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I'm seeing a female losing her mind.
There's a struggle on whose house this is.
I see attacks every day, every day.
- We're kind of trapped. - Then I hear "death".
Do you think there's any foul play involved here?
It might be a poltergeist.
I feel like it's watching me.
"Mine, mine. Back the [Bleep] off".
I want to have my home back.
I encountered a poltergeist.
They're being watched.
My name is Amy Allan.
This thing likes death.
I see dead people.
This thing is, like, a monster.
I speak to dead people.
And he's pissed off now.
And they speak to me.
His head was cracked.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
This guy was murdered.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective.
I cannot help you unless I know the whole story.
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
You saw her? It's my job to reveal them.
Why would you stay here?
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Stop it.
We uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening.
Or time to get out.
[ Crying ] I told you there were ghosts in this house.
Di Schiavi: Amy and I investigate each case separately.
I uncover a property's history and question the witnesses involved.
While Amy talks to the dead.
When we're done, we reveal our findings to our client and each other.
I'm in Westminster, Colorado.
It's a sleepy little suburb about 20 minutes north of Denver.
I received a call from a woman named Cara, who's a single mom.
She tells me her entire family's afraid to be in the house alone.
She does not sound good.
I'm hoping Amy and I can help her out.
[ Insects chirping ]
[ Door creaks ]
Anderson: Before Amy can start her walk,
I need to make sure she is free from any outside influences.
This house is filled with photographs of a mother and her young children,
that have to be covered or removed.
When I'm finished, Amy can begin.
[ Door creaks ]
I'm seeing a female freaking out...
Losing her mind.
Something with, like, the walls.
I just see her jumping around and, like, screaming
and, like, then looking at the wall.
The lady who's freaking out is alive, and they're being attacked.
It's really bad in here.
Cara, I got to tell you... you sounded pretty concerned on the phone.
Uh, why don't you tell me what's going on?
Well, I'm a single parent, and I'm here with my two children by myself.
We have footsteps, voices.
Um, we're seeing things, hearing things, things are moving.
- How old are your kids? - 8 and 10.
It's really hard to have a 10-year-old who's very fearful in his own home, and...
And just it definitely has affected him the most.
He won't go anywhere in the home without somebody with him.
How long has this been going on?
The entire time that we've lived here... about ten and a half years.
However, when my ex-husband moved out, the activity got worse.
So that's why we called you in.
What do you know about the house? I mean, when was it built, anything like that?
I know it was built in 1985. No one's lived here more than two years.
I'm the only one who has stuck it out this long.
You mentioned you were a nurse on the phone, so what kind of a nurse are you?
I'm a hospice nurse, dealing with people who have six months or less to live.
It's really emotionally draining.
So, you're living here 10 years.
You've been dealing with this almost ever since you moved in. Dealt with a divorce.
You're raising two kids on your own.
I mean, how are you dealing with it?
Well, it's incredibly stressful. I want to have my home back.
[ Insects chirping ]
Allan: There is an old lady here.
There is a relationship here with her and this living woman who flipped out.
She's tormented, and this old lady... I think she's trying to help,
but she doesn't even know where to begin to help.
To help what?
Something is [Bleep] with people here.
It might not be a dead person.
It might be a poltergeist.
So, what's going on in this part of the house?
When my son was younger, he actually used to talk to a man
that he saw in the ceiling right over that chair over there.
He would talk to him and tell him to get down off the ceiling.
And it was just really creepy.
Wow. Okay.
We've had 8 floods in the last 10 years.
What kind of floods? What are you talking about?
Floods like pipes breaking, sump pumps failing.
We even had a manhole cover out on the street flood my backyard.
What about your neighbors?
As far as I know, none of them have had floods.
Anything else going on?
I had two groups come and investigate, but they weren't really able to help me.
They did some cleansing.
They also did salt crosses with the salt water
and the lines in the doorway to keep out the activity.
So, did things get any better after they left?
No, nothing has worked. We're kind of trapped.
[ Insects chirping ]
I feel that there's violence inflicted on these people.
