1 00:00:02,924 --> 00:00:05,393 Rolling in five... four... three... 2 00:00:05,427 --> 00:00:07,225 Through self-expression, 3 00:00:07,226 --> 00:00:10,097 art therapy can often bring prisoners together 4 00:00:10,115 --> 00:00:11,365 as a community. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,050 However, there are some inmates who are pariahs, 6 00:00:15,051 --> 00:00:16,537 even in the prison... 7 00:00:18,207 --> 00:00:22,126 having to be kept isolated for their own safety. 8 00:00:22,161 --> 00:00:25,329 All prisoners return to cell block in ten minutes. 9 00:00:35,340 --> 00:00:37,825 Hacks can't protect your ass forever, Cho-mo. 10 00:00:55,338 --> 00:00:57,339 White rapper... Let's get this. 11 00:01:18,352 --> 00:01:20,743 N... no, I don't know when we'll wrap, sweetheart. 12 00:01:23,305 --> 00:01:24,639 I'll just, uh, 13 00:01:24,673 --> 00:01:27,675 I'll pick up some food on the way home. 14 00:01:27,693 --> 00:01:29,727 Okay. 15 00:01:35,684 --> 00:01:37,685 Hey. 16 00:01:40,205 --> 00:01:42,523 Yeah? 17 00:01:42,541 --> 00:01:44,041 Are you new? 18 00:01:47,462 --> 00:01:49,029 Yeah. 19 00:01:49,047 --> 00:01:50,381 Grip truck's right here. 20 00:01:50,415 --> 00:01:52,550 Sorry. 21 00:01:52,584 --> 00:01:53,918 Here. 22 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,918 Being pulled out. 23 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:28,419 I've got visitation today. 24 00:02:28,503 --> 00:02:29,870 I'm not going anywhere. 25 00:02:29,904 --> 00:02:31,238 You've been waiting 40 minutes already. 26 00:02:31,256 --> 00:02:32,173 No one's coming. 27 00:02:32,392 --> 00:02:33,507 Hey. 28 00:02:33,542 --> 00:02:34,759 The work release van is outside. 29 00:02:34,793 --> 00:02:36,344 You can go there or to the hole... 30 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,346 your choice. 31 00:02:44,019 --> 00:02:45,970 So, Erica or Julianne? 32 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:50,090 Which one for a little bippity-bop? 33 00:02:50,108 --> 00:02:52,143 Me, I'd go with Julianne 'cause it's the quiet ones 34 00:02:52,194 --> 00:02:55,095 that get freaky-deaky on your ass. 35 00:02:55,113 --> 00:02:56,647 Well, one, she's not quiet, 36 00:02:56,698 --> 00:02:58,666 she's afflicted with acute laconic conveyance disorder, 37 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:00,401 among other things, and two, 38 00:03:00,435 --> 00:03:01,602 don't talk about her like that. 39 00:03:01,620 --> 00:03:05,019 Oh, snap, you dig Julianne. 40 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:06,157 Dig? What, are we in third grade, Shea? 41 00:03:06,208 --> 00:03:08,659 Dig her like a shovel. 42 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:10,244 If you must know, I feel 43 00:03:10,278 --> 00:03:12,129 - for her psychiatric condition, okay? - Hmm. 44 00:03:12,164 --> 00:03:14,582 - It's called doctor-patient empathy. - Nah, it's called 45 00:03:14,616 --> 00:03:15,666 "you want to tap that booty." 46 00:03:15,717 --> 00:03:18,085 Make a move, doctor. 47 00:03:18,119 --> 00:03:21,389 If she's that crazy, she might say yes. 48 00:03:21,423 --> 00:03:23,758 - Philistine. - Pussy. 49 00:03:23,792 --> 00:03:25,343 Hey, every minute counts, sweetheart, 50 00:03:25,394 --> 00:03:27,678 and I don't want to lose a month off my bid 51 00:03:27,729 --> 00:03:29,230 'cause you don't move fast enough. 52 00:03:29,264 --> 00:03:30,681 You know, a hearty breakfast can really help you start 53 00:03:30,732 --> 00:03:32,817 the day off right... ouch! 54 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:46,061 You're late. 55 00:03:46,062 --> 00:03:47,147 We have donuts? 56 00:03:47,165 --> 00:03:48,616 It's not our fault sweet ass took 57 00:03:48,650 --> 00:03:50,251 - her sweet-ass time. - Erica, 58 00:03:50,285 --> 00:03:52,420 if you can't be on time, you can't do this job. 59 00:03:52,454 --> 00:03:54,372 Understood? 60 00:03:56,686 --> 00:03:57,675 Something to say? 61 00:03:59,830 --> 00:04:01,095 No. 62 00:04:01,129 --> 00:04:02,329 Okay, good. 63 00:04:02,347 --> 00:04:03,631 Uh, agency put extra bodies 64 00:04:03,665 --> 00:04:04,715 on the Internet child protective services, 65 00:04:04,766 --> 00:04:06,384 in case our runner jumps online. 66 00:04:06,435 --> 00:04:09,020 Child protective service? Who we going after? 67 00:04:09,054 --> 00:04:10,855 Joseph Ramsey, sex offender. 68 00:04:10,889 --> 00:04:12,356 - How many victims? - Five. 69 00:04:12,391 --> 00:04:14,023 All eight-year-old girls. 70 00:04:14,057 --> 00:04:16,108 He's pathological... it means his actions 71 00:04:16,143 --> 00:04:18,194 are driven by an uncontrollable mental condition. 72 00:04:18,228 --> 00:04:20,029 I know what "pathological" means. 73 00:04:20,063 --> 00:04:21,063 Well, now you do, thanks to me. 74 00:04:21,114 --> 00:04:22,531 This guy's smart. 75 00:04:22,566 --> 00:04:24,450 Walked right out of the prison's front door. 76 00:04:24,484 --> 00:04:27,019 Hours passed before anybody realized he was gone. 77 00:04:27,037 --> 00:04:28,621 Ramsey's a serial predator who's left 78 00:04:28,655 --> 00:04:30,489 a trail of damaged kids in his wake. 79 00:04:30,523 --> 00:04:34,794 If we don't get to him fast, he'll do it again. 80 00:04:54,194 --> 00:04:59,194 Breakout Kings 1x04 - Out of the Mouths of Babes Original air date March 27, 2011 81 00:04:59,194 --> 00:05:09,194 Sync by YYeTs, corrected by atrn97g www.addic7ed.com 82 00:05:10,897 --> 00:05:13,366 Ramsey was doing a 60-year stretch. 83 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,633 Surprised he lasted two years inside. 84 00:05:15,634 --> 00:05:17,203 Cho-mos are piñatas in the joint. 85 00:05:17,237 --> 00:05:18,587 Married, two kids, well-liked 86 00:05:18,622 --> 00:05:20,739 school counselor from suburban Massachusetts 87 00:05:20,757 --> 00:05:22,258 until five girls came forward. 88 00:05:22,292 --> 00:05:24,260 His wife left him after his arrest. 89 00:05:24,294 --> 00:05:25,711 The local PD already talked to her, 90 00:05:25,745 --> 00:05:27,179 but she has no idea where he could be. 91 00:05:27,214 --> 00:05:29,298 He refused counseling. 92 00:05:29,349 --> 00:05:30,916 That's not uncommon, really. 93 00:05:30,934 --> 00:05:32,435 A lot of pedophiles believe they aren't even sick, 94 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:33,919 just misunderstood. 95 00:05:33,937 --> 00:05:36,305 It's a self-protective mechanism. 96 00:05:36,356 --> 00:05:38,424 You seem to know a lot about kid touchers, Lloyd. 97 00:05:38,442 --> 00:05:41,110 Creepy-looking cracker, lives at home with his mother, 98 00:05:41,144 --> 00:05:42,395 probably never had sex before. 99 00:05:42,429 --> 00:05:45,698 Oh, I have sexed several times. 100 00:05:45,732 --> 00:05:46,899 I still want to know 101 00:05:46,933 --> 00:05:48,434 how a guy like this gets 25 years, 102 00:05:48,452 --> 00:05:49,819 right? 103 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:51,287 I mean, that's more than I got. 104 00:05:51,321 --> 00:05:52,604 You a diaper sniper, Lowery? 105 00:05:52,622 --> 00:05:54,123 End it, Shea. 106 00:05:54,157 --> 00:05:55,607 'Cause I ain't working with no perverts. 107 00:05:55,625 --> 00:05:58,494 Hey, private business stays private. 