In the criminal justice system, the people are represented
by two separate yet equally important groups.
The police who investigate crime
and the Crown Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders.
These are their stories.
They ran through from the bar, in this direction.
He was 6', she was 5'5". Blimey.
Oi! Hang on, there's blood everywhere here,
I don't want your plates of meat trampling through it.
Go the other way. Use the other door.
Alan. Yeah.
There's evidence needs photographing. Can you get that done for me? OK.
Thank you. Sorry, Matty, you were saying?
Yeah, wearing masks. Latex. He was either Tony Blair or David Cameron,
witness couldn't tell the difference. She was Maggie Thatcher.
There's no mistaking her, that's for sure.
Right, Joy, what have you got?
Four bullet wounds, two at close range.
From the angle of entry I'd say the one to the head was first
and the rest are just making sure.
How sure do you have to be?
How's our Goth girl doing?
She's not. Time of death, 2:39.
It's like the OK Corral, what's happened?
Excuse me, DS Brooks! Yeah, wait there, please, thank you.
Yes, sir, how can we help?
I'm, I'm the cleaner. Mr...?
Barnes, Stuart Barnes.
Did you see anything, Mr Barnes? No. I got here for my shift
and went to talk to Helen like I always do.
And Helen is? Helen Shane. The manager.
I always start in her office, I change the water for her flowers.
That's where I've been. I heard the gunshots, so I stayed there,
I didn't know what else to do. So where is Helen Shane now, Mr Barnes?
This is her handbag. I found it outside the toilet.
The strap's torn.
Now I can't find her. I heard the gunshots. I was terrified.
If I hadn't hidden in the office - You did the right thing.
We need you to calm down right now and talk to one of our officers if that's OK?
(MOBILE PHONE RINGS) Er, Julie? Devlin.
Take Mr Barnes' description of Helen Shane please,
and get it back to me as soon as you can, all right?
We may have a hostage situation. Oh my God.
You go with Julie, Mr Barnes. Thank you very much. Take it easy.
We've got to end this before somebody else gets hurt.
Too late. Neighbourhood offy, guy and a girl wearing masks,
just shot the owner dead.
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Season 5, Episode 4 "Tick Tock"
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It was so fast and at the same time, seemed to be in slow-motion.
And there was just the two of them? Bloke, well built, I guess.
Skinny girl, nothing to her at all.
There wasn't another woman - Helen Shane?
30-ish, short brown hair, tattoo on the back of her neck?
She might have been in the car, a silver car. Did you catch the make?
A Citroen or a Peugeot? Thank you.
The uniformed officer will escort you. Sir.
Two hits to the chest. Point blank. What a mess.
Well, I'll add the silver car to the old description.
Why would they shoot him? I mean, the tills haven't been broken into.
Well, let's hope that's not a fake.
(HUBBUB OF PHONES AND VOICES)
Three bodies in 30 minutes.
I need a risk assessment from a CO19 unit as soon as. OK.
Give me something in the next couple of hours.
I've got the media already setting up camp outside,
and Callaghan wanting me to do a press conference for breakfast news.
Lab's doing blood analysis from the club.
And SOCO are dusting for prints at the offy.
No-one's turned up at Helen Shane's flat, uniform are there in case.
Fingers crossed she's still alive.
Look at the way she's holding that gun.
The recoil from that would knock her arm into her face if she fired that.
Guv, night club owner's just arrived.
I put him in one of the interview rooms. It's Helen Shane's brother.
She's my twin. Not erm...identical, lucky for her.
Is there any reason why someone would target her specifically?
No. She got on with everyone.
And she manages the club? Yeah. We set up business together
about ten years ago.
Can't believe we're still open, to be honest,
but that's all down to her. She's got the brains.
So, she closes up alone, does she?
We've got two rooms, a main floor and a chill-out zone.
Each has a bar. Helen closes the chill bar, cashes up
and then brings everything to Napalm. Napalm?
Nickname.
Was a nickname.
For Nathan Palmer. The head barman.
