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Okay.
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Well, well, well, decided
to jump ship after all?
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I came because you said
you had an emergency of sorts.
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Oh, right, I lied
about that, sorry.
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I do have another case though.
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A little over my head.
Could use some back up.
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What kind of case?
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Phoebe?
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Is there a bathroom?
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Yep, right straight
through there.
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Oh, this is Adam Branch,
by the way.
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He'll be joining us.
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Oh, okay, hi.
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Why does she look familiar?
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Uh, she was on that
reality show, It Takes Two,
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the one that shoots
here in Cincy.
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She's the one whose
husband took his life.
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She's now being sued
by the husband's family,
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whose trial is about to start.
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She hired you?
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People do hire me.
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No, I just meant, it's a pretty
high profile case for a solo.
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Well, she had another
lawyer defending her
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but now she
suddenly lost faith.
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Evidently,
he wants her to settle.
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I'm meeting him after lunch.
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Join me? If I take this over,
I'm going to need help.
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Excuse me, excuse me!
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I was wondering if
you could help me.
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No, I don't know
anything about the shoes.
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You talk to the skinny people.
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No, actually,
I may need a lawyer.
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I think the police
might be after me.
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See, I sort of ran away.
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From what?
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The jury I was serving on.
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We were sequestered for two
months during the trial,
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and we'd been
deliberating for over...
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Oh, don't tell me anything
about deliberations.
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Oh, okay.
Sorry.
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Uh, but it got to
the point where
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Yeah, I sent a note out,
but all the alternates
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had been used up at that time,
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so he said I had
to stick it out.
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But I couldn't.
I just couldn't.
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So, a few days ago...
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A few days ago?
Yes...
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Hey, free for lunch later?
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Uh, it's starting to be
a busy day, Tommy.
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Got it.
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So, a few days ago, I snuck out
of the hotel and I left.
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Oy. Who's the judge?
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Uh, Judge Lester Babcock.
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Babcock.
Never heard of him.
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He's that guy when he gets
upset, he stands and he paces.
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Haven't they come
looking for you?
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I don't know.
I've been hiding
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in my cousin's basement.
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Brianna, I'll level with you,
I've never even heard
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of anybody doing what you did,
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but my gut tells me
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you're in a lot of trouble.
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Thought I recognized her.
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This case is all over the news.
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She's the Runaway Juror.
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My advice would be
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to turn yourself in immediately.
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No. Uh-uh.
I can't.
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I can't go back there.
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Brianna, you have to.
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Alone?
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You want me to go back there
without a lawyer?
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I got it.
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Can we get rid of that thing?
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I turned it off.
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Oh, no, you didn't.
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Pick up your iPad, Cassie.
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Pick up you iPad now,
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and look at me!
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Shh!
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God, I love Skype.
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Let me talk to Ollie.
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Hey, Harry, how's it going?
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New rule: All conjugal visits
end by 8 a.m.
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so you're in here by 9:00.
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Cassie?
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I need you to do
some research for me
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on criminal liability
for skipping out on a jury.
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Hey, Cassie.
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I think they just threw me
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in the corner. Hello?
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Hello?
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Were they naked?
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You do not want a trial.
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If the alternative
is I plead guilty...
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Tina, I never said that you
should plead guilty.
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Yes, you did.
That's a criminal term.
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You haven't been
charged with a crime.
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I keep telling you
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wrongful death
is a civil action.
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What I said, simply,
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is that you should settle.
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Which means admit
that it's my fault
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that my husband killed himself.
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If you go to trial you could
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easily be slapped
with a million dollar judgment.
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You will lose
everything you have.
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Hold on a second.
As far as assets,
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what are we talking about?
You own a house?
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Yes. Me and Eliot had a house
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and I have a little over
a million dollars in the bank.
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A million d...
you have a million dollars?
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Well, I get $70,000 an episode.
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Eliot got 62-five,
it's all community property.
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So between you, you were
making over $130,000
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an episode on this stupid show?
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Thanks for the compliment.
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But, yeah.
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Which is why
I strongly maintain
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you should settle.
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You will not make for
a sympathetic defender.
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This...
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is why I want to replace him.
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Do you know what this case
was about, Ms. Korn?
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Yes, Your Honor,
it was a murder trial and...
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It was about more
than just a murder!
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I stand corrected.
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It was about extra
sheriff's deputies,
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housing out of town
expert witnesses.
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It was about
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the costs of sequestration.
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Room, board, transportation.
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Laundry!
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It was about
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six months of investigation.
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Three months of
pre-trial proceedings.
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Two months of trial.
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It was about $4 million.
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And that's exclusive
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of the personal costs.
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You seem upset.
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Oh, do I?
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This trial was
a wrenching ordeal!
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We have testimony from victims
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who were beaten,
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raped...
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their son was murdered.
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It was enormously
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stressful for those witnesses
to come forward,
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but they did.
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The money, the time...
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the huge emotional hardships
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on everyone connected
with this case,
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and now we have to go through it
all over again,
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and it is all her fault!
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Judge...
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I reviewed this file
and it, um,
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it looks like you were headed
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for a hung jury.
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That is not true!
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It was ten to two to convict
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when she took off.
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Maybe in another day or two
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she would've come to her senses
and we wouldn't have...
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All you proved was that
Lee Michaels was a bad guy.
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You didn't prove...
I don't want
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to hear one word out of you!
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Don't yell at our client!
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If you don't feel like it.
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Your client...
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belongs in jail.
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She's a criminal.
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It is my intent
to put her there.
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She's in contempt.
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Take her away.
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Actually, Judge,
if you're gonna hold
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our client in contempt,
she'd like
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her day in court.
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What?
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Due process.
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She'd like to be heard
on the contempt charge.
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She wants a contempt trial,
is that what you're telling me?
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Well, she certainly doesn't
want to be locked up.
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Fine.
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You want a trial?
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We'll give her a trial.
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We'll get killed.
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No, we won't.
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Phoebe, I wasn't up to speed
before on this show,
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I am now,
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Tina makes that Snooki
seem like a choir girl.
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That's just how the show
presents her.
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But it's how the jury
will perceive her.
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Until we change that.
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Do you realize how much
media's gonna be in that room?
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Which we're not
afraid of, right?
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Phoebe, we're pretty good,
but we're kids.
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Look, there are a few victims
in this story.
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Our job will be to make
the jury see
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that Tina is one of them.
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Have you seen this file?
It won't be easy.
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Which is why
I asked for back up.
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Are you in or out?
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In.
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My brother would've never,
ever wanted
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to go on that program,
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or any reality show
for that matter.
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Well, why did he
agree to do it then?
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Because she influenced him to.
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She made him do it
because she has this
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need to draw
attention to herself.
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A reality show
was not his style.
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Okay, but he did go on one.
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Yes, he did, after which
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he was the object
of public ridicule,
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often at her hand.
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She belittled him
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on national TV.
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Humiliated him,
emasculated him...
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it was abusive.
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Eliot is not what
we would call a lover.
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If I was looking
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for a man to make
all my fantasies come true,
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Eliot...
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I'm sorry.
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No, I shouldn't.
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I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
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You could play a hundred
different versions
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of that scene.
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She was unrelenting.
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Finally he just couldn't
take it anymore.
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Why do you think
Eliot married Tina?
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Any idea?
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Well...
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I think that he was
a bit spellbound,
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to be honest.
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Do you think he loved her?
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Yeah, I think he did.
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Which made his pain
so much more.
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To hear the things
that she would say about him,
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on television, no less.
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Did your brother ever get
psychological treatment?
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Yes.
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Do you know what for?
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He had some esteem issues.
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He was kind of a fragile guy.
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Which was another reason
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she shouldn't have abused him.
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She knew about
his psychological deficits.
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Did you?
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I imagine his family
had some sense
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of his psychological deficits.
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Did you ever try
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to stop him from going
on the show.
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I wish that we had.
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I wish that we had.
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How'd you get this case?
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I told you.
