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- Subs created by: David Coleman.
- On this episode...
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Of Haunted Collector...
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Here we are in Madison, Ohio.
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In 1962, the building is converted
into a mental institution.
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It felt like I was hit with a lead pipe.
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It was terrifying.
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Somebody just started screaming
like they're being brutally murdered.
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Welcome to Mendon, Massachusetts.
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My children refuse to go
upstairs. They're petrified.
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A young boy died when
he was seven years old.
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Those stains can come
from blood remaining on it.
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Oh my God!
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Are you the one they hear
running throughout the house?
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- What the hell is that?
- What?
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- What is that right there?
- Holy [Bleep]!
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There's nothing and
then all of a sudden...
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- Right there!
- That.
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- Are you seeing that?
- Oh my God!
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My name is John Zaffis.
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For over 40 years, I've been helping
people with their paranormal problems.
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I found that spirits can
attach themselves to objects...
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- Whoa. There it goes. There it goes.
- Oh, my God.
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And make life a living hell.
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That's where my team comes in.
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My son Chris, my daughter Aimee.
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Brian my tech guy, Jason my researcher.
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And Jesslyn my investigator.
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- My job...
- What is that?
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Man on walkie-talkie:
Don't touch that thing.
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Find the haunted item and remove it.
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Because I am the Haunted Collector.
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- Hey.
- Hey, buddy, what are you doing?
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Just taking a look at this bed
frame that we got from Hawaii.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Just seeing if anything's
still lingering around it.
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Glad you're checking it out.
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All right, I got a new
case that we just got.
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Her name is Karyn and
she owns a Seminary.
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Hi, John, this is Karyn Cassell. We own
the Madison Seminary in Madison, Ohio.
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We are experiencing, we believe, some
paranormal activity within our building.
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We believe that we have
seen a nurse apparition.
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Sometimes our inhabitants
are not so friendly and...
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They pull our hair, poke us.
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I even have been hit on my hand.
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I feel whatever is
here is out to harm me.
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My plans for the building are to
remodel it for professional office space.
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And we would appreciate any
help that you could give.
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I can understand why they're trying
to figure out what's happening.
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Okay, why don't you get a hold of the
gang and let's pack up and head out there.
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Okay.
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All right, I'll need a
hand with the equipment.
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Okay, guys, I had you look
at the video and everything.
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Karyn purchased this building,
they're trying to restore it.
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From what I understand, the idea
is to kind of clean up the building,
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and rent it out to other
small local businesses.
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The building is known as Madison Seminary
and that's what they called schools
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back in 1845 when it
started as a boarding school.
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And it then became in 1891,
housing for elderly widows,
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many of them had lost their
husbands in The Civil War.
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Many of them probably passed away there.
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Around 1962, it was
purchased by the state,
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and it was converted
into a mental institution.
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There's been quite a few institutions over
the years that I've been investigating and,
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these types of buildings
definitely hold on to energy.
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Hi, Karyn, John Zaffis.
How are you doing?
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- Hello nice to meet you.
- My daughter Aimee.
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Welcome to Madison Seminary.
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This is the first floor of the Seminary.
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At times we feel really
uncomfortable in the building.
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One day we noticed that
the windows were open.
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I came up here to close the windows and,
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we heard a muffled conversation
between two men in the hallway.
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Couldn't really understand
exactly what they were saying.
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Did you investigate to see if the
building was broken into at all?
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The broken was not broken into
and there was nobody else around.
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Also, one night I went to
reach for the door knob,
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and it felt like I was
hit with a lead pipe.
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It hit me out of thin air, and it
landed between my thumb and my finger.
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And basically I thought
that my hand was broken.
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It was terrifying and I think that
there's something in the building,
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that was trying to intimidate me.
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We're on the second floor where
the mentally ill patients lived.
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We have seen an
apparition in this hallway,
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of a lady who is carrying
a tray like a nurse.
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Also, we have seen doors open and close.
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Even though there's no other windows
or doors that are open on this floor.
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Karyn, what do you
know about the building
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during the time it was
a mental institution?
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Well, it became part of the Ohio
Department of Mental Rehab in 1949.
