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In the criminal justice system, the
people are represented

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by two separate yet equally important
groups.

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The police who investigate crime

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and the Crown Prosecutors who
prosecute the offenders.

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These are their stories.

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They ran through from the bar,
in this direction.

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He was 6', she was 5'5". Blimey.

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Oi! Hang on, there's blood
everywhere here,

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I don't want your plates of meat
trampling through it.

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Go the other way. Use the other door.

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Alan.
Yeah.

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There's evidence needs photographing.
Can you get that done for me? OK.

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Thank you. Sorry, Matty, you were
saying?

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Yeah, wearing masks. Latex. He was
either Tony Blair or David Cameron,

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witness couldn't tell the
difference. She was Maggie Thatcher.

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There's no mistaking her, that's for
sure.

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Right, Joy, what have you got?

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Four bullet wounds, two at close
range.

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From the angle of entry I'd say the
one to the head was first

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and the rest are just making sure.

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How sure do you have to be?

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How's our Goth girl doing?

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She's not. Time of death, 2:39.

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It's like the OK Corral,
what's happened?

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Excuse me, DS Brooks!
Yeah, wait there, please, thank you.

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Yes, sir, how can we help?

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I'm, I'm the cleaner.
Mr...?

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Barnes, Stuart Barnes.

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Did you see anything, Mr Barnes?
No. I got here for my shift

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and went to talk to Helen like I
always do.

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And Helen is?
Helen Shane. The manager.

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I always start in her office, I
change the water for her flowers.

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That's where I've been. I heard the
gunshots, so I stayed there,

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I didn't know what else to do. So
where is Helen Shane now, Mr Barnes?

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This is her handbag. I found it
outside the toilet.

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The strap's torn.

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Now I can't find her. I heard the
gunshots. I was terrified.

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If I hadn't hidden in the office -
You did the right thing.

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We need you to calm down right now and
talk to one of our officers if that's OK?

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(MOBILE PHONE RINGS)
Er, Julie? Devlin.

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Take Mr Barnes' description of Helen
Shane please,

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and get it back to me as soon as you
can, all right?

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We may have a hostage situation.
Oh my God.

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You go with Julie, Mr Barnes. Thank
you very much. Take it easy.

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We've got to end this before somebody
else gets hurt.

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Too late. Neighbourhood offy, guy
and a girl wearing masks,

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just shot the owner dead.

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Law and Order UK

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Season 5, Episode 4
"Tick Tock"

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Sync and corrected by
www.addic7ed.com

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It was so fast and at the same time,
seemed to be in slow-motion.

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And there was just the two of them?
Bloke, well built, I guess.

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Skinny girl, nothing to her at all.

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There wasn't another woman -
Helen Shane?

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30-ish, short brown hair, tattoo on
the back of her neck?

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She might have been in the car, a
silver car. Did you catch the make?

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A Citroen or a Peugeot?
Thank you.

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The uniformed officer will escort
you. Sir.

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Two hits to the chest. Point blank.
What a mess.

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Well, I'll add the silver car to the
old description.

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Why would they shoot him? I mean, the
tills haven't been broken into.

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Well, let's hope that's not a fake.

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(HUBBUB OF PHONES AND VOICES)

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Three bodies in 30 minutes.

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I need a risk assessment from a CO19
unit as soon as. OK.

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Give me something in the next couple
of hours.

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I've got the media already setting
up camp outside,

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and Callaghan wanting me to do a
press conference for breakfast news.

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Lab's doing blood analysis from the
club.

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And SOCO are dusting for prints at
the offy.

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No-one's turned up at Helen Shane's
flat, uniform are there in case.

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Fingers crossed she's still alive.

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Look at the way she's holding that
gun.

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The recoil from that would knock her
arm into her face if she fired that.

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Guv, night club owner's just
arrived.

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I put him in one of the interview
rooms. It's Helen Shane's brother.

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She's my twin. Not erm...identical,
lucky for her.

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Is there any reason why someone
would target her specifically?

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No. She got on with everyone.

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And she manages the club?
Yeah. We set up business together

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about ten years ago.

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Can't believe we're still open, to
be honest,

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but that's all down to her. She's
got the brains.

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So, she closes up alone, does she?

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We've got two rooms, a main floor
and a chill-out zone.

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Each has a bar. Helen closes the
chill bar, cashes up

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and then brings everything to
Napalm. Napalm?

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Nickname.

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Was a nickname.

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For Nathan Palmer. The head barman.

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Right, so all the money in the
building is all in one place

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just before closing?

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Napalm puts everything in the safe

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and then we take it to the bank in
the morning.

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So Bonnie and Clyde hit the club at
exactly the right time,

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exactly the right place, and Helen,
who cashes up, has disappeared.

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She's not involved. She wouldn't do
that.

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Anyone at the club knows how we cash
up. Anyone with a grudge?

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There's no-one here, Ron.

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o you were a bouncer at the Moon
Club? Yeah, so?

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Any particular reason why you left?

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Yeah. Owner's an idiot. Lives in
some fantasy world

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where you don't pay minimum wage.
Check him out.

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Right, we'll be sure to do that.
When were you last there?

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Few weeks ago. He still owes me a
month's money.

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Did you see Helen Shane when you
were there?

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Owner reckons you had a
schoolboy crush on Miss

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Shane. Or was that
another of his fantasies?

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What did she do? Knock you back?
Dent your pride?

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I don't know what you're on about.
The only thing dented was her car.

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She nearly ran me over.
What was she driving?

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Peugeot.
Colour?

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Silver. Why?

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Already on it.
(KEYPAD BEEPS)

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TV REPORTER: I'm just outside the
Moon Club in central London.

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All right, Ange? Good to see you out
and about.

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Yeah, I'm off home, thought I may as
well update you on my way.

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Right, what have you got?
Silver Peugeot 406. '52 plate,

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registered to Helen Shane,
description's gone out

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to all boroughs but nothing found
yet.

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So, what do we think then? Helen
Shane becomes a target.

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Is it because she's off home and has
got an easy get-away car?