Right, so all the money in the building is all in one place
just before closing?
Napalm puts everything in the safe
and then we take it to the bank in the morning.
So Bonnie and Clyde hit the club at exactly the right time,
exactly the right place, and Helen, who cashes up, has disappeared.
She's not involved. She wouldn't do that.
Anyone at the club knows how we cash up. Anyone with a grudge?
There's no-one here, Ron.
o you were a bouncer at the Moon Club? Yeah, so?
Any particular reason why you left?
Yeah. Owner's an idiot. Lives in some fantasy world
where you don't pay minimum wage. Check him out.
Right, we'll be sure to do that. When were you last there?
Few weeks ago. He still owes me a month's money.
Did you see Helen Shane when you were there?
Owner reckons you had a schoolboy crush on Miss
Shane. Or was that another of his fantasies?
What did she do? Knock you back? Dent your pride?
I don't know what you're on about. The only thing dented was her car.
She nearly ran me over. What was she driving?
Peugeot. Colour?
Silver. Why?
Already on it. (KEYPAD BEEPS)
TV REPORTER: I'm just outside the Moon Club in central London.
All right, Ange? Good to see you out and about.
Yeah, I'm off home, thought I may as well update you on my way.
Right, what have you got? Silver Peugeot 406. '52 plate,
registered to Helen Shane, description's gone out
to all boroughs but nothing found yet.
So, what do we think then? Helen Shane becomes a target.
Is it because she's off home and has got an easy get-away car?
Well, if that's the case, then we should be checking the CCTV
from local tube stations. See if we can find out
which route Tony and Maggie took to get here.
Unless they did come in a car. Nicked a better one?
I checked these streets and there was a W registered Toyota here.
Reported stolen by a Mrs Annabel Scott at midday Tuesday.
Flat tyre.
Forensics are sending a truck to take it back to the station.
Well, tell the lab boys we couldn't wait.
Twix wrapper, empty vodka bottle. Ron...
Well, no white powder.
What do you reckon? Weed? Resin?
Yeah, could be. And a receipt from Nobo's News, dated yesterday.
Cigarette papers, packet of fags, two items saying Old St Louis.
That is tobacco, Old St Louis. You don't hear of it much these days.
My old man smoked it. Do us a favour, call the owner of this car, will you?
Find out what state it was in when she last had it. Yes, sir.
Thank you. Cos my guessing is, she's no pot-head.
Whoever sold this could give us
a description of our killers without their masks on.
You any idea how many people buy fags from Nobo's?
We're on the way to a tube station, for God's sake.
I can't remember one bloke. Well, you know, I appreciate that, Ruby,
I really, really do, but this is very important.
A woman's life is in danger and you might be able to help.
So just try and think back to yesterday morning
and remember something. Anything.
I think he had a denim jacket. Well, there
you are, good, that's great. How hard was that?
A denim jacket. Anything you remember about him that he didn't have?
Like what? How can I remember what he didn't have?
Well, like a beard, for instance.
Oh, right. I get it.
Yeah.
And?
What? Well did he or did he not have a beard?
He had, like, stubble. Great, stubble.
Er... How's it going?
Well, slowly, but slowly, you know.
Forensics pulled loads of prints from the Toyota.
One partial who's not the owner but not enough for an ID.
And how's the press conference going?
Pretty rough. Press going crazy calling it a gun spree.
TV crews everywhere, think Christmas has come early.
We've found the Peugeot.
Boys, it's just round the corner, the other side of the estate.
No-one in it. I've got plain-clothes on both ends
and on every side street.
All clear? For now.
So, what are we waiting for?
Hang on, they don't know that we've found the car yet.
It could be full of prints, give us an ID.
Or they could have gone for a coffee.
They might come straight back if we wait here a few minutes.
While Helen Shane does what? File her nails?
Oh, bloody news crews, do they never give up?
Not once they've smelled blood.
Right, we'll quick before they get any pictures.
It's not locked.
Same left-over baccy packet and more vodka.
Maybe one of our killers has a drink problem?