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And then it was
subsequently shut down due to
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questionable, maybe
inhumane, practices here.
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Well, Karyn, I see this chair.
Was this left in the building?
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We do not know where this chair
came from. It was in the building.
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Knowing that it was
a mental institution,
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it is possible that perhaps it was
used to restrain a patient's head.
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These types of items can definitely
hold on to some negative energy.
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Now we're on the third floor.
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We think back in the early days
the children were housed up here.
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It would've been typical of
older buildings at the time.
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People have been poked up
here, their hair's been pulled.
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My son Thomas has also
had some experiences.
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Can you tell me a little bit
about what's going on here?
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I was down the hallway over there and it
just seemed like someone about my height
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or a little bit shorter just
came up and just grabbed...
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Just grabbed me and just held me.
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It was not a pleasant feeling.
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What else have you heard or seen?
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Out of nowhere someone
will just start screaming
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like they're being brutally murdered.
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It's always female. It sounds like
probably the same female every time.
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It does lead you to believe
that something happened here.
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Maybe a little bit of abuse.
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Wow.
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This has been found in the building.
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Looks like an old field stretcher
so it seems odd it would be here,
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but people could've died it could've
been used to transport bodies.
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Just think of the energy
that could be holding on to.
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All right, Karyn, we're
gonna get the team in here.
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We'll be in for a couple
of nights investigating.
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We'll do all we can to
get some answers for ya.
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- Thank you.
- Okay.
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We got a lot of different
things here to really check out.
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So, I'm very curious to see if
there's anything happening in here,
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that we can prove or debunk.
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Jesslyn and I are gonna
take the main floor.
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Chris, Brian, and Jason are gonna
take the second floor and the attic.
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Hey, Jay, do you know
anything about this chair?
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It's original to the building.
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I mean, it looks like something
that would be used in a hospital.
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- Are you getting anything?
- I'm getting nothing.
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What do you think
about an E.V.P. Session?
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- Absolutely, let's try it.
- All right.
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Recorder rolling.
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Did you work here?
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Does something in here belong to you?
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Is there somebody in here with us?
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Can you tell us your name?
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Go ahead play yours back.
See if there's anything on it.
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Did you work here?
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Does something in here belong to you?
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Is there somebody in here with us?
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[Whispering]
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- What was that saying?
- Who is that?
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Can you tell us your name?
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Here with us?
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[Whispering]
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North.
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- That's clear as day.
- North.
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- What the hell does it mean?
- I don't know.
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What is this over here?
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That's a field stretcher.
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Really?
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It's definitely old.
Any readings off of it?
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- I really haven't gotten any readings.
- This has been at zero the entire time.
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- Looks like an old dumbwaiter.
- Nice.
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Yeah.
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You guys wanna do an
E.V.P. Session down here?
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Yeah.
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Did you work here when this
was a mental institution?
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Did you used to stay here?
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[Rustling]
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Is it squeaking?
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- Where's that coming from?
- It was coming from here.
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- There's nothing in here.
- There's nothing, nothing down there.
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- Do you see another access point?
- Yep, there's one right below us.
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- Stay here. I'll run down.
- Go, man.
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Going.
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Bingo.
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- Hey.
- All right, what can you see?
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For the life of me I can't see what
would've been making that noise.
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All right, here's something.
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I can't quite reach it. It's
attached to the end of the cable.
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- Pull the cable up.
- Okay.
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Okay, I got it.
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What the heck is that?
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Hello?
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Get the hell out of here.
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Guys, get down here.
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What the hell?
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Are you okay, dude?
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Get the hell out of here.
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Guys, get down here.
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What the hell?
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- Are you okay, dude?
- I'm okay. This moved.
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No.
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Jay, just as soon as you pulled whatever
that was up, I heard a big scrape.
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And apparently this is now here.
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- No.
- Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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I'm trying to find some evidence of
it being dragged across the floor.
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- Did you see it?
- No, I just heard the noise.
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I thought it was you pulling whatever
it was up, but it was coming from here.
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I'm not getting any readings.
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Dude, this thing's gotta weigh
like close to forty pounds, man.
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This is what I heard.
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No way.
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But it, it... it was even louder.