That feeling of, like, you've been, like, tortured.
So far, this walk is really strange.
I can tell someone is suffering,
but whatever's responsible won't reveal itself to me.
There is really something they're going through, but...
[ Whispers ] But I don't know what it is.
[ Normal voice ] I feel their, like, panic and their stress.
Like, I almost feel like someone's suicidal because of this.
It's almost like in an abusive relationship,
and you're being beat every day.
You're not afraid of it, you know it's gonna happen anyways.
So, what's going on in here?
One of the first things that I saw after moving in here
was a big glowing orb come from my bathroom while I was in bed.
And it was bright, like the sun, and it was big, almost person-size.
And it stayed there for a long time. It felt like forever.
Okay, were you in bed alone?
I actually was sleeping with my son, Noah.
I gotta ask you a question, though, do you take any kind of sleeping medication,
so you may get hallucinations from it or anything like that?
No.
So, have you experienced anything else in the room?
I also have felt like something was crawling up my bed,
almost like someone was crawling over me, going up the bed.
I could feel the sheets being pulled tight around me.
Then I yelled at it to go away.
- And did it stop? - It did stop.
After all you've told me, I find it amazing that you could still live here,
I mean, you don't have a safe spot in the house.
No. And I almost feel like I'm in a
struggle on whose house this is.
[ Insects chirping ]
Allan: Oh [Bleep]
Ooh. Ooh.
[ Exhales deeply ]
Okay.
Yeah, I feel like the attack's every day, every day.
Who the [Bleep] is doing this?
I think that it's the beginnings of a poltergeist manifestation.
It's needing a lot of feeding.
If this thing is fully formed, can it hurt people?
Yes, absolutely.
You know, it can cut them, start fires.
It could rape.
And beat people.
It can be very, very brutal and violent.
I think that it's the beginnings of a poltergeist manifestation.
It can start fires...
Rape and beat people.
So, yeah, it can be very, very brutal and violent.
- You're pretty sure this is a poltergeist? - Yes, absolutely.
Poltergeists are usually created unintentionally,
when someone with psychic abilities represses intense negative emotions.
These entities can interact with the physical world,
and if the poltergeist develops, it could become extremely dangerous.
But this [Bleep] is, like...
Mindless.
Its creator is living, and it'll do whatever the creator wants it to.
[ Birds chirping ]
So, Kymber, I was talking with mom,
and I understand you and your brother have had some experiences yourself.
Yeah. There's been things I've seen downstairs.
I've heard footsteps in the stairs, and I saw a witch on the wall over there.
You saw a witch?
You couldn't really see her face and...
Her face was covered with black hair.
So, this woman... how'd she make you feel?
I wanted to leave this room right now.
I was just shaking and hiding under the covers.
How active is it in your room, does it happen a lot?
- Will you hear things? - Well, it's not really active in my room.
It's more active in Noah's room.
And it's mostly active in my mom's room.
Okay.
[ Insects chirping ]
There's this old lady.
[ Door creaks ]
I get "grandma, grandma, grandma".
She's here a lot.
It doesn't feel as bad as the other room...
At all.
It feels better in here.
Safer in here.
Uh because she's like, she's always in here.
I mean, she's trying to protect and make it good for whoever's in here.
Anderson: What is she protecting against?
I don't know.
Something really, really bad.
[ Insects chirping ]
Di Schiavi: Kymber told me that her brother was experiencing more activity in his room.
According to their mom,
Noah's actually afraid to be alone anywhere in the house.
I'm gonna have to hear his story.
I'm scared to just be upstairs alone by myself all the time.
The one thing that scares me is that...
Behind my door over there um...
There's this thing that's...
It's just very scary. Like, I feel like it's watching me.
- It's, like, a shadow kind of. - Okay.
And the edges of it are kind of like... they kind of, like, fade a little bit.
I don't know if it's... it feels pretty negative.
It doesn't seem very friendly.
Okay, you having trouble sleeping at night because of that?
Yeah, it's...
Very scary.
[ Insects chirping ]
Ooh. Ooh.
Oh.
