>> Um, you know, I mean, like I
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said in the episode, it was a
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great experience...
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>> Mm-hmm.
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>> And I only think that all of
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us will be strengthened by it,
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regardless of what--
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>> In what way?
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>> Strengthened as a designer.
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I mean, it tests your aesthetic.
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you've got to be certain.
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>> Mm-hmm.
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>> Do you think you should have
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been eliminated?
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>> I mean, hell--okay, um, being
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honest, because I'm an honest
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person, I do feel that Kim
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should have gone over me.
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I don't think that what she
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presented was as strong, as far
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as aesthetic, or technically.
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>> Kimberly, how do you feel
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about that?
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>> Um, I think she's entitled to
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her opinion.
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It's just the opinions that came
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behind the scenes and not
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directly to me.
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here sayin' that she's so real
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and honest, but yet there were a
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lot of things said behind the
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scenes that weren't--
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>> It was this episode where,
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and a third," whereas, she never
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>> And it's like, if you're that
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real, say it to me.
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>> I'm definitely that real, but
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there was no reason for me to
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interject my opinion on your
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clothes.
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>> Your claim in this whole
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thing was that, "Oh, I'm real, I
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keep--I'm honest," and stuff
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like that, and you were saying
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back at the apartment that, you
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know, I don't say anything about
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you guys behind--you know, to
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the camera, behind closed doors,
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but yet you were, the entire
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season.
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absolutely.
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>> No, not just this episode.
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>> I think that Kim's stuff is
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really confusing.
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they have goiters growing out of
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her legs, so I don't get that.
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plastic fabric.
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stuff, with a washcloth?
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I think it's Kimberly, and I
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think Cecelia are in the bottom,
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for sure.
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>> Well, don't you think
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Kimberly has a chance of being
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in the top, perhaps?
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>> No, no, I can't see Nina in
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that at all, honestly, I'm like,
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"whoa."
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>> It was the Nina episode, it
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was the sheep--
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>> I told you to your face, and
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you know that, I did.
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>> You said to me, you said--
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>> No, I told you to your face.
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the Nina challenge was, "Oh, I
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"just said that I didn't think
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Nina would wear a gold top."
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that was said and was shown on
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tv and behind-the-scenes stuff.
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believe that Nina picked yours.
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I said it to you, I did.
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>> I'm not--but that's not the
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only time, it's not only the
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Nina challenge, it was the real
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woman challenge.
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know how to design for real
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women, the list goes on and on.
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sensitive.
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>> Well, yeah, because it's not
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about your opinion about my
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stuff, because I don't--
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>> You clearly care quite a bit.
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that you're real, and you're
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not, you're a fraud.
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on Laura for things that--
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>> We all have had moments where
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we might have said something
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that we didn't mean to say, or
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we might have said that we had
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some kind of loyalty, and maybe
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it wasn't 100%, it's just human
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nature.
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>> I've never said anything
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about the two of you to the
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>> Yeah, but is that really
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genuine, though?
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>> I'm just sayin' that if--
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whatever you felt, you should
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have just said it to me, 'cause
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>> If I was ever--
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>> She's go it, all right.
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>> If I was ever asked to say
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it.
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>> Quit!
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>> All right, guys.
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>> Yeah, and it was like a
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professional intense situation.
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It was just great.
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>> Well, that's it.
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I mean, speaking of
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professionals, you obviously
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had, you know, Nina talking to
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you a lot, and we heard...
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>> You know, Tim tell you that
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Nina had questioned your taste
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level.
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>> I'm not saying this either to
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be mean or to hurt your
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feelings.
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>> Mm-hmm.
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>> Nina has this thing about
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you, and she has her radar up
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when she sees your work.
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>> I know.
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>> I just want you to know that
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she gets bristly about your
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taste level.
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>> If Nina says no, there's no
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way I can push past that.
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>> Now, how do you feel about
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>> I think that Nina did have it
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I could tell from the initial
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casting, before Tim even said
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anything I go, "Nina doesn't
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like me."
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paranoid.
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I really didn't understand where
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it was coming from, but she
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just, she just knew, it was
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instinct.
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>> I could see it, I could just
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see it.
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I was like, "Okay, she can be,
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if anything, more tough on me--"
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>> Mm-hmm.
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>> And that'll only make me
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better.
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>> I work with Nina on a daily
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basis, and, uh, she has
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impeccable taste...
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>> Sure.
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>> And if she says, "it's a
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problem," it means you have a
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problem, be scared, be nervous.
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You know, and she does know what
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she's talking about, beyond--
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>> Sure.
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>> And I think you were right to
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say, "this is what it's about,
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and I have to please them."