Or needed Dutch courage to pull the trigger.
Gov, Ron...
Helen Shane.
No reports of any other cars stolen where we found the Peugeot.
Well, might not have noticed yet.
Helen Shane had only been dead a couple of hours
by the time we found her. Shot in the back and bled out.
What a way to go. Hello, Brooks?
Forensics found another partial print. Is it good enough?
Matches the partial from the Toyota.
Listen up, everyone, shut up! Quiet please!
Says her name's Maggie. As in Thatcher?
Could be. Where are you, love? Can you tell me, please?
(SOBBING) Oh God, he's coming!
Who's coming, love? What's going on? He's coming back. I've gotta go.
(DIAL TONE) Do you reckon it was our Maggie?
Could be. Or a crank. (PHONE RINGS)
Didn't seem like a crank. Why didn't she leave her name?
Maybe her real name is Maggie. We have a fingerprint match.
We know who one of them is.
Andy Bishop. 31. Ex-serviceman,
decorated during a tour of Iraq seven years ago,
but had difficulty readjusting to civilian life.
According to medical reports he went through an alcohol detox programme
twice since leaving. Last year
he was done for ABH for a domestic dispute,
but he was out six months ago. Since then no known address.
Probation officer?
Yes, he had one, but Andy never showed up for his appointments.
So any known contacts?
His mother suffers from MS,
she's living in a home in Essex, dad's dead.
Who was the domestic with? His ex-girlfriend.
We're trying to track her down. He also has a brother, Sam,
who lives in Hackney.
Help yourself, look around. Make sure you check out
the other six bedrooms? Don't they need a warrant for this?
Oi! Don't you need a warrant for this?
Do you smoke, Mr Bishop?
Used to. Gave up when the bird got bumped. The bird?
You sure about that?
I have a spliff now and again. Y'know, just personal use.
And have you seen your brother lately?
I knew this was about Andy. Didn't I tell -
Have you seen your brother, Mr Bishop?
Not since he got out of prison, why? Why?!
Did you miss the news this morning? Cos we think he's killed four people
and then gone on the run with a loaded gun, that's why.
Has he scored since his release? How would I know?
He's a dope-head and the first thing he would have done
after getting out is come to see someone who could offer him a toke.
You need a warrant. I've seen it on TV.
Unless you've got something useful to say, shut up.
Oi, don't tell her to shut up! What're you going to do? Sam? Eh?
Big man in front of his girlfriend.
Just tell us where your brother is.
I don't know, I swear to god.
OK, what's the name of his dealer?
Just give us a name, then we'll be on our way
and we'll leave you to your domestic bliss.
Or we can continue this conversation down the station. Both of you.
Oh, no way, you're 'aving a laugh, aren't you?
I ain't going like this. I need to take a piss every 30 seconds.
Babe, don't - Don't 'babe' me.
Kyle Branning. He gets his gear off Kyle Branning.
(HEAVY THUMP)
Kyle Branning? Yeah.
Sit down, son, before you fall down.
Do you supply Andy Bishop? Who?
Andy Bishop. Big bloke, 'bout 30, does he score his gear from you?
You're going down for a long time, Kyle, with all this,
so the more helpful you are now the less painful it will be.
How old are you, son? 19.
You ever been in a prison, Kyle?
That bloke we nicked, Ron. Big fella,
doing ten years for armed robbery.
He eats boys like you for breakfast. No, he don't eat them, he -
Yes, Ron, I think we got the picture.
All right. He gets some weed off me. Sometimes.
Good lad. Anything else?
Kyle? Don't make me play bad cop.
You wouldn't like him when he plays bad cop.
He didn't pay for it. What? You want to report a theft?
No. He said he didn't have no cash, and I said I don't do credit,
and then he pulled a gun. SIG Sauer P226.
What? I like army stuff.
And when was this?
Day before yesterday.
'I like army stuff.' How do kids like that function in the world?
He doesn't, does he? He's living in a smoke-filled bubble.