108 00:05:58,545 --> 00:06:00,129 If you think we would let anybody on this team 109 00:06:00,163 --> 00:06:03,416 like that, you're dumber than you look. 110 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:04,717 Still going to find out what you did. 111 00:06:04,751 --> 00:06:07,303 Is everybody done, hmm? 112 00:06:07,337 --> 00:06:08,637 Can we actually start earning 113 00:06:08,672 --> 00:06:10,622 some time off now? 114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,475 What you got? 115 00:06:12,509 --> 00:06:13,676 Joe's legal briefs. 116 00:06:13,727 --> 00:06:16,295 He was filing them left and right in prison. 117 00:06:16,313 --> 00:06:19,398 Went from a $200-an-hour attorney to a public defender 118 00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:22,634 and then finally bottomed out at a jailhouse lawyer. 119 00:06:22,652 --> 00:06:23,869 Didn't do him any good, though. 120 00:06:23,904 --> 00:06:25,321 He lost his final appeal a few weeks ago. 121 00:06:25,355 --> 00:06:27,106 Well, that's probably what set him off. 122 00:06:27,140 --> 00:06:28,741 Realized he wasn't going to get out. 123 00:06:28,775 --> 00:06:30,242 Jailhouse lawyer was a con named Wes Herman. 124 00:06:30,277 --> 00:06:31,744 I mean, these guys had to spend 125 00:06:31,778 --> 00:06:33,446 a lot of time together preparing these papers. 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,614 Cons talk to cons, he might have known 127 00:06:35,648 --> 00:06:37,727 about the escape and what Joe was gonna do when he got out. 128 00:06:37,728 --> 00:06:39,668 Wes Herman was paroled six months ago. 129 00:06:39,703 --> 00:06:41,547 In for the same crimes as Joe Ramsey. 130 00:06:41,548 --> 00:06:42,505 He lives in the Bronx now. 131 00:06:42,539 --> 00:06:44,290 I'm calling his parole officer. 132 00:06:44,324 --> 00:06:46,959 Tell his P.O. I want Herman here within the hour. 133 00:06:46,993 --> 00:06:49,011 There's no telling what this guy is up to. 134 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,383 Charlotte. 135 00:07:10,033 --> 00:07:11,951 Come on, honey, let's go. 136 00:07:14,039 --> 00:07:14,904 Hey, it's me. 137 00:07:16,356 --> 00:07:19,575 Can I, uh, can I talk to her? 138 00:07:22,662 --> 00:07:24,363 Well, can you pause it? 139 00:07:24,381 --> 00:07:26,499 Danny, we were supposed to have a visit today, okay? 140 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:31,253 I... I have the right to see my kid. 141 00:07:31,304 --> 00:07:36,041 No, D... Danny, please. 142 00:07:36,059 --> 00:07:38,644 Danny, please, you are just doing this to try to hurt... 143 00:07:46,856 --> 00:07:48,267 I know what you all think of me. 144 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:49,822 What do you think we think... 145 00:07:49,856 --> 00:07:52,074 - that your favorite porno's home alone? - Shut up. 146 00:07:52,109 --> 00:07:54,560 That's okay, I deserve any ridicule. 147 00:07:54,611 --> 00:07:56,562 I'm, I'm sick, I have a disease. 148 00:07:56,580 --> 00:07:57,830 Actually, cancer is a disease. 149 00:07:57,864 --> 00:07:59,248 You have a psychosexual disorder 150 00:07:59,282 --> 00:08:02,334 that manifests itself in deviant behavior, 151 00:08:02,369 --> 00:08:04,620 so in short, you are disgusting. 152 00:08:05,323 --> 00:08:07,406 You know, this was a mistake. I should go. 153 00:08:07,424 --> 00:08:09,758 No, you know what? You are gonna sit your ass down, 154 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:11,010 - molester, and you're going to answer... - Erica. 155 00:08:11,044 --> 00:08:11,961 - all of our questions. - Erica! 156 00:08:12,012 --> 00:08:14,046 - What, Charlie? - Let's go. 157 00:08:19,419 --> 00:08:21,437 Mr. Herman, you worked closely on Joe's appeals. 158 00:08:21,471 --> 00:08:22,688 Yes, but I wish I hadn't. 159 00:08:22,722 --> 00:08:24,089 Why is that? 160 00:08:24,107 --> 00:08:26,592 Because I'm trying to get better. 161 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:27,943 Since I was released, 162 00:08:27,978 --> 00:08:30,146 I go to state-sponsored counseling, private therapy 163 00:08:30,197 --> 00:08:32,598 out of my own pocket. I have gotten off of buses 164 00:08:32,616 --> 00:08:34,766 ten blocks from home because there is a kid 165 00:08:34,784 --> 00:08:36,785 across the aisle from me. 166 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:38,454 We don't have the right to hold this guy, 167 00:08:38,488 --> 00:08:40,105 we need him to cooperate, and you're pushing him around? 168 00:08:40,123 --> 00:08:41,407 He's an animal, he hurts kids. 169 00:08:41,441 --> 00:08:42,575 Listen, you promised me 170 00:08:42,609 --> 00:08:44,126 you were going to keep your cool, Erica, 171 00:08:44,161 --> 00:08:47,329 and since this morning, you came in here like gas on fire. 172 00:08:48,649 --> 00:08:50,549 Okay, look, if you really need to know, I had 173 00:08:50,584 --> 00:08:52,635 a visitation today, and my daughter's father will not 174 00:08:52,669 --> 00:08:54,086 let me see her, and I just... 175 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,312 O... okay, okay, you've got personal issues, 176 00:08:56,313 --> 00:08:57,136 but guess what. 177 00:08:57,137 --> 00:08:58,957 Take a number, we all do. 178 00:08:58,975 --> 00:08:59,975 Bury that stuff deep down inside 179 00:09:00,010 --> 00:09:02,728 'cause we have a job to do. 180 00:09:02,762 --> 00:09:04,964 What does this have to do with Ramsey? 181 00:09:04,981 --> 00:09:06,432 I know I have problems. 182 00:09:07,096 --> 00:09:08,967 Joe never owned up to his. 183 00:09:08,985 --> 00:09:13,606 He was full of hate and anger, and he rarely talked, 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,608 and when he did, it was always 185 00:09:15,642 --> 00:09:17,994 about the first girl who turned him in. 186 00:09:17,995 --> 00:09:18,861 He was obsessed with her. 187 00:09:18,912 --> 00:09:21,113 I... I... I think he... he'd hurt her. 188 00:09:21,147 --> 00:09:22,781 - Tess Samuels? - That's the name. 189 00:09:22,815 --> 00:09:24,283 I am ashamed 190 00:09:24,317 --> 00:09:26,919 I ever helped Joe with his appeals. 191 00:09:26,953 --> 00:09:29,505 Thanks for coming in. 192 00:09:37,013 --> 00:09:39,098 I'm better now. 193 00:09:43,056 --> 00:09:44,103 No, you're not. 194 00:09:44,137 --> 00:09:45,888 Let's go. 195 00:10:25,693 --> 00:10:27,111 Are you Ms. Cates? 196 00:10:27,145 --> 00:10:28,529 Yes, I'm the assistant principal. 197 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:30,330 Charlie Duchamp, U.S. Marshals. 198 00:10:30,365 --> 00:10:33,052 Hi, we still haven't been able to get in touch 199 00:10:33,053 --> 00:10:34,524 with Tess' parents, 200 00:10:34,525 --> 00:10:36,749 but I can answer any questions about Joe Ramsey. 201 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:38,302 We worked together for some time. 202 00:10:38,589 --> 00:10:39,656 I appreciate that. 203 00:10:51,669 --> 00:10:53,270 Charlie, run! 204 00:10:53,304 --> 00:10:54,671 We'll cut him off! 205 00:11:37,715 --> 00:11:40,050 Hey, Erica, you don't make the choice when to run. 206 00:11:40,068 --> 00:11:41,819 I don't hear from you in five minutes, 207 00:11:41,853 --> 00:11:43,520 I put an alarm out on your ass. 208 00:11:43,554 --> 00:11:44,822 Couldn't keep up with Erica? 