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Well, if that's the case, then we
should be checking the CCTV

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from local tube stations. See if we
can find out

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which route Tony and Maggie took to
get here.

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Unless they did come in a car.
Nicked a better one?

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I checked these streets and there
was a W registered Toyota here.

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Reported stolen by a Mrs Annabel
Scott at midday Tuesday.

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Flat tyre.

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Forensics are sending a truck to
take it back to the station.

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Well, tell the lab boys we couldn't
wait.

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Twix wrapper, empty vodka bottle.
Ron...

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Well, no white powder.

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What do you reckon? Weed? Resin?

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Yeah, could be. And a receipt from
Nobo's News, dated yesterday.

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Cigarette papers, packet of fags,
two items saying Old St Louis.

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That is tobacco, Old St Louis. You
don't hear of it much these days.

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My old man smoked it. Do us a favour,
call the owner of this car, will you?

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Find out what state it was in when
she last had it. Yes, sir.

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Thank you. Cos my guessing is, she's
no pot-head.

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Whoever sold this could give us

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a description of our killers without
their masks on.

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You any idea how many people buy
fags from Nobo's?

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We're on the way to a tube station,
for God's sake.

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I can't remember one bloke. Well,
you know, I appreciate that, Ruby,

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I really, really do, but this is very
important.

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A woman's life is in danger and you
might be able to help.

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So just try and think back to
yesterday morning

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and remember something. Anything.

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I think he had a denim
jacket. Well, there

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you are, good, that's
great. How hard was that?

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A denim jacket. Anything you remember
about him that he didn't have?

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Like what? How can I remember what
he didn't have?

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Well, like a beard, for instance.

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Oh, right. I get it.

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Yeah.

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And?

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What? Well did he or did he not have
a beard?

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He had, like, stubble.
Great, stubble.

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Er... How's it going?

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Well, slowly, but slowly, you know.

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Forensics pulled
loads of prints from the Toyota.

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One partial who's not the owner but
not enough for an ID.

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And how's the press conference going?

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Pretty rough. Press going crazy
calling it a gun spree.

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TV crews everywhere, think Christmas
has come early.

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We've found the Peugeot.

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Boys, it's just round the corner,
the other side of the estate.

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No-one in it. I've got plain-clothes
on both ends

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and on every side street.

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All clear?
For now.

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So, what are we waiting for?

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Hang on, they don't know that we've
found the car yet.

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It could be full of prints, give us
an ID.

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Or they could have gone for a coffee.

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They might come straight back if we
wait here a few minutes.

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While Helen Shane does what? File
her nails?

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Oh, bloody news crews, do they never
give up?

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Not once they've smelled blood.

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Right, we'll quick before they get
any pictures.

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It's not locked.

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Same left-over baccy packet and more
vodka.

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Maybe one of our killers has a drink
problem?

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Or needed Dutch courage to pull the
trigger.

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Gov, Ron...

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Helen Shane.

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No reports of any other cars stolen
where we found the Peugeot.

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Well, might not have noticed yet.

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Helen Shane had only been dead a
couple of hours

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by the time we found her. Shot in
the back and bled out.

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What a way to go. Hello, Brooks?

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Forensics found another partial
print. Is it good enough?

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Matches the partial from the Toyota.

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Listen up, everyone, shut up! Quiet
please!

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Says her name's Maggie.
As in Thatcher?

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Could be. Where are you, love?
Can you tell me, please?

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(SOBBING)
Oh God, he's coming!

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Who's coming, love? What's going on?
He's coming back. I've gotta go.

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(DIAL TONE)
Do you reckon it was our Maggie?

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Could be. Or a crank.
(PHONE RINGS)

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Didn't seem like a crank.
Why didn't she leave her name?

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Maybe her real name is Maggie.
We have a fingerprint match.

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We know who one of them is.

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Andy Bishop. 31. Ex-serviceman,

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decorated during a tour of Iraq
seven years ago,

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but had difficulty readjusting to
civilian life.

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According to medical reports he went
through an alcohol detox programme

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twice since leaving. Last year

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he was done for ABH for a domestic
dispute,

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but he was out six months ago.
Since then no known address.

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Probation officer?

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Yes, he had one, but Andy never
showed up for his appointments.

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So any known contacts?

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His mother suffers from MS,

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she's living in a home in Essex,
dad's dead.

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Who was the domestic with?
His ex-girlfriend.

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We're trying to track her down. He
also has a brother, Sam,

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who lives in Hackney.

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Help yourself, look around. Make
sure you check out

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the other six bedrooms?
Don't they need a warrant for this?

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Oi! Don't you need a warrant for
this?

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Do you smoke, Mr Bishop?

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Used to. Gave up when the bird got
bumped. The bird?

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You sure about that?

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I have a spliff now and again.
Y'know, just personal use.

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And have you seen your brother
lately?

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I knew this was about Andy.
Didn't I tell -

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Have you seen your brother, Mr
Bishop?

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Not since he got out of prison, why?
Why?!

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Did you miss the news this morning?
Cos we think he's killed four people

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and then gone on the run with a
loaded gun, that's why.

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Has he scored since his release?
How would I know?

233
00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,605
He's a dope-head and the first thing
he would have done

234
00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,840
after getting out is come to see
someone who could offer him a toke.

235
00:13:00,875 --> 00:13:02,885
You need a warrant.
I've seen it on TV.

236
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,525
Unless you've got something useful to
say, shut up.

237
00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:08,760
Oi, don't tell her to shut up!
What're you going to do? Sam? Eh?

238
00:13:08,795 --> 00:13:11,160
Big man in front of his girlfriend.

239
00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,040
Just tell us where your brother is.

240
00:13:17,075 --> 00:13:19,000
I don't know, I swear to god.

241
00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,880
OK, what's the name of his dealer?

242
00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,180
Just give us a name, then we'll be on
our way

243
00:13:26,215 --> 00:13:28,405
and we'll leave you to your domestic
bliss.

244
00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,720
Or we can continue this conversation
down the station. Both of you.