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It would take a lot
of energy to move this,
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and I'm getting no residual
signature off of this whatsoever.
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- What'd you pull up?
- Just looked like an old piece of cloth.
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I don't know what it was. We'll
have to take a closer look at it.
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Let's go get it.
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I mean, it's freaking
as dirty as can be.
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It looks like it could
be maybe part of a dress.
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Flip it over, are there any tags?
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Obliterated. Is this a tag? No.
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I think the imagination
can run wild as to why
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a piece of clothing
could be down a shaft.
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But until we have some
more info about this,
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I think let's just keep it as
material evidence for tonight.
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I think this is something
John's gonna be interested in.
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Jason and I are gonna meet with Cathy.
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She's a local historian and author,
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and she knows a lot about the
history of the Madison Seminary.
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We're hoping to learn more about
when it was a mental institution,
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when it was used to house elderly widows,
and if there were any strange deaths here.
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Last night during the
investigation, we had a bunch of
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activity that was centered
around this medical chair.
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We've heard there was a
lot of malpractice going
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on there and that's why it
was shut down, is that true?
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That is not the reason
it was closed down at all.
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The truth is is that they
ran out of money to fund it.
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We also know the Seminary was home
at one time for elderly war widows.
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Yes, in fact this is the lot
where many of them are buried.
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Oh wow.
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Are there any deaths in
particular, that stick
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out in your mind that
you could tell us about?
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There is one notable woman.
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Here name was Elizabeth Brown Stiles.
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And she actually was a
Civil War spy for the Union.
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Could you tell us a
little bit more about her?
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The catalyst for Elizabeth's becoming
a spy was her husband's death.
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Her husband was killed before
her eyes by Confederates.
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They shot him point blank.
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Being a female spy back then, how did
she go about gathering intelligence?
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She would be disguised as a
nurse. She actually was a nurse.
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In fact, she helped on a lot of
amputations with the Confederacy.
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That's very interesting.
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In fact, this is the
grave of Elizabeth Stiles.
240
00:13:19,173 --> 00:13:21,033
Wow.
241
00:13:22,443 --> 00:13:26,746
In light of some of this information
about Elizabeth Stiles, I'm very curious.
242
00:13:26,747 --> 00:13:29,281
Is she the one that's
haunting this building?
243
00:13:29,282 --> 00:13:31,497
If she was a spy for the Union Army,
244
00:13:31,498 --> 00:13:36,897
this could explain the "North" E.V.P.
that Jess and I captured last night.
245
00:13:36,898 --> 00:13:38,191
_.
246
00:13:38,192 --> 00:13:43,463
And her disguise as a nurse could explain
the apparition that Karyn has seen.
247
00:13:43,464 --> 00:13:47,904
But what is Elizabeth trying to tell us?
248
00:13:53,174 --> 00:13:57,440
Tonight, Jason will man the
monitors on the third floor.
249
00:13:57,441 --> 00:14:00,981
Brian and I will
investigate the second floor.
250
00:14:00,982 --> 00:14:06,202
And Jess and Chris will
check out the first floor.
251
00:14:16,374 --> 00:14:19,299
Now let's try some E.V.P.s
and see what we get.
252
00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:21,234
All right.
253
00:14:21,235 --> 00:14:24,938
Are you the one people
see walking around?
254
00:14:24,939 --> 00:14:30,610
Somebody said, "North" to us
last night. What does that mean?
255
00:14:30,611 --> 00:14:34,571
Can you tell us what year it is?
256
00:14:34,982 --> 00:14:37,802
Did you see that?
257
00:14:40,921 --> 00:14:44,701
- Is someone down there?
- Yes!
258
00:14:44,792 --> 00:14:47,860
It was like somebody just
walked right down this hallway.
259
00:14:47,861 --> 00:14:50,230
But it went this way, Chris.
260
00:14:50,231 --> 00:14:52,532
There's nobody here.
261
00:14:52,533 --> 00:14:56,936
- You looked in there?
- Yeah, I looked in all these rooms.
262
00:14:56,937 --> 00:15:01,137
There's nobody else up here with us.
263
00:15:01,142 --> 00:15:03,782
It's so weird.