It's Phoebe's.
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Well, why would she call you
instead of me?
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I am a reality show.
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Yeah, maybe you're
too on the nose.
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It figures to last two
or three days, tops.
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Adam, you sure you want
to do this?
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You could walking
into a firestorm.
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Give it to me,
I'm good with firestorms.
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You're in trial with me,
remember?
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Yeah, I'd rather have his.
270
00:10:51,284 --> 00:10:53,085
Well, you don't get it.
271
00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:54,553
What'd you find out?
272
00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:55,721
Not much.
273
00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:57,522
Not a whole lot of precedents
with runaway jurors.
274
00:10:57,523 --> 00:10:58,590
End of the day, you're gonna be
275
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at the mercy of the judge.
276
00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:01,425
That's what worries me.
277
00:11:01,426 --> 00:11:04,062
This judge's cup doesn't seem
to runneth over with mercy.
278
00:11:04,063 --> 00:11:05,463
You contact the shrink?
279
00:11:05,464 --> 00:11:07,165
There's nothing wrong with me.
280
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,701
For our expert testimony?
281
00:11:10,702 --> 00:11:12,270
Oh, yeah, we're all set there.
282
00:11:12,271 --> 00:11:13,738
His case should have come to me.
283
00:11:13,739 --> 00:11:15,172
Tommy.
284
00:11:15,173 --> 00:11:16,774
I never should have
married you!
285
00:11:16,775 --> 00:11:19,609
You ruined my life!
286
00:11:21,146 --> 00:11:23,313
This is me stepping on you,
287
00:11:23,314 --> 00:11:25,482
'cause you're a bug, you're
a (bleep) smashed bug
288
00:11:25,483 --> 00:11:27,251
under my shoe,
that's what you are.
289
00:11:27,252 --> 00:11:28,252
You married
290
00:11:28,253 --> 00:11:29,619
these.
291
00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:30,853
This is what you married.
292
00:11:30,854 --> 00:11:34,223
You said "I do" and "I
do" to two (bleep)s,
293
00:11:34,224 --> 00:11:36,625
and I am more than just
two (bleep)s, Eliot!
294
00:11:37,627 --> 00:11:40,129
All this gets admitted next
295
00:11:40,130 --> 00:11:42,531
and then a lot more
of the same.
296
00:11:42,532 --> 00:11:46,102
You have to understand,
they kept all the lowlights.
297
00:11:46,103 --> 00:11:47,635
There were highlights, too...
298
00:11:47,636 --> 00:11:52,174
not as many of them, but they
made me look worse than I am.
299
00:11:52,175 --> 00:11:54,642
Whenever Eliot and I were
being nice to each other,
300
00:11:54,643 --> 00:11:56,311
they would stop rolling.
301
00:11:56,312 --> 00:11:59,214
Look, we have a defense,
302
00:11:59,215 --> 00:12:01,582
but our first line
is your testimony.
303
00:12:01,583 --> 00:12:03,317
If the jury is to see you
in a different light,
304
00:12:03,318 --> 00:12:05,085
it starts with you
on the stand,
305
00:12:05,086 --> 00:12:07,321
which is why,
over the next six hours,
306
00:12:07,322 --> 00:12:10,791
the three of us are going to
spend a little quality time.
307
00:12:18,733 --> 00:12:21,201
You forget how much
you take for granted...
308
00:12:21,202 --> 00:12:24,237
all the little things...
being able to go outside,
309
00:12:24,238 --> 00:12:26,739
make a phone call,
watch TV, read the paper,
310
00:12:26,740 --> 00:12:28,774
see other people.
I couldn't see
311
00:12:28,775 --> 00:12:32,411
my friends, my family,
my boyfriend, nobody.
312
00:12:32,412 --> 00:12:34,580
It was all just starting
to wear on me, I guess.
313
00:12:34,581 --> 00:12:36,148
And could you tell us
about the events
314
00:12:36,149 --> 00:12:37,415
leading up to your running away?
315
00:12:37,416 --> 00:12:38,516
Okay.
316
00:12:38,517 --> 00:12:39,818
From the start it was clear
that there were
317
00:12:39,819 --> 00:12:42,354
eight votes for guilty
and four for not guilty.
318
00:12:42,355 --> 00:12:44,522
I was one
of the not guilty votes,
319
00:12:44,523 --> 00:12:45,824
and then two
320
00:12:45,825 --> 00:12:48,360
of the not guilties caved in, so
then there were just two of us
321
00:12:48,361 --> 00:12:50,095
left holding out.
322
00:12:52,030 --> 00:12:54,665
So we'd be in there
and we'd talk
323
00:12:54,666 --> 00:12:57,268
and we'd take a vote,
324
00:12:57,269 --> 00:13:00,171
and then they would
just start in on us.
325
00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:02,340
So you ran?
326
00:13:02,341 --> 00:13:03,440
Not yet,
327
00:13:03,441 --> 00:13:05,042
but at one point
328
00:13:05,043 --> 00:13:09,112
someone...
I don't know who... said,
329
00:13:09,113 --> 00:13:10,446
"No one is going to hurt you,"
330
00:13:10,447 --> 00:13:12,048
and that really got to me,
331
00:13:12,049 --> 00:13:15,585
you know, the fact that
hurting me was even mentioned.
332
00:13:15,586 --> 00:13:17,453
So you ran?
333
00:13:17,454 --> 00:13:18,588
Not yet,
334
00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:20,357
but my anxiety
was getting worse
335
00:13:20,358 --> 00:13:23,692
with all the pressure
that they were...
336
00:13:25,695 --> 00:13:27,462
Oh, God.
337
00:13:27,463 --> 00:13:30,199
At one point I,
I thought about suicide.
338
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,700
And then what happened?
339
00:13:31,701 --> 00:13:33,668
A couple of hours later
they came to get me
340
00:13:33,669 --> 00:13:36,738
and they brought me
to the courthouse to see him...
341
00:13:36,739 --> 00:13:40,741
you... in chambers...
342
00:13:40,742 --> 00:13:43,477
and he...
343
00:13:43,478 --> 00:13:45,346
well, you told me
about all the time
344
00:13:45,347 --> 00:13:47,248
and the money
that had gone into the trial
345
00:13:47,249 --> 00:13:49,317
and how there weren't
any alternates left
346
00:13:49,318 --> 00:13:51,386
and how it would be
a shame to have come
347
00:13:51,387 --> 00:13:54,555
this far and to go home
without a verdict,
348
00:13:54,556 --> 00:13:57,157
and I just started to feel
sick because I could see
349
00:13:57,158 --> 00:14:00,027
what was happening.
350
00:14:00,028 --> 00:14:01,295
And I told him...
351
00:14:02,696 --> 00:14:07,567
"I really think I'm going to die
if you don't let me go."
352
00:14:10,571 --> 00:14:13,272
And you said...
353
00:14:13,273 --> 00:14:17,410
to take some deep breaths
and to relax.
354
00:14:19,146 --> 00:14:21,347
And I could just see
355
00:14:21,348 --> 00:14:23,182
he wasn't taking me seriously,
356
00:14:23,183 --> 00:14:25,684
that they cared more about
their trial than they did
357
00:14:25,685 --> 00:14:27,185
about my life.
358
00:14:27,186 --> 00:14:28,420
And then?
359
00:14:29,455 --> 00:14:31,456
I ran.
360
00:14:32,724 --> 00:14:36,194
And you can see how you caused
361
00:14:36,195 --> 00:14:38,330
a great deal of hardship
by running away.
362
00:14:38,331 --> 00:14:40,198
I have never run away
from anything.
363
00:14:40,199 --> 00:14:43,200
I am a fighter,
364
00:14:43,201 --> 00:14:49,073
but my life was falling apart,
I had hit my breaking point.
365
00:14:49,074 --> 00:14:53,410
I am... sorry, I am so sorry,
366
00:14:53,411 --> 00:14:56,280
Your Honor, but...