245
00:13:31,755 --> 00:13:34,325
Oh, no way, you're 'aving a laugh,
aren't you?

246
00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360
I ain't going like this. I need to
take a piss every 30 seconds.

247
00:13:37,395 --> 00:13:39,600
Babe, don't -
Don't 'babe' me.

248
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,480
Kyle Branning. He gets his gear off
Kyle Branning.

249
00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,800
(HEAVY THUMP)

250
00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,520
Kyle Branning?
Yeah.

251
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,980
Sit down, son, before you fall down.

252
00:13:59,015 --> 00:14:01,325
Do you supply Andy Bishop?
Who?

253
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,640
Andy Bishop. Big bloke, 'bout 30,
does he score his gear from you?

254
00:14:04,675 --> 00:14:07,445
You're going down for a long time,
Kyle, with all this,

255
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640
so the more helpful you are now the
less painful it will be.

256
00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,205
How old are you, son?
19.

257
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200
You ever been in a prison, Kyle?

258
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,420
That bloke we nicked, Ron. Big
fella,

259
00:14:18,455 --> 00:14:20,445
doing ten years for armed robbery.

260
00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840
He eats boys like you for breakfast.
No, he don't eat them, he -

261
00:14:23,875 --> 00:14:25,805
Yes, Ron, I think we got the
picture.

262
00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960
All right. He gets some weed off me.
Sometimes.

263
00:14:28,995 --> 00:14:30,960
Good lad. Anything else?

264
00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760
Kyle? Don't make me play bad cop.

265
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,360
You wouldn't like him when he plays
bad cop.

266
00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,685
He didn't pay for it.
What? You want to report a theft?

267
00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,800
No. He said he didn't have no cash,
and I said I don't do credit,

268
00:14:48,835 --> 00:14:54,040
and then he pulled a gun. SIG Sauer
P226.

269
00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,320
What? I like army stuff.

270
00:15:00,355 --> 00:15:02,297
And when was this?

271
00:15:02,332 --> 00:15:04,240
Day before yesterday.

272
00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,120
'I like army stuff.' How do kids like
that function in the world?

273
00:15:08,155 --> 00:15:11,000
He doesn't, does he? He's living in
a smoke-filled bubble.

274
00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:13,245
(PHONE RINGS)
I'll get on to ballistics.

275
00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,960
Find out where army issue knockoffs
are being traded.

276
00:15:15,995 --> 00:15:17,965
Hello, Devlin.

277
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,240
Another hit, on a newsagent,
Shoreditch.

278
00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,320
You called us here for these two? I
heard on the radio male-female team.

279
00:15:24,355 --> 00:15:26,165
We said they were through puberty!

280
00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,205
I called you as soon as he called
me. They were shop-lifting!

281
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,440
She gets me to reach for something at
the back of my shop, then he nick my fags.

282
00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:35,165
You shouldn't even be smoking.

283
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,840
We don't. They're bad for you. We
sell 'em at school to the year tens.

284
00:15:38,875 --> 00:15:40,965
You better stop watching The
Apprentice.

285
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,080
Are you gonna nick 'em? I want
justice! Not today, Rhiz.

286
00:15:44,115 --> 00:15:46,080
Check next time, yeah?

287
00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720
Ronnie?
You sell Old St Louis tobacco?

288
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,240
Yeah, so?

289
00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,300
What do you think you're doing?

290
00:15:57,335 --> 00:15:59,045
We told you, we haven't seen him.

291
00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440
You told us you didn't smoke!
What's that got to do with anything?

292
00:16:02,475 --> 00:16:04,965
Well you see, I can smell tobacco in
here,

293
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,740
which isn't the smell of a
now-and-again spliff,

294
00:16:07,775 --> 00:16:10,445
so if you're not smoking the tobacco,
who is?

295
00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400
It's next door. I tell them to stop
but they won't listen.

296
00:16:13,435 --> 00:16:15,857
How long do you think we've been
doing this?

297
00:16:15,892 --> 00:16:18,245
This is harassment. I am pregnant,
you know.

298
00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,120
We can see that, but do you know what
I find very strange?

299
00:16:21,155 --> 00:16:23,917
It's laundry day, and not one item
belonging to you

300
00:16:23,952 --> 00:16:26,680
is on these clothes horses.
So, where do you live?

301
00:16:26,715 --> 00:16:28,565
What're you talking about?

302
00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,560
Cos you don't live here, do you?

303
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,360
Brewer Street. Ten minutes walk from
here.

304
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,640
Armed police, stay where you are!
Armed police!

305
00:16:40,675 --> 00:16:42,600
Room clear!
Room clear.

306
00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,405
Nobody home.

307
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,325
They ran out of booze.

308
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760
Maybe they went to some more.
Well, I would've.

309
00:16:49,795 --> 00:16:52,160
We just passed one round the corner.
Right.

310
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,560
You up for this?
Oh yeah. Let's go.

311
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,120
(TYRES SQUEAL)

312
00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,760
Got any bread?
I dunno.

313
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,600
All right Andy. You OK? I just want
to talk to you for a minute.

314
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,220
Get on the floor.
Take it easy -

315
00:17:38,255 --> 00:17:40,520
Get on the floor! Now!
(SHOUTING)

316
00:17:40,555 --> 00:17:42,085
I will shoot you!

317
00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:45,040
Listen, Andy, no one wants to shoot
anyone here. All right?

318
00:17:45,075 --> 00:17:48,037
Now, it's over. Andy? Look at me,
son? It's over mate.

319
00:17:48,072 --> 00:17:51,000
Just put the gun down.
Let's end this properly, come on.

320
00:17:51,035 --> 00:17:53,445
It's over.
I'm not going back to prison!

321
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,605
Andy! Look at me! I don't want you to
get shot here, son,

322
00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,280
and you don't really want to shoot
me, so, let's all just take a breath,

323
00:18:00,315 --> 00:18:02,605
and calm down.
I was just protecting her!

324
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,120
It's over mate. Just think about
this. You're a war hero, all right?

325
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,200
A war hero. Bags of respect, you've
been decorated.