Okay, we got something with the closets here.
Anderson: Is it the same thing you saw in the other closet?
It's something different.
But it's weird because it's every night.
It's like a nightly creation.
But I think that he's mostly seen as...
Like, a shadow man or a shadow person.
So, is this guy pretty much just in the closet?
I just get like it's kind of his own space.
And it does scare someone a lot.
This is where he likes to be, so it just so happens
that whoever's in this room would get more frightened
than everybody else, because he's more consistently here.
[ Birds chirping ]
Noah: One morning, I woke up.
There was, like, a light, like somebody was shining a flashlight under my door.
And there's just, like, a little crack, so you could barely, like, see it.
Okay.
So, I open the door, and it was like a glowing, like, light, circle thing.
I saw it for like a second or two and I, like, scared it or something and it...
Okay.
Now, how you dealing with all this stuff that's going on?
I'm kind of very cautious of upstairs.
Like, it's very hard to be up here alone.
Like, I always want Kymber with me.
- It's really scary. - Okay.
[ Insects chirping ]
This guy is the tormentor.
So, there's a woman and then...
This kid who he,
really just torments.
Like, I feel like he can put weight on the bed.
You know like, it feels like somebody's sitting there.
A lot of movement around him.
I feel all of this dread.
Anderson: Do you know why he does that?
This tormentor feels like he's being invaded.
Anderson: So, what makes you say that?
There was, like, this moment of, like...
"Mine, mine.
This is my people, mine".
And, "back the [Bleep] off".
Di Schiavi: Cara's house is only 27 years old.
I looked into its history,
and I couldn't find any deaths associated with the property.
So I'm headed over to meet with a prominent real-estate developer
to see what was on the land before Cara's house was there.
The house I'm investigating was built in 1985, and I know you're a developer.
Can you give me an idea what was there prior to the houses being built?
More or less, what was there was just what you see.
It was open farmland for dry land grazing.
Who owned the land back then?
My grandfather, who, in 1869, decided to start Church Ranch.
It had to be tough back in those days to get a farm going.
Well, the standard worries were, obviously, food and water to drink and shelter.
Our family was very involved in bringing the first water
down from the Continental Divide to this eastern slope.
Life wasn't easy here.
It was very challenging. Farming's still challenging.
You can have an accident, where somebody gets hurt by a piece of machinery
or falls into an irrigation ditch.
That was not uncommon.
Now, were they any deaths associated with all that work?
There were many deaths associated with irrigation.
One of the ones in this local area that I've heard about
was a fella by the name of John Shannon that fell in and drowned.
Allan: These two men are talking.
Somebody's saying, "having a problem keeping animals alive".
They're very, very stressed out.
Do you know what he's worried about?
Then he's talking about water, like water flow...
And being ruined financially.
- Why? - Because the animals are dying.
Okay.
Well, one of the guys looks kind of like that guy.
This dead farmer is angry that I'm seeing him.
I realize now this guy is the tormentor hiding in the kid's closet.
He's just pretending to be a shadow figure to protect his space.
He's got a cowboy hat on.
He's got a plaid button-down long-sleeve shirt.
He's got jeans and a belt on.
[ Door creaks ]
He's created this monster of himself from himself.
I saw the word...
"Death".
Di Schiavi: I've managed to track down a descendant of John Shannon,
the man who died in a local irrigation ditch.
And she tells me her great-grandfather lived a colorful life,
and his death was no accident.
So, I understand you're a descendant of John Shannon's.
Yes, I'm his great-granddaughter.
Here's some pictures of my great-grandfather.
What can you tell me about him?
The oldest boy, before he died, told my grandma that he remembers he'd have to
take the younger boys and hide them down by the creek
so their father wouldn't beat them.
He was mean to the kids. He was mean to the farm animals.
- Really? - Yeah.
He had beat one of the horses so bad that somebody had to pull him off.
- You're kidding. - No.
And then I do remember hearing that when the youngest child was a newborn,
that the mother walked in and found the father trying to smother the baby.
[ Insects chirping ]
Allan: The tormentor won't leave me alone,
and he's following me down to the basement.