209 00:11:44,856 --> 00:11:46,607 - She's fast. - You're slow. 210 00:11:46,658 --> 00:11:48,558 Charlie's asking for a satellite map 211 00:11:48,576 --> 00:11:50,410 of the woods behind the school. 212 00:11:50,445 --> 00:11:52,279 That's all protected state land. 213 00:11:52,330 --> 00:11:53,563 It's hundreds of acres. 214 00:11:53,581 --> 00:11:54,998 It's okay. 215 00:11:55,033 --> 00:11:56,834 I know Tess can help us find him. 216 00:12:03,739 --> 00:12:07,244 Hey, Tess, I'm Charlie. 217 00:12:07,262 --> 00:12:09,246 Tess, I'm going to ask you some questions. 218 00:12:09,264 --> 00:12:11,431 I promise they're not gonna be hard questions 219 00:12:11,466 --> 00:12:14,468 like a test or anything. They're gonna be easy. 220 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:16,470 I really think we should wait until her parents get here. 221 00:12:16,521 --> 00:12:18,021 We just don't have the time, Ms. Cates. 222 00:12:18,056 --> 00:12:20,357 At this point, every second counts. 223 00:12:20,391 --> 00:12:23,560 Tess, when you saw Mr. Ramsey, 224 00:12:23,595 --> 00:12:25,445 were his clothes torn? 225 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,030 Did... did he appear hurt 226 00:12:27,065 --> 00:12:30,450 in any way? Just something that can help people notice him? 227 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:34,404 - Ms. Samuels? - Yes. 228 00:12:34,438 --> 00:12:35,939 Hi. Uh, Charlie Duchamp. 229 00:12:35,957 --> 00:12:37,875 - U.S. Marshals. - Tess's dad. 230 00:12:37,909 --> 00:12:39,409 Hi. 231 00:12:39,443 --> 00:12:40,744 Honey, did he say anything to you? 232 00:12:40,778 --> 00:12:42,279 Map's up. 233 00:12:42,313 --> 00:12:43,780 Local cops scouring the woods. 234 00:12:43,798 --> 00:12:45,949 - He could be anywhere. - Yeah, so can Erica. 235 00:12:45,967 --> 00:12:49,803 Is she okay? 236 00:12:49,837 --> 00:12:51,672 Self-mutilation. Sign of self-hatred. 237 00:12:51,723 --> 00:12:53,307 Victims blame themselves. 238 00:12:53,341 --> 00:12:55,309 It'll get much worse as she gets older. 239 00:12:55,343 --> 00:12:57,728 Ramsey really did a number on this kid. 240 00:13:05,761 --> 00:13:06,436 Hey. 241 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:08,572 - Where are you? - Beats the hell out of me. 242 00:13:08,606 --> 00:13:10,807 Four or five miles from the school, maybe. 243 00:13:10,825 --> 00:13:12,526 When I call you, you answer! 244 00:13:12,577 --> 00:13:14,661 I'm in the middle of the freakin' woods, Ray. Okay, 245 00:13:14,696 --> 00:13:16,980 I've got like one bar on this thing, and if I was gonna run, 246 00:13:16,998 --> 00:13:18,481 I wouldn't be answering, would I? 247 00:13:18,499 --> 00:13:21,001 Now get off my back! 248 00:13:21,035 --> 00:13:22,753 Who do you think you're talking to? 249 00:13:22,787 --> 00:13:24,871 You don't freelance, you hear what I'm saying? 250 00:13:24,923 --> 00:13:27,291 You do what Charlie and I say when we say it. 251 00:13:27,325 --> 00:13:30,043 I see footprints in the mud. 252 00:13:30,094 --> 00:13:31,661 Erica? 253 00:13:32,383 --> 00:13:33,380 You there? 254 00:13:34,632 --> 00:13:36,300 Erica! 255 00:13:36,334 --> 00:13:38,352 Shut up. I know where he is. 256 00:13:44,312 --> 00:13:45,525 We have a location. 257 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:47,694 Ramsey's in a house on Lefferts drive. 258 00:13:47,729 --> 00:13:50,697 Lefferts. His wife's house is on that street. 259 00:13:50,732 --> 00:13:52,849 Let's go. 260 00:13:52,867 --> 00:13:54,318 Tess, I promise you, 261 00:13:54,352 --> 00:13:56,870 I will not let that man come near you again. 262 00:13:59,324 --> 00:14:01,325 Hey, when you catch this animal, 263 00:14:01,359 --> 00:14:03,693 do the world a favor and kill him. 264 00:14:20,094 --> 00:14:22,545 He's gone. 265 00:14:26,493 --> 00:14:29,019 I turned around, and there he was in my kitchen. 266 00:14:30,207 --> 00:14:32,072 I thought he was going to kill me. 267 00:14:32,106 --> 00:14:34,491 - He gave you no idea where he was going? - No. 268 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:38,695 He went through my purse, took what little cash I had. 269 00:14:43,571 --> 00:14:44,584 Here you go, ma'am. 270 00:14:45,379 --> 00:14:47,671 Thank you. 271 00:14:47,705 --> 00:14:49,039 These the kids? 272 00:14:49,073 --> 00:14:50,841 Yeah. Joe used to vacation there 273 00:14:50,875 --> 00:14:52,742 every summer when he was a boy, 274 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,761 and then we took our children. 275 00:14:54,796 --> 00:14:56,380 And the hand on your kid's shoulder... 276 00:14:56,414 --> 00:14:57,764 I assume that's her father? 277 00:14:57,799 --> 00:15:00,100 You know, at first I didn't want to believe 278 00:15:00,134 --> 00:15:01,802 what everybody was saying about him, 279 00:15:02,888 --> 00:15:05,389 but you can only keep your head in the sand for so long. 280 00:15:05,423 --> 00:15:07,424 I cut him out of our lives 281 00:15:07,442 --> 00:15:08,975 and our photographs. 282 00:15:09,027 --> 00:15:10,477 - Where are the children now? - They're safe. 283 00:15:10,528 --> 00:15:12,112 I enrolled them in school two counties over. 284 00:15:12,146 --> 00:15:14,531 - I didn't have a choice. - Just to be safe, 285 00:15:14,565 --> 00:15:17,117 until we apprehend him, is there someplace you can go? 286 00:15:17,151 --> 00:15:18,735 My parents live in Pittsburgh. 287 00:15:19,369 --> 00:15:21,038 We could go there. 288 00:15:23,441 --> 00:15:26,476 Those children weren't the only victims. 289 00:15:33,156 --> 00:15:34,584 He would have gotten her off that playground, 290 00:15:34,618 --> 00:15:35,919 he would have killed her. 291 00:15:36,812 --> 00:15:37,804 It was too close. 292 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:39,256 Hey, listen, we couldn't have known 293 00:15:39,290 --> 00:15:41,174 he would actually go after her like that. 294 00:15:41,225 --> 00:15:42,642 These perverts are normally little worms 295 00:15:42,677 --> 00:15:44,127 who don't come out during the daylight. 296 00:15:44,145 --> 00:15:45,679 Am I wrong, Lowery? 297 00:15:45,730 --> 00:15:47,564 While your technical assessment of them 298 00:15:47,598 --> 00:15:50,100 normally being "worms" is difficult to improve upon... 299 00:15:50,134 --> 00:15:51,742 - Don't be a wise ass. - I may be 300 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:54,404 able to give a bit more insight into Mr. Ramsey. 301 00:15:54,439 --> 00:15:56,973 Uh, you guys, our fugitive is actually 302 00:15:56,991 --> 00:15:58,658 an incredible case study. 303 00:15:58,693 --> 00:16:01,311 Now, there is a common pathology to pedophiles that, 304 00:16:01,329 --> 00:16:03,280 though not intractable, does serve as a template 305 00:16:03,314 --> 00:16:04,865 from which we can draw conclusions. 306 00:16:04,916 --> 00:16:06,450 Look at Joe's abuse progression. 307 00:16:06,484 --> 00:16:08,168 First victim: mere exposure. 308 00:16:08,202 --> 00:16:09,986 - Second victim: petting. - Hey, man, c'mon, c'mon! 309 00:16:10,004 --> 00:16:12,655 Just... third victim: first time clothing is removed. 310 00:16:12,673 --> 00:16:14,674 - All right, enough! - Just hang on. I'm trying to make a point. 