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>> Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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>> You all had help anyway on
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this challenge from your
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fabulous assistants.
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Well, let's bring two of those
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very able assistants back out.
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>> Oh.
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>> Becky and Olivier, come on
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>> Hi!
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>> Come on.
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Hello!
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>> You guys, I'm gonna go
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straight into you two.
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How was it working back with
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Viktor, then?
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How is is, being on a team with
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him?
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>> Bring it, sister, bring it.
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>> I mean, like, helping
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Viktor--Viktor was very, um, he
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gave me a lot of freedom to do
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what--not really, but like,
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yeah.
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Like, it's easy to work with
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him, and work for him in that
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case.
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>> Becky, you were the first one
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to be picked by Kimberly here.
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>> Yes.
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>> You were obviously
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super-happy about that.
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>> Well, I'd worked with
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Kimberly before, and we'd worked
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really well together, and there
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was good communication, so
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that's exactly what I was hoping
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for.
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>> If it had come to it, would
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you have worked with Joshua?
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>> Well, I wouldn't have had a
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choice.
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That's also very true, however,
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we did hear some strong words
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between the two of you over the
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course of a few episodes.
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>> Ugh.
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>> Indeed.
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>> Let's take a little look.
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>> I don't want to point
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fingers, but I will say that
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Josh did start us off very
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badly.
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>> Who do you think is the
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weakest link?
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>> On this team, it was Becky.
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You know, I just don't see much
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design within the outfit.
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>> I think he wants Bert and I
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to go home, so he can have his
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fun with the rest of you.
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>> Becky, this is not about
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having fun, this is about
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creating a product that people
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are going to want.
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I know what I want to deliver to
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someone, and I feel that you
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don't.
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>> I do.
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>> So that is probably why I
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should be here, and you should
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not be here.
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>> Will you let me design the
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top for the skirt?
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>> Becky, you do dowdy dresses,
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you know that.
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>> Your demographic is like 40
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to death.
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>> Excuse me?
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You told me to make a princess
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seam dress, so you can't blame
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me for the dress being dumpy or
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not cool.
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>> I am not having drama with
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you, Becky, so you can cry and
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do whatever you need to do to
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get over it.
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Becky, if you're tired, take a
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nap, 'cause I don't have time
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for it, I'll do it myself.
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>> Aw.
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>> Oh, I don't want to see you
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cry!
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>> And I'm sure it's not fun to
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relive or watch that again.
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That's okay.
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>> Tell me--
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>> Actually my heart's racing a
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little bit.
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>> Is it?
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>> But you look rested.
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>> Why, because you feel bad?
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Did you take a nap?
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'Cause you look good.
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>> Thank you.
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>> I mean, you know, if we just
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keep living in this bubble of
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this drama, it just isn't gonna
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help our careers or just our
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energy, you know, and I think
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it's all about energy for all of
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us up here, it's like--
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>> But I do want to say, Joshua,
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that when you put bad energy and
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negative energy out there,
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that's what you're gonna get
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back.
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>> I agree with you.
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>> I'm not used to people being
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that hostile to me, or that
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aggressive towards me, and I was
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already not feeling like I had a
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place within the group...
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>> Right.
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>> And that pretty much killed
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it, and I don't think I ever
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recovered, and that's why I went
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home when I did.
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>> That hurts me to hear that.
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>> And I think I'm a lot more
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sensitive than I realize.
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>> Okay, we need to take a
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little break, but we will finish
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this up when we get back.
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>> Welcome back, everyone.
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I'm Zanna Roberts Rassi, and
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I'm here talking about this
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season of Project Runway with
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some of the fabulous designers.
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>> Joshua, what were you
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thinking then?
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>> I did not handle it in the
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best--in the best way, and I
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just would love to put this in a
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little box, hide it in the
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ground, and let it just dissolve
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into the earth, into something
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new, you know?
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>> Put a little, pink bow on it,
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maybe.
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>> I'm good with that.
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>> And I--I just hope you know,
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chances are I'm completely more
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insecure than you are, I just
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can hide it better at certain
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points.
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>> Wow.
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Wow, okay.
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>> You know, I'm a softie.
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>> I believe that.
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>> Well, I'm sorry that you felt
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it necessary to be like that,
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you know?
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>> It was for that cha--
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>> It's sad.
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>> I wanted us to win, and we
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ultimately won, that's not only
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my dress, it's her dress, and
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your dress, so--
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>> Yeah.
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>> Consider yourself part of a
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victory and part of a win.
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>> Okay, it's time for that
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little segment I like to call,
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"Clearing the Air."