And I'm feeling like... there's like a...
I think this is a kid being, like, held down and smothered.
He can't breathe.
Seeing uh...
This dark mass...
Standing...
Smothering.
[ Sighs ]
There's just some psycho [Bleep] going on in this house.
I heard a rumor that he may have drowned in a ditch. Is that correct?
My great-grandfather died in July of 1936.
He didn't come home for supper one night, and so my great-grandmother
had some of the local men out looking for him.
And they found his hat and jacket by the irrigation ditch.
And they drained the ditch and somebody,
went down in there and brought the body out.
And when I found the death certificate here,
it says the official cause is drowning.
But it does leave the question of...
Did he have a heart attack and fall in the ditch or...
Do you think there's any foul play involved here?
I've wondered about the oldest boy.
In what way?
Because he was very devoted to his mother.
The day that he ended up dead,
there were people trying to get the kids taken out of their custody.
The day of his funeral,
they all went home, and the oldest boy said, "we don't ever talk about this".
And great-grandma never talked about it.
Wow.
[ Insects chirping ]
And then that thing is behind me.
What thing?
The dead guy from upstairs.
Okay.
And is laughing hysterically.
This tormentor from upstairs is furious that I've seen through his disguise
and can tell that he's not actually a shadow figure.
He clearly wants me to get out of the house.
He just followed me in from the garage.
He's very, very, very angry.
Oh, I don't feel good in here.
This one's, like, really, really bad.
He says, "oh, can't breathe, can you? Ha ha".
I can't breathe. [ Gasps ]
Di Schiavi: After hearing about John Shannon,
I needed to see if there's any other suspicious deaths related to the property.
As I'm looking through the town's records,
I found that a young newlywed, Gertrude Weaver, used to live on Cara's land.
She died while away on her honeymoon, but the cause is unclear.
Newspaper reports list three different causes of death...
Accident, suicide, and homicide, all by gunshot.
Now that I've got two mysterious deaths on one property,
I need to try to figure out how Gertrude Weaver really died.
[ Insects chirping ]
Allan: I just saw, like, someone walk by.
It was a woman, younger.
She might just be some residual or something.
Like, there's no, like, interaction.
Can you describe her at all?
She's wearing a nightgown that's white
with, like, little design here or something
and little poufy sleeves, like these, kind of.
Gaunt face, long.
And I kind of did hear "suicide" with her.
Di Schiavi: All of the newspaper reports say that Gertrude Weaver
was shot by a gun her husband gave her to use in case of an emergency.
But the papers don't confirm if her death was an accident, homicide, or suicide.
So I'm meeting with an antique gun expert
who says he can help me figure out what happened.
Di Schiavi: Now, is this the same type of weapon that killed Gertrude?
Horne: Yes, it is.
In your opinion, could this have been an accident?
To have an accidental shooting with one of these would be extremely difficult.
What if it was cocked back and it's leaning up against the wall, for instance?
If it falls, would it go off?
The chances of it going off are almost nil.
It's not a hair trigger.
You would actually have to pull the trigger in order for the gun to go off.
Okay, so we can rule out accidental.
But as a general rule, women do not kill themselves with a firearm.
My opinion... somebody shot her.
But we can't rule out suicide.
Two reasons why I don't think this was a suicide
is the length of the rifle and the weight of the rifle.
Feel how heavy that is.
Wow. It's heavier than it looks.
It's a 12 to 13 pound rifle.
I mean, a 21-year-old small woman,
you know, in order to hold it like this and get shot center-mass in the heart...
I mean, she'd have to be 6'8 with 4-foot arms in order to do that to herself.
Right.
But people can be really resourceful, and if she wanted to do it,
- she could have rigged something. - Yeah.
She'd have to prop it up somehow or rig it.
I've seen people put their toes in the friggin'
trigger guard and blow their brains out.
Who knows what was going through this girl's head?
Allan: During my walk, I watched an old dead woman
trying to protect a panicked living woman from a dangerous entity.
I'm working with a sketch artist to describe what I saw.
