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I'm fascinated by the Viking mindset
and the Viking world.

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<i>I love digging into the raw</i>
<i>material and waiting for stories</i>

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<i>and characters to emerge.</i>

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Hail Earl Ragnar.

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<i>I'm not making a documentary,</i>
<i>but I do want authenticity.</i>

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And I want to get as
near to the truth as I can.

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Ragnar Lothbrok,
I've heard that name before.

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Hail Earl Ragnar!

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<i>Hail Earl Ragnar!</i>

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<i>Well, clearly I needed</i>
<i>a hero for the series.</i>

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<i>I needed a lead character.</i>

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And so I was looking for
an important Viking.

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<i>I was looking for a Viking</i>
<i>who made a difference.</i>

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<i>But with the Vikings, obviously,</i>

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<i>there is plenty of debate about
who is who and what was what</i>

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<i>and what happened,</i>

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because the Vikings
were a non-literate culture.

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they didn't write
anything down themselves.

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<i>This is a real cultural treasure,</i>

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<i>this manuscript.</i>

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<i>It's written around 1400.</i>

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<i>It was given as a</i>
<i>gift to the Danish King.</i>

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<i>What is special about</i>
<i>this manuscript is</i>

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<i>this is the only complete</i>
<i>manuscript of Ragnar saga</i>

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<i>that we have.</i>

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<i>The saga tells about Ragnar as</i>
<i>a young man going on raids</i>

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<i>and acting in wars,</i>
<i>what he has achieved,</i>

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<i>how many people he has killed,</i>

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how young he was when he
went to war for the first time.

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<i>And his fearlessness.</i>

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The historicity of Ragnar Lothbrok,

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did he exist or not,

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<i>is also one of the endearing puzzles
of Viking's culture.</i>

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<i>A big part of Ragnar's story is</i>
<i>the story of his sons</i>

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<i>and people like</i>
<i>Bjorn Ironside were real,</i>

40
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<i>they were absolutely real.</i>

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<i>We know this.</i>

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<i>We know of the things they did,
the adventures they had.</i>

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Your father is Ragnar Lothbrok.

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For so many known real Vikings to
have claimed the same person

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as their literal father, that's
not going back very far in time.

47
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<i>Your father is a person</i>
<i>that people would have met,</i>

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<i>that to me argues that</i>
<i>he has a basis in fact.</i>

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Ha!

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<i>Do I think Ragnar existed?</i>

51
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Yes, I think he did, but I don't
think that we are able to know

52
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<i>much for certain about him.</i>

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One of the central
characters in the TV series

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<i>is Lagertha, Ragnar's wife.</i>

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Ida, is your mother teaching
you how to use a shield?

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Yes, I know how to use a shield.

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Your mother
was a famous shield maiden.

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- Was?
- Is.

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<i>I discovered that there was a</i>
<i>certain amount of ambivalence</i>

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<i>in the books I was reading</i>
<i>about shield maidens,</i>

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<i>and whether they really existed.</i>

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Vikings society's
attitude towards women

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was far more enlightened than
the Francs or the Saxons.

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<i>You bear a strong</i>
<i>resemblance to my ex-wife.</i>

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<i>Women could own property,</i>
<i>divorce their husbands,</i>

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<i>fight, rule sometimes.</i>

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<i>It seemed perfectly logical,
therefore, that they had to fight.</i>

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<i>So, I was quite</i>
<i>determined, from the start,</i>

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<i>not only to have a</i>
<i>major female character,</i>

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who wasn't just
going to be a housewife,

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but to have women
fighting alongside men.

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Shield wall!

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<i>There was some pushback on that.</i>

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<i>There was some</i>
<i>resistance to that idea.</i>

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It's always been a source of
great controversy in Viking studies

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that is, whether these women,
these warrior women, were real

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<i>or a part of the mythology.</i>

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<i>These are great warrior</i>
<i>heroines doing brave things,</i>

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<i>and sacrificing themselves</i>
<i>for the sake of their lovers</i>

80
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<i>or taking power in their own right.</i>

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<i>The gods are always</i>
<i>smiling at brave women.</i>

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Like the Valkyries, those
furies who men fear and desire.

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I know that you prefer her
because she's a shield maiden,

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a warrior.

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<i>The classic image of</i>
<i>the shield maiden</i>

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is very much one that derives
from the written sources.

