1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,639 Previously on In Treatment. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,150 We just argue nonstop. I think it's beginning to affect my work. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,113 If they were to diagnose therapists whose marriages fell apart, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,072 how many cases of erotic transference would they find? 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,510 I don't think my marriage to Kate is falling apart. 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,471 Yes, I had a row with Laura... 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,239 - I... I mean with Kate. - Who's Laura? 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,748 The girl with the issue of... 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,438 erotic transference. 10 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:34,869 Gina, I didn't come here to talk about a patient. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,992 Did you come here to ask for my guidance? 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,758 Or to talk to me as a friend? 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,950 Are you seeking advice from a colleague? 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,911 What role have you assigned me? 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,758 I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm failing! 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,276 (Phone) 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,879 Hello. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,229 No, he's not here. Please don't call back. 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,029 Because he's dead. He died a year ago. 20 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,276 (CIock ticking) 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,631 (Dog barking outside) 22 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,434 Well, thank you for getting back to me. I... 23 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,675 - I appreciate it. - (Dog barking) 24 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,199 Mm-hm. 25 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,831 So I'll see you next week, then? 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,673 Same time. Yeah. Thank you. 27 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,914 Bye. 28 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,239 (Paul) Hi. 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,594 (Paul coughs and sniffs) 30 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,399 It's, er... 31 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,792 it's true. 32 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,672 Kate's been, er... 33 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,312 She's been seeing this guy. 34 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,758 You know, supermarket manager, 35 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,870 employment agency guy. 36 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:49,673 I forget what he does, but anyway... 37 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,314 He's divorced with a kid. 38 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,554 She made sure to tell me all the details. 39 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,959 So... 40 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,188 (BIows nose, chuckles) 41 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,718 - Did she say how long? - Everything's going to hell, 42 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,399 patients, family. 43 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,919 If I was... 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,839 If I was into astrology, I'd say there was something... 45 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,749 cosmic going on, planets colliding somewhere. 46 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,158 Um, first, you know one of my patients, the pilot I was telling you about? 47 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,397 He's leaving his wife. Just like that. 48 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,479 She grinds her teeth in her sleep, so marriage over. (Chuckles) 49 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,395 And the 16-year-old, the gymnast, 50 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,116 she's having an affair with this guy in his mid-40s, married guy. 51 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,675 Her coach. At least I think that's what she's hinting at. 52 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,395 And she also goes to the same school as my daughter. 53 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,432 And so I had the pleasure of finding out that... 54 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,550 Rosie was having a... 55 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,558 a thing with this boy at school. 56 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,435 I don't even know what a "thing" is. I don't even know if it's true. 57 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,553 I asked her, I got nowhere. She wouldn't tell me anything. 58 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,511 And then finally... 59 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,039 Kate. 60 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,714 (Clears throat) Is it me? 61 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,752 Kate says that... She says it's my fault. 62 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,792 I don't see her, that she's invisible. 63 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,628 She says I don't see the kids either. They're invisible too. 64 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,433 As far as I know, Rosie could be having sex with... 65 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,674 a drug addict. 66 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,156 Everybody talks about her at school. At least that's what she said. 67 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,475 - Who said... Kate said that? - No. 68 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,238 - I'm lost, Paul. - The girl. 69 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,909 - Sophie the gymnast. - You're talking about ten things at once. 70 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,916 No, she's in the same grade as Rosie. 71 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,951 Let... let's focus on Kate. 72 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,756 (Dog barking outside) 73 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,914 (Sighs) What am I supposed to do, Gina? 74 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,194 I mean, what am I supposed to do... 75 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,071 now? 76 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,156 Did she say what she thinks will happen now between the two of you? 77 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,035 I don't know. She said it's... She said it's up to me. 78 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,389 - What do you think that means? - You tell me. 79 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,876 She's banging some insurance salesman and it's up to me. 80 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,118 She gave me all the details. She blows him, she screws him, it's like a... 81 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,549 - It's like a porno film. - She told you that? 82 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,352 - Absolutely. - Why? 83 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,949 My conception... Well, maybe I should say my... 84 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,992 my misconception of Kate is that everything... 85 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,473 everything about sex was always connected to... 86 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,078 intimacy for her. 87 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,873 There was never anything weird or dirty about sex, 88 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,036 it was always about intimacy. 89 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,675 Now I feel if... if someone throws the word "intimacy" at me, 90 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,312 I want to punch her in the mouth. 91 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,199 Punch her in the mouth? 92 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,277 - Pardon? - You said "punch her". 