311 00:16:14,709 --> 00:16:15,633 - Now, the next victim... - Christ, 312 00:16:15,634 --> 00:16:16,826 Lloyd, would you just shut the hell up?! 313 00:16:16,844 --> 00:16:19,312 These are little girls, okay? 314 00:16:20,306 --> 00:16:21,882 She's going through some things. 315 00:16:21,933 --> 00:16:24,017 I dealt with it. Just wrap it up, Lloyd. 316 00:16:31,225 --> 00:16:34,227 Okay, bottom line is that Ray is right. 317 00:16:34,278 --> 00:16:36,730 Okay, these perverts normally stay out of the daylight. 318 00:16:36,781 --> 00:16:38,565 Sometimes for years. 319 00:16:38,616 --> 00:16:41,535 And when they do finally decide to act on their sick urges, 320 00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:44,037 they invariably dip their toe in the water. 321 00:16:44,071 --> 00:16:49,326 But this crib creeper jumped headfirst into the kiddie pool, 322 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,027 so the notion that he could move 323 00:16:51,045 --> 00:16:54,915 to more straightforward violence is entirely possible. 324 00:16:54,966 --> 00:16:57,584 He is so much more dangerous than we ever thought, 325 00:16:57,635 --> 00:17:01,588 because I have never seen an abuse pathology like his before. 326 00:17:02,890 --> 00:17:05,842 Now, uh... 327 00:17:05,876 --> 00:17:08,094 The subject matter is... is horrible, 328 00:17:08,146 --> 00:17:11,598 granted, but I think it's best if we all 329 00:17:11,649 --> 00:17:14,784 try to look at this clinically and not emotionally. 330 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:16,153 And speaking of clinically, 331 00:17:16,187 --> 00:17:17,771 I could write a paper on this guy 332 00:17:17,822 --> 00:17:19,272 that could get me published again so fast... 333 00:17:19,323 --> 00:17:20,690 Lloyd, Lloyd, Ramsey's a runner 334 00:17:20,724 --> 00:17:22,325 we're trying to catch, all right? 335 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,660 It's not your chance to become a teacher again. 336 00:17:23,694 --> 00:17:24,894 Well, Professor, but... 337 00:17:24,912 --> 00:17:25,862 Don't poke the bear, Lloyd. 338 00:17:27,007 --> 00:17:28,615 Charlie? 339 00:17:30,201 --> 00:17:32,702 Marisol, um, is everything okay? 340 00:17:32,736 --> 00:17:34,921 You didn't pick up your phone, so... 341 00:17:34,956 --> 00:17:36,673 - Can I talk to you for a minute? - Yeah. 342 00:17:36,707 --> 00:17:38,091 Baby, let's just go downstairs. 343 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,677 Ray, can you...? Please. 344 00:17:41,798 --> 00:17:43,580 Nice to meet you, Mrs. Duchamp. 345 00:17:47,918 --> 00:17:50,637 - Marisol, now's just not a good time. - I know. 346 00:17:50,688 --> 00:17:52,355 That's why I called our travel agent, 347 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:53,756 I pushed our flight five days. 348 00:17:53,774 --> 00:17:55,225 We get back on the 31st. 349 00:17:55,259 --> 00:17:57,777 And we can move it again without a penalty if we have to. 350 00:17:57,812 --> 00:17:59,362 - I don't think we can. - No, we can. 351 00:17:59,397 --> 00:18:00,780 Our travel agent said we could. 352 00:18:00,815 --> 00:18:02,782 We made these plans when I was on a desk. 353 00:18:02,817 --> 00:18:04,267 I mean, the job I have right now... 354 00:18:04,285 --> 00:18:07,770 It just jumps up, and just grabs you like it did today. 355 00:18:07,788 --> 00:18:09,322 I got to show them that I can do it. 356 00:18:09,373 --> 00:18:11,124 I mean, to cash in on my vacation days this early... 357 00:18:11,158 --> 00:18:12,576 It just wouldn't be the right move. 358 00:18:12,610 --> 00:18:14,160 I knew that you'd do this. 359 00:18:14,212 --> 00:18:16,613 "We'll go away once I get made a full marshal." 360 00:18:16,631 --> 00:18:18,615 "We'll take a trip once I get my task force." 361 00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:20,133 I'm not a file clerk, Marisol. 362 00:18:20,167 --> 00:18:22,219 - My job is different from most husbands. - And I know that. 363 00:18:22,253 --> 00:18:24,054 And I'm proud of you. 364 00:18:24,088 --> 00:18:27,218 But no one works all the time for years without a break. 365 00:18:27,219 --> 00:18:28,725 It's not healthy. 366 00:18:30,961 --> 00:18:32,345 Duchamp. 367 00:18:33,412 --> 00:18:33,963 Okay. 368 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,651 I got to go. 369 00:18:42,144 --> 00:18:44,941 You said you'd get me off. 370 00:18:46,474 --> 00:18:47,077 Easy, Joe. 371 00:18:47,111 --> 00:18:48,745 Shut up! 372 00:18:49,459 --> 00:18:52,782 You took all my money, and I still went to prison. 373 00:18:52,816 --> 00:18:55,252 Now it's time to pay it up. 374 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,270 He looked crazy, so I went for a gun I keep in my top drawer. 375 00:19:08,271 --> 00:19:10,230 You keep a gun in your office? 376 00:19:10,231 --> 00:19:12,151 I represent scumbags. 377 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,254 So before I could do anything, Joe is all over me. 378 00:19:14,288 --> 00:19:17,657 Gun goes off, bullet tears through his shoulder, ends up 379 00:19:17,675 --> 00:19:20,260 in my wall over there, but he grabs the gun out of my hand. 380 00:19:20,294 --> 00:19:22,995 He knocks me over the head, and when I come to, he's gone. So's the piece. 381 00:19:23,013 --> 00:19:25,498 He was shot, but was still able to knock you out? 382 00:19:25,516 --> 00:19:27,723 I'm 76 years old, you little turd. 383 00:19:27,724 --> 00:19:29,386 When I was your age, I'd kick your ass. 384 00:19:29,437 --> 00:19:32,389 Easy, grandpa. Just trying to figure out how bad a wound 385 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,608 our boy's got. What was it? 9mm? 386 00:19:34,642 --> 00:19:37,143 - Yeah, a man's gun. - Small caliber, close range. 387 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:38,845 He can run, but he'll have a slow bleed. 388 00:19:38,863 --> 00:19:40,780 It'll make things tough for him. 389 00:19:40,815 --> 00:19:42,365 Yeah, now that he's hurt, he'll become more desperate. 390 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,834 Yeah, I have a quick question. 391 00:19:43,885 --> 00:19:46,319 Why is this very charming fellow still alive? 392 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:47,787 Screw you, peewee. 393 00:19:47,822 --> 00:19:49,456 Okay, see? I barely know him, and I want to shoot him. 394 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:50,740 Heard that. 395 00:19:50,791 --> 00:19:51,858 Why didn't Joe? He had a gun. 396 00:19:51,876 --> 00:19:53,176 Well, maybe he was afraid 397 00:19:53,211 --> 00:19:54,294 people heard them fighting, so he took off. 398 00:19:54,328 --> 00:19:55,695 Plus he was shot, just wanted 399 00:19:55,713 --> 00:19:57,196 to get out, treat his wound. 400 00:19:57,215 --> 00:19:59,299 You own a green BMW? 401 00:19:59,333 --> 00:20:00,700 Yeah. Why? 402 00:20:00,718 --> 00:20:04,421 It was found abandoned a few miles away, blood on the seat. 403 00:20:07,225 --> 00:20:09,709 First Tess, then the lawyer who didn't get him off. 404 00:20:09,727 --> 00:20:11,377 Joe Ramsey's looking for revenge 405 00:20:11,395 --> 00:20:13,230 on everybody he blames for his incarceration. 