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<i>So these are after the Viking age.</i>

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<i>The key question is</i>
<i>how valid are they</i>

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<i>for the Viking age itself?</i>

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<i>And from those texts, quite frankly,</i>
<i>we can't really say.</i>

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<i>They might go back to real</i>
<i>living people who did this.</i>

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<i>They might be heroic embellishments.</i>

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<i>But the way to try and</i>
<i>nuance that picture,</i>

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<i>to go back to the real Viking age,</i>

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<i>is to look at the archeology.</i>

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<i>Now, we find a lot of these.</i>

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<i>They're all from the</i>
<i>late 9th and 10th century.</i>

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The design is of a figure on a horse,

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with a standing figure
in front of the horse.

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<i>And both of them</i>
<i>appear to be female.</i>

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<i>And the really</i>
<i>crucial thing about these</i>

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is that both of them are armed.

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<i>And just from these alone,</i>
<i>we can start to make tentative</i>

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<i>reconstructions of</i>
<i>what these kinds of figures</i>

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<i>would have looked like</i>
<i>if they were real.</i>

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<i>What does it mean?</i>

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<i>Because it quite clearly meant</i>
<i>something in the Viking age.</i>

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<i>The first thing that</i>
<i>we can say about this</i>

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<i>is that the idea of the armed women,</i>

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<i>is absolutely there
in the Viking mind.</i>

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<i>But that still doesn't tell us</i>

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<i>whether or not these</i>
<i>depict supernatural women</i>

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<i>or whether there really</i>
<i>were female warriors</i>

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<i>in the Viking age.</i>

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Now we come to another new find,

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that was actually dug
out of a block of frozen soil,

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in new year 2012.

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So a very recent find at a
place called Hornby in Denmark.

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And for the first time,
instead of these two dimensional,

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<i>flat pendants,</i>
<i>we find a three dimensional</i>

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<i>actual model of a warrior woman.</i>

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<i>She has the same facial</i>
<i>features of other pendants</i>

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<i>that we find with female faces.</i>

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She's holding a shield with the
same swirling patterns

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<i>that we find on these flat</i>
<i>ones, and a sword.</i>

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<i>What archeology is</i>
<i>now starting to show</i>

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<i>is that there are images of</i>
<i>armed women from the Viking age.</i>

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Shield wall!

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For a long time, we've known that
there are occasional finds

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of the burials of women
with weapons in the grave.

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But we haven't been finding what
we would call warrior burials of women.

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Until relatively recently,
when a grave from a site called Birka,

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<i>a grave excavated</i>
<i>actually in the 1870's,</i>

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so a long time ago,
absolutely packed with weapons.

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<i>We can see it here,</i>
<i>two shields, a sword,</i>

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<i>two spears, an ax,</i>
<i>a fighting knife.</i>

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And for a long time this has
been reconstructed in the books

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and exhibitions, as one of the
absolute classic warrior graves

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of the Viking age.

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Fine.

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But, recently, a team of osteologists,

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<i>these are archeologists
specializing in the study of bones,</i>

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<i>lead by a very talented</i>
<i>Stockholm researcher,</i>

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<i>called Anna Shelstrom,</i>

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<i>has been looking at</i>
<i>the skeleton from this grave.</i>

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And I'm sure you can
guess what I'm gonna say.

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It's the body of a woman.

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<i>So, this is a woman buried</i>
<i>with this massive collection of weapons,</i>

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<i>on the same basis as we</i>
<i>tend to interpret most graves.</i>

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<i>This would be the</i>
<i>burial of a shield maiden.</i>

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<i>When we take the two</i>
<i>dimensional figures,</i>

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<i>the new three dimensional</i>
<i>figures from Hornby,</i>

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and the grave from Birka,

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that adds up to a pretty
compelling picture

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<i>of what these warrior women</i>
<i>may actually have looked like.</i>

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<i>And the really important part of
this is that all these finds</i>

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<i>are from the Viking age itself.</i>

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<i>These are not from the literary
text world of the saga's.</i>

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<i>This is the Viking</i>
<i>age as it really was.</i>

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Shield wall!

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<i>I have to be clear that there's
a range of scholarly opinions on this.</i>

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But certainly I think it's quite probable

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that these women were real.

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Halt!

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<i>You must be the famous</i>
<i>shield maiden Lagertha.</i>

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<i>And they say that you are</i>
<i>now an earl in your own right.</i>

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<i>How did it happen?</i>

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I killed my husband
when he invaded me.