326
00:18:11,235 --> 00:18:13,560
You don't want it to end drunk
in some -

327
00:18:13,595 --> 00:18:15,520
(GUNSHOT)
(SQUEAL)

328
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,360
Put the gun down! Put it down! Get
on the floor! On the floor!

329
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840
(SOBS)

330
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,320
Thank you so much, thank you so
much.

331
00:18:31,355 --> 00:18:33,320
OK. It's over. Up you get.

332
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,325
Her name's Joanne Vickery and she's
Andy Bishop's ex,

333
00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,820
but she claims he kidnapped her when
he got out of prison.

334
00:18:45,855 --> 00:18:49,280
Any truth in that story? Well, her
nan's in there with her,

335
00:18:49,315 --> 00:18:51,720
and she says she hasn't seen her in
six months.

336
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,560
I don't understand. My
granddaughter's just been rescued,

337
00:18:59,595 --> 00:19:02,005
why are we in a police station?
Mrs Vickery,

338
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,120
your granddaughter's been arrested.
What for? She's done nothing wrong.

339
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,600
Joanne, would you tell the CPS what
you told me earlier?

340
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,720
Andy came round my house, after he
was released,

341
00:19:18,755 --> 00:19:23,120
and he said that we was gonna be
together.

342
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,480
I was really scared because he could
lose it.

343
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000
I said to him that I was seeing
someone else,

344
00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:32,965
just to get rid of him. But he went
mad,

345
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,680
and he dragged me back to his car,
and he said that -

346
00:19:35,715 --> 00:19:38,445
He used to beat her all the time.

347
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,980
That's why he was banged up, for
breaking her jaw.

348
00:19:41,015 --> 00:19:43,480
When did you start going out with
him? I was 17.

349
00:19:43,515 --> 00:19:46,160
She was still a kid. She didn't
understand

350
00:19:46,195 --> 00:19:48,160
what sort of an animal he was.

351
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,605
Can I take her home now?

352
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,880
No, Mrs Vickery. Joanne's being
charged with five counts of murder.

353
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,360
You're happy with the indictment?
Absolutely. Five counts of murder,

354
00:20:11,395 --> 00:20:14,377
four on a joint enterprise.
We know she shot Andy Bishop,

355
00:20:14,412 --> 00:20:17,406
she was holding the smoking gun.
But you're not so sure?

356
00:20:17,441 --> 00:20:20,365
Well, if you buy the kidnap story,
shooting Andy Bishop

357
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,685
could be argued as manslaughter by
virtue of loss of control.

358
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000
And are we buying the kidnap story?
Well, according to Joanne's nan

359
00:20:27,035 --> 00:20:28,765
he charmed his way in at 17

360
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,045
and then took control of every part
of her life.

361
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,920
He's had her emotionally locked away
for years. Hang on,

362
00:20:33,955 --> 00:20:36,565
the woman carried a loaded gun
around London

363
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,845
and watched four people murdered
without doing a thing.

364
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840
Yes, watched, that's the joint
enterprise. She's guilty of that.

365
00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:45,845
She did nothing to stop him.

366
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,285
But she - Resulting in the deaths of
four people.

367
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,800
Shooting Andy Bishop could be seen as
the result of domestic violence.

368
00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:56,200
That makes it less clear-cut.
'Less clear-cut' always worries me.

369
00:20:56,235 --> 00:20:59,760
Joanne Vickery did not stab Andy
Bishop with a kitchen knife

370
00:20:59,795 --> 00:21:02,325
or even beat him with lead-piping in
the library.

371
00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:05,560
She shot him in an off-licence
surrounded by armed police.

372
00:21:05,595 --> 00:21:08,405
That's not loss of control,
that's a choice.

373
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,725
But would she have a loaded gun if
she didn't know Andy Bishop?

374
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720
If the public see her as a victim you'll
struggle to get murder through to a jury.

375
00:21:15,755 --> 00:21:18,617
So we need to make sure that doesn't
happen.

376
00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:21,480
Time to put away the liberal
textbooks. (SIGHS)

377
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,500
So, Robin, how's your new Batman?

378
00:21:30,535 --> 00:21:33,245
Great. We're a...dynamic duo.

379
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,940
Rubbish. He's driving you mad, I can
see it in your eyes.

380
00:21:36,975 --> 00:21:40,600
Don't worry, you'll fall for him.
All his assistants do.

381
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,280
Well, when I see his 'assistant' I'll
tell her.

382
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,845
Phyllis, what do we have to talk
about?

383
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,360
Well, I'm guessing that you both
missed the first class in law school

384
00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:56,440
when they distinguished between the
criminal and the victim.

385
00:21:56,475 --> 00:21:59,360
Cute. If Andy Bishop were still with
us

386
00:21:59,395 --> 00:22:01,125
I'd happily prosecute him as well.

387
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,240
And as he isn't you're happy putting
his victim in the dock instead?

388
00:22:05,275 --> 00:22:07,757
It's murder, Phyl. She stood by,
holding a gun,

389
00:22:07,792 --> 00:22:10,205
and did nothing
where four people were shot.

390
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,100
She deserves to get life.
She's not guilty of anything.

391
00:22:13,135 --> 00:22:15,925
You should drop all the charges.
Never gonna happen.

392
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,460
She was key to the crime by holding
a gun and intimidating people.

393
00:22:19,495 --> 00:22:22,960
Joanne was systematically abused by
Bishop in a one-sided relationship

394
00:22:22,995 --> 00:22:26,445
since she was 17. He dictated who
her friends were,

395
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480
where she went, what she did -
This is not a poster-girl

396
00:22:29,515 --> 00:22:31,497
for the fight against domestic
violence.

397
00:22:31,532 --> 00:22:33,445
She shot Bishop at point blank
range.

398
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,040
She had no idea the gun was loaded.
She was surprised when it went off.

399
00:22:37,075 --> 00:22:42,800
So why did she pull the trigger?
She was nervous, trembling,

400
00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:45,517
wanted to get away, there could be a
hundred reasons.