406 00:20:13,264 --> 00:20:16,316 Jules, get me security to the judge and the prosecutor 407 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:17,734 in the Ramsey trial and all the other victims. 408 00:20:17,768 --> 00:20:19,653 Copy that. 409 00:20:19,687 --> 00:20:21,404 He knew that the lawyer would eventually realize 410 00:20:21,439 --> 00:20:23,823 his car is missing, so he had to dump it. 411 00:20:23,858 --> 00:20:25,275 There's a lot of real estate. 412 00:20:25,326 --> 00:20:27,560 Could have gone in any direction. 413 00:20:36,405 --> 00:20:37,737 That's how it starts. 414 00:20:37,755 --> 00:20:39,589 First the office pop-ins, 415 00:20:39,624 --> 00:20:41,174 and then you avoid the wife's calls. 416 00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:42,626 It's about our vacation to St. Barts. 417 00:20:42,677 --> 00:20:44,410 It's not a good time at work right now. 418 00:20:44,428 --> 00:20:46,429 Then you start cancel trips because of the job. 419 00:20:46,464 --> 00:20:48,414 You, my friend, are following the Ray and Christina handbook. 420 00:20:48,432 --> 00:20:50,249 Marisol and I are fine, Ray. 421 00:20:50,268 --> 00:20:52,469 Girls that look like her say, "Let's go to St. Barts," 422 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,970 I go to St. Barts. 423 00:20:54,021 --> 00:20:55,605 You might want to check out Fire Island, Charlie. 424 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,357 - I hear it's lovely. - You two done talking yet? 425 00:20:57,391 --> 00:20:58,642 Got two words for you: 426 00:20:58,693 --> 00:21:01,778 Josh Pollack... best divorce lawyer in New York. 427 00:21:02,586 --> 00:21:04,751 You really should get that. 428 00:21:24,297 --> 00:21:26,740 Hey, uh, I know where he went. 429 00:21:26,873 --> 00:21:29,325 He stopped as soon as he saw something he wanted. 430 00:21:32,462 --> 00:21:34,071 The green line into Boston. 431 00:21:34,198 --> 00:21:35,989 Yeah, we passed a few trains on the way here, but that's 432 00:21:36,142 --> 00:21:37,306 the one he wanted because as soon 433 00:21:37,419 --> 00:21:39,747 as he saw it, he ditched his car. 434 00:21:41,815 --> 00:21:43,183 What are you doing? 435 00:21:43,299 --> 00:21:44,053 Amazing what you learn 436 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:46,327 when you're stuck behind a desk for six years, Ray. 437 00:21:46,458 --> 00:21:48,350 I'm cross-referencing all the stops on the green line 438 00:21:48,483 --> 00:21:49,659 to the case file for Joe's trial. 439 00:21:49,803 --> 00:21:51,324 I mean, if he's going after everybody he thinks 440 00:21:51,467 --> 00:21:53,798 is responsible for putting him away, then... 441 00:21:55,144 --> 00:21:56,941 Carla Rodriguez, social worker 442 00:21:57,059 --> 00:21:58,404 who testified for the prosecution. 443 00:21:58,552 --> 00:22:00,199 She has an office on Charles Street 444 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:01,522 five stops down on the line. 445 00:22:01,675 --> 00:22:03,658 - Ray, call h... - Already on it. 446 00:22:03,775 --> 00:22:06,027 - Got her machine. - If she's in session, she might have 447 00:22:06,164 --> 00:22:08,789 - her phone turned off. - We gotta hurry. 448 00:22:28,475 --> 00:22:30,391 U.S. Marshals. 449 00:22:32,652 --> 00:22:33,874 Ms. Rodriguez, U.S. Mar... 450 00:22:34,016 --> 00:22:38,428 Help! He's in here! Hurry! 451 00:22:43,131 --> 00:22:45,405 He went out the fire escape! 452 00:22:51,527 --> 00:22:54,509 - Go around! - He ran out the back! 453 00:22:54,615 --> 00:22:55,800 Let's go. I'll take the east side of the building. 454 00:22:55,937 --> 00:22:58,313 - Homeboy's got a gun, I'll stay here. - Ditto. 455 00:22:58,496 --> 00:23:00,004 At least keep a lookout on the other block, okay? 456 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,011 And just call one of the adults if you see something. 457 00:23:28,221 --> 00:23:29,960 Mother, I can't talk right now. 458 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:31,557 Because I'm on the case! 459 00:23:31,670 --> 00:23:33,445 Because that's how cops talk! 460 00:23:39,537 --> 00:23:41,152 Mom, I'm down! 461 00:23:46,535 --> 00:23:48,062 I lost him, but I think he's on the ground. 462 00:23:48,197 --> 00:23:51,106 Go a block over, I'll wrap around... We'll box him in. 463 00:23:52,584 --> 00:23:55,045 - You all right? - Yeah. Subway. 464 00:24:01,220 --> 00:24:02,589 Hi. 465 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,123 Don't move. 466 00:24:44,313 --> 00:24:46,384 You've got a gun pointed at a federal officer. 467 00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:47,519 I don't hurt children. 468 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:48,567 I love kids. 469 00:24:48,713 --> 00:24:50,528 That's how you guys rationalize it? 470 00:24:50,648 --> 00:24:52,449 Pull the trigger. I'll be happy to die 471 00:24:52,577 --> 00:24:54,256 catching a piece of garbage like you. 472 00:24:54,676 --> 00:24:55,933 I'm getting off at the next stop. 473 00:24:56,072 --> 00:24:57,367 You're not. You move, 474 00:24:57,515 --> 00:24:59,861 and I will fire into this car. 475 00:25:28,692 --> 00:25:31,043 We got lucky again... We got there 20 seconds 476 00:25:31,179 --> 00:25:33,732 after he locked himself in a social worker's office. 477 00:25:33,858 --> 00:25:36,212 This receipt fell out of his pocket when he knocked Lloyd over. 478 00:25:36,339 --> 00:25:37,524 - When I tackled him. - He must have snatched 479 00:25:37,657 --> 00:25:39,202 his wife's credit card when he stole her money. 480 00:25:39,343 --> 00:25:40,317 Get the account number. 481 00:25:40,463 --> 00:25:42,662 - Put an alarm on it. - Oh, my God, 482 00:25:42,795 --> 00:25:45,295 you guys, look at these pictures Tess drew. 483 00:25:45,451 --> 00:25:48,087 She made herself really small, means she was feeling weak. 484 00:25:48,227 --> 00:25:49,759 And she didn't even put her parents in any of them, 485 00:25:49,898 --> 00:25:52,232 which indicates that she felt totally vulnerable, 486 00:25:52,348 --> 00:25:53,623 like nobody could help her. 487 00:25:53,754 --> 00:25:55,517 Why'd you take the social worker's file? 488 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,744 Is there anything in there that we don't already know? 489 00:25:57,861 --> 00:25:59,686 Well, not really... but this Ramsey profile, 490 00:25:59,801 --> 00:26:01,749 psychologically, is one in a million, and if I could 491 00:26:01,868 --> 00:26:03,405 - find a way to present this... - Hey, Lloyd, 492 00:26:03,523 --> 00:26:06,049 didn't I tell you you're not gonna write this paper? 493 00:26:06,721 --> 00:26:08,667 There's no way you're gonna publicize that you're a part 494 00:26:08,786 --> 00:26:10,443 of this team without having the people in the Max house 495 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:11,839 shank you when you get there. 496 00:26:11,964 --> 00:26:13,344 And that's exactly where I'm gonna send you. 497 00:26:13,468 --> 00:26:15,890 Stop thinking of yourself. 498 00:26:27,943 --> 00:26:29,325 - Hey. - Get out. 499 00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:31,931 You seem angry. And the last time 500 00:26:32,073 --> 00:26:33,817 you were angry, you kind of punched me in the face, 501 00:26:33,968 --> 00:26:37,296 so maybe I could throw a little water on the fire for my sake. 502 00:26:37,719 --> 00:26:40,838 Listen... I know that I'm an a-hole, 503 00:26:40,968 --> 00:26:43,473 but I'm a pretty good doctor. 