264
00:15:08,282 --> 00:15:09,782
Are you getting anything?
265
00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:15,423
No, but actually that's why
I brought along the V.R.M.
266
00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,994
- Right in this area.
- No, I'm hearing it right here.
267
00:15:20,995 --> 00:15:22,862
- Really?
- Yeah.
268
00:15:22,863 --> 00:15:24,631
Well, why?
269
00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:27,734
It's not like there's anything
electrical that should be causing this.
270
00:15:27,735 --> 00:15:32,715
No, I know it. But it's
just... it's strange.
271
00:15:40,014 --> 00:15:42,234
What the?
272
00:15:42,483 --> 00:15:44,523
Holy...
273
00:15:46,521 --> 00:15:49,256
- Hey, guys, you there?
- Yeah, buddy, what's up?
274
00:15:49,257 --> 00:15:51,625
I just had something
come across the monitors.
275
00:15:51,626 --> 00:15:57,386
We're gonna come right up
and take a look at that, dude.
276
00:15:58,132 --> 00:16:02,212
Watch on the wall behind the chair.
277
00:16:05,773 --> 00:16:07,907
Oh. Oh my God, dude!
278
00:16:07,908 --> 00:16:11,808
Play that again! Play that again!
279
00:16:13,814 --> 00:16:15,982
- There it goes.
- Dude.
280
00:16:15,983 --> 00:16:19,352
Hang on a second. I mean, if it went up
through the ceiling, isn't it up here?
281
00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:22,255
Would be because the hallway's
right over in that area over there.
282
00:16:22,256 --> 00:16:25,008
Let's go check that out.
283
00:16:25,009 --> 00:16:27,211
How are we supposed to figure
out where this thing went?
284
00:16:27,212 --> 00:16:32,252
It's not like it's going
to leave a footprint.
285
00:16:32,766 --> 00:16:38,666
Wow, this room is really damaged. I
think it's the worst one of all of them.
286
00:16:48,816 --> 00:16:52,176
What is that right there?
287
00:16:52,286 --> 00:16:53,953
Oh, [Bleep]!
288
00:16:53,954 --> 00:16:55,994
[Bleep]
289
00:17:00,305 --> 00:17:03,665
What is that right there?
290
00:17:04,008 --> 00:17:05,843
Oh, [Bleep]!
291
00:17:05,844 --> 00:17:08,979
[Bleep]! That thing went right
back in. Did you see that?
292
00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:10,900
Yeah.
293
00:17:11,383 --> 00:17:14,117
Something pulled it through.
294
00:17:14,118 --> 00:17:17,187
Actually, I can still see
a little bit of cloth here.
295
00:17:17,188 --> 00:17:21,628
Open this up. I wanna see what that is.
296
00:17:23,795 --> 00:17:26,015
Oh, yeah.
297
00:17:29,534 --> 00:17:33,103
- Oh, dude.
- Oh, wait a minute, something's tied up.
298
00:17:33,104 --> 00:17:35,684
It's tied up.
299
00:17:43,382 --> 00:17:46,016
- Oh my goodness.
- Some mesh?
300
00:17:46,017 --> 00:17:48,719
Wait a minute now.
301
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,287
Wow.
302
00:17:50,288 --> 00:17:53,027
Obviously it's too soon
to jump to any conclusions,
303
00:17:53,028 --> 00:17:55,359
but that seems like what
we pulled out yesterday.
304
00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,429
That's right. All right,
this is definitely clothing.
305
00:17:58,430 --> 00:18:01,298
I don't know what period
it is or anything but,
306
00:18:01,299 --> 00:18:07,199
I need to get this to somebody
tomorrow to see what I can find out.
307
00:18:08,907 --> 00:18:11,942
Last night we found some old
clothing up in the ceiling.
308
00:18:11,943 --> 00:18:14,311
Today, I'm meeting
with Jonathan Anderson.
309
00:18:14,312 --> 00:18:18,609
He's an expert in antique
clothing and a costume designer.
310
00:18:18,610 --> 00:18:22,398
So I'm hoping he's gonna be able to
share some information on these items.
311
00:18:22,399 --> 00:18:24,079
_.