401
00:22:45,552 --> 00:22:48,176
We only want one.
Her gun was loaded in the Moon Club,

402
00:22:48,211 --> 00:22:50,705
the off-licence, and while driving
around Hackney.

403
00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:53,200
Who knows how many more deaths there
may have been

404
00:22:53,235 --> 00:22:55,337
if her gun 'went off' somewhere else?

405
00:22:55,372 --> 00:22:57,405
OK, we have ourselves a ball game.

406
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,605
She was not in control of her
actions,

407
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,800
had not a clue what his intentions
were and was psychologically harmed.

408
00:23:04,835 --> 00:23:08,520
If you're questioning her mental
state, she sees our psychiatrist.

409
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760
All my mum cared about was her next
boyfriend.

410
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,045
Most of them would get bored of her
eventually

411
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,720
and then they'd try it on with me.
I just wanted someone to protect me.

412
00:23:23,755 --> 00:23:27,760
And Andy did that?
Yeah, I loved him.

413
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,200
We used to talk about running away
together.

414
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560
Flying to Vegas, getting married.

415
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,320
But we never did.

416
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,880
And Andy broke your jaw, didn't he?

417
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,680
Joanne, why did he hit you?

418
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,200
He always did when I done something
wrong. The drink just made it worse.

419
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280
And why did you go along to the Moon
Club?

420
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840
I had to. I knew what he could be
like when he got angry.

421
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800
I never thought he'd kill no-one.

422
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,320
Least we was together.

423
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,680
You felt closer to him by doing
this?

424
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,200
I thought if I went along with it,
he'd come back to me.

425
00:24:17,235 --> 00:24:21,680
Like, be the Andy I knew when I
first met him.

426
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,085
I still loved him.

427
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,080
Did you ever not love him?

428
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240
Don't think so.
Not even when he broke your jaw?

429
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,480
Put you in hospital?

430
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,320
No.

431
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,320
I believe she was a willing
participant,

432
00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:44,417
but not for the reasons we've
assumed.

433
00:24:44,452 --> 00:24:46,445
She was scared of him but she also
wanted

434
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760
to turn Andy Bishop back into the
hero she first went out with.

435
00:24:49,795 --> 00:24:52,000
So she was with him because she
still loved him,

436
00:24:52,035 --> 00:24:54,317
not because she was terrified for
her life?

437
00:24:54,352 --> 00:24:56,816
With their kind of relationship it's
difficult

438
00:24:56,851 --> 00:24:59,280
to distinguish between the two. It's
a fine line.

439
00:24:59,315 --> 00:25:01,360
But a line we're on
the right side of?

440
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560
I'm not sure. Not without spending a
lot more time assessing her.

441
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,360
That's not quite the unequivocal
'yes' I was hoping for.

442
00:25:09,395 --> 00:25:11,320
There's maybe something else.

443
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,480
She claims she called the police.
To warn them.

444
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,080
There was a lot of crying from her.
This place was heaving,

445
00:25:22,115 --> 00:25:24,280
phones going, people shouting,
you know.

446
00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:25,845
But did mention Andy Bishop?

447
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,605
I had no idea what she was saying to
start with.

448
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Then she said her name was Maggie,
that got my attention.

449
00:25:31,635 --> 00:25:34,160
There was a lot more crying and then
she said

450
00:25:34,195 --> 00:25:36,165
something along the lines of

451
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,365
'He's coming back, I've gotta
go.' Then the phone went dead.

452
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,320
And this was after the details of
the masks had been revealed? Yeah.

453
00:25:43,355 --> 00:25:46,157
Was it recorded? For training
purposes, so they say.

454
00:25:46,192 --> 00:25:48,960
God knows what anyone could've
learnt from that.

455
00:25:48,995 --> 00:25:50,920
You've tried tracing it?

456
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Yes. But we got to a pay-as-you-go
number, and that was unregistered.

457
00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,645
Were there any other calls like
this?

458
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560
Well, not to me, but I haven't
checked all of the call logs.

459
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,160
Thank you, Detective Brooks.
That's all I need.

460
00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:06,080
Hammers supporter?
Yeah.

461
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Unlucky.

462
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Let's do a bit of digging and see
just how many Maggies

463
00:26:14,835 --> 00:26:16,605
called the police that morning.

464
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,000
And what if it was Joanne? If they
can't prove it, they can't use it.

465
00:26:21,035 --> 00:26:24,165
Even if we think it was her?
She called herself Maggie.

466
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,720
But that's because she knew how she
was being represented on the news!

467
00:26:27,755 --> 00:26:29,765
Or because it wasn't Joanne.

468
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720
Maybe we should consider taking a
plea to manslaughter.

469
00:26:32,755 --> 00:26:35,337
Then the jury could acquit her for
everything.

470
00:26:35,372 --> 00:26:37,920
I'm still not convinced that she's a
murderer.

471
00:26:37,955 --> 00:26:40,245
She didn't shoot Andy Bishop by
accident.

472
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,440
No, she shot him because she wasn't
in control of her actions!

473
00:26:43,475 --> 00:26:46,040
What, that very moment? I just don't
believe it.

474
00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:47,845
Look, Jake, just admit it,

475
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,005
the jury will think that Joanne has
already done our job for us.

476
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,640
So you're saying that she wouldn't
have done any of this without him?

477
00:26:54,675 --> 00:26:57,317
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

478
00:26:57,352 --> 00:26:59,925
So what about Hindley? Or Maxine
Carr?

479
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,280
Criminal history is full of women
who have been bent and twisted

480
00:27:03,315 --> 00:27:06,325
by an abusive partner but every jury
has put them away

481
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,600
because they all thought the same
four words, 'They had a choice.'

482
00:27:10,635 --> 00:27:12,977
However tough, they could've said
no.

483
00:27:13,012 --> 00:27:15,285
Is there any shade of grey in your
world?

484
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,485
Course there is. On a Saturday night
in the pub over a pint,

485
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600
but look at what happened. She
killed him when she didn't have to.

486
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Wrap it up in as much sympathy as
you like, that's still murder.