93 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,156 Oh. 94 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,716 You know, all that bullshit that I thought meant intimacy to her, 95 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,957 the candles, the back rubs, feeling safe... 96 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,673 meanwhile she's in her own porno film, 97 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,233 fucking this... 98 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,519 this guy. 99 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,629 I... I'm trying to figure out why she would tell you graphic details. 100 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,593 - Because she wanted to hurt me. - Did you ask for details? 101 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,229 Yeah. I... 102 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,478 I just wanted to... (Sighs) 103 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,318 I wanted to get a grasp of the situation, you know. 104 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,918 She made sure you wouldn't ignore what she was saying. 105 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,995 I think you knew what was going on. 106 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,553 Last week when we spoke, I think you knew. 107 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,036 I'm sure Kate sensed that as well - your suspicion. 108 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,718 Maybe I'm wrong. 109 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,237 I knew. 110 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,959 I did know. 111 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,795 You'd think that would make it easier, you know. (Chuckles) 112 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,230 Almost threw her out of the house. 113 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,435 It was like, "You hurt me. 114 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,799 "OK. 115 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,389 "I'm gonna hurt you. Now just get the fuck out of here." 116 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,672 I mean, there are a thousand ways that people can deal with these things. 117 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,915 We could have gone to therapy. 118 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,996 For example. 119 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 I mean, not everybody has to fuck around. 120 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,672 (Paul clears throat) 121 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,749 What's that? 122 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,632 Coldex. Night. 123 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,072 Well, they're supposed to be stronger than Coldex Day. 124 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,908 I've... had two of them already. They kind of make you a bit stoned. 125 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,155 Do you want some tea, Paul? 126 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,078 - Water would be good. Thanks. - Sure. 127 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,909 I had a session yesterday with that, erm... 128 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,359 Thanks. 129 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,192 ...with that couple who called me a... 130 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,470 who called me a murderer. 131 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,238 In the middle of the session... 132 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,152 she runs to the bathroom and she starts to bleed. 133 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,633 What happened? 134 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:40,671 - Miscarriage. - Oh, my God. 135 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,869 Mm. It was pretty scary. 136 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,876 - Is she all right? - I think she's fine. 137 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,357 I just spoke to her at the hospital and they're running some tests, but she seems to be OK. 138 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,119 (Chuckles) At least I'm not a murderer. 139 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,948 Though I wouldn't be surprised if the husband blamed me for everything. 140 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,958 I don't know, stress as a result of therapy. 141 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,672 It's possible. 142 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,432 Ironically... 143 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,677 they'd both just kind of worked out their problem. 144 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,312 They weren't arguing, 145 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,397 which for them was a major accomplishment. 146 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,032 And he said to me, 147 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,992 "This is our last session." 148 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,270 And then... 149 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,595 Then it happened. 150 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,677 Mm. (Clears throat) 151 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,393 Anyway, I was trying to get the blood out of the couch, 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,749 cos when she got up she left a stain, 153 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,155 and Kate walks into the room. 154 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,794 And she looks around and she says... 155 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,549 "What goes on in this office?" 156 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,272 (Chuckles) 157 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:44,555 Anyway... 158 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,434 - Quite a week. - Yeah. 159 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,993 Quite a week. 160 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,431 - Ultimatums from two women. - Mm? 161 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,754 Kate and Laura. 162 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,268 - Laura? - She tells you she's in love with you. 163 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,874 What... what are we going back to that for? 164 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,275 I've just been talking about something different. 165 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,038 You don't think it's relevant? 166 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,150 You described two women attacking you. 167 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,158 Two women. What about three women? 168 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,518 Does it feel like I'm attacking? 169 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,875 Maybe that's why you're taking pills, to protect yourself against me. 170 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,399 Did I mention I have a cold? 171 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,079 Last week you called me a "sleepy spider". 172 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,269 In wait. 173 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,638 Were you... 174 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:31,477 were you insulted by that? 175 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,794 No. 176 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,831 Good. I take it back. 177 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,918 - You're not sleepy. - (Laughs) 178 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,388 Would you agree that your relationship with Kate has been a wall 179 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,432 between you and your patients so that you're safe? 180 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,391 You know, you're not attracted to them? 181 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,758 Attraction's... 182 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,553 - it's not a problem. - No. 183 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,876 Well, Freud, Messer, Davies, 184 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,478 all the big guys, 185 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,830 they all talk about how attraction is inevitable, it's part of therapy. 