504 00:26:45,007 --> 00:26:46,470 Parents who can't even protect their kids 505 00:26:46,614 --> 00:26:49,411 still get to keep them, and I don't even get to see mine? 506 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:51,650 - It's not right. - No, it isn't. 507 00:26:51,790 --> 00:26:55,176 And despite your, uh, semi-psychotic rage-control issues, 508 00:26:55,317 --> 00:26:58,422 you have the protective instincts that are necessary 509 00:26:58,544 --> 00:27:00,752 to be a wonderful mother. 510 00:27:01,376 --> 00:27:03,928 Nothing stronger than that, and you have it in spades. 511 00:27:04,065 --> 00:27:06,251 I don't want to talk to you about this, okay? 512 00:27:06,385 --> 00:27:07,394 You are not 513 00:27:07,537 --> 00:27:09,364 my friend. 514 00:27:09,505 --> 00:27:11,084 I'm not trying to be your friend. 515 00:27:11,228 --> 00:27:14,540 I'm trying to keep you walking the line so that we can all 516 00:27:14,659 --> 00:27:16,189 - keep our jobs. - I can do my job. 517 00:27:16,317 --> 00:27:19,804 I'm just gonna do as Charlie said and... and bottle it up 518 00:27:19,926 --> 00:27:22,095 and focus on work. 519 00:27:22,225 --> 00:27:23,999 - I wouldn't advise that. - Would you just get 520 00:27:24,114 --> 00:27:25,703 the hell out of here, Lowery, before you get another 521 00:27:25,842 --> 00:27:30,264 up-close look at my rage issues? 522 00:27:43,114 --> 00:27:45,253 - Gimme your gun, I wanna shoot some people. - What? 523 00:27:45,405 --> 00:27:47,060 You get to play doctor, I get to play G-Man. 524 00:27:47,189 --> 00:27:48,152 G-Man's FBI. 525 00:27:48,281 --> 00:27:49,768 You told Erica to bottle it up? 526 00:27:49,904 --> 00:27:51,202 What kind of Guatemalan med school did you 527 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:53,564 - go to, Charlie? - She's got to focus on the task at hand. 528 00:27:53,688 --> 00:27:55,358 She needs an emotional release, jackass. 529 00:27:55,504 --> 00:27:57,761 Her father was murdered, her kid was taken away from her. 530 00:27:57,873 --> 00:28:00,476 She has rage issues, and you're telling her to put a cork 531 00:28:00,594 --> 00:28:01,334 in mount Vesuvius. 532 00:28:01,464 --> 00:28:04,542 Did you just call me a jackass? 533 00:28:04,671 --> 00:28:05,852 Possibly, yeah. 534 00:28:05,970 --> 00:28:07,249 Credit card hit. 535 00:28:07,374 --> 00:28:09,735 Uh, recently used at a convenience store 536 00:28:09,886 --> 00:28:10,953 in Portland, Maine. 537 00:28:11,097 --> 00:28:12,143 How the hell did he get up there? 538 00:28:12,282 --> 00:28:13,754 I doubt this guy knows how to hotwire. 539 00:28:13,899 --> 00:28:15,223 He's going to Canada. 540 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,677 There are 611 miles of border. 541 00:28:17,819 --> 00:28:19,495 He's not going to the border. 542 00:28:19,634 --> 00:28:21,481 At his wife's house, the fishing photo. 543 00:28:21,621 --> 00:28:23,014 There was a sign for Bar Harbor. 544 00:28:23,153 --> 00:28:25,791 Now, Joe's wife said he went there every summer as a kid. 545 00:28:25,922 --> 00:28:27,470 He knows the area. 546 00:28:27,608 --> 00:28:28,738 There's a car ferry 547 00:28:28,885 --> 00:28:31,513 from Bar Harbor to Canada. 548 00:28:31,628 --> 00:28:32,690 Okay, I'll put an alarm out 549 00:28:32,831 --> 00:28:34,579 to all of the main precincts and the ferry. 550 00:28:34,712 --> 00:28:36,936 Okay. Call the field office, get us a plane and a car. 551 00:28:37,072 --> 00:28:38,891 Director's gonna kill me for this. Erica! 552 00:28:39,053 --> 00:28:40,616 Quit sulking... We got work to do. 553 00:28:40,756 --> 00:28:42,884 Hey, you're hurt. You stay. 554 00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:44,383 I appreciate the effort. 555 00:28:44,528 --> 00:28:45,495 Thank you, Raymond. 556 00:28:45,618 --> 00:28:47,742 Don't get cocky. 557 00:28:48,085 --> 00:28:49,793 Julianne. 558 00:28:50,134 --> 00:28:52,478 Raise your right hand. 559 00:28:54,714 --> 00:28:57,544 Julianne Simms, I hereby deputize you as a deputy U.S. Marshal 560 00:28:57,671 --> 00:28:59,747 to supervise this inmate currently under provisional release. 561 00:28:59,858 --> 00:29:01,835 Uh... I do? 562 00:29:01,978 --> 00:29:03,315 We didn't just get married, Julianne. 563 00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:04,326 Uh, yeah. 564 00:29:04,467 --> 00:29:06,055 Uh, uh, yes. 565 00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,261 All right. 566 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,168 Don't cause any problem, dumbass. 567 00:29:22,217 --> 00:29:24,338 Children are so symbolic. 568 00:29:24,530 --> 00:29:26,508 Especially when they're expressing a trauma... it protects them 569 00:29:26,642 --> 00:29:28,730 from having to say what actually happened. 570 00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:29,913 Look... in this one, 571 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:31,399 Tess literally made herself 572 00:29:31,551 --> 00:29:34,312 - an animal's prey. - That's because she was. 573 00:29:34,421 --> 00:29:36,313 I wonder why she picked a bird. 574 00:29:36,448 --> 00:29:39,736 Why not a bear or a tiger? 575 00:29:39,856 --> 00:29:42,326 Something more fierce. 576 00:29:48,407 --> 00:29:49,981 His buckle. 577 00:29:52,508 --> 00:29:55,651 Honey, did he say anything to you? 578 00:29:55,781 --> 00:29:57,174 Oh, my God. 579 00:29:57,305 --> 00:30:01,015 What would you say if a pedophile came after your kid? 580 00:30:01,137 --> 00:30:02,600 You know, "did he touch you?" 581 00:30:02,742 --> 00:30:04,301 "Did he lay a finger on you?" 582 00:30:04,417 --> 00:30:05,934 Tess's father didn't say any of that. 583 00:30:05,957 --> 00:30:08,806 Honey, did he say anything to you? 584 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:10,290 He wanted to know if Joe said 585 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:12,058 anything to Tess... like maybe Joe was 586 00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:13,482 trying to convince her to tell the truth. 587 00:30:13,627 --> 00:30:14,992 Because there's only three people 588 00:30:15,131 --> 00:30:16,530 that know Joe's innocent: 589 00:30:16,654 --> 00:30:20,642 Tess, Joe, daddy. 590 00:30:20,772 --> 00:30:23,334 - I'm completely not following you. - Okay. 591 00:30:23,494 --> 00:30:25,127 The case history said that Tess's teachers 592 00:30:25,286 --> 00:30:26,878 knew something was bothering her, okay? 593 00:30:27,019 --> 00:30:29,334 So she was questioned, she saw some doctors, 594 00:30:29,461 --> 00:30:32,278 and eventually, she said she was being abused. 595 00:30:32,419 --> 00:30:33,325 Very brave. 596 00:30:33,870 --> 00:30:35,891 But to turn in your own dad. 597 00:30:36,022 --> 00:30:37,857 Come on, no eight-year-old is that brave. 598 00:30:38,006 --> 00:30:40,450 And meanwhile, she has adults demanding answers from her. 599 00:30:40,582 --> 00:30:43,046 "Who did this to you, Tess?" "You have to tell us, Tess." 600 00:30:43,165 --> 00:30:44,744 All the while, her dad is right there in the room, 601 00:30:44,862 --> 00:30:46,480 staring at her, scaring her to death. 