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I want to know more about this
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"girl pact."
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We didn't actually see this girl
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pact form, tell--
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>> Mm-hmm, it was behind the
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scenes.
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>> It was in our room.
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>> Tell me, how did it happen?
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>> I think it was when it was,
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you know, when Tim walked in at
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one point and was like, "it's 70
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to 30," percentage-wise, and we
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were like, "oh, my gosh--"
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>> Battle.
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>> And so we said, we've got to
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even the score, and that if we
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felt that anything of the girls
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was not up to par, that we
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needed to say something.
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>> Let's take a quick look.
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>> Oh, no.
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>> What's Kim doing?
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>> The fabric that Kim has
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chosen is not current, there's
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nothing that's really popping
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about it.
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>> Should we talk to her?
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>> I don't think you should,
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number one.
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>> We made a pact.
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>> I don't care if you're
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friends.
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>> We made a pact.
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>> There are three of the girls
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left, and we have made a pact
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that we will be honest when we
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see something of our work going
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off-track.
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If we tell her it's bad, then
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she's not gonna believe in it.
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>> Okay, well, yeah, I mean, I
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think the pact probably wasn't a
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good idea, because there also
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comes a point where like we do
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need to start worrying about
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ourselves.
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>> And we can't all stay till
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the end.
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>> Yeah.
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>> What's up, girls?
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>> What's up?
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>> Hi.
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>> The unsuspecting fool.
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>> Ah, why when you guys both
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thought that Kimberly's designs
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were less than beautiful, didn't
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you tell her?
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>> Well, what if we would have
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said something to her?
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She was safe, so our feelings
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were off, clearly.
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Do you know what I mean?
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>> Mmm.
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>> It's opinion, I mean--
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>> It's opinion.
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>> I mean, at that point, it's
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taste.
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>> She was fine, and, I mean,
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you saw me.
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>> What about the pact, girls?
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What about girl power?
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>> You saw me snap back at
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Viktor, I said, "we had a pact!"
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You know?
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>> Kimberly, what do you think
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about that fact they didn't tell
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you.
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>> I felt like--
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I clearly was the only one that
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didn't know that we weren't
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upholding the pact, and that was
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the only thing, I mean, why--you
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just, like--
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>> Oh, I'm just saying that I
522
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should be blamed for this, I was
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the one that was mostly like,
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"we need to tell her."
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>> No, I'm not blaming anybody,
526
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that's the thing.
527
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>> Like, are you gonna talk
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about--
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>> What I'm saying--
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>> Maybe what we should have
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done, in retrospect, is said,
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"listen, now we're in
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"competition, let's just all be
534
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doing what we're doing."
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00:11:03,425 --> 00:11:04,057
>> Right.
536
00:11:04,093 --> 00:11:04,992
>> That's probably what we
537
00:11:05,027 --> 00:11:05,726
should have done.
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00:11:05,761 --> 00:11:06,860
>> What I'm upset about is that
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I was the only one that did not
540
00:11:08,498 --> 00:11:10,631
know that we weren't upholding--
541
00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:12,033
you know, forget the pact, it
542
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was just, you know, I just--
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>> Just have been honest and
544
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said, "this is over now, let's
545
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just compete."
546
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>> I mean, I just want to say
547
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that I felt sick watching some
548
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of the episodes, like
549
00:11:20,411 --> 00:11:22,177
physically, 'cause I don't like
550
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that I said some of the things
551
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that I said, and I just--I mean,
552
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it's hard to go back and do
553
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anything about it...
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>> Right.
555
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>> But I really do apologize and
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I feel very compassionate to
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everybody for the things that
558
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were said to me, too, you know,
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it just is what it is, it's
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done.
561
00:11:38,362 --> 00:11:39,494
>> I just think you shouldn't--I
562
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mean, you should do whatever you
563
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want, but you shouldn't
564
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apologize for doing what you
565
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felt at that moment, because
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we're human beings, and we all
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explore...
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>> Right, right.
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>> So you know, we learn from
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that, if it wasn't because of
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that, you would not be here
572
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right now.
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>> Well, is there anything else
574
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that's niggling anyone, and they
575
00:11:52,877 --> 00:11:54,309
want to get it out on the table?
576
00:11:54,345 --> 00:11:55,077
Josh?