There is a woman who's kneeling on the couch facing the wall.
She has her hands up on the top of the back of the couch.
And then there's, like, a little old lady who...
Is standing close.
- Describe this woman for me. - Okay.
She was pretty old, so she's fairly wrinkled.
And she's wearing big, thick glasses.
Can you tell me anything more about the hairstyle?
It kind of stands up, but it curls back.
Is this what you saw?
Yes.
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings for the first time.
Cara, it's good to see you again.
I want to introduce you to my partner, Amy.
Cara lives here. She's a single mom with two children.
The three of them are living in terror here.
Her oldest son, Noah, is probably the most affected by it.
He's afraid to be in the house alone.
He has to sleep with the light on, can't have his friends over to the house,
and she feels it's destroying his childhood.
With that being said, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy,
so we can hear a little bit about her walk.
When I walked into the house, I saw a woman.
She's a living person.
And she was just flipping out.
She was screaming and yelling and out of control.
I was seeing everything through her eyes.
Allan: The lady who's freaking out is alive, and they're being attacked.
It's really bad in here.
The other person that was there was this little old lady that is dead,
and she's a conscious entity.
I feel, definitely, a female presence in the house.
I did sketch the scene that I saw.
- The scene of what? The two women? - Of the two women.
You saw the living woman and the dead woman together?
Yes.
Wow.
Take a look at that.
So, the person in the background is a living woman.
And she was really being tormented by whatever was happening.
The impression I got was something moving by or something that was scaring her.
And this is the old lady who's dead.
That's very scary.
I'm a hospice nurse, and so I deal with death...
- All of the time. - Oh, man.
It could be a lady that I had pass about a year ago...
- Oh, wow. - That I really cared about.
She's very, very protective of the lavender room
and spends a large amount of time in there...
Uh, just sitting and being, like, calming.
That's your daughter's room,
and she seems to be the least affected in the house.
There's another woman here.
She was a younger woman and she had long light-brown hair.
And when she was walking by, I heard "suicide".
The house is only 27 years old, so I looked into the land here.
Where your house sits was part of a big, huge 17,000-acre farm,
set up into homesteads.
And the turn of the century, there was a woman by the name of Gertrude Weaver
who lived on the farmland here.
This is her here.
One day, they found her dead.
She was shot in the chest.
So, the newspaper articles on Gertrude's death listed three causes...
Accidental, suicide, and homicide.
I consulted with a rifle expert, and he ruled out accidental.
But, in my opinion as a homicide investigator,
I'm leaning towards homicide, but I can't rule out suicide...
- Whoa. - Because it's possible.
Is she dangerous to Cara and her family?
No.
But the next individual that I encountered I believe is responsible
for everything that is going on in the house that's negative.
He is the tormentor.
I saw him trying to hold down and smother a child.
And then he made me feel like I couldn't breathe.
If somebody were to perceive him, it would look more like a shadow person.
He can go anywhere he wants in the house, but he loves the blue room's closet.
This is where he likes to be, so it just so happens that whoever's in this room
would get more frightened than everybody else,
because he's more consistently here.
That describes what's going on with your son to a "T" almost.
Yeah, he sees a shadow person beside his door all the time...
Okay.
Kind of like a blurry edged shadow person.
Mm hmm.
And I can't even close the door without him screaming.
So, I go out into the backyard.
And I actually get to see his true self when he was alive.
He seemed to be some type of farmer or rancher.
He was really, really stressed out about his water source
and water issues that were happening at that time.
We have water issues.
I've had 8 separate floods in 10 years in my home.
Fixed pipes, multiple sump pumps,
and then when everything was fixed in the basement,
a manhole cover flooded my basement, not any of my neighbors.
None of my neighbors have had the issues.
Most people lived here only two years, except for me.
He really believes that this is his home, that you're his possessions,
and he...
Is an abuser.
Amy, let me tell you about this guy John Shannon.
He was a lousy farmer.
And his biggest worries was irrigation and the water.
- This is him as a farmer. - Oh.
- All right? And this is him. - Oh.
- There's a better photo of him up close. - Whoa.