186 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,950 But if you brush it under the rug, 187 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,233 the message that you're giving to the patient is that their feelings are perverse or dangerous. 188 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,397 Their feelings. I'm talking about your feelings. 189 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,513 I'm not worried that Laura will try and break down the wall on her own. 190 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:26,755 I'm worried that you want her to. 191 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:30,518 The... the wall? (Chuckles) 192 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,630 What is this metaphor? 193 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,034 - My wife is a wall? - You don't agree? 194 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,594 I'm... I'm not hiding from my patients. 195 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,154 - That essay that Bollas wrote about... - Forget Bollas, Paul. 196 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,833 Every time we go deeper, you reach for some theory, 197 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,316 these male therapists tormented by lust for their patients. 198 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,429 Right? 199 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,233 I mention Laura and that's who you start quoting. 200 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,271 But why are we even talking about Laura? 201 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,754 Because I want you to hear what you're saying, 202 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,271 that you're surrounded by women who demand that you respond and love, 203 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,153 and be angry and feel, 204 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,191 that you face your feelings. 205 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,632 (Dog barking outside) 206 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,118 Mm. 207 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,273 Did I mention that Laura is, er... 208 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,276 is getting married in June? 209 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,719 No. 210 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,152 So Laura's over. 211 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,519 That's... 212 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:35,596 That's... finished. 213 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,915 If anyone wants to pull down a wall, it's Kate. 214 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,075 Why? 215 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,032 Secrecy. She... She hates it. 216 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,116 She hates that I can't share it. 217 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,276 - You mean work? - Yeah, she resents my office. 218 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,836 It's like enemy territory to her, she's always trying to make it her space. 219 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,398 A piece of it, like "Let's get a new sofa or new blinds, or a rug or something." 220 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,839 - Do you let her? - No, I don't. 221 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,599 - Why not? - Because I agree with her. 222 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,993 It's not her space. 223 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,919 I... 224 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,351 There was a time when I used to talk about my patients when lan was a kid. 225 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,437 I would share... share details. 226 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,268 - With Kate. You don't mean lan? - Both of them at the dinner table. 227 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,553 Oh, I see that look of horror on your face. 228 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,272 - (Chuckles) - No, I was pretty discreet, actually. 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,912 I never mentioned any names. 230 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,590 If someone mentioned rats I'd say I had a patient with a fear of rats. 231 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,438 Dreamed about rats every night. You know, stuff like that. 232 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,675 - You don't do that now? - No. 233 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,110 But I remember when lan was about ten he asked me, 234 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,390 "Dad, what's an alcoholic?" 235 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,238 And I told him about this patient of mine 236 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,716 who needed a drink, actually, to get out of bed in the morning. 237 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,432 And, er... 238 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,600 one day this man came up to the office and he was kind of staggering and lan said, 239 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,473 - "Dad, is that the alcoholic?" - (Chuckles) 240 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,200 - Hmm. - You were careless. 241 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,679 Mmm. 242 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,118 The situation now, I think, 243 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,151 there's more at stake. 244 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,078 - You agree? - Why? Because we're talking about a woman? 245 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,917 Sexual attraction. 246 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,789 Can I ask you a question? 247 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,277 Let's say you're in the middle of a session and the patient needed to use the bathroom, 248 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,709 and your bathroom is blocked up. 249 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,513 Would you let them use the bathroom in your house? 250 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,553 - Did that happen? - Yeah. Laura said that she had to pee. 251 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,910 And I told her, "Well, the toilet's blocked up." 252 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,154 And... 253 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,875 So she headed for the door of the house and I freaked out, I jumped up and... 254 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,319 I stopped her. 255 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,794 I'm keeping your metaphor going here, 256 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,798 - I hope you appreciate that, about the... - She tried to scale the wall. 257 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Mm-hm. Well, there's always a patient who wants to know about you. 258 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,833 More about your private self. 259 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,999 Anyway... 260 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,434 (Sighs) 261 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,313 - What did you do? - I jumped up, I panicked. 262 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,477 - What made you panic? - She was doing it on purpose, I felt. 263 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,308 I thought, "Why can't she hold it for another ten minutes?" 264 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,351 Why did I panic? 265 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,310 I don't know, really. 266 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,714 Has that ever happened with another patient? 267 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,274 Uh, Sophie the gymnast. 268 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,595 She came in last week and... 269 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,871 it had been raining and she was completely soaked. 270 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,879 So... I let her change into my daughter's clothes. 271 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,718 - That didn't make you uncomfortable? - No. 272 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,672 That's a lot more intimate than using the bathroom. 273 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,948 Rosie's clothes. 