487
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,805
It is a clear demonstration of
remorse,

488
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,880
a signal she was trying
to escape her captor

489
00:27:36,881 --> 00:27:38,920
and bring this terrible
tragedy to an end.

490
00:27:38,955 --> 00:27:42,280
Can I ask my learned friend not to
refer to Miss Vickery's boyfriend

491
00:27:42,315 --> 00:27:45,440
as her 'captor?' They were living
together in a relationship.

492
00:27:45,475 --> 00:27:47,760
Whatever I call him the story
remains the same,

493
00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:49,605
she was there against her will.

494
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,405
Was it against her will that they
went

495
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,420
to the Odeon cinema on Wednesday the
17th of last month,

496
00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:57,400
or the Slug And Lettuce the week
before? I could go on.

497
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,925
And on.
All at his demand.

498
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,840
My lord, there were 22 calls to the
police station that day

499
00:28:02,875 --> 00:28:04,965
from people claiming to be Maggie
Thatcher.

500
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,360
And I can't believe anyone would
willingly claim

501
00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:09,165
to be The Thatch unless a little -

502
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,120
Thank you, Mr Thorne, let's leave
party political broadcasts outside.

503
00:28:13,155 --> 00:28:16,360
I have an expert witness who has
provided a statement

504
00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:18,885
confirming there is a moderate
proposition

505
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,765
that the voice on the recording is
Joanne Vickery.

506
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520
I have it here. And I have an expert
witness who has provided a statement

507
00:28:25,555 --> 00:28:28,957
confirming there is a moderate
proposition that it isn't.

508
00:28:28,992 --> 00:28:32,156
And again. My lord, the prejudicial
value of this phone call

509
00:28:32,191 --> 00:28:35,320
gives her story a bias which this
court must find unfair.

510
00:28:35,355 --> 00:28:37,757
It outweighs the probative value -
I disagree.

511
00:28:37,792 --> 00:28:40,125
This is a matter for the -
Miss Gladstone,

512
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840
I've read both reports and I have to
side with Mr Thorne here.

513
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,845
If it was a crank, it could sway the
jury unfairly.

514
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120
I'm ruling that the recording of any
calls is inadmissible.

515
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,880
My lord. Thank you,
unless you have anything further?

516
00:28:55,915 --> 00:28:57,677
No, my lord.

517
00:28:57,712 --> 00:28:59,440
Court will rise.

518
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,685
Well done.
(CLEARS THROAT)

519
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160
Once more with feeling,
Miss Phillips.

520
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,325
I'm not naive, Jake. Murder or
manslaughter,

521
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920
I know we need the strongest possible
case to win.

522
00:29:14,955 --> 00:29:16,840
And do you?
What?

523
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Want to win?
Yes. It's important to him.

524
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960
That makes it important to us.

525
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Spoken like a true public servant.

526
00:29:27,235 --> 00:29:29,160
Shut up and buy me lunch.

527
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Behind that latex mask is Joanne
Vickery. That is not in dispute.

528
00:29:36,235 --> 00:29:39,280
Nor is it in dispute that she alone
pulled the trigger

529
00:29:39,315 --> 00:29:41,765
and fired the gun that killed Andy
Bishop.

530
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,885
Did she do us all a favour? Some of
you may think so

531
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,360
but the truth is this: the law sees
what she did as murder.

532
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,440
And so too must you. The defence
will paint Joanne Vickery

533
00:29:53,475 --> 00:29:56,280
as a victim. They will play on your
sympathies,

534
00:29:56,315 --> 00:29:58,520
tug on your heart-strings.

535
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Do not let them cloud your judgment.
Do not be influenced by sentiment.

536
00:30:03,235 --> 00:30:06,365
The real victims are not able to be
here

537
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,520
but their relatives are sat behind
me at the back of this court

538
00:30:10,555 --> 00:30:12,960
hoping you will make the right
choice.

539
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,085
They know she is not a victim.

540
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,805
She could've stopped all this from
happening.

541
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,680
So, she is here facing five - five -
charges of murder.

542
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280
If you remember nothing else during
this trial, remember this:

543
00:30:32,315 --> 00:30:36,040
one or more of those innocent
victims would still be here today

544
00:30:36,075 --> 00:30:38,857
if Joanne had acted sooner.

545
00:30:38,892 --> 00:30:41,605
Their deaths are on her hands.

546
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,765
Could you rewind to the front of the
clip, please?

547
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,640
(CLEARS THROAT) I will paint Joanne
Vickery as a victim.

548
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Do you know why? Because that is the
real picture.

549
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,800
Look at her. Clearly trembling with
fear. Out of her depth, frightened,

550
00:31:00,835 --> 00:31:03,437
scared for her life that the man in
front of her,

551
00:31:03,472 --> 00:31:06,005
who claimed to love her and yet
regularly beat her

552
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,040
hard enough to send her to hospital,
would turn the gun on her.

553
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,840
The deaths of four people in the
early hours of that tragic day

554
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:19,165
are a heinous crime, and I wish the
true criminal

555
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000
could receive just punishment. But
that can never happen.

556
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,720
Why? Because Andy Bishop is dead.

557
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,845
My client, after years of being
trampled on and destroyed

558
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:43,000
as a person, stood up to an abusive,
violent, controlling man.

559
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,805
Who knows how many more innocent
people she saved

560
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,280
by acting as she did, stopping a
mad, gun-wielding psychopath

561
00:31:51,315 --> 00:31:53,397
in his tracks.

562
00:31:53,432 --> 00:31:55,445
Look at her.

563
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120
His most innocent victim.

564
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Are you worried the jury is already
siding against you?

565
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Phyllis fought hard to present her
opening speech

566
00:32:21,595 --> 00:32:24,200
immediately after mine. I can see
why now.

567
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,520
Let's hope losing that little battle
didn't cost you the war.

568
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
I think Judge Redford wanted to
level the playing field

569
00:32:33,315 --> 00:32:35,400
after excluding the Maggie phone
call.

570
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400
You pushed for murder when you could
have

571
00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:41,885
considered a plea to manslaughter.