312
00:18:24,856 --> 00:18:28,568
This is from the 1800s because of the
way it's sown, it looks like it was...
313
00:18:28,569 --> 00:18:31,311
Either sown by hand or
sown by a manual machine.
314
00:18:31,312 --> 00:18:32,992
_.
315
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,535
It has an inside pocket.
316
00:18:37,536 --> 00:18:38,720
Okay.
317
00:18:38,721 --> 00:18:40,738
And that's kinda rare.
318
00:18:40,739 --> 00:18:42,440
It was quite uncommon.
319
00:18:42,441 --> 00:18:47,210
What would the reason be that a woman
would want a pocket sown into her bonnet?
320
00:18:47,211 --> 00:18:52,950
As big as this is, I'm assuming
it's to hide stuff in there.
321
00:18:52,951 --> 00:18:56,987
And this is a blouse from the 1800s.
322
00:18:56,988 --> 00:19:00,958
Whoa, it looks like somebody got shot.
323
00:19:00,959 --> 00:19:04,528
- It has bullet holes.
- Bullet holes? How can you tell?
324
00:19:04,529 --> 00:19:07,865
Because look, it's burnt
over here and went through it.
325
00:19:07,866 --> 00:19:09,082
Here too.
326
00:19:09,083 --> 00:19:13,036
So, you're saying this person
looks like they were shot?
327
00:19:13,037 --> 00:19:16,907
Yes, and apparently she
was shot from the back.
328
00:19:16,908 --> 00:19:18,642
There's two different
type of bullet holes.
329
00:19:18,643 --> 00:19:22,245
These are smaller and
these are very big.
330
00:19:22,246 --> 00:19:24,705
I'm wondering if a person could
survive something like that.
331
00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:26,386
_.
332
00:19:27,574 --> 00:19:30,821
So, she may have survived
because to go through the corset,
333
00:19:30,822 --> 00:19:33,824
you have to go through whale
bone and that's very hard.
334
00:19:33,825 --> 00:19:38,042
As a spy, could Elizabeth Stiles
have survived these gunshots,
335
00:19:38,043 --> 00:19:41,131
and buried this clothing
to avoid detection?
336
00:19:41,132 --> 00:19:43,200
It's an intriguing possibility.
337
00:19:43,201 --> 00:19:49,101
I can't wait to get together with Karyn
and share some of this information.
338
00:19:51,743 --> 00:19:53,711
Well, Karyn, I thank
ya for inviting us in.
339
00:19:53,712 --> 00:19:56,413
We were able to find
out quite a bit for ya.
340
00:19:56,414 --> 00:20:00,806
We looked into when the building
was used to house elderly widows.
341
00:20:00,807 --> 00:20:04,467
And they were widows of The Civil
War and many of them died here.
342
00:20:04,468 --> 00:20:08,692
And one in particular that stood
out her name was Elizabeth Stiles.
343
00:20:08,693 --> 00:20:11,641
Her husband was killed
by the Confederate Army.
344
00:20:11,642 --> 00:20:14,546
And she in turn became
a spy for the Union Army,
345
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:17,234
which was pretty much
unheard of at that time.
346
00:20:17,235 --> 00:20:22,305
In an attempt to gain intelligence,
she would disguise herself as a nurse.
347
00:20:22,306 --> 00:20:26,476
This is a video that was
captured on the second floor.
348
00:20:26,477 --> 00:20:30,977
I want you to watch the chair over here.
349
00:20:31,482 --> 00:20:33,383
Wow, look at the shadow go past.
350
00:20:33,384 --> 00:20:37,912
That led us to coming up here and start
investigating up on the upper level.
351
00:20:37,913 --> 00:20:41,814
And we discovered something in between the
slats that I'd like to show you right now.
352
00:20:41,815 --> 00:20:43,735
Okay.
353
00:20:44,128 --> 00:20:47,230
It's a bonnet from the late 1800s.
354
00:20:47,231 --> 00:20:50,668
We found it in the wall and
it's pretty well preserved.
355
00:20:50,669 --> 00:20:54,838
That could've been used where she was
smuggling letters or smuggling anything.