274 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,389 Well, she... (Coughs) 275 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,079 She had casts on both her arms. 276 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,712 From the accident. 277 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,832 And she held up her hands like this and she said... 278 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,557 "Undress me." 279 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,750 So I got Kate to come in and help her. 280 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,519 - How old did you say she was? - 16. 281 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,710 And this girl is sleeping with her adult coach? 282 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,955 Well, she might be sleeping with her coach. 283 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,514 It's a loaded situation her asking you to undress her. 284 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,552 - She was messing with me. - Mm-hm. 285 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,750 - You had no problem handling that? - No. 286 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,758 You had Kate help her, undress her, give her your daughter's clothes, 287 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,837 but when Laura needs to use the bathroom, you freak out. 288 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,757 - Why is that? - Laura is a woman. 289 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,995 Sophie's just a... She's just a child. 290 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,519 Shouldn't that make it easier? 291 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,553 Uh... 292 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,790 You know, there was... There was a part of me that... 293 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,559 that really wanted Laura to go through the door... 294 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,591 to see where I live, 295 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,154 maybe to, uh... to see Kate. 296 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,428 You wanted that? 297 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,511 Is that what scared you? 298 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,238 Did you discuss what Laura told you last week? 299 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,991 Well, she said that the reason that she was gonna marry this guy, this boyfriend, Andrew, 300 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,918 was because I told her I wasn't interested. 301 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,669 I know what you're thinking, but I made it really clear. 302 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,713 I said, "Nothing is going to happen between us." 303 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,512 Good. 304 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,156 "I'm just... I'm not gonna play along. This is not going to happen." 305 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:44,636 In your mind, is there any possibility that the affair could become a reality? 306 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,517 - (Scoffs) - No, in your mind. 307 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,473 Look, I have to admit, sometimes it's... it's flattering. 308 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,911 I... I... I can't help but enjoy the... the feeling. 309 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,672 But I told her no. 310 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,790 I said, "This cannot happen. 311 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,638 "You cannot go through that door, there are limits." 312 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,990 Is that what upset you, that she was testing you? 313 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,156 Gina, it's not that abstract. 314 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,997 She's... she's a beautiful woman. 315 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,310 She says she wants to have sex with me, I... 316 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,358 I know what's in her head, 317 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,756 so I don't want her going through the door and maybe bumping into Kate. 318 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,519 But you said you did want that. 319 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,551 Some part of you wanted that. 320 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,398 No, I... No. 321 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,277 The point I'm making is that I want Laura to understand that we can survive this, 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,437 that any attraction that comes up between us, I can handle. 323 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,074 I am not going to let this derail the therapy. 324 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,031 - Her wanting to sleep with you? - Yeah. 325 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,718 How did she put it exactly? 326 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,353 Oh, that she knows that... 327 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,197 I want her. 328 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,028 She said that she wants to... (Clears throat) 329 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,959 ...to fuck me and that she knows that I want to fuck her too. 330 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,748 That's a lot to stave off. 331 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,430 - That kind of intensity. - She can be very direct, Laura. 332 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,630 Maybe that's why I panicked. 333 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,551 Here's what I think, Paul. 334 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,115 And you can accept this or tell me I'm interfering again, but... 335 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,912 given the situation with Kate, 336 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,635 I think we... we might explore the option 337 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,035 of transferring Laura to another therapist. 338 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,110 - What? - Just hear me out on this, Paul. 339 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,516 Because Laura thinks she wants to sleep with me? 340 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,313 Last week you thought we were already having sex. 341 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,079 I thought an affair had begun and you were trying to justify it. 342 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,396 - Oh, thanks, Gina. - No, I was wrong. I'm sorry. 343 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,476 I jumped to conclusions and... 344 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,317 You've reassured me. 345 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:54,590 But not the situation with Kate. 346 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,916 How emotional you are, the pressure you're under. 347 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,555 Listen to yourself. You're injured, you're vulnerable, 348 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,670 you're angry. 349 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,711 This isn't me being stubborn, Paul. 350 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,437 I think we should just discuss the possibility that Laura's better off with a different therapist. 351 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,438 - A female therapist, you mean? - Yeah, preferably. 352 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,233 - You, for instance? - No, I'm retired, remember? 353 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,998 This is so typical of you, Gina. 354 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,875 You know, you always begin by saying, "I hate to say this, but..." 355 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,037 "But..." Then you lay some pronouncement on me 356 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,958 that you've already been thinking about before the session. 357 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,797 This isn't a debate club, you know. 358 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,037 It's not like we take a position and we hunt for ways to support it. 359 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,390 That's not what I'm doing. I'm listening. 