367
00:14:59,149 --> 00:15:02,352
...but I had to go.
368
00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:25,142
Can't we all just wait to hear
369
00:15:25,143 --> 00:15:29,013
what the lovely reality TV whore
"Tina" has to say?
370
00:15:29,014 --> 00:15:31,115
I'm sure she'll play the victim,
371
00:15:31,116 --> 00:15:34,151
all the while loving
the attention...
372
00:15:34,152 --> 00:15:36,420
the news trucks parked
outside the courthouse,
373
00:15:36,421 --> 00:15:39,223
the lights, the microphones,
blah, blah, blah.
374
00:15:39,224 --> 00:15:41,258
Press treating you okay?
375
00:15:41,259 --> 00:15:43,594
What were you thinking,
taking this dog?
376
00:15:43,595 --> 00:15:45,662
That's a very good question.
377
00:15:45,663 --> 00:15:49,633
If I were the Ohio prosecutor,
I would file murder charges
378
00:15:49,634 --> 00:15:51,167
and haul in...
379
00:15:51,168 --> 00:15:52,269
I got to go.
380
00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:53,637
I'm late.
...those producers and charge
381
00:15:53,638 --> 00:15:55,205
them with aiding and abetting.
382
00:15:55,206 --> 00:15:56,973
Let's lock 'em all up
383
00:15:56,974 --> 00:15:58,242
and let them rot.
384
00:15:58,243 --> 00:15:59,476
I got to go.
385
00:16:01,379 --> 00:16:04,248
Eliot never once expressed
not wanting to do the show,
386
00:16:04,249 --> 00:16:05,749
at least not initially.
387
00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:08,384
Well, according to his sister,
he told her that.
388
00:16:08,385 --> 00:16:11,019
Look, we both discussed
the pros and the cons.
389
00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:12,121
The negative
was being exploited.
390
00:16:12,122 --> 00:16:13,689
The positive was the money.
391
00:16:13,690 --> 00:16:15,424
We needed the money.
392
00:16:15,425 --> 00:16:17,226
And, yes, the attention...
393
00:16:17,227 --> 00:16:20,696
the idea of being TV stars...
was very attractive.
394
00:16:20,697 --> 00:16:22,530
Did he want that
as much as you?
395
00:16:22,531 --> 00:16:24,031
Probably not.
396
00:16:24,032 --> 00:16:26,000
But did I ever pressure
or browbeat him?
397
00:16:26,001 --> 00:16:27,569
No.
398
00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:29,404
Well, in those clips
399
00:16:29,405 --> 00:16:31,406
you did seem quite aggressive.
400
00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:33,375
They shoot hundreds
and hundreds of hours.
401
00:16:33,376 --> 00:16:34,576
They don't use most of it,
402
00:16:34,577 --> 00:16:38,079
but when we would argue,
obviously that makes it in.
403
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,314
They want the drama, plus...
404
00:16:40,315 --> 00:16:41,482
Plus what?
405
00:16:41,483 --> 00:16:45,519
Well... we all play it up a bit.
406
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,655
We know what
they're looking for.
407
00:16:47,656 --> 00:16:51,292
We know why they've chosen us
to be on the show.
408
00:16:51,293 --> 00:16:52,993
Is it faked when we argue?
No.
409
00:16:52,994 --> 00:16:53,994
But do we embellish
410
00:16:53,995 --> 00:16:56,228
and exaggerate
our feelings? Yes.
411
00:16:56,229 --> 00:16:59,599
If we don't make an impression,
we get cut from the cast.
412
00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,233
Tina, I'm gonna be honest.
413
00:17:01,234 --> 00:17:03,969
You did seem like a bit
of a monster.
414
00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:06,506
I realize that.
415
00:17:06,507 --> 00:17:08,508
Did you have any sense that
he might cause harm to himself?
416
00:17:08,509 --> 00:17:09,975
Oh, God, no.
417
00:17:09,976 --> 00:17:14,479
I admit, Eliot would keep
things bottled up inside,
418
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,315
but there was,
like, never any sign
419
00:17:16,316 --> 00:17:18,116
that he would slit his wrists.
420
00:17:18,117 --> 00:17:19,751
And you said that initially
421
00:17:19,752 --> 00:17:22,153
he didn't resist
going on the show.
422
00:17:22,154 --> 00:17:24,155
Did he resist at some point?
423
00:17:24,156 --> 00:17:26,291
Yes, after the first season
424
00:17:26,292 --> 00:17:28,359
he said we should think
about leaving.
425
00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:30,628
It was putting a lot of pressure
on our marriage
426
00:17:30,629 --> 00:17:34,699
and on us individually,
but we both decided
427
00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:36,099
that we'd made it
through the first season
428
00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:37,401
with almost no money.
429
00:17:37,402 --> 00:17:40,438
Why would we leave now, when we
were just starting to get paid?
430
00:17:42,073 --> 00:17:44,240
You convinced Eliot to stay,
isn't that right?
431
00:17:44,241 --> 00:17:46,175
We both agreed to stay on,
432
00:17:46,176 --> 00:17:47,944
and they probably
would have kept me anyway
433
00:17:47,945 --> 00:17:49,946
'cause I was
the most popular character.
434
00:17:49,947 --> 00:17:52,449
Because you were the bitch,
the one everyone loved to hate.
435
00:17:52,450 --> 00:17:53,483
That seemed to be true then
436
00:17:53,484 --> 00:17:54,984
and it seems so now, Mr. Choi.
437
00:17:54,985 --> 00:17:57,119
And being the bitch meant
verbally abusing
438
00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,987
your husband in front
of a national audience?
439
00:17:58,988 --> 00:18:01,523
Eliot and I could get
into it on our own,
440
00:18:01,524 --> 00:18:02,725
but, yes, as I said,
441
00:18:02,726 --> 00:18:04,960
I would ratchet things up
for the cameras.
442
00:18:04,961 --> 00:18:06,261
And you had an affair
with another man
443
00:18:06,262 --> 00:18:07,596
on camera.
444
00:18:07,597 --> 00:18:08,630
It was not an affair.
445
00:18:08,631 --> 00:18:11,166
I kissed a man
while I was inebriated.
446
00:18:15,237 --> 00:18:16,504
Tina,
447
00:18:16,505 --> 00:18:17,638
you're married.
448
00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:18,706
Not tonight I'm not.
Oh.
449
00:18:18,707 --> 00:18:19,707
Wow.
450
00:18:22,378 --> 00:18:24,379
I was very drunk
451
00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:27,147
in that situation.
452
00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:30,251
I know that's not an excuse.
453
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:47,433
Were you drunk here, too?
454
00:18:47,434 --> 00:18:49,435
Yes.
455
00:18:51,070 --> 00:18:53,071
I'm trailer trash.
456
00:18:53,072 --> 00:18:54,206
I'm not proud of it.
457
00:18:54,207 --> 00:18:55,207
I drank too much
458
00:18:55,208 --> 00:18:57,476
and I did things I regret.
459
00:18:57,477 --> 00:18:59,344
One of the reasons
why I drank a lot
460
00:18:59,345 --> 00:19:00,613
is because the producers
kept putting us
461
00:19:00,614 --> 00:19:01,614
in situations with alcohol.
462
00:19:01,615 --> 00:19:03,448
They want us
463
00:19:03,449 --> 00:19:06,484
to drink a lot
'cause it makes for better TV.
464
00:19:06,485 --> 00:19:08,386
So it's the producers' fault.
465
00:19:08,387 --> 00:19:10,354
They made you kiss
another man, they made you
466
00:19:10,355 --> 00:19:12,189
dance naked on the bar.
467
00:19:12,190 --> 00:19:14,392
I didn't say that.
They made you call Eliot a smashed bug.
468
00:19:14,393 --> 00:19:15,460
I didn't say that!
469
00:19:15,461 --> 00:19:16,461
You didn't call your husband
470
00:19:16,462 --> 00:19:18,129
a smashed bug?