572
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,045
Are you slapping my wrist? Checking
you know what you're doing.

573
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,880
This is an extremely high-profile
case that we're at risk of losing.

574
00:32:48,915 --> 00:32:50,800
Worried about our reputation?
No.

575
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,720
I'm worried about yours. Don't lean
on our friendship, Jake.

576
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,180
The DPP has told me he's keeping a
close eye on you,

577
00:33:00,215 --> 00:33:02,965
new kid on the block and all that.
If Joanne Vickery

578
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,400
is acquitted, you could end up
losing a lot more than this case.

579
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,880
I believe she should go down for
murder. But can you win with that?

580
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Yes.

581
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Good, because you need a few more
victories under your belt.

582
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Blow this and you could be out on
your ear before you've really begun.

583
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Mr Bishop, would you raise your
right hand?

584
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,480
Could you turn it around so the jury
can see the back?

585
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Is that a scar?

586
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,805
Yeah.

587
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,685
How did you get it?
Andy stabbed me with a fork.

588
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,600
Why did he do that? Because I
wouldn't give him the remote.

589
00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:56,560
The remote for the television?

590
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,005
After he stabbed you in the hand,

591
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960
who looked after the remote in your
flat?

592
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,445
Andy.

593
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,525
How much do you weigh?

594
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,560
I don't know. 13, 13½ stone.

595
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,765
Any idea how much Miss Vickery
weighs?

596
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Please, my lord, relevance of the
witnesses vital statistics?

597
00:34:18,235 --> 00:34:21,997
I'll tell you. She weighs seven
stone, four pounds.

598
00:34:22,032 --> 00:34:25,760
Almost half your weight. Your
brother stabs you once

599
00:34:25,795 --> 00:34:29,600
and you do whatever he says, is that
right?

600
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,200
Yeah. Absolutely.

601
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,440
Absolutely.

602
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,800
No further questions.

603
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,400
Andy seemed like a nice lad at
first. Always looking out for her.

604
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,200
How did the relationship develop?

605
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,460
They moved in together when she was
19.

606
00:34:57,495 --> 00:35:00,320
After that we saw less and less of
her.

607
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,600
And when... and when we did she'd
always have a new bruise

608
00:35:04,635 --> 00:35:07,120
over her eyes or cuts on her arms.

609
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,600
And when he broke her jaw?

610
00:35:11,635 --> 00:35:13,720
He'd been on a bender.

611
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,280
We went to the hospital to see her.
You were in such a terrible state.

612
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,480
And she swore never again.
He went to prison for it.

613
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Thank you.

614
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,765
Mrs Vickery, did your granddaughter

615
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160
give evidence at Andy Bishop's ABH
trial?

616
00:35:35,195 --> 00:35:36,965
Yes, eventually.

617
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,765
So, she stood up to him?

618
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,160
It took us ages to convince her and
still she wasn't happy about it.

619
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Terrified at what he'd do if he was
let off.

620
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,760
But, however hard it was, she still
finally

621
00:35:49,795 --> 00:35:52,525
stood up to him and helped put him
away? Yes.

622
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,680
'Fresh start' you said. Away from
Andy. She stopped dying her hair,

623
00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,797
she went on a diet.

624
00:36:00,832 --> 00:36:02,880
She looked lovely.

625
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,485
She wanted to go back to college

626
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960
cos she left school before she got
her exams.

627
00:36:08,995 --> 00:36:10,920
She was suspended, wasn't she?

628
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,800
From one school.
For extended truancy?

629
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,440
She ran away. Said she'd got some
work in a club in town, somewhere.

630
00:36:20,475 --> 00:36:22,880
She was back after a few weeks.

631
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,045
So, she didn't hate her life at home
that much?

632
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,960
It was her mum. She wouldn't abandon
her... she loved her.

633
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,285
What, like she loved Andy Bishop? I
mean, let's be honest,

634
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Joanne was never going to get a
fresh start, was she, Mrs Vickery?

635
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,560
However much she changed her hair
style,

636
00:36:44,595 --> 00:36:46,525
she was always going
to go back to him

637
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,280
because she deluded herself that she
could change him.

638
00:36:49,315 --> 00:36:51,160
Truth is, she would have done
anything

639
00:36:51,195 --> 00:36:52,885
to prove that she loved him,

640
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,600
including helping in the abduction
and murder of an innocent bystander

641
00:36:56,635 --> 00:37:00,280
and the cold-blooded shooting of
three other members of the public.

642
00:37:00,315 --> 00:37:02,325
I don't think Mrs Vickery likes you.

643
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,880
That's OK, we're not paid to be
liked. Good job.

644
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Do we have a picture of Joanne
Vickery before she had her makeover?

645
00:37:09,515 --> 00:37:11,520
Don't know. Sure we can get hold of
one.

646
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,760
Look, the police showed me this. I'd
never seen Joanne before the trial.

647
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,285
You are sure?

648
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,760
We get a lot of staff turnover, Miss
Phillips.

649
00:37:23,795 --> 00:37:25,760
Just for a few weeks about six years
ago.

650
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,800
Look, believe me, if I could help
you, I would.

651
00:37:29,835 --> 00:37:31,760
Since Helen...

652
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,760
Look, I don't even want to be here.

653
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,920
This place, it's all her. I just
want to pack a bag and leave

654
00:37:39,955 --> 00:37:41,880
but I can't.

655
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,240
Because this place, it's all her.

656
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,520
It's all I have left.

657
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,800
What about this one?

658
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,240
It was taken around the time she may
have worked here.

659
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,840
That's the same girl?
Yes. Joanne Vickery.

660
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,600
She was 16 at the time.

661
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,085
This is really great work.

662
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,885
See this? Pretty face.
Me, more than.

663
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,040
Yeah, I'm getting that. Why didn't
you take me with you?

664
00:38:25,075 --> 00:38:26,765
To a club?

665
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,760
You haven't seen me on a dance floor.
I can throw some shapes.

666
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,800
Let's see how she reacts to this
in court.