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<i>The great hall was central</i>
<i>to Viking society.</i>

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<i>I remember when this great hall
was always full of laughter.</i>

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<i>In some ways it's a</i>
<i>metaphorical place,</i>

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<i>and it's a symbolic place.</i>

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It's a metaphor for a lot of
the politics that goes on,

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<i>the conspiracy,</i>
<i>the murders, and these raids.</i>

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<i>And it's symbolic because, you know,</i>

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<i>it symbolizes a lot of Vikings values.</i>

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<i>It is our custom to</i>
<i>celebrate such an alliance</i>

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as the gods celebrated theirs.

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Skol!

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<i>We're feasting and with pledges.</i>

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Skol!

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<i>The bonds of loyalty,</i>
<i>of obligation, of hospitality,</i>

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<i>are the cement that holds</i>
<i>Viking society together.</i>

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And the great hall is the arena

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where all those things were
played out and displayed

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and spoken of and demonstrated.

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And here we are in Lejre,
where we have some

192
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of the largest Viking
age holes ever found.

193
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What we've just stepped into here

194
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<i>is truly a residence fit for a king.</i>

195
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Definitely.

196
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So, we're looking at what,
five meters of timber

197
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above us here?

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Yeah.

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<i>With roof supporting</i>
<i>posts in the middle.</i>

200
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<i>And these posts, they're</i>
<i>almost tree's aren't they?</i>

201
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<i>- Yep.</i>
- I mean they're huge things, like this...

202
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There probably would have been
a kind of partition wall here or something.

203
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<i>You don't walk</i>
<i>directly into the hall,</i>

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<i>which I think is very important
in these houses,</i>

205
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<i>also that they show that</i>
<i>access is controlled.</i>

206
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<i>The king had his</i>
<i>own seat in the hall.</i>

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- <i>The high seat.</i>
- <i>The high seat, yeah.</i>

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You would probably have
benches along the walls.

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I've probably just
walked through the fire.

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It's not very wise.

211
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<i>So you have a big</i>
<i>rectangular fireplace</i>

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<i>in the middle of the structure</i>

213
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<i>and this isn't just like a</i>
<i>small wood fire,</i>

214
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<i>these are big, big things.</i>

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We're talking about something
that would have been this wide

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and really long.

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A big blaze of light in the middle.

218
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<i>So the hall is the absolute</i>
<i>centre of Viking life.</i>

219
00:11:07,602 --> 00:11:10,671
Here we are
in a very wet and tough walk.

220
00:11:10,672 --> 00:11:12,673
<i>Can you tell me what</i>
<i>we're seeing here?</i>

221
00:11:12,674 --> 00:11:14,942
<i>Ya, I mean it might</i>
<i>not look like much,</i>

222
00:11:14,943 --> 00:11:18,312
<i>but we're right in the middle</i>
<i>of a huge Viking age settlement.</i>

223
00:11:18,313 --> 00:11:21,315
<i>It's going all the way up to</i>
<i>the green barn over there.</i>

224
00:11:21,316 --> 00:11:24,351
<i>There's a small dip where</i>
<i>the settlement stops,</i>

225
00:11:24,352 --> 00:11:27,354
<i>and it goes all the way</i>
<i>into the next field as well.</i>

226
00:11:27,355 --> 00:11:30,958
<i>This is not a culture that</i>
<i>left behind enormous monuments</i>

227
00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:33,727
<i>like The Coliseum or the Taj Mahal.</i>

228
00:11:33,728 --> 00:11:36,929
This is a culture that built in
wood, leather things like that.

229
00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:38,931
<i>And these are all things</i>
<i>that rot away.</i>

230
00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:42,034
<i>So our knowledge of the Vikings
comes from excavations</i>

231
00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,738
<i>of their settlements</i>
<i>and their graves.</i>

232
00:11:44,739 --> 00:11:48,140
So Anna, this is material from
your excavations at Toftegaard.

233
00:11:48,141 --> 00:11:49,308
<i>It is, it is.</i>

234
00:11:49,309 --> 00:11:50,910
<i>This is quite high end stuff.</i>

235
00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:53,179
<i>Not every family would</i>
<i>have had something like this.</i>

236
00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:55,228
You dip this into the pot

237
00:11:55,229 --> 00:11:56,682
<i>and bring out your</i>
<i>big chunk of meat.</i>

238
00:11:56,683 --> 00:11:59,451
It's finds like this that,
apart from anything else, tells us

239
00:11:59,452 --> 00:12:00,953
about the status of this place.