(PHONE RINGS) I'll get on to ballistics.
Find out where army issue knockoffs are being traded.
Hello, Devlin.
Another hit, on a newsagent, Shoreditch.
You called us here for these two? I heard on the radio male-female team.
We said they were through puberty!
I called you as soon as he called me. They were shop-lifting!
She gets me to reach for something at the back of my shop, then he nick my fags.
You shouldn't even be smoking.
We don't. They're bad for you. We sell 'em at school to the year tens.
You better stop watching The Apprentice.
Are you gonna nick 'em? I want justice! Not today, Rhiz.
Check next time, yeah?
Ronnie? You sell Old St Louis tobacco?
Yeah, so?
What do you think you're doing?
We told you, we haven't seen him.
You told us you didn't smoke! What's that got to do with anything?
Well you see, I can smell tobacco in here,
which isn't the smell of a now-and-again spliff,
so if you're not smoking the tobacco, who is?
It's next door. I tell them to stop but they won't listen.
How long do you think we've been doing this?
This is harassment. I am pregnant, you know.
We can see that, but do you know what I find very strange?
It's laundry day, and not one item belonging to you
is on these clothes horses. So, where do you live?
What're you talking about?
Cos you don't live here, do you?
Brewer Street. Ten minutes walk from here.
Armed police, stay where you are! Armed police!
Room clear! Room clear.
Nobody home.
They ran out of booze.
Maybe they went to some more. Well, I would've.
We just passed one round the corner. Right.
You up for this? Oh yeah. Let's go.
(TYRES SQUEAL)
Got any bread? I dunno.
All right Andy. You OK? I just want to talk to you for a minute.
Get on the floor. Take it easy -
Get on the floor! Now! (SHOUTING)
I will shoot you!
Listen, Andy, no one wants to shoot anyone here. All right?
Now, it's over. Andy? Look at me, son? It's over mate.
Just put the gun down. Let's end this properly, come on.
It's over. I'm not going back to prison!
Andy! Look at me! I don't want you to get shot here, son,
and you don't really want to shoot me, so, let's all just take a breath,
and calm down. I was just protecting her!
It's over mate. Just think about this. You're a war hero, all right?
A war hero. Bags of respect, you've been decorated.
You don't want it to end drunk in some -
(GUNSHOT) (SQUEAL)
Put the gun down! Put it down! Get on the floor! On the floor!
(SOBS)
Thank you so much, thank you so much.
OK. It's over. Up you get.
Her name's Joanne Vickery and she's Andy Bishop's ex,
but she claims he kidnapped her when he got out of prison.
Any truth in that story? Well, her nan's in there with her,
and she says she hasn't seen her in six months.
I don't understand. My granddaughter's just been rescued,
why are we in a police station? Mrs Vickery,
your granddaughter's been arrested. What for? She's done nothing wrong.
Joanne, would you tell the CPS what you told me earlier?
Andy came round my house, after he was released,
and he said that we was gonna be together.
I was really scared because he could lose it.
I said to him that I was seeing someone else,
just to get rid of him. But he went mad,
and he dragged me back to his car, and he said that -
He used to beat her all the time.
That's why he was banged up, for breaking her jaw.
When did you start going out with him? I was 17.
She was still a kid. She didn't understand
what sort of an animal he was.
Can I take her home now?
No, Mrs Vickery. Joanne's being charged with five counts of murder.
You're happy with the indictment? Absolutely. Five counts of murder,
four on a joint enterprise. We know she shot Andy Bishop,
she was holding the smoking gun. But you're not so sure?
Well, if you buy the kidnap story, shooting Andy Bishop
could be argued as manslaughter by virtue of loss of control.
And are we buying the kidnap story? Well, according to Joanne's nan
he charmed his way in at 17
and then took control of every part of her life.
He's had her emotionally locked away for years. Hang on,
the woman carried a loaded gun around London
and watched four people murdered without doing a thing.
Yes, watched, that's the joint enterprise. She's guilty of that.
She did nothing to stop him.