667
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000
You seemed to be living as a very
affectionate couple.

668
00:38:42,035 --> 00:38:45,077
Cinema visits, Friday night at the
local curry house.

669
00:38:45,112 --> 00:38:48,120
I had to pretend. Otherwise he'd
have really hurt me.

670
00:38:48,155 --> 00:38:50,045
You're that good at pretending?

671
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,240
If you're worried about getting a smack in
the mouth, you get pretty good at it, yeah.

672
00:38:54,275 --> 00:38:57,800
Are you pretending now? Why? Are you
going to smack me in the mouth?

673
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Why did you go with him? Were you
excited by the idea?

674
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,720
No. He made me go. I was terrified.

675
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,320
Really? You weren't turned on just a
little bit

676
00:39:13,355 --> 00:39:16,400
by the power you had when you were
with him?

677
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000
I never wanted him to shoot anyone.

678
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,600
So what did you want?

679
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,680
I just thought we was gonna to rob
the place.

680
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
And how did you feel when he shot
Napalm?

681
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,760
I felt sick.

682
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,280
You know who Napalm is?

683
00:39:36,315 --> 00:39:38,160
Yeah, he's the barman.

684
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Yet we've only ever referred to him
in this court as Mr Palmer.

685
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Tell the jury how you know the
barman well enough

686
00:39:48,475 --> 00:39:50,400
to recognise his nickname.

687
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,605
Did you not work at the Moon Club

688
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,880
when you ran away from home six
years ago?

689
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
You knew how they cashed up and
where they kept the money,

690
00:40:01,995 --> 00:40:02,920
didn't you?

691
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,240
Miss Vickery, you are under oath.

692
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:15,000
Yes, yeah, I worked there for about
three weeks.

693
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,640
Why were you fired?
I wasn't fired.

694
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,000
Didn't Mr Palmer discover your real
age and have you fired?

695
00:40:22,035 --> 00:40:25,720
He didn't fire me. I ran away.

696
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,320
Back home?
Yes.

697
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,720
But you'd just run away from home.
I don't understand.

698
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,205
Me and Napalm went out for a bit.

699
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,960
But he dumped me after we'd,
y'know...

700
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,760
After you'd slept together?

701
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,600
He told me he loved me and then he
just ignored me.

702
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,640
I wanted to carry on but he said if
I didn't leave him alone

703
00:40:51,675 --> 00:40:53,600
he'd tell the boss my real age.

704
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,680
You told Andy Bishop, didn't you?

705
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,720
You told Andy what Nathan Palmer had
done.

706
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,880
When did you tell him?

707
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,880
We was having an argument. Andy
always thought that he was my first.

708
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
I wanted to hurt him so I told him
he wasn't.

709
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,840
I told him about Napalm.
About Nathan.

710
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,240
Miss Vickery, when did you tell Andy
this story?

711
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,480
The night before it all kicked off.

712
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,560
I only thought he was going to scare
him, I swear.

713
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840
And that's what you wanted, wasn't
it?

714
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,600
To get your own back on an
ex-boyfriend for hurting you

715
00:41:50,635 --> 00:41:53,885
all those years ago. You told a
dangerous, violent man,

716
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,320
about your first sexual partner
because you wanted to hurt him.

717
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560
You knew what he would do when you
told him the story

718
00:42:02,595 --> 00:42:04,440
about the Moon Club, didn't you?

719
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,840
You knew he'd react like this.

720
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
None of those people would have been
murdered,

721
00:42:13,595 --> 00:42:15,280
if you hadn't lit the fuse.

722
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,240
No further questions.

723
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440
Last chance before the closing
speeches.

724
00:42:28,475 --> 00:42:30,840
Drop murder and we'll plead to
manslaughter.

725
00:42:30,875 --> 00:42:32,725
You still think
you have a case left?

726
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Jacob, hasn't she suffered enough?
Why does she have to get life?

727
00:42:36,035 --> 00:42:38,245
She knew how dangerous Andy Bishop
could be

728
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,640
but she used Nathan Palmer's name as
leverage during a domestic.

729
00:42:41,675 --> 00:42:44,337
She didn't know he was going to kill
him. Yes, she did.

730
00:42:44,372 --> 00:42:47,000
Or at least she knew he'd try.
She wanted to punish

731
00:42:47,035 --> 00:42:49,365
all the men in her life who'd caused
her pain.

732
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,725
I can understand that. She saw her
opportunity and she took it.

733
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,440
She didn't care how many Helen Shanes
or Claire Bowyers got in the way.

734
00:42:56,475 --> 00:42:58,640
To her they were just collateral
damage.

735
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,725
Members of the jury, in relation to
count one

736
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,085
on the indictment alleging the
murder of Helen Shane,

737
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560
do you find the defendant, Joanne
Vickery, guilty or not guilty?

738
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,360
Guilty.

739
00:43:16,395 --> 00:43:18,205
(GASPS)

740
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,840
In relation to count two on the
indictment alleging the murder

741
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,765
(VOICE FADES) of Nathan Palmer,

742
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,080
do you find the defendant, Joanne
Vickery, guilty or not guilty?

743
00:43:28,115 --> 00:43:29,085
Guilty.

744
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,080
(COURT PROCEEDINGS FADE OUT)

745
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,165
Phyllis is not letting this one go.

746
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,760
She's getting a whole new psych
evaluation done.

747
00:43:44,795 --> 00:43:47,257
A file this thick to put forward in
mitigation.

748
00:43:47,292 --> 00:43:50,166
You don't have to fight it if you
don't want to.

749
00:43:50,201 --> 00:43:53,040
Let one of the juniors step-up,
that's how I learnt.

750
00:43:53,075 --> 00:43:55,000
No, I do want to.

751
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,720
Helen. Claire. Armin. Nathan.

752
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,520
All of them had lives left to lead.
What a waste.

753
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,760
Jake, we won the case. Move on.

754
00:44:09,795 --> 00:44:11,720
What, like Frank Shane?

755
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,800
Sometimes, just winning isn't
enough.

756
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:25,000
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