471
00:19:18,130 --> 00:19:19,596
I didn't say
472
00:19:19,597 --> 00:19:21,264
that the producers made me do
473
00:19:21,265 --> 00:19:23,099
all that.
474
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:26,102
No, they just gave you
alcohol...
475
00:19:26,103 --> 00:19:28,204
and that was enough.
476
00:19:28,205 --> 00:19:30,641
The inner you came out.
477
00:19:37,614 --> 00:19:39,515
At first I liked Brianna,
I really did,
478
00:19:39,516 --> 00:19:41,651
but when we started
deliberating...
479
00:19:41,652 --> 00:19:44,119
She claims you all were
furious with her.
480
00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:45,120
We were.
481
00:19:45,121 --> 00:19:46,355
She held us up.
482
00:19:46,356 --> 00:19:47,990
We all wanted to go home,
483
00:19:47,991 --> 00:19:50,025
we all wanted to see
our families, only we couldn't
484
00:19:50,026 --> 00:19:51,526
because of her
and the other holdout.
485
00:19:51,527 --> 00:19:54,629
Well, maybe she didn't
think that he was guilty.
486
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:55,664
Because she was out of her mind.
487
00:19:55,665 --> 00:19:56,665
I'm sorry,
488
00:19:56,666 --> 00:19:59,000
I will not feel sorry
for that woman.
489
00:19:59,001 --> 00:20:01,369
She caused a lot of people
a lot of stress.
490
00:20:01,370 --> 00:20:03,004
Did you all pressure her?
491
00:20:03,005 --> 00:20:04,639
Yes, to see reason,
492
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,374
but she wouldn't.
493
00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:08,576
Truth be told, I think
she wanted to punish us.
494
00:20:08,577 --> 00:20:10,410
Why would she do that?
We all thought
495
00:20:10,411 --> 00:20:13,146
she complained too much
and some of us told her,
496
00:20:13,147 --> 00:20:15,215
so I think, to pay us back,
497
00:20:15,216 --> 00:20:16,550
she decided
to just be obstinate
498
00:20:16,551 --> 00:20:18,586
and make everyone suffer,
499
00:20:18,587 --> 00:20:20,153
and she got her wish because,
in the end, we all hated
500
00:20:20,154 --> 00:20:21,555
being there as much as she did.
501
00:20:21,556 --> 00:20:24,724
Did the other jurors
become hostile to her?
502
00:20:24,725 --> 00:20:28,160
Maybe some,
but she had it coming.
503
00:20:28,161 --> 00:20:30,563
Look what she's done...
everybody loses.
504
00:20:30,564 --> 00:20:33,332
Mrs. Flick, can we talk
about some of the conditions
505
00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,434
during your sequestration?
506
00:20:35,435 --> 00:20:39,237
They were horrible, but they
were horrible for all of us.
507
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:41,373
She was the only one
who took off.
508
00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:44,576
That didn't go well.
509
00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:47,980
Hey, listen, you did
all you could with her.
510
00:20:47,981 --> 00:20:48,981
So...
511
00:20:48,982 --> 00:20:50,649
now what happens?
512
00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:53,151
Well, uh, we'll put
your doctor on the stand.
513
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,152
You ready with him?
514
00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:55,520
Will be.
515
00:20:55,521 --> 00:20:58,088
Is it really fair that this
judge is the decider on this?
516
00:20:58,089 --> 00:20:59,256
I mean, he's got
an ax to grind.
517
00:20:59,257 --> 00:21:01,993
Can he really be objective?
518
00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:04,662
Probably not, but he's
the judge we got, Brianna.
519
00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:07,364
I'm really looking
at prison time, aren't I?
520
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:27,285
So are you saying we're beat?
521
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,086
We still have some
witnesses to call,
522
00:21:29,087 --> 00:21:33,257
but, yes, I'm smelling
a big disaster here.
523
00:21:33,258 --> 00:21:35,359
This jury could be
thinking, "At last,
524
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,361
someone finally gets
to give it to Tina."
525
00:21:37,362 --> 00:21:39,030
If we can still get out
for $500,000...
526
00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:42,232
No. I was the best thing
that ever happened to Eliot.
527
00:21:42,233 --> 00:21:44,234
He told me so.
528
00:21:44,235 --> 00:21:46,369
His life became
exciting because of me,
529
00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:48,738
and he was the best thing
that ever happened to me!
530
00:21:48,739 --> 00:21:50,640
I loved him, and he's...
531
00:21:53,177 --> 00:21:55,478
I will not be blamed
for his committing suicide.
532
00:21:55,479 --> 00:21:57,413
It isn't fair.
533
00:21:57,414 --> 00:21:58,648
You might lose your house.
534
00:21:58,649 --> 00:22:00,283
I don't care.
535
00:22:00,284 --> 00:22:02,751
I started with nothing,
and I'll go back to that.
536
00:22:02,752 --> 00:22:05,453
But I will not be labeled
as the person who...
537
00:22:07,523 --> 00:22:09,692
Let's just keep going.
538
00:22:11,294 --> 00:22:14,462
Come on, Ollie. You don't share
with your old friend Tommy?
539
00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:16,398
You and Cassie.
540
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,701
She's a dynamo, isn't she?
541
00:22:21,203 --> 00:22:23,738
Yeah, she's got that look.
542
00:22:23,739 --> 00:22:25,173
What look, Tommy?
543
00:22:25,174 --> 00:22:27,008
Huh?
544
00:22:27,009 --> 00:22:28,375
Oh, Ollie and I were just...
545
00:22:28,376 --> 00:22:29,510
chewing the fat.
546
00:22:29,511 --> 00:22:31,212
Right, Ollie?
Yeah.
547
00:22:31,213 --> 00:22:33,479
Tommy wants to know
how you are in the sack.
548
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,381
Tommy.
549
00:22:35,382 --> 00:22:37,217
You really need to ask?
550
00:22:37,218 --> 00:22:38,952
You know I'm good.
551
00:22:38,953 --> 00:22:41,487
The question isn't whether
it's good for Ollie.
552
00:22:42,957 --> 00:22:45,092
The real issue is...
553
00:22:45,093 --> 00:22:47,493
is it good for me?
554
00:22:47,494 --> 00:22:48,961
Is it?
555
00:22:48,962 --> 00:22:52,231
It's always very good
for me, Tommy.
556
00:22:52,232 --> 00:22:55,534
North, south, east, west.
557
00:22:55,535 --> 00:23:00,973
It's always, always
good for me.
558
00:23:00,974 --> 00:23:02,441
Oh.
559
00:23:02,442 --> 00:23:04,043
You coming, Tommy?
560
00:23:04,044 --> 00:23:05,243
No!
561
00:23:06,511 --> 00:23:09,114
Oh. Yes.
562
00:23:13,385 --> 00:23:15,419
Careful.
563
00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:17,288
Ooh.
564
00:23:20,126 --> 00:23:21,524
Inquiring minds.
565
00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:23,560
Got it.
566
00:23:31,369 --> 00:23:34,204
Doctor, how well do you know
Brianna Marsh?
567
00:23:34,205 --> 00:23:35,239
Pretty well.
568
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,073
She's been my client
for seven years.
569
00:23:37,074 --> 00:23:39,375
Without giving up too much
privileged information,
570
00:23:39,376 --> 00:23:41,343
she suffers from anxiety.
571
00:23:41,344 --> 00:23:44,213
She's prone to panic attacks,
as well as bouts of depression.
572
00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:46,215
Was she going through
any of that here?
573
00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:47,483
She was going though all of it.
574
00:23:47,484 --> 00:23:49,085
And on top of that,
she was suffering
575
00:23:49,086 --> 00:23:50,686
from what some experts call
576
00:23:50,687 --> 00:23:52,488
"sequestered juror syndrome."
577
00:23:52,489 --> 00:23:54,555
What? What the
hell is that?