602 00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:48,289 So she picks somebody, a man that she sees 603 00:30:48,417 --> 00:30:51,787 every day at school, Joe Ramsey. 604 00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:53,846 But there were five victims. 605 00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:55,604 There were well-meaning but hysterical parents 606 00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:57,510 who heard that a counselor at their child's school 607 00:30:57,638 --> 00:30:59,151 was a pedophile. 608 00:30:59,278 --> 00:31:00,939 "Come on, sweetheart, you can tell us." 609 00:31:01,063 --> 00:31:02,333 "Mommy and daddy won't be mad." 610 00:31:02,478 --> 00:31:03,469 "It's not your fault." 611 00:31:03,598 --> 00:31:05,501 "We'll only be upset if you're keeping a secret." 612 00:31:05,627 --> 00:31:06,910 "You're not keeping a secret, are you?" 613 00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:09,124 "Tell us when Mr. Ramsey molested you." 614 00:31:09,255 --> 00:31:10,872 - This can happen? - It has happened. 615 00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:12,195 The McMartin day care trial. 616 00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:14,097 The, uh, Tonya Craft prosecution. 617 00:31:14,208 --> 00:31:17,197 If you mix terrified parents, scared kids, 618 00:31:17,318 --> 00:31:19,209 uh, barely qualified social workers 619 00:31:19,334 --> 00:31:20,527 and an ambitious prosecution, 620 00:31:20,657 --> 00:31:24,037 you have yourself a modern-day witch trial. 621 00:31:24,652 --> 00:31:27,348 - Where are you going? - Massachusetts. 622 00:31:27,486 --> 00:31:28,682 And you're driving me, because mother 623 00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:30,378 never let me get my permit. 624 00:31:30,528 --> 00:31:31,696 W... we can't leave. 625 00:31:32,248 --> 00:31:34,153 I was deputized. 626 00:31:34,306 --> 00:31:37,201 Uh, look, we shouldn't even be down here. 627 00:31:37,322 --> 00:31:38,054 You're right, 628 00:31:38,194 --> 00:31:40,206 but this is your chance to actually be a marshal 629 00:31:40,345 --> 00:31:42,127 instead of somebody that was tossed out of the academy 630 00:31:42,254 --> 00:31:43,677 for psychiatric afflictions... and I'm sorry, 631 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:46,194 it's just, it's really obvious to me. 632 00:31:46,701 --> 00:31:49,057 I... I just can't. 633 00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:51,072 Let me call Charlie. 634 00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:53,330 He will say no, okay? I need proof 635 00:31:53,468 --> 00:31:54,751 before I bring all this stuff to Charlie. 636 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:57,078 I need to talk to Tess. 637 00:31:59,163 --> 00:32:02,221 Hm. You want me to go outside of my comfort zone, 638 00:32:02,441 --> 00:32:04,554 drive on a highway... 639 00:32:04,777 --> 00:32:06,006 Uh... 640 00:32:06,117 --> 00:32:08,468 I have partial agoraphobia, 641 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:09,487 tachophobia, 642 00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:12,584 - neophobia... - I have send-an-innocent-man-to-jail-phobia. 643 00:32:12,705 --> 00:32:14,908 Not to mention, Tess is still living with her father, 644 00:32:15,047 --> 00:32:16,980 which means she is living in hell. 645 00:32:17,804 --> 00:32:18,774 Come on, I'll talk you 646 00:32:18,907 --> 00:32:19,729 through it, I will help you, 647 00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:22,323 but we have to go now. 648 00:32:23,206 --> 00:32:26,721 I promise you'll be fine. 649 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:30,972 Hey, Ms. Samuels. 650 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,513 You might remember me from the school. 651 00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,555 I'm Special Agent Lloyd Lowry, this is 652 00:32:34,776 --> 00:32:35,814 my colegue, Julianne Simms, 653 00:32:35,953 --> 00:32:39,241 we just have some follow-up questions for you. 654 00:32:39,353 --> 00:32:43,003 - I... sure, come in. - Thank you. 655 00:32:47,584 --> 00:32:49,034 You okay? 656 00:32:49,221 --> 00:32:50,909 Tough drive. 657 00:32:51,127 --> 00:32:52,376 Hi, Tess. 658 00:32:54,235 --> 00:32:55,183 How can I help you? 659 00:32:55,328 --> 00:32:56,146 Well, we were just wondering 660 00:32:56,277 --> 00:32:58,557 if you have any of Tess' old report cards. 661 00:32:58,690 --> 00:33:00,944 When we eventually prosecute Mr. Ramsey, 662 00:33:01,074 --> 00:33:02,926 we'd like to show the adverse effects 663 00:33:03,056 --> 00:33:05,449 he's had on all aspects of his victims' lives, including, 664 00:33:05,568 --> 00:33:07,642 you know, academics and such. 665 00:33:07,875 --> 00:33:10,615 Yeah, I'd have to go and find them. 666 00:33:10,746 --> 00:33:12,730 I would really appreciate it. Thanks so much. 667 00:33:12,877 --> 00:33:15,348 Tess, I'll be right back. 668 00:33:20,652 --> 00:33:22,534 Okay, go talk to her. 669 00:33:22,664 --> 00:33:23,428 No. 670 00:33:23,563 --> 00:33:25,812 - What? - You're the doctor. 671 00:33:25,946 --> 00:33:27,730 She's not going to open up to a man, 672 00:33:27,866 --> 00:33:30,471 and you were just driving on I-95, you can talk to a kid. 673 00:33:30,602 --> 00:33:32,132 It's okay. 674 00:33:35,813 --> 00:33:37,495 Hi. 675 00:33:40,042 --> 00:33:41,909 I'm Julianne. 676 00:33:43,466 --> 00:33:45,244 It's okay. 677 00:33:45,995 --> 00:33:48,336 We came here because we were wondering 678 00:33:48,681 --> 00:33:50,910 if there was something about this situation 679 00:33:51,055 --> 00:33:54,127 that you'd want to tell us... 680 00:33:54,266 --> 00:33:57,413 Something that maybe you haven't been able 681 00:33:57,539 --> 00:33:59,629 to tell anybody yet. 682 00:34:06,523 --> 00:34:08,208 I know what it's like 683 00:34:08,356 --> 00:34:13,091 to feel stress and pressure 684 00:34:13,205 --> 00:34:16,273 and feel like nobody understands 685 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,348 what you're feeling, 686 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,815 and I know what it's like 687 00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:22,087 to feel scared. 688 00:34:22,396 --> 00:34:25,900 You don't have to be scared, 689 00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,598 'cause we're here to help you. 690 00:34:32,865 --> 00:34:35,109 A tip came in... A guy 691 00:34:35,245 --> 00:34:37,650 matching Joe's description is filling up 692 00:34:37,792 --> 00:34:39,815 a minivan on route 9, just outside Bar Harbor. 693 00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:40,648 Okay, I'll forward it. 694 00:34:40,802 --> 00:34:41,964 Keep going. 695 00:34:46,306 --> 00:34:47,664 He's only two miles away. 696 00:34:47,821 --> 00:34:49,719 We'll get there before the local cops. 697 00:34:50,143 --> 00:34:52,124 They're going to be there in two minutes. 698 00:34:52,362 --> 00:34:56,027 Tess, people are after Mr. Ramsey. 699 00:34:56,170 --> 00:34:57,861 It could get dangerous. 