577
00:11:55,113 --> 00:11:56,946
>> Just, I am learning a lot
578
00:11:56,981 --> 00:11:58,381
about myself as a person through
579
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this whole experience, and
580
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watching it, and, you know, I'm
581
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25 and I'm growing with age, as
582
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a designer, as a human being,
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and I just want people to know
584
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that, you know, I'm learning,
585
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and that's what life's about, is
586
00:12:12,698 --> 00:12:14,364
to learn who you are, and learn
587
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from other people, so this has
588
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been the most amazing learning
589
00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:19,369
experience, as well, you know,
590
00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:20,804
and for situations like this,
591
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that I have to now watch it or
592
00:12:22,741 --> 00:12:23,974
document it, I'm like, "you
593
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can't be doing that."
594
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You know, Becky, I hit on the
595
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fact that she's sensitive, I
596
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want people to know that I am
597
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extremely sensitive...
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>> We know.
599
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>> And a lot of this comes out
600
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as a wall that I throw up, in
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order to defend who I am.
602
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>> Mm-hmm.
603
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>> Because I have been come at
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my whole life.
605
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I've been bullied, so it even
606
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hurts me to hear people calling
607
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me a bully now.
608
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>> Mm-hmm.
609
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>> Because ultimately, I would
610
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never want to do what someone
611
00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,066
has done to me for years, and
612
00:12:50,101 --> 00:12:51,401
that--it's so hurtful to hear
613
00:12:51,436 --> 00:12:52,002
that.
614
00:12:52,037 --> 00:12:53,436
I have apologized to Becky on
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the show, and if that didn't
616
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seem sincere to viewers watching
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it, you know, I hope Becky knows
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within her heart, and I
619
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apologize to you, and I hope
620
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that we can move forward from
621
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this.
622
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>> Becky, do you accept this
623
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apology?
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>> I do.
625
00:13:07,586 --> 00:13:09,419
>> Oh, I'm gonna cry!
626
00:13:10,789 --> 00:13:12,422
Oh, it seems that's really
627
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genuine, as well.
628
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>> Yeah.
629
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>> Okay, there will be much more
630
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of this coming up.
631
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>> Sorry.
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>> Stay with us.
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>> Welcome back to After the
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Runway.
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I'm your host, Zanna Roberts
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Rossi.
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Now designers, we're gonna bring
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out a special guest.
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He's been following you all
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season, and knows a thing or two
641
00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:46,436
about what you've been going
642
00:13:46,471 --> 00:13:47,270
through.
643
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Let's welcome Season Two
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designer, Nick Verreos.
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Hello, baby!
646
00:13:52,711 --> 00:13:54,244
I'm so glad you're here.
647
00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:54,878
How are you?
648
00:13:55,614 --> 00:13:56,980
>> Thank you so much for coming!
649
00:13:57,015 --> 00:13:57,881
>> Oh, thank you, of course.
650
00:13:57,917 --> 00:13:58,682
>> Oh, how exciting.
651
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>> I wouldn't miss this for the
652
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world.
653
00:14:01,187 --> 00:14:02,586
Are you kidding me?
654
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>> It's so--
655
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>> Darlin'.
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>> What did you think of this
657
00:14:05,392 --> 00:14:06,558
season?
658
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>> I really thought it was an
659
00:14:07,528 --> 00:14:08,960
exciting season, I have to say.
660
00:14:08,996 --> 00:14:10,462
I love the show.
661
00:14:10,497 --> 00:14:11,763
I'm part of the brand.
662
00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:12,597
>> The family.
663
00:14:12,633 --> 00:14:13,565
>> Of course, I'm part of the
664
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family, papa Nick.
665
00:14:15,636 --> 00:14:17,269
>> So I love seeing all the
666
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different creative designs, from
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everybody.
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And of course, the drama.
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00:14:20,674 --> 00:14:22,207
So I love, you know, seeing
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00:14:22,243 --> 00:14:23,609
other people go through it.
671
00:14:23,644 --> 00:14:25,310
I don't know if I would go back.
672
00:14:25,346 --> 00:14:26,044
>> It's true.
673
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:26,945
>> Yes.
674
00:14:26,981 --> 00:14:28,947
So I have some questions,
675
00:14:28,983 --> 00:14:29,615
actually.
676
00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:30,616
>> Please, go for it, go for it!
677
00:14:30,651 --> 00:14:32,618
Go, ask questions, please.
678
00:14:32,653 --> 00:14:34,620
>> I'm gonna play the voice of
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the viewers, you know, and
680
00:14:36,091 --> 00:14:37,156
things that we've been dying to
681
00:14:37,192 --> 00:14:39,626
know, and I'm gonna go to...
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Olivier.
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A lot of my readers...
684
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>> Mm-hmm.
685
00:14:42,698 --> 00:14:43,965
>> Uh, who read my blog, and as
686
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,266
well as myself, have been
687
00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:48,069
wondering about your accent.
688
00:14:48,105 --> 00:14:48,970
>> Okay.