I talked to his great-granddaughter, and she told me...
He beat a horse so bad, people had to pull him off the horse.
Oh, my God.
Matter of fact, he abused his kids.
And it got to the point where the older kids,
would take the younger kids and hide them when he'd come home,
because they were so afraid of him beating them down.
The state was gonna come and take,
his eight children away from him and his wife because he was so abusive.
John Shannon dies in July of 1936.
And I got the death certificate here.
His cause of death is drowning.
And they find him in a water ditch.
The great-granddaughter thinks that maybe somebody murdered him.
She had the feeling that the oldest boy might have done it.
But do you think this is the guy?
I do.
[ Insects chirping ]
The part that really concerned me was...
I encountered the beginnings of a PK manifestation.
That is a branch off of a poltergeist.
These things cut people...
Beat people up...
And it could also possibly kill someone.
I encountered the beginnings of a PK manifestation.
That is a branch off of a poltergeist.
These things cut people...
Beat people up...
And it could also possibly kill someone.
Now, what happens with a PK manifestation
is that it stems from a living agent at the location.
It's just purely the person's energy.
It's not something you can see.
These things feed off of negativity.
Fear, anger, depression become absorbed immediately into this.
And then it starts to actually create an entity.
It was initially created by a female.
Who's going through a very intense time.
Do you know who formed it or helped form it?
Well, I think that it's...
Yeah, probably me then.
I have been through a lot of stress.
Okay.
So, does Cara have abilities?
Yes.
And so does her son.
So, you have abilities...
You're in the house with dead people.
And you're under a great amount of stress.
It's the perfect storm.
[ Insects chirping ]
Well, Cara, this is obviously not what you wanted to hear,
but the investigations did give you the answers
as to why it's happening, what's going on.
The big question is, though... is it safe for you and your children to stay here?
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
So, I do believe that you can stay.
Good, good.
Because I can't sell this place.
But there are a few things that you'll have to do.
The first thing I want to talk about is cleansing.
Once a week, you physically clean your house from top to bottom.
When you say to clean the house top to bottom,
you're talking about actually cleaning it, like washing and cleaning,
- mopping the floor, and vacuuming? - Yes. Yes. Yes.
With your situation, the cleansing is more for,
getting rid of the residual energy that's collected.
Mm-hmm.
Allan: When people experience intense trauma,
toxic residual energy can pile up in their environment like dust.
By cleaning the surfaces of her home,
Cara will wash these layers of negative energy away.
So, you clean the space out and then you're going to deal with this guy.
The way that I would suggest doing that is getting a physical medium in here.
And you're going to work with that person on,
visualizing him out of the house to move him out and on.
Exert your power, let him know who's boss.
After he's gone, am I gonna still feel him, that's the thing,
- or is it just gonna feel... - Oh, no.
Because you're gonna do this with the physical medium.
You're gonna be there 100% with your abilities, as well.
You're gonna get rid of him, so you're not gonna feel that anymore.
- What about the old lady? - She actually is here to try to help.
I mean, it's good for her to be here right now until he's gone.
She'll be taken care of, like, kind of inadvertently through this process.
And then the last thing is dealing with the PK manifestation,
that's, you know, upstairs in your closet.
What you want to do is a little bit of counseling,
just to work out those past issues.
So, you're taking it outside of the house to a person...
- Rather than in here. - Right.
And you're verbalizing it out to that therapist.
Will it ever go away?
Um, no.
I mean, it, very slowly over a very long period of time, could dissipate.
So as long as you keep it stunted, it's great.
What about this guy John Shannon?
Till this stuff gets resolved, are they gonna be all right?
Yes. You know your power over him.
And so you just need to start exerting that like nobody's business.
And also tell your children to do the same.
- So you're empowering them. - Mm hmm.
Well, Cara, you're gonna do what she tells you.
- Definitely, yes. - Okay.
Allan: I truly believe the PK manifestation poses a dangerous threat to Cara's family.
If she follows the steps I outlined, it will slowly dissolve,
and she and her two kids can live in their home in peace.
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