356
00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:55,738
Okay.
357
00:20:55,739 --> 00:20:59,276
We definitely feel at this point in
time it could've belonged to Elizabeth.
358
00:20:59,277 --> 00:21:02,124
You have always felt that
something was watching you and.
359
00:21:02,125 --> 00:21:04,347
I'm wondering if it was
Elizabeth that was reaching out.
360
00:21:04,348 --> 00:21:05,833
Yes, yes.
361
00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:08,418
I went to the state archives
and I was able to find this.
362
00:21:08,419 --> 00:21:11,188
This is Elizabeth Stiles'
last will and testament.
363
00:21:11,189 --> 00:21:14,024
This explains what she wants
done with her personal belongings.
364
00:21:14,025 --> 00:21:19,925
She wanted them either buried with her or
to go to close friends or family members.
365
00:21:20,932 --> 00:21:22,650
So, what we're doing right now is we're
366
00:21:22,651 --> 00:21:25,569
working on trying to
locate a relative of hers.
367
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:27,984
I'm going to get together with them and,
368
00:21:27,985 --> 00:21:31,820
if it's okay with you, I'd like to
present those items to the family.
369
00:21:31,821 --> 00:21:34,309
- Okay?
- Absolutely. That would be a great thing.
370
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:37,615
And I think it will help to calm down
some of that more negative energy.
371
00:21:37,616 --> 00:21:41,696
- Thank you.
- You're very welcome.
372
00:21:56,001 --> 00:21:58,502
Hi, John, my name is Elizabeth Bouvier.
373
00:21:58,503 --> 00:22:02,539
We recently bought a farmhouse
in Mendon, Massachusetts.
374
00:22:02,540 --> 00:22:07,111
Since moving in, we've had a lot
of paranormal activity going on.
375
00:22:07,112 --> 00:22:10,347
We have light switches that
will physically turn on.
376
00:22:10,348 --> 00:22:13,951
There was actually footsteps
running down our hallway.
377
00:22:13,952 --> 00:22:19,023
My two-year-old son has actually never
had a problem sleeping by himself.
378
00:22:19,024 --> 00:22:20,457
He won't even go in his room.
379
00:22:20,458 --> 00:22:23,293
This is really impacting our family.
380
00:22:23,294 --> 00:22:24,494
We...
381
00:22:24,495 --> 00:22:26,697
I honestly don't feel comfortable.
382
00:22:26,698 --> 00:22:29,133
Can you please come out and
figure out what's going on?
383
00:22:29,134 --> 00:22:32,554
I don't know what to do.
384
00:22:36,641 --> 00:22:40,377
Okay, guys, this is a pretty
severe case and I'm very concerned.
385
00:22:40,378 --> 00:22:44,014
As you watch the video tape, it's to
the point where her kids are scared.
386
00:22:44,015 --> 00:22:45,816
Two of them are sleeping
in the living room.
387
00:22:45,817 --> 00:22:47,985
They won't even go
back into their bedroom.
388
00:22:47,986 --> 00:22:51,155
They've got a lot of
activity happening in there.
389
00:22:51,156 --> 00:22:54,952
That's why it's so important we try to
figure out what the hell is going on,
390
00:22:54,953 --> 00:22:59,453
so she can have some peace in the house.
391
00:23:15,113 --> 00:23:16,646
Hi, Elizabeth, John Zaffis.
392
00:23:16,647 --> 00:23:18,583
Hi, John, nice to meet
you. Thank you for coming.
393
00:23:18,584 --> 00:23:20,874
- This is my daughter Aimee.
- Aimee, nice to meet you.
394
00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:23,575
Please, come in.
395
00:23:25,456 --> 00:23:27,858
This is my bedroom.
396
00:23:27,859 --> 00:23:31,762
This is where the majority of the
things have been actually happening.
397
00:23:31,763 --> 00:23:34,464
How long were you here in the
house before activity started?
398
00:23:34,465 --> 00:23:36,102
- First night.
- The first night?
399
00:23:36,103 --> 00:23:37,327
The first night.
400
00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:39,436
So many noises going on in here.
401
00:23:39,437 --> 00:23:41,872
Lots of footsteps, banging.