689
00:14:49,006 --> 00:14:50,639
>> It's so true.
690
00:14:50,674 --> 00:14:52,607
I'm like, where--I'm British,
691
00:14:52,642 --> 00:14:53,742
and I've never heard anything
692
00:14:53,777 --> 00:14:54,576
quite like it.
693
00:14:54,611 --> 00:14:55,610
>> You haven't, okay.
694
00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:56,410
>> Yeah.
695
00:14:56,446 --> 00:14:57,311
>> I know you were born in Ohio,
696
00:14:57,347 --> 00:14:57,979
right?
697
00:14:58,014 --> 00:14:58,979
>> Yeah, I was born in Ohio.
698
00:14:59,015 --> 00:14:59,580
>> Tell me, tell me.
699
00:14:59,615 --> 00:15:00,648
>> And then I moved away when I
700
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was two, two years old.
701
00:15:02,284 --> 00:15:03,617
I was raised in Taiwan, I lived
702
00:15:03,652 --> 00:15:04,651
on the West Coast for a little
703
00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:06,252
while, and I went to London when
704
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I was 16, and I went to Milan
705
00:15:08,256 --> 00:15:09,321
for university, and I moved back
706
00:15:09,357 --> 00:15:10,189
to London after that.
707
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>> Okay.
708
00:15:11,025 --> 00:15:11,991
>> And then I moved from London
709
00:15:12,027 --> 00:15:13,660
to here, to New York, this
710
00:15:13,695 --> 00:15:15,228
February, and a lot of people
711
00:15:15,264 --> 00:15:16,496
have been asking me, like
712
00:15:16,532 --> 00:15:18,665
they're being--accusing me of
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00:15:18,701 --> 00:15:19,733
copying a British accent, but
714
00:15:19,769 --> 00:15:21,002
like, I think Zanna knows, it's
715
00:15:21,037 --> 00:15:22,069
not a British accent.
716
00:15:22,105 --> 00:15:23,337
>> It's just a mix breed.
717
00:15:23,373 --> 00:15:24,405
It's a real, like, hybrid of
718
00:15:24,441 --> 00:15:25,140
different accents.
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00:15:25,175 --> 00:15:26,207
It's definitely not like the
720
00:15:26,243 --> 00:15:27,309
northern accent that I've got,
721
00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:28,410
like North England.
722
00:15:29,113 --> 00:15:31,280
>> It's more--it's a well-to-do
723
00:15:31,315 --> 00:15:32,281
accent, we'd say.
724
00:15:32,316 --> 00:15:33,682
>> All right, so now we've
725
00:15:33,717 --> 00:15:34,682
established where the accent
726
00:15:34,718 --> 00:15:36,017
comes from, right, I have a
727
00:15:36,053 --> 00:15:36,685
second question.
728
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,352
>> Yes.
729
00:15:37,388 --> 00:15:39,221
>> It seems that possibly you
730
00:15:39,256 --> 00:15:41,357
had a problem with the sistas.
731
00:15:41,392 --> 00:15:42,425
Do you know what I'm talkin'
732
00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:43,259
about?
733
00:15:44,128 --> 00:15:44,994
>> They do.
734
00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:46,596
I mean, he doesn't know.
735
00:15:46,631 --> 00:15:47,564
>> The girls.
736
00:15:47,599 --> 00:15:49,032
>> With the double Ds.
737
00:15:49,067 --> 00:15:50,500
>> Okay, oh, with the boobs?
738
00:15:50,535 --> 00:15:51,434
>> We call them the sistas,
739
00:15:51,470 --> 00:15:52,235
right?
740
00:15:53,038 --> 00:15:53,670
Thank you.
741
00:15:53,706 --> 00:15:55,105
Do you still have that issue,
742
00:15:55,140 --> 00:15:55,772
and why?
743
00:15:55,807 --> 00:15:56,673
And why did you have that--
744
00:15:56,709 --> 00:15:57,641
>> I don't have that problem
745
00:15:57,676 --> 00:15:59,309
with any...
746
00:15:59,345 --> 00:16:00,310
of our body parts.
747
00:16:01,647 --> 00:16:02,680
>> With these things.
748
00:16:02,715 --> 00:16:04,248
>> Her breasts are like
749
00:16:04,284 --> 00:16:05,049
ginormous.
750
00:16:05,085 --> 00:16:05,717
Is that correct?
751
00:16:05,752 --> 00:16:07,051
>> Big, yeah, big.