360 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,671 You have Kate on one side and you have Laura on the other. 361 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,792 They're two totally different situations, Gina. 362 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,271 Are you saying that I pushed Kate into this situation, 363 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,880 that I created this environment at home? 364 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,879 So that Kate could go fuck an insurance agent, 365 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,708 because really I'm in love with Laura, isn't that your theory? 366 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,398 Your notes somewhere? 367 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,795 - Look at how you're reacting. - How am I reacting? 368 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,630 I am not sending Laura to another therapist. End of story. 369 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,555 I can handle whatever comes up in the sessions. 370 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,831 That's why I'm here, because I want you to help me to handle it. 371 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,078 - We just need to discuss this, Paul. - I don't want to pawn her off on somebody. 372 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,350 We need to examine what's best for Laura. 373 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,870 Honestly, if it wasn't for Kate cheating... 374 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,236 I wouldn't be here, Gina. 375 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,588 And we haven't talked about your comment the last time, I'm... 376 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,916 - I'm still pretty pissed off about that. - About what? 377 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,953 You made a crack about my father leaving my mother for a patient. 378 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,230 What was that supposed to mean? 379 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,829 That I can't treat Laura because of what my father did years ago? 380 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,316 - I'm not my father, for Christ's sake. - No, you're not your father. 381 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,750 I'm suggesting a pattern that might be threatening to you. 382 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,793 Are you or are you not, Gina, saying that, because of my father, 383 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,877 that I am in danger of having an affair? 384 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,999 My... 385 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,632 My gut... 386 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,359 You can't answer it, can you? 387 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,877 No, I can't. 388 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,913 If I remember correctly, you were faced with the same scenario yourself. 389 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,428 So maybe this isn't really about my father. 390 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,948 Maybe it's about you, Gina. 391 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,117 Don't forget I was the one who referred Charlie to you. 392 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,158 I remember he called me after one of your sessions, 393 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,191 and he confessed to me that... 394 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,157 that he was in love with you. 395 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,236 No, actually, he went further. 396 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,396 He said that you were in love with each other. 397 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,752 Maybe he was wrong. 398 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,952 I don't know. Either way, you needed to face that and you didn't. 399 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,355 You just ran off to England. 400 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,790 You know what? I could not believe when that happened. 401 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080 That was a wake-up call for me, 402 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,315 watching you behave like that. 403 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,598 - I didn't run away. - Come on. A sabbatical with David? 404 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,437 At that moment? 405 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,876 By the way, is that what your novel is about? 406 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,398 I figured. 407 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,908 You failed the same test yourself, Gina. 408 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,190 But you abandoned the patient. 409 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,078 He tried to get hold of you over the years, didn't he? 410 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,878 A few letters. 411 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,319 (Clears throat) 412 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,351 I didn't answer. (Clears throat) 413 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,710 You do know that he died a few months ago. 414 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,189 Prostate cancer. Hmm. 415 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,989 It was right after David and I couldn't go to another funeral. 416 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,156 I just couldn't... I couldn't face it. 417 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,075 It's funny, you know, I was talking about Charlie the other day. 418 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,831 To a patient of mine. I was... 419 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,395 I was saying that I'd been to his funeral and that I was... 420 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800 I couldn't feel sadness. 421 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,598 And I was, you know, beating myself up about it. 422 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,597 The truth is I was... 423 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,948 I was so disillusioned with you, Gina. 424 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,036 For keeping you on as a supervisor. 425 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,790 After what you pulled, what you did with Charlie, I should have just walked out then. 426 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,835 You know that he never, ever got over you? 427 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,389 Since we're digging for the truth... 428 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,309 may I ask how you really feel about Laura? 429 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:23,912 I haven't heard a clear answer. Not what you're going to do about her, but how you feel. 430 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,317 - Do you mean am I attracted to her? - Are you? 431 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,432 Come on, if I transferred every patient that I was attracted to, 432 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,357 I wouldn't have any patients left. 433 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,277 And it's not your place to say I should transfer a patient. 434 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,552 It's like me telling that couple to have an abortion. It's not what therapists do. 435 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,195 We don't tell people how to run their lives. 436 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,792 I'm suggesting that we talk about stopping Laura's therapy and look at your reaction. 437 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,710 Paul, do you really need another pill? 438 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,832 Tomorrow's Saturday. I can sleep all day Sunday. 439 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,152 I don't really care if they knock me out or not, really. 440 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,790 What you're going through with Kate is so complicated. 441 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,437 Yeah. 442 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,629 English SDH