402
00:23:41,873 --> 00:23:44,933
We've heard children.
403
00:23:45,143 --> 00:23:50,413
I know it's a kid knocking
on the side of the house.
404
00:23:50,414 --> 00:23:54,051
We've only been here a
few months and things...
405
00:23:54,052 --> 00:23:55,886
They're escalating.
406
00:23:55,887 --> 00:23:58,455
This is supposed to be my home.
407
00:23:58,456 --> 00:24:00,796
It is not.
408
00:24:02,293 --> 00:24:05,129
I jumped up, came around the
corner, and there was nobody there.
409
00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:07,965
My two-year-old
woke up screaming.
410
00:24:07,966 --> 00:24:10,067
What the hell is that?
411
00:24:10,068 --> 00:24:12,136
- You gotta be kidding me.
- It's the same thing.
412
00:24:12,137 --> 00:24:15,377
Right there. Oh my God!
413
00:24:18,394 --> 00:24:21,697
I see you got quite a collection
of swords and things around here.
414
00:24:21,698 --> 00:24:24,265
Yeah, we collect various items.
415
00:24:24,266 --> 00:24:29,170
A lot of them have come from
my parent's attic, auctions.
416
00:24:29,171 --> 00:24:32,273
We like the way they look.
I think they're pretty cool.
417
00:24:32,274 --> 00:24:36,211
I really like this one.
I know nothing about it.
418
00:24:36,212 --> 00:24:38,575
It looks like a bowie knife
and bowie knives were named
419
00:24:38,576 --> 00:24:42,396
after Jim bowie, who used
a large knife in a duel.
420
00:24:42,397 --> 00:24:46,528
And in the duel bowie was stabbed,
shot, and practically beaten to death,
421
00:24:46,529 --> 00:24:50,225
but he managed to live because
he was using this knife.
422
00:24:50,226 --> 00:24:52,373
You definitely can tell
that it's been used.
423
00:24:52,374 --> 00:24:53,827
It's definitely got those stains.
424
00:24:53,828 --> 00:24:56,197
A lot of times that can come
from blood remaining on it.
425
00:24:56,198 --> 00:25:00,578
It will deteriorate the metal like that.
426
00:25:02,071 --> 00:25:04,673
Has anyone else ever experienced
anything happen to them?
427
00:25:04,674 --> 00:25:05,889
- Yes.
- Okay.
428
00:25:05,890 --> 00:25:08,590
My husband Chad.
429
00:25:09,846 --> 00:25:12,814
So tell me a little bit about what's
been happening here in the house.
430
00:25:12,815 --> 00:25:15,083
Well, I was laying down in bed.
431
00:25:15,084 --> 00:25:20,331
It was 12:01 at night and as soon
as we shut the television off...
432
00:25:20,332 --> 00:25:23,786
I heard like a fifty pound child
running down the hallway barefoot,
433
00:25:23,787 --> 00:25:26,461
and the footsteps
stopped right at the door.
434
00:25:26,462 --> 00:25:31,800
So instantly I jumped up, came around
the corner, and there was nobody there.
435
00:25:31,801 --> 00:25:35,604
And you checked on the kids? You made
sure that none of them were out of bed?
436
00:25:35,605 --> 00:25:39,408
Yeah, they were all
sleeping. Out like lights.
437
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:42,477
I went through the whole house.
I checked upstairs in the attic.
438
00:25:42,478 --> 00:25:46,748
I know what I heard wasn't an
animal. It was definitely bare feet.
439
00:25:46,749 --> 00:25:50,169
That just left me baffled.
440
00:25:52,187 --> 00:25:55,390
This is the TV room/bedroom.
441
00:25:55,391 --> 00:25:56,591
Okay.
442
00:25:56,592 --> 00:25:59,895
This is where my
children are sleeping now.
443
00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:02,764
They refuse to go
upstairs. They're petrified.
444
00:26:02,765 --> 00:26:08,345
That first night, my
two-year-old he woke up screaming.
445
00:26:08,471 --> 00:26:10,739
Screaming that there was a man.
446
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:12,707
There's a man in my room.
447
00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:15,877
He won't go up there. So,
they sleep in here now.