578
00:23:54,556 --> 00:23:56,624
Well, the symptoms
include depression,
579
00:23:56,625 --> 00:23:59,227
restlessness, anxiety, despair,
580
00:23:59,228 --> 00:24:03,298
reduction of self-esteem,
and actual cognitive impairment.
581
00:24:03,299 --> 00:24:05,500
And what causes it?
582
00:24:05,501 --> 00:24:06,501
Oh, it's complicated, but mainly
583
00:24:06,502 --> 00:24:07,669
sense of isolation.
584
00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:09,236
Some experts
585
00:24:09,237 --> 00:24:11,105
have likened it
to people who have lived
586
00:24:11,106 --> 00:24:13,540
in Antarctica
for extended periods,
587
00:24:13,541 --> 00:24:15,409
and go into a mild fugue state
588
00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:17,244
called the "Antarctic Stare."
589
00:24:17,245 --> 00:24:20,014
Oh, please.
590
00:24:20,015 --> 00:24:23,150
You're comparing jury
duty to Antarctica?
591
00:24:23,151 --> 00:24:25,518
Jury duty could be worse, Judge.
592
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:28,087
Researchers living and working
in Antarctica
593
00:24:28,088 --> 00:24:29,622
undergo intense
psychological pre-screening,
594
00:24:29,623 --> 00:24:31,357
and they still crack.
595
00:24:31,358 --> 00:24:33,226
Jurors undergo
no such screening.
596
00:24:33,227 --> 00:24:34,961
We just pluck 'em
off the street.
597
00:24:34,962 --> 00:24:36,196
And often,
we pluck the weak ones,
598
00:24:36,197 --> 00:24:37,596
because both sides are looking
599
00:24:37,597 --> 00:24:39,365
for people
who they can manipulate.
600
00:24:39,366 --> 00:24:40,966
What a load of crap.
601
00:24:40,967 --> 00:24:42,067
Doctor,
602
00:24:42,068 --> 00:24:43,235
you saw my client
603
00:24:43,236 --> 00:24:44,369
after she came out
of sequestration?
604
00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:48,340
Yes, and I can tell you,
she was not herself.
605
00:24:48,341 --> 00:24:50,408
She was often incoherent,
606
00:24:50,409 --> 00:24:52,945
her reasoning skills were
significantly eroded.
607
00:24:52,946 --> 00:24:55,714
Her executive functioning
was compromised.
608
00:24:55,715 --> 00:24:57,481
She was a mess.
609
00:24:58,616 --> 00:25:01,385
Why is it she was the only one
in this jury
610
00:25:01,386 --> 00:25:04,521
to suffer this
jury sequestration syndrome?
611
00:25:04,522 --> 00:25:05,723
She probably wasn't.
612
00:25:05,724 --> 00:25:07,959
She was just the only one
who ran.
613
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,561
Perhaps because, unlike
the others, she was bullied.
614
00:25:10,562 --> 00:25:12,230
Were you in the room?
No.
615
00:25:12,231 --> 00:25:14,231
I only know Brianna's account,
which I believe.
616
00:25:14,232 --> 00:25:16,366
You seem like a
very capable doctor.
617
00:25:16,367 --> 00:25:18,401
In the course of your practice,
618
00:25:18,402 --> 00:25:20,370
have you ever had a patient
619
00:25:20,371 --> 00:25:22,572
that had a loved one
that was murdered?
620
00:25:22,573 --> 00:25:25,041
Yes.
One that was forced
621
00:25:25,042 --> 00:25:27,310
to endure a trial
of the accused?
622
00:25:27,311 --> 00:25:28,611
Yes.
623
00:25:28,612 --> 00:25:32,081
What's that like,
from your medical perspective?
624
00:25:32,082 --> 00:25:35,584
It's vile.
625
00:25:35,585 --> 00:25:37,586
These people...
626
00:25:39,923 --> 00:25:42,992
The suspect in this case
broke into their home,
627
00:25:42,993 --> 00:25:46,460
beat this man,
raped this woman,
628
00:25:46,461 --> 00:25:48,196
and then murdered their son.
629
00:25:48,197 --> 00:25:50,598
They sat in this
courtroom for two months.
630
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,466
Do we have
631
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:55,603
a syndrome to attribute to
their experience, Doctor?
632
00:25:55,604 --> 00:25:57,505
No.
633
00:25:57,506 --> 00:25:59,274
And because of that woman,
634
00:25:59,275 --> 00:26:03,543
they'll be to go through the
whole thing all over again.
635
00:26:03,544 --> 00:26:06,479
What do you say to them, Doctor?
636
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,481
"Buck up"?
637
00:26:08,482 --> 00:26:11,218
"Stiff upper lip"?
638
00:26:29,173 --> 00:26:31,474
I was a producer on the
first season of It Takes Two,
639
00:26:31,475 --> 00:26:33,041
and I left halfway
through the second.
640
00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:35,944
And, Mr. Hessly, to get an idea
how these reality shows work,
641
00:26:35,945 --> 00:26:39,080
first, how do you get the people
you get to be in them?
642
00:26:39,081 --> 00:26:40,516
Well, we have an open
casting call,
643
00:26:40,517 --> 00:26:41,850
and they come in droves.
644
00:26:41,851 --> 00:26:42,851
And what are you looking for?
645
00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:44,219
We're looking for
colorful people.
646
00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:45,320
Train wrecks.
647
00:26:45,321 --> 00:26:46,488
Okay.
648
00:26:46,489 --> 00:26:48,956
Tina and Eliot...
what did you see in them?
649
00:26:48,957 --> 00:26:51,159
We saw in them
a dynamic that, um...
650
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,461
Well, she was a little
over the top.
651
00:26:53,462 --> 00:26:56,364
Your casting note said,
"loud and trashy."
652
00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:58,599
He was repressed.
653
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,867
Opposites of sorts.
654
00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:01,269
It makes for good conflict.
655
00:27:01,270 --> 00:27:03,237
Tina mentioned
that the producers would also
656
00:27:03,238 --> 00:27:04,971
manufacture conflict if need be.
657
00:27:04,972 --> 00:27:06,139
It may have happened.
658
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:07,507
Mind telling us how?
659
00:27:07,508 --> 00:27:09,008
It's called
"poking the bear."
660
00:27:09,009 --> 00:27:10,243
We basically solicit
661
00:27:10,244 --> 00:27:11,844
a provocative comment
from one cast member,
662
00:27:11,845 --> 00:27:14,514
play it for the other,
and suddenly, we have a fight.
663
00:27:14,515 --> 00:27:17,817
And those fights we see on TV...
they're real?
664
00:27:17,818 --> 00:27:20,219
Real with the occasional use
of frankenbiting.
665
00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:22,020
Frankenbiting?
666
00:27:22,021 --> 00:27:24,089
It's an editing technique.
We take various pieces
667
00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:26,325
of audio and visual, we build
the scene we want to build.
668
00:27:26,326 --> 00:27:28,927
Kind of like Frankenstein
building his monster.
669
00:27:30,330 --> 00:27:33,098
Eliot is not
what we would call a lover.
670
00:27:33,099 --> 00:27:34,933
Eliot is smart,
671
00:27:34,934 --> 00:27:36,467
and he takes care of me.
672
00:27:36,468 --> 00:27:38,369
Like, this one time
at Halloween, I was dressed
673
00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:41,105
as a nun, and Eliot...
674
00:27:42,974 --> 00:27:44,075
I'm sorry.
675
00:27:46,345 --> 00:27:48,179
No, I shouldn't.
676
00:27:51,083 --> 00:27:52,449
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
677
00:27:54,051 --> 00:27:56,820
Okay, the point is,
is that Eliot takes care of me.
678
00:27:56,821 --> 00:27:59,189
And if I had it to do
all over again,
679
00:27:59,190 --> 00:28:01,991
if I was looking for a man
680
00:28:01,992 --> 00:28:04,828
to make all my fantasies
come true,
681
00:28:04,829 --> 00:28:06,263
it's Eliot.