But she - Resulting in the deaths of four people.
Shooting Andy Bishop could be seen as the result of domestic violence.
That makes it less clear-cut. 'Less clear-cut' always worries me.
Joanne Vickery did not stab Andy Bishop with a kitchen knife
or even beat him with lead-piping in the library.
She shot him in an off-licence surrounded by armed police.
That's not loss of control, that's a choice.
But would she have a loaded gun if she didn't know Andy Bishop?
If the public see her as a victim you'll struggle to get murder through to a jury.
So we need to make sure that doesn't happen.
Time to put away the liberal textbooks. (SIGHS)
So, Robin, how's your new Batman?
Great. We're a...dynamic duo.
Rubbish. He's driving you mad, I can see it in your eyes.
Don't worry, you'll fall for him. All his assistants do.
Well, when I see his 'assistant' I'll tell her.
Phyllis, what do we have to talk about?
Well, I'm guessing that you both missed the first class in law school
when they distinguished between the criminal and the victim.
Cute. If Andy Bishop were still with us
I'd happily prosecute him as well.
And as he isn't you're happy putting his victim in the dock instead?
It's murder, Phyl. She stood by, holding a gun,
and did nothing where four people were shot.
She deserves to get life. She's not guilty of anything.
You should drop all the charges. Never gonna happen.
She was key to the crime by holding a gun and intimidating people.
Joanne was systematically abused by Bishop in a one-sided relationship
since she was 17. He dictated who her friends were,
where she went, what she did - This is not a poster-girl
for the fight against domestic violence.
She shot Bishop at point blank range.
She had no idea the gun was loaded. She was surprised when it went off.
So why did she pull the trigger? She was nervous, trembling,
wanted to get away, there could be a hundred reasons.
We only want one. Her gun was loaded in the Moon Club,
the off-licence, and while driving around Hackney.
Who knows how many more deaths there may have been
if her gun 'went off' somewhere else?
OK, we have ourselves a ball game.
She was not in control of her actions,
had not a clue what his intentions were and was psychologically harmed.
If you're questioning her mental state, she sees our psychiatrist.
All my mum cared about was her next boyfriend.
Most of them would get bored of her eventually
and then they'd try it on with me. I just wanted someone to protect me.
And Andy did that? Yeah, I loved him.
We used to talk about running away together.
Flying to Vegas, getting married.
But we never did.
And Andy broke your jaw, didn't he?
Joanne, why did he hit you?
He always did when I done something wrong. The drink just made it worse.
And why did you go along to the Moon Club?
I had to. I knew what he could be like when he got angry.
I never thought he'd kill no-one.
Least we was together.
You felt closer to him by doing this?
I thought if I went along with it, he'd come back to me.
Like, be the Andy I knew when I first met him.
I still loved him.
Did you ever not love him?
Don't think so. Not even when he broke your jaw?
Put you in hospital?
No.
I believe she was a willing participant,
but not for the reasons we've assumed.
She was scared of him but she also wanted
to turn Andy Bishop back into the hero she first went out with.
So she was with him because she still loved him,
not because she was terrified for her life?
With their kind of relationship it's difficult
to distinguish between the two. It's a fine line.
But a line we're on the right side of?
I'm not sure. Not without spending a lot more time assessing her.
That's not quite the unequivocal 'yes' I was hoping for.
There's maybe something else.
She claims she called the police. To warn them.
There was a lot of crying from her. This place was heaving,
phones going, people shouting, you know.
But did mention Andy Bishop?
I had no idea what she was saying to start with.
Then she said her name was Maggie, that got my attention.
There was a lot more crying and then she said
something along the lines of
'He's coming back, I've gotta go.' Then the phone went dead.
And this was after the details of the masks had been revealed? Yeah.
Was it recorded? For training purposes, so they say.
God knows what anyone could've learnt from that.
You've tried tracing it?
Yes. But we got to a pay-as-you-go number, and that was unregistered.
Were there any other calls like this?
Well, not to me, but I haven't checked all of the call logs.