700 00:34:58,272 --> 00:35:01,025 If you have something to say, 701 00:35:01,154 --> 00:35:02,915 something that you've kept to yourself, 702 00:35:03,072 --> 00:35:05,641 you have to say it now. 703 00:35:08,377 --> 00:35:09,294 Okay, 704 00:35:09,453 --> 00:35:11,709 hey, Tess, we don't have much time. 705 00:35:11,863 --> 00:35:13,676 You don't have to say anything, 706 00:35:13,808 --> 00:35:15,509 but if you want, you can nod your head. 707 00:35:15,642 --> 00:35:17,724 Okay, if you're keeping a secret about what happened, 708 00:35:17,862 --> 00:35:20,518 it's okay if you want to nod your head. 709 00:35:20,637 --> 00:35:22,228 Now is the time to be brave, Tess. 710 00:35:22,361 --> 00:35:23,995 It's okay. 711 00:35:24,148 --> 00:35:26,255 What the hell are you doing? 712 00:35:26,391 --> 00:35:28,054 Ma'am, there is something going on under your roof 713 00:35:28,187 --> 00:35:30,725 - that you need to... - Get out now, or I get my gun. 714 00:35:30,981 --> 00:35:33,339 Tess, be brave now, come on, you can just nod your head 715 00:35:33,468 --> 00:35:36,261 - if you want. - Get out! 716 00:35:51,987 --> 00:35:52,905 Roll down your window, 717 00:35:53,048 --> 00:35:55,849 put your hands outside where we can see 'em! 718 00:35:55,992 --> 00:35:57,324 If you do not respond, 719 00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:58,982 we will fire. 720 00:35:59,953 --> 00:36:02,194 He could be loading ammo. 721 00:36:02,637 --> 00:36:04,241 Okay. 722 00:36:04,479 --> 00:36:06,241 Fire on three. 723 00:36:06,363 --> 00:36:09,008 One, two... 724 00:36:09,137 --> 00:36:10,403 Don't shoot. 725 00:36:10,541 --> 00:36:13,828 Put your hands where I can see 'em! 726 00:36:17,022 --> 00:36:20,408 Gun! Put the weapon down, Joe! 727 00:36:20,865 --> 00:36:23,668 Kick the weapon under your car. 728 00:36:24,195 --> 00:36:27,652 I said kick the weapon under your car. 729 00:36:29,196 --> 00:36:31,945 - What's going on? - From Julianne... 911. 730 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:34,116 Well, put it over the car speaker. 731 00:36:35,572 --> 00:36:37,061 Jules, everything all right? 732 00:36:37,205 --> 00:36:39,551 Charlie, Ray? Ramsey is innocent. 733 00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,120 He is the victim of hysteria and overreaction. 734 00:36:42,254 --> 00:36:43,286 He is not a criminal. 735 00:36:43,416 --> 00:36:45,978 Well, that's strange, he's got a gun he won't step away from. 736 00:36:46,122 --> 00:36:47,720 Look, he hasn't hurt anybody since he broke out. 737 00:36:47,847 --> 00:36:48,950 He could have shot that lawyer, 738 00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:50,385 he could have attacked the social worker, 739 00:36:50,517 --> 00:36:52,098 but he was going to people he thought could help him 740 00:36:52,223 --> 00:36:53,098 by telling the truth, 741 00:36:53,233 --> 00:36:55,814 by reopening the case, reconsidering their testimony. 742 00:36:55,938 --> 00:36:58,141 He's a desperate man, he is not a bad man. 743 00:36:58,270 --> 00:36:59,703 Tess' father is, he's the one, 744 00:36:59,836 --> 00:37:01,869 not Joe. 745 00:37:01,996 --> 00:37:04,075 Please believe him. 746 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,100 Shut up. Lloyd, do you have proof? 747 00:37:07,301 --> 00:37:10,438 No, but I saw something in Tess' eyes, Charlie. 748 00:37:10,574 --> 00:37:13,606 I'm a doctor, I can tell when somebody's hiding something. 749 00:37:13,728 --> 00:37:15,206 You got to be kidding me, Lloyd. 750 00:37:15,336 --> 00:37:16,928 Hang up the phone, Shea. 751 00:37:17,031 --> 00:37:20,108 Kick the weapon under your car, Joe. 752 00:37:21,498 --> 00:37:23,921 Kick the weapon under your car. 753 00:37:24,043 --> 00:37:26,634 Last time I'm going to tell you. 754 00:37:27,377 --> 00:37:29,611 There's somebody inside. 755 00:37:30,068 --> 00:37:33,203 No... no! 756 00:37:33,337 --> 00:37:34,638 On your knees. 757 00:37:34,764 --> 00:37:36,223 Stop, he's been through enough! 758 00:37:36,358 --> 00:37:38,550 On your knees. 759 00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:41,175 Lloyd might be right. 760 00:37:41,301 --> 00:37:42,730 If Joe was dangerous, she would not be running away 761 00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:45,415 - with him with her kids. - Debate's over. 762 00:37:46,229 --> 00:37:46,891 Joe. 763 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:48,682 We catch fugitives, and we take 'em in. 764 00:37:48,814 --> 00:37:50,960 That's it. 765 00:38:16,364 --> 00:38:17,941 What were you thinking? 766 00:38:18,085 --> 00:38:19,729 That he was innocent. 767 00:38:19,886 --> 00:38:21,944 Our job is to chase and catch, 768 00:38:22,101 --> 00:38:23,580 Julianne, not question and judge. 769 00:38:23,732 --> 00:38:24,832 What if you're wrong, Charlie? 770 00:38:24,975 --> 00:38:26,642 Okay, an accused pedophile 771 00:38:26,773 --> 00:38:28,592 escapes and then is thrown back into prison. 772 00:38:28,747 --> 00:38:30,725 The notoriety alone will get him killed in one year. 773 00:38:30,856 --> 00:38:32,571 Well, he might last longer in there than you do, 'cause 774 00:38:32,722 --> 00:38:35,515 I'm seriously reconsidering you both on this team. 775 00:38:35,653 --> 00:38:37,694 This was bullshit. 776 00:38:39,286 --> 00:38:41,640 J... just go. 777 00:38:51,227 --> 00:38:54,542 Busted-up leg, chewed out. 778 00:38:54,692 --> 00:38:58,727 That's what you get for jumping into the fray, stupid. 779 00:39:05,287 --> 00:39:07,925 You have one new message. 780 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,496 Hey, it's me. 781 00:39:10,637 --> 00:39:14,864 Look, I'm just going to go with Sarah from work. 782 00:39:15,071 --> 00:39:19,681 I'd rather be going with you, but I guess that can't be, so... 783 00:39:19,827 --> 00:39:22,995 I'll see you on the 31st. 784 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:36,103 I just wanted to drop off my cell phone. 785 00:39:36,202 --> 00:39:37,711 Yeah. 786 00:39:40,307 --> 00:39:42,563 Look, we think the important people 787 00:39:42,697 --> 00:39:45,402 are always going to be in our lives until they aren't. 788 00:39:45,474 --> 00:39:47,272 You should go. 789 00:39:50,208 --> 00:39:52,853 Her flight's already left. 790 00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:13,843 Uh, my daughter told me something. 791 00:40:16,432 --> 00:40:19,398 I'm sorry. 792 00:40:46,697 --> 00:40:49,817 We're gonna need more chicken for next week, Tim. 793 00:40:50,939 --> 00:40:54,568 Hey... did you catch him? 794 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:57,506 Yeah, I just did. 795 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,352 Should I still do the world a favor and kill the animal? 796 00:41:05,114 --> 00:41:07,599 Get him out of here. 797 00:41:23,387 --> 00:41:25,459 I'll be back. 798 00:41:25,602 --> 00:41:27,626 Where the hell are we? 799 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,450 Charlie Duchamp, U.S. Marshals. 800 00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:40,038 I've got a woman here that wants to see her kid. 801 00:41:42,149 --> 00:41:47,675 Erica, you might want to wake up for this. 802 00:42:20,317 --> 00:42:23,856 There's that emotional release I was talking about. 803 00:42:24,056 --> 00:42:28,056 Sync by YYeTs, corrected by atrn97g www.addic7ed.com