240
00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:02,721
Because, of course,
everybody has to eat,

241
00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:05,925
- but not using utensils like this.
- No, no, no, no.

242
00:12:05,926 --> 00:12:07,926
<i>So you can see how</i>
<i>finely made this is.</i>

243
00:12:07,927 --> 00:12:10,696
<i>You can see the traces of</i>
<i>decoration in the centre there.</i>

244
00:12:10,697 --> 00:12:11,697
<i>This twisted band.</i>

245
00:12:13,099 --> 00:12:14,533
The feast.

246
00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:18,404
<i>Feasting is a big component
as to what goes on in these buildings.</i>

247
00:12:18,405 --> 00:12:21,172
<i>You would receive the hospitality</i>
<i>of the lord of the hall.</i>

248
00:12:21,173 --> 00:12:22,574
Skol.

249
00:12:22,575 --> 00:12:24,709
<i>But, in return, you would</i>
<i>pledge a loyalty to him,</i>

250
00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:26,978
<i>either in terms of,</i>
<i>contributing to the upkeep</i>

251
00:12:26,979 --> 00:12:30,382
<i>of his community
or, more particularly, in war.</i>

252
00:12:30,383 --> 00:12:33,118
Now, who will be the first
to drink in celebration?

253
00:12:34,887 --> 00:12:36,221
<i>It's better without the bag.</i>

254
00:12:37,656 --> 00:12:39,157
<i>This is really interesting.</i>

255
00:12:39,158 --> 00:12:40,825
<i>Oh, wow!</i>

256
00:12:40,826 --> 00:12:42,527
- <i>Heavy, too.</i>
- <i>Ya!</i>

257
00:12:42,528 --> 00:12:44,094
It was guilded.

258
00:12:44,095 --> 00:12:47,598
<i>So this originally would have</i>
<i>been shiny and bright like gold.</i>

259
00:12:47,599 --> 00:12:51,803
<i>When we're talking about the halls,</i>
<i>they are very dim environments.</i>

260
00:12:51,804 --> 00:12:55,205
<i>They're lit by the fire,</i>
<i>and this kind of jewellery...</i>

261
00:12:55,206 --> 00:12:57,174
The firelight would reflect off it.

262
00:12:57,175 --> 00:13:00,477
<i>So people are walking about and
they'd shimmer as they moved.</i>

263
00:13:00,478 --> 00:13:03,013
I wanna show you this bit.

264
00:13:03,014 --> 00:13:05,015
<i>It might not look of much,</i>

265
00:13:05,016 --> 00:13:07,717
<i>but I think it tells an</i>
<i>interesting story.</i>

266
00:13:07,718 --> 00:13:11,255
<i>It's probably a rim of a</i>
<i>bowl and it's probably looted.</i>

267
00:13:11,256 --> 00:13:13,023
<i>We can see that, from the art,</i>

268
00:13:13,024 --> 00:13:14,858
<i>that it comes from</i>
<i>the British Isles.</i>

269
00:13:14,859 --> 00:13:17,427
<i>This is quite possibly</i>
<i>a monastic object,</i>

270
00:13:17,428 --> 00:13:19,262
<i>actually from the monastery.</i>

271
00:13:19,263 --> 00:13:21,297
And given the date of Toftegaard,

272
00:13:21,298 --> 00:13:23,633
which is the late 8th century.

273
00:13:23,634 --> 00:13:26,269
This is exactly the time of the raids

274
00:13:26,270 --> 00:13:28,638
on the British monasteries.

275
00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,073
So they're proper Vikings.

276
00:13:31,641 --> 00:13:33,309
<i>Don't mess with them, no.</i>

277
00:13:33,310 --> 00:13:35,445
<i>The lord would</i>
<i>redistribute that wealth.</i>

278
00:13:35,446 --> 00:13:38,214
<i>You know, you helped me with</i>
<i>this raid, here are rings</i>

279
00:13:38,215 --> 00:13:40,516
<i>and bullion and all kinds of loot.</i>

280
00:13:40,517 --> 00:13:43,953
<i>And that would also then trickle
down into the rest of society.</i>

281
00:13:43,954 --> 00:13:46,222
<i>This is also what</i>
<i>makes it a bit unstable,</i>

282
00:13:46,223 --> 00:13:47,422
<i>a little bit dangerous.</i>

283
00:13:47,423 --> 00:13:49,692
What a hoard is this.