682
00:28:06,264 --> 00:28:09,398
It's really Eliot.
683
00:28:09,399 --> 00:28:10,899
Sound familiar?
684
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,501
We saw this clip earlier,
685
00:28:12,502 --> 00:28:15,137
only it played like this.
686
00:28:15,138 --> 00:28:18,307
Eliot is not what
we would call a lover.
687
00:28:18,308 --> 00:28:20,943
If I was looking for a man
688
00:28:20,944 --> 00:28:24,213
to make all my fantasies
come true, Elliot...
689
00:28:25,348 --> 00:28:27,148
I'm sorry.
690
00:28:29,785 --> 00:28:30,918
No, I shouldn't.
691
00:28:33,322 --> 00:28:34,922
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
692
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,060
And there you have
frankenbiting.
693
00:28:39,061 --> 00:28:41,229
Do you create a character
out of whole-cloth?
694
00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:43,464
Absolutely not.
We highlight.
695
00:28:43,465 --> 00:28:46,400
Inventing a character
wouldn't be sustainable.
696
00:28:46,401 --> 00:28:48,803
It wouldn't last over
the course of a season.
697
00:28:48,804 --> 00:28:51,005
So, the Tina
we saw on television...
698
00:28:51,006 --> 00:28:53,241
That's essentially her
with a nudge from us.
699
00:28:53,242 --> 00:28:55,042
A nudge?
For instance,
700
00:28:55,043 --> 00:28:57,010
we have footage of Tina
spanking a male stripper
701
00:28:57,011 --> 00:28:58,245
in the rear with her bra.
702
00:28:58,246 --> 00:29:00,947
That's not invented.
That's who she is.
703
00:29:00,948 --> 00:29:03,516
Now, look, it's my job
to take a five scene,
704
00:29:03,517 --> 00:29:05,451
turn it into ten.
705
00:29:05,452 --> 00:29:07,220
I add some music,
some reaction shots.
706
00:29:07,221 --> 00:29:09,823
But essentially,
what you see is who they are.
707
00:29:09,824 --> 00:29:11,992
Just combine that with
the fact they know
708
00:29:11,993 --> 00:29:14,493
what we want,
and they give it to us.
709
00:29:14,494 --> 00:29:16,929
Now, the availability
of alcohol.
710
00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:19,832
Do you insist
that the participants drink?
711
00:29:19,833 --> 00:29:22,234
If they drink,
it's because they want to.
712
00:29:22,235 --> 00:29:23,535
We talked about Tina.
713
00:29:23,536 --> 00:29:25,204
What about Eliot?
714
00:29:25,205 --> 00:29:27,973
Eliot was a reluctant astronaut.
715
00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:29,207
I'm sorry?
716
00:29:29,208 --> 00:29:32,110
He was only in it
because Tina wanted him to be.
717
00:29:33,879 --> 00:29:35,346
We all hear the complaint.
718
00:29:35,347 --> 00:29:38,616
I mean, how can juries seem
so out of touch?
719
00:29:38,617 --> 00:29:40,952
O.J., Casey Anthony.
720
00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,121
Are they seeing the
same case we're seeing?
721
00:29:43,122 --> 00:29:45,255
Well, maybe they are, but
722
00:29:45,256 --> 00:29:46,489
through a skewed prism.
723
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:47,958
These people are shut away
724
00:29:47,959 --> 00:29:49,426
from their family and friends.
725
00:29:49,427 --> 00:29:51,528
They're pressured and bullied
726
00:29:51,529 --> 00:29:54,497
by each other in an extremely
confined environment.
727
00:29:54,498 --> 00:29:57,534
One of reasons that we don't
trust confessions is because
728
00:29:57,535 --> 00:30:00,503
people are cooped up
and psychologically worn down
729
00:30:00,504 --> 00:30:02,371
to the point
where they'll say anything.
730
00:30:02,372 --> 00:30:03,572
Well,
731
00:30:03,573 --> 00:30:05,274
that's our jury system.
732
00:30:05,275 --> 00:30:08,277
The scientists who have studied
sequestration have said that
733
00:30:08,278 --> 00:30:10,079
it breeds a kind of insanity.
734
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,948
Jury of our peers?
735
00:30:11,949 --> 00:30:15,318
It's more like
jury of our whacked-out peers.
736
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,252
People crack.
737
00:30:17,253 --> 00:30:18,486
Brianna cracked.
738
00:30:18,487 --> 00:30:20,088
She had emotional and
739
00:30:20,089 --> 00:30:22,224
psychological deficits
to begin with.
740
00:30:22,225 --> 00:30:25,293
Anxiety, panic attacks.
741
00:30:25,294 --> 00:30:26,527
She was prone to depression.
742
00:30:26,528 --> 00:30:31,466
Then she's isolated from
her family and her routines,
743
00:30:31,467 --> 00:30:33,000
her support systems.
744
00:30:33,001 --> 00:30:34,969
She's bullied and battered.
745
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:38,138
No wonder she went nuts.
746
00:30:38,139 --> 00:30:41,008
And now, you want to punish her
747
00:30:41,009 --> 00:30:44,144
and hold her in contempt,
748
00:30:44,145 --> 00:30:46,013
and throw her in isolation
749
00:30:46,014 --> 00:30:48,349
where she'll be subjected
to rude treatment,
750
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:50,183
crappy food and no privileges.
751
00:30:50,184 --> 00:30:53,887
She just went through
two months of that.
752
00:30:53,888 --> 00:30:55,889
That's why she cracked.
753
00:30:58,125 --> 00:30:59,993
So, when the going gets tough,
754
00:30:59,994 --> 00:31:01,460
we should just let
the jury get going?
755
00:31:01,461 --> 00:31:02,862
Is that the answer?
756
00:31:02,863 --> 00:31:05,530
What she did was
unconscionable.
757
00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:06,999
You said it yourself, Judge.
758
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,133
So many people
759
00:31:08,134 --> 00:31:10,135
gave of themselves for so long,
760
00:31:10,136 --> 00:31:12,637
to finally get justice
in a murder trial,
761
00:31:12,638 --> 00:31:16,208
And Brianna Marsh threw
it all out the window.
762
00:31:16,209 --> 00:31:18,310
The financial cost...
over four million.
763
00:31:18,311 --> 00:31:20,245
The emotional cost...
764
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:21,379
immeasurable.
765
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,846
Because she
766
00:31:22,847 --> 00:31:24,815
couldn't take the pressure.
She was stressed.
767
00:31:24,816 --> 00:31:28,085
Oh, come on. She was borderline
suicidal, for God's sake.
768
00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:29,453
You had your say!
769
00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:32,489
Yeah, well, have yours, but
please do not trivialize this,
770
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:34,458
and do not misconstrue
what I've said.
771
00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:36,227
This was an extreme situation.
772
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,594
Yes, it was, especially
for that family!
773
00:31:38,595 --> 00:31:39,930
- All right.
- Your Honor,
774
00:31:39,931 --> 00:31:41,298
do we even bother
775
00:31:41,299 --> 00:31:43,967
to warn prospective jurors about
the pressures that they face?
776
00:31:43,968 --> 00:31:46,536
I mean, do they have
the slightest idea
777
00:31:46,537 --> 00:31:48,238
what they're getting themselves
into?
778
00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:50,240
She had two months to get out
if she couldn't hack it!
779
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:51,408
All right.
780
00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:53,242
I've heard enough
from each of you.
781
00:31:53,243 --> 00:31:54,843
Thank you, Your Honor.
782
00:31:54,844 --> 00:31:56,545
No.
783
00:31:56,546 --> 00:31:58,948
I'll talk now.
Everybody sit down.
784
00:31:59,983 --> 00:32:02,484
Ms. Korn,
you are no doubt correct
785
00:32:02,485 --> 00:32:06,555
to question the validity
of our jury system.
786
00:32:06,556 --> 00:32:11,225
It seems that only
when we get people
787
00:32:11,226 --> 00:32:16,797
mentally compromised enough
do we say, "What say you?"