Thank you, Detective Brooks. That's all I need.
Hammers supporter? Yeah.
Unlucky.
Let's do a bit of digging and see just how many Maggies
called the police that morning.
And what if it was Joanne? If they can't prove it, they can't use it.
Even if we think it was her? She called herself Maggie.
But that's because she knew how she was being represented on the news!
Or because it wasn't Joanne.
Maybe we should consider taking a plea to manslaughter.
Then the jury could acquit her for everything.
I'm still not convinced that she's a murderer.
She didn't shoot Andy Bishop by accident.
No, she shot him because she wasn't in control of her actions!
What, that very moment? I just don't believe it.
Look, Jake, just admit it,
the jury will think that Joanne has already done our job for us.
So you're saying that she wouldn't have done any of this without him?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
So what about Hindley? Or Maxine Carr?
Criminal history is full of women who have been bent and twisted
by an abusive partner but every jury has put them away
because they all thought the same four words, 'They had a choice.'
However tough, they could've said no.
Is there any shade of grey in your world?
Course there is. On a Saturday night in the pub over a pint,
but look at what happened. She killed him when she didn't have to.
Wrap it up in as much sympathy as you like, that's still murder.
It is a clear demonstration of remorse,
a signal she was trying to escape her captor
and bring this terrible tragedy to an end.
Can I ask my learned friend not to refer to Miss Vickery's boyfriend
as her 'captor?' They were living together in a relationship.
Whatever I call him the story remains the same,
she was there against her will.
Was it against her will that they went
to the Odeon cinema on Wednesday the 17th of last month,
or the Slug And Lettuce the week before? I could go on.
And on. All at his demand.
My lord, there were 22 calls to the police station that day
from people claiming to be Maggie Thatcher.
And I can't believe anyone would willingly claim
to be The Thatch unless a little -
Thank you, Mr Thorne, let's leave party political broadcasts outside.
I have an expert witness who has provided a statement
confirming there is a moderate proposition
that the voice on the recording is Joanne Vickery.
I have it here. And I have an expert witness who has provided a statement
confirming there is a moderate proposition that it isn't.
And again. My lord, the prejudicial value of this phone call
gives her story a bias which this court must find unfair.
It outweighs the probative value - I disagree.
This is a matter for the - Miss Gladstone,
I've read both reports and I have to side with Mr Thorne here.
If it was a crank, it could sway the jury unfairly.
I'm ruling that the recording of any calls is inadmissible.
My lord. Thank you, unless you have anything further?
No, my lord.
Court will rise.
Well done. (CLEARS THROAT)
Once more with feeling, Miss Phillips.
I'm not naive, Jake. Murder or manslaughter,
I know we need the strongest possible case to win.
And do you? What?
Want to win? Yes. It's important to him.
That makes it important to us.
Spoken like a true public servant.
Shut up and buy me lunch.
Behind that latex mask is Joanne Vickery. That is not in dispute.
Nor is it in dispute that she alone pulled the trigger
and fired the gun that killed Andy Bishop.
Did she do us all a favour? Some of you may think so
but the truth is this: the law sees what she did as murder.
And so too must you. The defence will paint Joanne Vickery
as a victim. They will play on your sympathies,
tug on your heart-strings.
Do not let them cloud your judgment. Do not be influenced by sentiment.
The real victims are not able to be here
but their relatives are sat behind me at the back of this court
hoping you will make the right choice.
They know she is not a victim.
She could've stopped all this from happening.
So, she is here facing five - five - charges of murder.
If you remember nothing else during this trial, remember this:
one or more of those innocent victims would still be here today
if Joanne had acted sooner.
Their deaths are on her hands.
Could you rewind to the front of the clip, please?
(CLEARS THROAT) I will paint Joanne Vickery as a victim.
Do you know why? Because that is the real picture.
Look at her. Clearly trembling with fear. Out of her depth, frightened,
scared for her life that the man in front of her,
who claimed to love her and yet regularly beat her
hard enough to send her to hospital, would turn the gun on her.