284
00:13:49,693 --> 00:13:51,827
What a hoard it is!

285
00:13:51,828 --> 00:13:55,130
<i>And the earls, they only</i>
<i>existed and survived</i>

286
00:13:55,131 --> 00:13:57,900
as long as they provided for
their people, in other words,

287
00:13:57,901 --> 00:14:00,669
<i>as long as the raiding</i>
<i>parties were successful,</i>

288
00:14:00,670 --> 00:14:02,270
<i>as long as they were strong.</i>

289
00:14:02,271 --> 00:14:04,039
<i>If they weren't,
they were just disposed.</i>

290
00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,208
<i>It was just as simple as that.</i>

291
00:14:07,043 --> 00:14:10,145
The world is changing,
and we must change with it.

292
00:14:10,146 --> 00:14:14,016
<i>People are ambitious and they</i>
<i>like to go up the social scale.</i>

293
00:14:14,017 --> 00:14:17,785
<i>So it's a society that's in a</i>
<i>constant kind of tension.</i>

294
00:14:17,786 --> 00:14:19,721
<i>I've even heard some people say</i>

295
00:14:19,722 --> 00:14:23,525
that Earl Ragnar
is becoming like Earl Haraldson.

296
00:14:23,526 --> 00:14:25,960
People would rather
like to get up there,

297
00:14:25,961 --> 00:14:28,229
and the people up there
would rather they didn't.

298
00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:29,564
<i>But they still need them</i>

299
00:14:29,565 --> 00:14:31,566
<i>in order to maintain</i>
<i>their own position.</i>

300
00:14:34,269 --> 00:14:38,072
<i>And all of this is being acted</i>
<i>out in the space of the hall.</i>

301
00:14:38,073 --> 00:14:39,140
Ragnar Lothbrok.

302
00:14:46,151 --> 00:14:49,353
<i>Do you imagine ships</i>
<i>such as dead things?</i>

303
00:14:52,757 --> 00:14:54,858
We've blown miles off course.

304
00:14:54,859 --> 00:14:57,027
Who knows where we are.

305
00:14:57,028 --> 00:15:01,297
I joke about many things,
but never about ship building.

306
00:15:03,101 --> 00:15:06,870
It's my fault,
and the gods love my faults.

307
00:15:09,774 --> 00:15:14,044
<i>The ship is like the</i>
<i>symbol of the Viking age.</i>

308
00:15:14,045 --> 00:15:16,412
<i>It's amazing to me that nobody else</i>

309
00:15:16,413 --> 00:15:18,514
had boats anything like them.

310
00:15:18,515 --> 00:15:21,884
<i>The Saxons had no way of</i>
<i>protecting the coastlines</i>

311
00:15:21,885 --> 00:15:24,354
<i>or rivers from Vikings.</i>

312
00:15:26,549 --> 00:15:33,829
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313
00:15:34,678 --> 00:15:38,819
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314
00:15:39,970 --> 00:15:42,905
<i>One fantastic thing about</i>
<i>the Skuldelev ships</i>

315
00:15:42,906 --> 00:15:46,208
was that it represented
five different ship types.

316
00:15:48,211 --> 00:15:50,612
<i>Finding these fantastic</i>
<i>Skuldelev ships</i>

317
00:15:50,613 --> 00:15:54,015
<i>allowed us to build reconstructions</i>

318
00:15:54,016 --> 00:15:57,085
and then we could do
experimental archeology

319
00:15:57,086 --> 00:15:59,154
by building them, by sailing it.

320
00:16:00,498 --> 00:16:05,141
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321
00:16:05,427 --> 00:16:08,029
<i>I've just noticed</i>
<i>some of the repairs.</i>

322
00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:10,098
<i>There is actually one right here.</i>

323
00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:13,634
It's a bit difficult to see from
the outside, but we can try it.

324
00:16:13,635 --> 00:16:15,136
Here you can see the plank.

325
00:16:15,137 --> 00:16:16,905
It's one plank put
into another plank.

326
00:16:16,906 --> 00:16:18,572
<i>There is a new overlap here.</i>

327
00:16:18,573 --> 00:16:20,875
<i>That is exactly how</i>
<i>we do our repairs.</i>

328
00:16:23,745 --> 00:16:26,280
<i>I can tell which trees would</i>
<i>make the best planks</i>

329
00:16:26,281 --> 00:16:28,582
<i>just by looking at them.</i>

330
00:16:28,583 --> 00:16:32,320
I can look inside the tree.