752
00:16:07,087 --> 00:16:08,620
>> You know, I don't like women
753
00:16:08,655 --> 00:16:10,055
having boobs, I just want them
754
00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:11,256
to be flat, like when I come up
755
00:16:11,291 --> 00:16:12,057
with the design.
756
00:16:12,092 --> 00:16:13,458
I think that distracts the whole
757
00:16:13,493 --> 00:16:14,392
line.
758
00:16:14,427 --> 00:16:15,560
>> Tim, am I allowed to ask you
759
00:16:15,595 --> 00:16:17,729
what double D means, like breast
760
00:16:17,764 --> 00:16:18,729
size?
761
00:16:18,765 --> 00:16:20,531
>> What do I know about it?
762
00:16:20,566 --> 00:16:22,133
I just know it's a bra size.
763
00:16:23,169 --> 00:16:24,101
I don't have any personal
764
00:16:24,136 --> 00:16:25,669
experience with it, Olivier.
765
00:16:25,705 --> 00:16:27,071
>> Those boobs to me are
766
00:16:27,106 --> 00:16:28,305
trouble.
767
00:16:28,341 --> 00:16:29,740
Those were problems when it
768
00:16:29,775 --> 00:16:31,508
comes to design, but not a
769
00:16:31,544 --> 00:16:33,077
problem in general, like...
770
00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:34,712
Why would I have a problem with
771
00:16:34,748 --> 00:16:35,513
any body parts?
772
00:16:35,548 --> 00:16:37,748
You can have boobs as big as you
773
00:16:37,784 --> 00:16:38,749
want, I don't really care.
774
00:16:39,752 --> 00:16:41,351
>> You know what double D is?
775
00:16:41,387 --> 00:16:43,454
>> I wasn't like having no clue
776
00:16:43,489 --> 00:16:45,723
about--that's a bra, like a bra
777
00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,692
cup size, I was wondering why it
778
00:16:47,727 --> 00:16:49,094
didn't go from A-B-C-D to E,
779
00:16:49,129 --> 00:16:50,262
but double D, 'cause you don't
780
00:16:50,297 --> 00:16:51,196
see double C, double B,
781
00:16:51,232 --> 00:16:52,130
double A, you know?
782
00:16:55,102 --> 00:16:55,834
>> Oh, God!
783
00:16:55,870 --> 00:16:57,436
>> I think we're good, right?
784
00:16:57,471 --> 00:16:58,370
>> I think we're good, we got
785
00:16:58,406 --> 00:16:59,071
the boobs down.
786
00:16:59,107 --> 00:17:00,072
>> I love it.
787
00:17:00,107 --> 00:17:01,440
>> That's my question.
788
00:17:02,543 --> 00:17:03,342
>> Thank you, Olivier, thank
789
00:17:03,377 --> 00:17:04,109
you, darling.
790
00:17:04,145 --> 00:17:05,110
>> We're gonna have a little
791
00:17:05,146 --> 00:17:05,778
lesson after this, right?
792
00:17:05,813 --> 00:17:06,379
>> Yes.
793
00:17:07,115 --> 00:17:07,714
>> Oh, my God.
794
00:17:07,749 --> 00:17:08,748
>> All right, I want to discuss
795
00:17:08,783 --> 00:17:09,715
now, let's see, Laura.
796
00:17:09,751 --> 00:17:10,516
>> Thanks, thanks.
797
00:17:10,551 --> 00:17:11,417
>> All right, I want to talk to
798
00:17:11,452 --> 00:17:12,284
you about money.
799
00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:13,652
>> Okay.
800
00:17:13,688 --> 00:17:14,753
>> Now in this last challenge
801
00:17:14,789 --> 00:17:15,754
you had $300.
802
00:17:16,957 --> 00:17:18,557
>> Ooh, I was angry.
803
00:17:19,593 --> 00:17:21,560
Miss Laura, she had $300,
804
00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:23,162
and she done been spending like
805
00:17:23,197 --> 00:17:24,764
$700, right?
806
00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:26,766
>> Oh, Imelda Marcos over here.
807
00:17:26,801 --> 00:17:27,767
Whoo!
808
00:17:27,802 --> 00:17:29,235
>> I think what I do, with the
809
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:30,803
limited amount of time, I never
810
00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:31,804
wanted to be stuck up at the
811
00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,672
counter, being like, "I wish I
812
00:17:32,707 --> 00:17:33,406
would've cut that."
813
00:17:33,441 --> 00:17:34,107
>> Right, right.
814
00:17:34,142 --> 00:17:34,808
>> Mmm.