788
00:32:16,798 --> 00:32:18,933
They probably
should be prescreened
789
00:32:18,934 --> 00:32:22,070
or profiled to see if they're
even up to the wear and tear
790
00:32:22,071 --> 00:32:24,439
of prolonged sequestration...
but we don't have
791
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,239
the resources for that.
792
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,477
There is a lot wrong
with the jury system,
793
00:32:30,478 --> 00:32:33,246
but it is our system,
like it or not.
794
00:32:33,247 --> 00:32:37,817
And the answer can never be
for a juror to flee.
795
00:32:37,818 --> 00:32:40,954
Mr. Odom is right...
she could have got out;
796
00:32:40,955 --> 00:32:42,188
we had alternates.
797
00:32:42,189 --> 00:32:45,524
But once those alternates
were all taken up
798
00:32:45,525 --> 00:32:47,493
and we were in deliberations,
799
00:32:47,494 --> 00:32:51,030
she had a civic duty
to stick it out.
800
00:32:51,031 --> 00:32:52,264
She didn't.
801
00:32:52,265 --> 00:32:53,499
I find her decision
802
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:56,369
to run was voluntary,
and she will be held
803
00:32:56,370 --> 00:32:57,869
in contempt.
804
00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:01,139
And... I shall ask
the D.A.'s office to fee
805
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,477
obstruction of justice
charges forthwith.
806
00:33:07,113 --> 00:33:08,980
We are adjourned.
807
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:28,187
I think the best plan
808
00:33:28,188 --> 00:33:30,756
would be to let the
judge's wrath cool down.
809
00:33:30,757 --> 00:33:33,726
You could be out from the
contempt thing this week.
810
00:33:33,727 --> 00:33:35,761
As for obstruction of justice,
we again make the argument
811
00:33:35,762 --> 00:33:38,697
that your actions weren't
entirely voluntary.
812
00:33:38,698 --> 00:33:40,599
We're not done.
813
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,267
Don't despair.
814
00:33:42,268 --> 00:33:44,102
We're not done.
815
00:33:45,237 --> 00:33:47,271
Probably done.
816
00:33:47,272 --> 00:33:48,539
Tommy!
817
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:50,108
I-I'm just saying.
818
00:33:50,109 --> 00:33:51,508
It was unrelenting.
819
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:54,879
And it was
on national television.
820
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,647
Of course she had
to have contributed
821
00:33:56,648 --> 00:33:58,382
to Eliot Stanhope's suicide.
822
00:33:58,383 --> 00:34:01,118
Who could stand up
to that degree of...
823
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:02,519
humiliation?
824
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,222
When we get married,
we take a vow.
825
00:34:05,223 --> 00:34:07,258
Those vows may use
varying language
826
00:34:07,259 --> 00:34:08,626
and different phrases,
827
00:34:08,627 --> 00:34:12,329
but at the core is always
a promise to love, protect,
828
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:14,565
cherish, defend.
829
00:34:14,566 --> 00:34:17,734
Tina Stanhope took those vows
and did the opposite.
830
00:34:17,735 --> 00:34:20,836
She used Eliot Stanhope.
831
00:34:20,837 --> 00:34:23,473
She willfully manipulated him
into a situation
832
00:34:23,474 --> 00:34:26,776
rife with risk to his
emotional state and reputation,
833
00:34:26,777 --> 00:34:28,811
and exposed him
to crushing ridicule,
834
00:34:28,812 --> 00:34:30,747
all for her own vanity.
835
00:34:30,748 --> 00:34:33,482
She may not have slit his wrists
with that razor blade,
836
00:34:33,483 --> 00:34:36,185
but she incited the tragedy
just the same.
837
00:34:36,186 --> 00:34:39,388
Her behavior simply
shocks the conscience.
838
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:41,456
I certainly hope
it shocked yours.
839
00:34:44,094 --> 00:34:46,328
I have to admit,
840
00:34:46,329 --> 00:34:48,664
from the footage I saw,
841
00:34:48,665 --> 00:34:53,101
Tina didn't seem like
a very nice person.
842
00:34:53,102 --> 00:34:57,105
But I think we're all
smart enough to appreciate
843
00:34:57,106 --> 00:35:00,408
she was cast, filmed and edited
to be the bitch
844
00:35:00,409 --> 00:35:03,244
that America would love to hate.
845
00:35:03,245 --> 00:35:05,112
She was part
of a television show.
846
00:35:05,113 --> 00:35:07,414
She played her role.
847
00:35:07,415 --> 00:35:09,283
Eliot played his.
848
00:35:09,284 --> 00:35:13,420
And just like she did,
he signed up for all of it.
849
00:35:13,421 --> 00:35:16,423
He signed a contract
allowing the producers
850
00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:18,591
to portray in the best
interest of the series.
851
00:35:18,592 --> 00:35:20,060
They did so.
852
00:35:20,061 --> 00:35:25,397
For that, he was paid
more than $60,000 an episode.
853
00:35:25,398 --> 00:35:28,467
This is reality
television, folks.
854
00:35:28,468 --> 00:35:30,336
The one thing that
all of them have in common
855
00:35:30,337 --> 00:35:35,341
is they exploit the contestants
for our entertainment pleasure.
856
00:35:35,342 --> 00:35:37,342
And we are entertained,
aren't we?
857
00:35:37,343 --> 00:35:38,609
After all,
858
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:41,179
we watch, we devour it.
859
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:45,217
The greater the humiliation,
the happier we are as viewers.
860
00:35:45,218 --> 00:35:48,486
All the producers need find
is a few sacrificial lambs
861
00:35:48,487 --> 00:35:50,355
willing to make fools
of themselves.
862
00:35:50,356 --> 00:35:52,623
They found one in Tina.
863
00:35:52,624 --> 00:35:54,791
They found one in Eliot.
864
00:35:54,792 --> 00:35:58,762
This one... had a tragic ending.
865
00:35:58,763 --> 00:36:02,632
But it isn't
the first time, is it?
866
00:36:04,102 --> 00:36:07,437
Julien Hug, The Bachelorette,
suicide victim.
867
00:36:07,438 --> 00:36:09,572
Joe Cerniglia,
Kitchen Nightmares,
868
00:36:09,573 --> 00:36:11,040
suicide victim.
869
00:36:11,041 --> 00:36:13,542
Russell Armstrong, Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills,
870
00:36:13,543 --> 00:36:14,577
suicide victim.
871
00:36:14,578 --> 00:36:16,445
Najai Turpin, The Contender,
872
00:36:16,446 --> 00:36:17,713
suicide victim.
873
00:36:17,714 --> 00:36:19,548
Wesley Durden, Next Great Baker,
874
00:36:19,549 --> 00:36:20,716
suicide victim.
875
00:36:20,717 --> 00:36:23,186
James Scott Terrill,
Supernanny,
876
00:36:23,187 --> 00:36:24,320
suicide victim.
877
00:36:24,321 --> 00:36:26,321
Nathan Clutter,
Paradise Hotel 2,
878
00:36:26,322 --> 00:36:28,056
suicide victim.
879
00:36:28,057 --> 00:36:29,791
Rachel Brown, Hell's Kitchen,
880
00:36:29,792 --> 00:36:31,193
suicide victim.
881
00:36:31,194 --> 00:36:34,062
Eliot Stanhope, It Takes Two,
882
00:36:34,063 --> 00:36:35,730
suicide victim.
883
00:36:35,731 --> 00:36:37,732
The list goes on and on.
884
00:36:37,733 --> 00:36:40,802
And will, because we watch.
885
00:36:40,803 --> 00:36:42,736
We love it.
886
00:36:42,737 --> 00:36:46,207
We want them to recruit
psychological train wrecks
887
00:36:46,208 --> 00:36:48,142
like Tina and Eliot.
888
00:36:48,143 --> 00:36:50,111
They entertain us.
889
00:36:50,112 --> 00:36:54,181
It makes us happy
to watch them self-destruct.