331
00:16:32,321 --> 00:16:33,321
This is one.

332
00:16:35,155 --> 00:16:40,393
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333
00:16:40,394 --> 00:16:43,163
<i>When you cleave a plank out,</i>
<i>you make it very strong</i>

334
00:16:43,164 --> 00:16:45,465
<i>because you follow the</i>
<i>grain in the tree.</i>

335
00:16:45,466 --> 00:16:47,234
<i>And that's the</i>
<i>problem with the saw,</i>

336
00:16:47,235 --> 00:16:48,869
<i>it would just cut straight.</i>

337
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:51,571
<i>So it would cut all</i>
<i>the fibers in the tree</i>

338
00:16:51,572 --> 00:16:53,440
and that's not only the planks,

339
00:16:53,441 --> 00:16:55,975
that's also all the curved pieces.

340
00:16:55,976 --> 00:16:59,379
<i>You have to go into the forest,
find the right piece of curve.</i>

341
00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:00,913
<i>You're not cutting over the fibers</i>

342
00:17:00,914 --> 00:17:03,249
<i>if you have the right</i>
<i>shape of piece.</i>

343
00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:05,552
<i>That's why it's so</i>
<i>important for boat builders</i>

344
00:17:05,553 --> 00:17:08,988
if they find the right piece
in the forest of an oak tree,

345
00:17:08,989 --> 00:17:10,757
you have to bring it home.

346
00:17:10,758 --> 00:17:15,051
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347
00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,654
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348
00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:22,049
__

349
00:17:22,050 --> 00:17:26,271
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350
00:17:26,272 --> 00:17:27,873
<i>The advantages of</i>
<i>clinker build is that</i>

351
00:17:27,874 --> 00:17:30,709
<i>the two planks,</i>
<i>when they overlap,</i>

352
00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:34,279
then the overlap it's
kind of a strength itself.

353
00:17:35,282 --> 00:17:38,650
<i>It's not stiff,</i>
<i>the result is flexibility.</i>

354
00:17:38,651 --> 00:17:40,886
<i>And if you think
like in your modern head,</i>

355
00:17:40,887 --> 00:17:43,188
that you have to
build strong and stiff,

356
00:17:43,189 --> 00:17:45,257
it will break when
you're going into sea.

357
00:17:46,525 --> 00:17:49,527
<i>This means the boat won't butt</i>
<i>against the waves like a goat,</i>

358
00:17:49,528 --> 00:17:51,539
<i>but move over them like a ripple.</i>

359
00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:54,042
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360
00:17:55,129 --> 00:18:00,415
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361
00:18:04,890 --> 00:18:09,366
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362
00:18:13,741 --> 00:18:18,923
__

363
00:18:18,924 --> 00:18:21,076
__

364
00:18:21,077 --> 00:18:26,180
__

365
00:18:26,831 --> 00:18:30,434
<i>It's not as if we can experience
exactly the same things</i>

366
00:18:30,435 --> 00:18:33,037
<i>as the Vikings did,
but you get an idea.</i>

367
00:18:33,038 --> 00:18:36,807
And that is how we use
experiments here at the museum,

368
00:18:36,808 --> 00:18:38,809
<i>because you go out and you</i>
<i>get an impression</i>

369
00:18:38,810 --> 00:18:41,311
<i>of what it is like</i>
<i>being on board the ship,</i>

370
00:18:41,312 --> 00:18:43,547
<i>instead of, you know,</i>
<i>sitting behind a desk</i>

371
00:18:43,548 --> 00:18:44,915
<i>and just reading about it.</i>

372
00:18:54,637 --> 00:18:56,905
<i>When I was on board</i>
<i>as a crew member</i>

373
00:18:56,906 --> 00:18:58,473
I functioned as a mid-ship man,

374
00:18:58,474 --> 00:19:01,476
which means I was located here
in the middle of the ship,

375
00:19:01,477 --> 00:19:02,644
around the mast.

376
00:19:02,645 --> 00:19:04,112
<i>What I experienced there was that</i>

377
00:19:04,113 --> 00:19:06,447
<i>I tried to get an idea of</i>
<i>the special conditions</i>

378
00:19:06,448 --> 00:19:09,717
<i>of being on board such a long</i>
<i>and narrow ship as this is.</i>

379
00:19:09,718 --> 00:19:10,884
Crewed with 60 people.