815
00:17:34,843 --> 00:17:35,842
>> And so I'm like, "just cut it
816
00:17:35,878 --> 00:17:36,810
all, I want it all, I'll take
817
00:17:36,845 --> 00:17:38,144
it," and then for like the one
818
00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:39,346
challenge where Bert was very
819
00:17:39,381 --> 00:17:40,814
generous to give me money for
820
00:17:40,850 --> 00:17:42,816
the group rocker challenge, um,
821
00:17:42,852 --> 00:17:44,351
I actually bought enough fabric
822
00:17:44,387 --> 00:17:46,153
to make two different looks, and
823
00:17:46,188 --> 00:17:47,187
I didn't even use a whole batch
824
00:17:47,223 --> 00:17:48,222
of it, but it was because I was
825
00:17:48,257 --> 00:17:49,189
like, "well, what if," you know?
826
00:17:49,225 --> 00:17:49,890
>> Right, right.
827
00:17:49,925 --> 00:17:50,925
>> I mean, I didn't want to run
828
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,826
into an issue.
829
00:17:51,861 --> 00:17:53,294
I will be no stranger to saying
830
00:17:53,329 --> 00:17:54,895
that I love to spend money.
831
00:17:54,931 --> 00:17:55,930
>> You heard it here, she loves
832
00:17:55,965 --> 00:17:57,231
to spend money.
833
00:17:57,267 --> 00:17:57,932
>> I do.
834
00:17:57,968 --> 00:17:58,867
Mom's like, "oh, gosh--"
835
00:17:59,536 --> 00:18:00,201
>> I know.
836
00:18:00,237 --> 00:18:00,969
"There's my girl!"
837
00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:02,637
>> Yeah, right?
838
00:18:02,673 --> 00:18:03,705
>> I think now I'm gonna, like,
839
00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:04,839
do the little "spin the bottle
840
00:18:04,874 --> 00:18:06,407
with Nick," and it's gonna go
841
00:18:06,443 --> 00:18:07,175
to...
842
00:18:07,210 --> 00:18:07,809
Anya.
843
00:18:07,844 --> 00:18:08,743
>> Oh, how did I know?
844
00:18:10,213 --> 00:18:11,746
>> All right, so with you, I
845
00:18:11,781 --> 00:18:13,181
think the main, important thing
846
00:18:13,216 --> 00:18:14,449
that a lot of the viewers want
847
00:18:14,484 --> 00:18:16,017
to know is, the sewing.
848
00:18:16,052 --> 00:18:17,685
You just learned how to sew.
849
00:18:17,721 --> 00:18:18,419
>> Mm-hmm.
850
00:18:18,455 --> 00:18:19,320
>> And then you created some
851
00:18:19,355 --> 00:18:20,321
amazing things, and everybody's
852
00:18:20,356 --> 00:18:21,189
like, "where did that come
853
00:18:21,224 --> 00:18:21,956
from?"
854
00:18:21,991 --> 00:18:23,191
And I remember that a lot of the
855
00:18:23,226 --> 00:18:24,292
viewers, a lot of people, you
856
00:18:24,327 --> 00:18:25,360
know, I talked to said, "well,
857
00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:26,194
was she lying?"
858
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:26,728
>> Right.
859
00:18:26,763 --> 00:18:27,395
>> Right?
860
00:18:27,431 --> 00:18:27,996
>> Yes.
861
00:18:28,031 --> 00:18:29,197
>> Because all of a sudden it's
862
00:18:29,232 --> 00:18:29,698
like...
863
00:18:29,733 --> 00:18:30,465
"And I have a gown."
864
00:18:31,401 --> 00:18:31,967
Yes.
865
00:18:32,002 --> 00:18:33,201
>> I can't make a jacket, I'll
866
00:18:33,237 --> 00:18:33,935
just put it out there.
867
00:18:34,871 --> 00:18:35,737
I don't feel bad.
868
00:18:35,772 --> 00:18:36,671
We don't wear jackets in the
869
00:18:36,707 --> 00:18:37,639
Caribbean, so I don't feel bad
870
00:18:37,674 --> 00:18:38,406
about that.
871
00:18:39,442 --> 00:18:41,575
I'll learn, but, um, you know,
872
00:18:41,611 --> 00:18:42,610
when the people question me
873
00:18:42,645 --> 00:18:43,844
about the sewing, I feel it's
874
00:18:43,879 --> 00:18:44,878
kind of an underhanded
875
00:18:44,913 --> 00:18:46,813
compliment, because I really did
876
00:18:46,848 --> 00:18:47,881
just learn, and it's sort of
877
00:18:47,916 --> 00:18:49,882
like, well, I did the best that
878
00:18:49,918 --> 00:18:51,651
I could, and it really shocks me
879
00:18:51,686 --> 00:18:52,619
as much as it shocked anybody
880
00:18:52,654 --> 00:18:53,287
else.