890
00:36:54,182 --> 00:36:56,583
It would be nice
891
00:36:56,584 --> 00:36:59,419
to lay this all on Tina,
wouldn't it?
892
00:37:01,188 --> 00:37:04,357
Sure is more fun than taking
responsibility ourselves.
893
00:37:07,128 --> 00:37:10,130
Yeah, let's go
with "Tina's fault."
894
00:37:11,365 --> 00:37:13,098
Sounds good to me.
895
00:37:26,779 --> 00:37:28,513
They lost.
896
00:37:28,514 --> 00:37:30,714
What do you mean?
Harry and Tommy, they lost.
897
00:37:30,715 --> 00:37:33,184
We should clear out of here
before she gets back.
898
00:37:33,185 --> 00:37:35,153
She's not a whole lot
of fun when she loses.
899
00:37:35,154 --> 00:37:37,055
Not much fun when she wins,
for that matter.
900
00:37:37,056 --> 00:37:39,324
What do you mean?
Harry's fun.
901
00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:42,293
We talking about the same Harry?
902
00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:45,196
What's wrong with your eyes?
903
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:49,733
How we doing, Cassie?
904
00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:53,370
I hate Skype!
905
00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:57,441
Sorry about that.
906
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:01,578
Okay, Madam Forewoman,
you have reached
907
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:04,481
your verdict by a preponderance
of the evidence?
908
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,148
We have, Your Honor.
909
00:38:06,149 --> 00:38:08,284
Is that a good
thing, "preponderance"?
910
00:38:08,285 --> 00:38:10,019
What say you, then?
911
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:11,754
On the count of wrongful death,
912
00:38:11,755 --> 00:38:13,456
we find in favor...
913
00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:15,558
of the defendant.
914
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,794
On the count of intentional
infliction of emotional distress,
915
00:38:18,795 --> 00:38:20,295
we find in favor
916
00:38:20,296 --> 00:38:22,798
of the defendant.
On the count
917
00:38:22,799 --> 00:38:25,100
of negligent infliction
of emotional distress,
918
00:38:25,101 --> 00:38:27,235
we find in favor
of the plaintiff,
919
00:38:27,236 --> 00:38:29,037
and we order the defendant
to pay damages
920
00:38:29,038 --> 00:38:31,373
in the amount of $120,000.
921
00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:35,442
I lost?
922
00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:37,444
No, you won on the main counts.
923
00:38:37,445 --> 00:38:39,547
This is good, Tina, very good.
924
00:39:44,742 --> 00:39:47,477
What is up with Ohio?
925
00:39:47,478 --> 00:39:50,213
I can tell you,
the state is spelled "Hi,"
926
00:39:50,214 --> 00:39:51,782
bookend by two big zeroes
927
00:39:51,783 --> 00:39:53,416
representing the people
who live there.
928
00:39:53,417 --> 00:39:55,118
I would have fed that Tina
929
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,286
right into the wood chipper.
930
00:39:56,287 --> 00:39:58,188
Tell you what, "Ohio"...
931
00:39:58,189 --> 00:39:59,722
Why does she put
everything in quotes?
932
00:40:02,126 --> 00:40:03,526
Doesn't make any sense.
933
00:40:03,527 --> 00:40:06,129
If they want to get high,
get high on that.
934
00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:07,797
People are not happy.
935
00:40:07,798 --> 00:40:10,467
It seems not.
936
00:40:10,468 --> 00:40:12,201
Thank, Adam.
937
00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:13,469
That was an awesome closing.
938
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:15,805
Every think you should be doing
939
00:40:15,806 --> 00:40:17,339
a little more of
that, maybe less
940
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,274
organizing secretarial pools?
941
00:40:19,275 --> 00:40:20,409
I'm not leaving, Phoebe.
942
00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:22,078
I like where I am.
943
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:23,846
Can't blame me for trying.
944
00:40:23,847 --> 00:40:25,081
I got another idea.
945
00:40:25,082 --> 00:40:26,181
You come work with us.
946
00:40:26,182 --> 00:40:27,616
I don't think so.
947
00:40:27,617 --> 00:40:28,650
Why not?
948
00:40:28,651 --> 00:40:30,184
You seem to like
everybody there.
949
00:40:30,185 --> 00:40:31,419
They all like you.
950
00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:32,420
We get great cases.
951
00:40:32,421 --> 00:40:33,755
I like doing my own thing.
952
00:40:33,756 --> 00:40:35,490
Fine, come do it with us.
953
00:40:35,491 --> 00:40:36,557
You need community
954
00:40:36,558 --> 00:40:38,126
in your life.
955
00:40:39,561 --> 00:40:42,097
I'll keep Ollie from trying
to hump you from behind.
956
00:40:42,098 --> 00:40:43,864
No promises on Lisa, but...
957
00:40:43,865 --> 00:40:45,733
Come join us.
958
00:40:48,236 --> 00:40:49,837
Think about it.
959
00:40:52,107 --> 00:40:54,241
When you think about things,
which, as you know,
960
00:40:54,242 --> 00:40:55,475
I don't like to do.
961
00:40:55,476 --> 00:40:57,745
We've basically got a
system that breaks down
962
00:40:57,746 --> 00:40:59,478
the individual's
powers of reasoning
963
00:40:59,479 --> 00:41:01,380
for the purpose of reaching
a reasonable verdict.
964
00:41:01,381 --> 00:41:03,482
That's one way of looking at it.
965
00:41:03,483 --> 00:41:05,384
What's the other?
966
00:41:05,385 --> 00:41:07,119
Well, if you're trying
to decide
967
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,320
whether somebody broke
a given law,
968
00:41:08,321 --> 00:41:09,688
you could ask
a judge to decide,
969
00:41:09,689 --> 00:41:12,824
somebody who's trained
in the law,
970
00:41:12,825 --> 00:41:14,726
or you could turn
the matter over to 12 lunkheads
971
00:41:14,727 --> 00:41:16,061
who never finished high school
972
00:41:16,062 --> 00:41:18,096
and get their legal
interpretation.
973
00:41:21,833 --> 00:41:23,801
God, look at the two of them.
974
00:41:23,802 --> 00:41:26,737
Ten bucks says he
tries to kiss her.
975
00:41:26,738 --> 00:41:28,473
You're on.
976
00:41:28,474 --> 00:41:30,275
She's way too much for him.
977
00:41:30,276 --> 00:41:31,442
Doesn't matter;
give him enough time,
978
00:41:31,443 --> 00:41:32,610
he'll try to kiss her.
979
00:41:32,611 --> 00:41:33,678
I know my people.
980
00:41:36,447 --> 00:41:38,081
Speaking of which, Tommy,
981
00:41:38,082 --> 00:41:40,317
isn't it time you become
one of my people?
982
00:41:40,318 --> 00:41:42,219
What are you talking about?
983
00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:43,620
Well, we practice law together.
984
00:41:43,621 --> 00:41:45,755
You visit our staff meetings.
985
00:41:45,756 --> 00:41:48,292
We jump in on your cases,
you jump in on ours.
986
00:41:48,293 --> 00:41:50,627
I mean, I'm saying
if it looks like a duck
987
00:41:50,628 --> 00:41:52,361
and quacks like a duck,
should you become
988
00:41:52,362 --> 00:41:54,363
one of my ducks?
989
00:41:54,364 --> 00:41:57,200
Isn't it time our firms
just merge?
990
00:42:00,737 --> 00:42:04,240
Oh, hell.
991
00:42:04,241 --> 00:42:06,576
All I ever really wanted...
992
00:42:06,577 --> 00:42:09,444
really, to, uh,
993
00:42:09,445 --> 00:42:12,647
be part of a family.
994
00:42:12,648 --> 00:42:14,583
You know?
995
00:42:14,584 --> 00:42:17,519
I need another drink.
996
00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:23,490
To quack for a team.
997
00:42:23,491 --> 00:42:28,491
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