The deaths of four people in the early hours of that tragic day
are a heinous crime, and I wish the true criminal
could receive just punishment. But that can never happen.
Why? Because Andy Bishop is dead.
My client, after years of being trampled on and destroyed
as a person, stood up to an abusive, violent, controlling man.
Who knows how many more innocent people she saved
by acting as she did, stopping a mad, gun-wielding psychopath
in his tracks.
Look at her.
His most innocent victim.
Are you worried the jury is already siding against you?
Phyllis fought hard to present her opening speech
immediately after mine. I can see why now.
Let's hope losing that little battle didn't cost you the war.
I think Judge Redford wanted to level the playing field
after excluding the Maggie phone call.
You pushed for murder when you could have
considered a plea to manslaughter.
Are you slapping my wrist? Checking you know what you're doing.
This is an extremely high-profile case that we're at risk of losing.
Worried about our reputation? No.
I'm worried about yours. Don't lean on our friendship, Jake.
The DPP has told me he's keeping a close eye on you,
new kid on the block and all that. If Joanne Vickery
is acquitted, you could end up losing a lot more than this case.
I believe she should go down for murder. But can you win with that?
Yes.
Good, because you need a few more victories under your belt.
Blow this and you could be out on your ear before you've really begun.
Mr Bishop, would you raise your right hand?
Could you turn it around so the jury can see the back?
Is that a scar?
Yeah.
How did you get it? Andy stabbed me with a fork.
Why did he do that? Because I wouldn't give him the remote.
The remote for the television?
After he stabbed you in the hand,
who looked after the remote in your flat?
Andy.
How much do you weigh?
I don't know. 13, 13Â½ stone.
Any idea how much Miss Vickery weighs?
Please, my lord, relevance of the witnesses vital statistics?
I'll tell you. She weighs seven stone, four pounds.
Almost half your weight. Your brother stabs you once
and you do whatever he says, is that right?
Yeah. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
No further questions.
Andy seemed like a nice lad at first. Always looking out for her.
How did the relationship develop?
They moved in together when she was 19.
After that we saw less and less of her.
And when... and when we did she'd always have a new bruise
over her eyes or cuts on her arms.
And when he broke her jaw?
He'd been on a bender.
We went to the hospital to see her. You were in such a terrible state.
And she swore never again. He went to prison for it.
Thank you.
Mrs Vickery, did your granddaughter
give evidence at Andy Bishop's ABH trial?
Yes, eventually.
So, she stood up to him?
It took us ages to convince her and still she wasn't happy about it.
Terrified at what he'd do if he was let off.
But, however hard it was, she still finally
stood up to him and helped put him away? Yes.
'Fresh start' you said. Away from Andy. She stopped dying her hair,
she went on a diet.
She looked lovely.
She wanted to go back to college
cos she left school before she got her exams.
She was suspended, wasn't she?
From one school. For extended truancy?
She ran away. Said she'd got some work in a club in town, somewhere.
She was back after a few weeks.
So, she didn't hate her life at home that much?
It was her mum. She wouldn't abandon her... she loved her.
What, like she loved Andy Bishop? I mean, let's be honest,
Joanne was never going to get a fresh start, was she, Mrs Vickery?
However much she changed her hair style,
she was always going to go back to him
because she deluded herself that she could change him.
Truth is, she would have done anything
to prove that she loved him,
including helping in the abduction and murder of an innocent bystander
and the cold-blooded shooting of three other members of the public.
I don't think Mrs Vickery likes you.
That's OK, we're not paid to be liked. Good job.
Do we have a picture of Joanne Vickery before she had her makeover?
Don't know. Sure we can get hold of one.
Look, the police showed me this. I'd never seen Joanne before the trial.
You are sure?
We get a lot of staff turnover, Miss Phillips.
Just for a few weeks about six years ago.
Look, believe me, if I could help you, I would.
Since Helen...
Look, I don't even want to be here.
This place, it's all her. I just want to pack a bag and leave
but I can't.
Because this place, it's all her.