380
00:19:10,885 --> 00:19:12,720
This is where you would
have the helmsman,

381
00:19:12,721 --> 00:19:16,357
and you would have
the skipper or the captain in that sense.

382
00:19:16,358 --> 00:19:19,360
The crew see's it here,
would work with the sheets,

383
00:19:19,361 --> 00:19:21,500
<i>controlling the sheets of the sail.</i>

384
00:19:22,998 --> 00:19:26,634
In front of the ship, the very front,
you have the lookout.

385
00:19:26,635 --> 00:19:29,103
Which has a very
important function on the ship.

386
00:19:29,104 --> 00:19:30,704
Hoist sails!

387
00:19:30,705 --> 00:19:32,806
You can imagine 60 people here

388
00:19:32,807 --> 00:19:35,009
<i>in this very long and narrow ship.</i>

389
00:19:35,010 --> 00:19:37,377
And you would have
a big square sail.

390
00:19:37,378 --> 00:19:39,912
And you would have
the elements out there

391
00:19:39,913 --> 00:19:41,581
when you're sailing the ship.

392
00:19:41,582 --> 00:19:45,485
<i>Then it's basically impossible</i>
<i>for the lookout here to shout</i>

393
00:19:45,486 --> 00:19:47,754
all the way to the aft of the ship.

394
00:19:47,755 --> 00:19:49,189
Jump ship!

395
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:52,159
<i>And the way that it has been</i>
<i>solved when we are sailing</i>

396
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,062
with the Sea Stallion,
is that we have used a middle man.

397
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:02,501
By direct orders from the
skipper and the helmsman,

398
00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:05,141
which need to be
known by the whole crew.

399
00:20:06,674 --> 00:20:08,520
Sail down!

400
00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:12,944
<i>The whole experience</i>
<i>of being on board,</i>

401
00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:14,764
<i>being able to be</i>
<i>a part of that crew...</i>

402
00:20:14,765 --> 00:20:16,057
Heave!

403
00:20:16,058 --> 00:20:21,561
...trains you into becoming
sort of a very coherent military unit.

404
00:20:22,289 --> 00:20:26,292
<i>So, my theory is that being</i>
<i>on board these ships</i>

405
00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:29,661
<i>could be seen as a training camp.</i>

406
00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,763
<i>The ships are shaping the crew.</i>

407
00:20:33,532 --> 00:20:35,300
<i>It might be part of the success</i>

408
00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:37,869
<i>that the Viking has in</i>
<i>the military of raiding,</i>

409
00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:40,772
<i>was basically that they were sailing</i>
<i>on board these ships.</i>

410
00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,643
This is a place of God!

411
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:48,913
<i>Viking raiders were very</i>
<i>real and very bad indeed.</i>

412
00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:50,415
There should be treasure.

413
00:20:52,318 --> 00:20:55,986
<i>But that's very much a tiny</i>
<i>fraction of the whole picture.</i>

414
00:20:55,987 --> 00:20:59,357
Proper Vikings, real Vikings
they're quite special people.

415
00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:00,758
<i>Quite unusual people.</i>

416
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,160
So this is very much
the top end of the scale,

417
00:21:03,161 --> 00:21:05,662
<i>but, when you go down to the</i>
<i>ordinary farmers building,</i>

418
00:21:05,663 --> 00:21:08,199
it's the same traditions of hospitality,

419
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,268
and the importance of
the hearth and the home,

420
00:21:11,269 --> 00:21:13,104
<i>but just at a different scale.</i>

421
00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,672
To friends and freedom!

422
00:21:15,673 --> 00:21:19,976
<i>The characters break the</i>
<i>mold of historical truths.</i>

423
00:21:19,977 --> 00:21:23,012
<i>I like that sense of getting a</i>
<i>character who clambers</i>

424
00:21:23,013 --> 00:21:26,783
out of the coffin of historical
necessity and starts to be real.

425
00:21:26,784 --> 00:21:28,852
<i>And starts to be plausible.</i>

426
00:21:28,853 --> 00:21:33,022
<i>It's the way into the Viking</i>
<i>mindset and the Viking world.</i>

427
00:21:33,805 --> 00:21:36,157
<i>Hail Earl Ragnar!</i>

428
00:21:38,146 --> 00:21:40,225
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