881
00:18:53,322 --> 00:18:54,254
I was always last.
882
00:18:54,290 --> 00:18:54,855
>> Mm-hmm.
883
00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:56,056
>> I was always sewing people
884
00:18:56,092 --> 00:18:57,825
in, I mean, those are the part
885
00:18:57,860 --> 00:18:58,860
of the "make it work" moments.
886
00:18:58,895 --> 00:18:59,594
>> Right.
887
00:18:59,629 --> 00:19:00,729
The people with more experience,
888
00:19:00,764 --> 00:19:01,930
I understand the frustration of
889
00:19:01,965 --> 00:19:02,664
not--
890
00:19:02,699 --> 00:19:03,432
>> Right.
891
00:19:03,467 --> 00:19:04,834
Of being further ahead, and then
892
00:19:04,869 --> 00:19:06,402
I still won some of the
893
00:19:06,437 --> 00:19:07,236
challenges.
894
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:07,903
>> Right.
895
00:19:07,939 --> 00:19:09,639
You know? So--but I guess all I
896
00:19:09,674 --> 00:19:11,474
can say to my defense is that I
897
00:19:11,509 --> 00:19:12,308
worked as hard as anybody
898
00:19:12,343 --> 00:19:13,208
else...
899
00:19:13,244 --> 00:19:13,909
>> Mm-hmm.
900
00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:14,910
>> With the tools that I had.
901
00:19:14,945 --> 00:19:15,844
>> And you still made it work,
902
00:19:15,879 --> 00:19:16,912
and I have to say, it just
903
00:19:16,947 --> 00:19:19,214
showed that you were and are a
904
00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:19,881
talented designer.
905
00:19:19,917 --> 00:19:20,682
>> Thank you.
906
00:19:20,717 --> 00:19:21,616
>> And I always say that, you
907
00:19:21,651 --> 00:19:24,385
know, it isn't--it isn't Project
908
00:19:24,421 --> 00:19:26,921
Seamstress, it does help to
909
00:19:26,956 --> 00:19:28,656
have that experience, but in the
910
00:19:28,691 --> 00:19:29,757
end, that's why the tagline
911
00:19:29,792 --> 00:19:32,226
comes in, "Make it Work."
912
00:19:32,261 --> 00:19:32,926
>> Exactly.
913
00:19:32,962 --> 00:19:33,861
>> You know, and you have
914
00:19:33,896 --> 00:19:36,097
extremely innate sense of style.
915
00:19:36,132 --> 00:19:38,032
Finally, I just want to say that
916
00:19:38,067 --> 00:19:41,268
I want to give you a hug for
917
00:19:41,303 --> 00:19:43,771
being part of the five crew.
918
00:19:43,806 --> 00:19:44,505
>> The five crew?
919
00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:45,472
>> 'Cause I was number five on
920
00:19:45,507 --> 00:19:46,273
Season Two.
921
00:19:46,308 --> 00:19:47,307
>> Oh, well then, we're number--
922
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:48,942
>> Oh.
923
00:19:48,977 --> 00:19:49,977
>> So welcome to number five!
924
00:19:50,012 --> 00:19:50,943
>> It will be a new show,
925
00:19:50,958 --> 00:19:51,590
"Five."
926
00:19:52,077 --> 00:19:53,043
>> It's good, because you're
927
00:19:53,078 --> 00:19:54,277
like, I mean, I made it far,
928
00:19:54,313 --> 00:19:55,045
but--
929
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,712
>> Yes, yes!
930
00:19:55,748 --> 00:19:56,413
Oh.
931
00:19:56,448 --> 00:19:57,714
>> All right, guys, thank you
932
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:58,682
so much.
933
00:19:58,717 --> 00:20:00,083
Well, that's all we have time
934
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,017
for tonight.
935
00:20:01,053 --> 00:20:02,252
I want to thank Nick so much
936
00:20:02,287 --> 00:20:03,053
for coming in.
937
00:20:03,088 --> 00:20:03,720
>> Oh, of course.
938
00:20:03,756 --> 00:20:05,455
>> And all you guys, fabulously
939
00:20:05,491 --> 00:20:06,656
styled out designers, you look
940
00:20:06,692 --> 00:20:08,358
amazing, and thank you so much
941
00:20:08,394 --> 00:20:09,693
again, for joining us.
942
00:20:09,728 --> 00:20:11,828
And we will be back next week.
943
00:20:11,864 --> 00:20:12,796
Cheerio.
944
00:20:14,401 --> 00:20:18,401
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