It's all I have left.
What about this one?
It was taken around the time she may have worked here.
That's the same girl? Yes. Joanne Vickery.
She was 16 at the time.
This is really great work.
See this? Pretty face. Me, more than.
Yeah, I'm getting that. Why didn't you take me with you?
To a club?
You haven't seen me on a dance floor. I can throw some shapes.
Let's see how she reacts to this in court.
You seemed to be living as a very affectionate couple.
Cinema visits, Friday night at the local curry house.
I had to pretend. Otherwise he'd have really hurt me.
You're that good at pretending?
If you're worried about getting a smack in the mouth, you get pretty good at it, yeah.
Are you pretending now? Why? Are you going to smack me in the mouth?
Why did you go with him? Were you excited by the idea?
No. He made me go. I was terrified.
Really? You weren't turned on just a little bit
by the power you had when you were with him?
I never wanted him to shoot anyone.
So what did you want?
I just thought we was gonna to rob the place.
And how did you feel when he shot Napalm?
I felt sick.
You know who Napalm is?
Yeah, he's the barman.
Yet we've only ever referred to him in this court as Mr Palmer.
Tell the jury how you know the barman well enough
to recognise his nickname.
Did you not work at the Moon Club
when you ran away from home six years ago?
You knew how they cashed up and where they kept the money,
didn't you?
Miss Vickery, you are under oath.
Yes, yeah, I worked there for about three weeks.
Why were you fired? I wasn't fired.
Didn't Mr Palmer discover your real age and have you fired?
He didn't fire me. I ran away.
Back home? Yes.
But you'd just run away from home. I don't understand.
Me and Napalm went out for a bit.
But he dumped me after we'd, y'know...
After you'd slept together?
He told me he loved me and then he just ignored me.
I wanted to carry on but he said if I didn't leave him alone
he'd tell the boss my real age.
You told Andy Bishop, didn't you?
You told Andy what Nathan Palmer had done.
When did you tell him?
We was having an argument. Andy always thought that he was my first.
I wanted to hurt him so I told him he wasn't.
I told him about Napalm. About Nathan.
Miss Vickery, when did you tell Andy this story?
The night before it all kicked off.
I only thought he was going to scare him, I swear.
And that's what you wanted, wasn't it?
To get your own back on an ex-boyfriend for hurting you
all those years ago. You told a dangerous, violent man,
about your first sexual partner because you wanted to hurt him.
You knew what he would do when you told him the story
about the Moon Club, didn't you?
You knew he'd react like this.
None of those people would have been murdered,
if you hadn't lit the fuse.
No further questions.
Last chance before the closing speeches.
Drop murder and we'll plead to manslaughter.
You still think you have a case left?
Jacob, hasn't she suffered enough? Why does she have to get life?
She knew how dangerous Andy Bishop could be
but she used Nathan Palmer's name as leverage during a domestic.
She didn't know he was going to kill him. Yes, she did.
Or at least she knew he'd try. She wanted to punish
all the men in her life who'd caused her pain.
I can understand that. She saw her opportunity and she took it.
She didn't care how many Helen Shanes or Claire Bowyers got in the way.
To her they were just collateral damage.
Members of the jury, in relation to count one
on the indictment alleging the murder of Helen Shane,
do you find the defendant, Joanne Vickery, guilty or not guilty?
Guilty.
(GASPS)
In relation to count two on the indictment alleging the murder
(VOICE FADES) of Nathan Palmer,
do you find the defendant, Joanne Vickery, guilty or not guilty?
Guilty.
(COURT PROCEEDINGS FADE OUT)
Phyllis is not letting this one go.
She's getting a whole new psych evaluation done.
A file this thick to put forward in mitigation.
You don't have to fight it if you don't want to.
Let one of the juniors step-up, that's how I learnt.
No, I do want to.
Helen. Claire. Armin. Nathan.
All of them had lives left to lead. What a waste.
Jake, we won the case. Move on.
What, like Frank Shane?
Sometimes, just winning isn't enough.
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