448
00:26:15,878 --> 00:26:18,389
Anything in particular
as far as activity?
449
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:22,417
We have heard somebody walking upstairs.
450
00:26:22,418 --> 00:26:26,688
It doesn't make sense because
there's no floor above us.
451
00:26:26,689 --> 00:26:27,922
It's one level.
452
00:26:27,923 --> 00:26:31,463
Also, the fan will turn on.
453
00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:34,429
The light switches will turn on.
454
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:38,232
Have you had your husband check
anything about the electric in the house?
455
00:26:38,233 --> 00:26:40,368
He'll check everything.
456
00:26:40,369 --> 00:26:42,938
We can't explain it.
457
00:26:42,939 --> 00:26:46,508
I noticed there's a lot farm things in
here, where did all this stuff come from?
458
00:26:46,509 --> 00:26:50,912
My husband Chad. Everything
in here he's found.
459
00:26:50,913 --> 00:26:53,615
The shovel we actually found
the first week we moved in.
460
00:26:53,616 --> 00:26:55,216
That looks very old.
461
00:26:55,217 --> 00:26:58,061
I mean, that looks all
hand-forged, and I would say
462
00:26:58,062 --> 00:26:59,921
that it probably might
even predate the house.
463
00:26:59,922 --> 00:27:01,782
Wow.
464
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,233
- This is our basement.
- Mm hmm.
465
00:27:06,234 --> 00:27:08,888
- I don't feel comfortable down here.
- Okay.
466
00:27:08,889 --> 00:27:12,901
I did some research that people used
to hide coins and stuff in the walls.
467
00:27:12,902 --> 00:27:14,168
Yes.
468
00:27:14,169 --> 00:27:20,069
So I said, oh, I'll look around
downstairs, see if there's anything.
469
00:27:24,547 --> 00:27:26,408
- I didn't find coins.
- Okay.
470
00:27:26,409 --> 00:27:30,051
The first thing I
actually found was this.
471
00:27:30,052 --> 00:27:32,654
- It's a bone and a pendant.
- Okay.
472
00:27:32,655 --> 00:27:34,656
Were you able to find
anything out about them or...
473
00:27:34,657 --> 00:27:36,527
- Nothing. I looked.
- Nothing.
474
00:27:36,528 --> 00:27:38,894
I can't even find any
symbols that would match that.
475
00:27:38,895 --> 00:27:40,026
Wow.
476
00:27:40,027 --> 00:27:42,465
Well, Aimee, that's gonna
be something to check into
477
00:27:42,466 --> 00:27:45,099
to see if we can find out
what any of that represents.
478
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:47,872
I definitely would say
that there's a bone here.
479
00:27:47,873 --> 00:27:49,608
I doubt that's human.
480
00:27:49,609 --> 00:27:51,497
That makes me feel better.
481
00:27:51,498 --> 00:27:53,440
All right, well we're
gonna get the team in here.
482
00:27:53,441 --> 00:27:55,331
We'll be investigating
for a couple of nights
483
00:27:55,332 --> 00:27:57,202
and let's see what we
can find out for ya.
484
00:27:57,203 --> 00:27:58,269
Thank you so much, John.
485
00:27:58,270 --> 00:28:00,830
We want you to feel comfortable
in your home with your children.
486
00:28:00,831 --> 00:28:03,171
I do, too.
487
00:28:08,748 --> 00:28:12,898
For tonight's investigation, Jess and I are
gonna be getting down into that basement,
488
00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:15,153
where several items have been found.
489
00:28:15,154 --> 00:28:16,354
All right.
490
00:28:16,355 --> 00:28:19,036
I'm gonna have Chris and
Brian on the main floor,
491
00:28:19,037 --> 00:28:21,827
especially in that hallway
where there's reported footsteps.
492
00:28:21,828 --> 00:28:23,038
What have we got here?
493
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,998
Now, the client's reported
hearing bare feet on the floor.
494
00:28:25,999 --> 00:28:28,990
This is just regular paper...
495
00:28:28,991 --> 00:28:33,038
But on it I sprayed a layer
of thermo-chromatic paint.
496
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:38,337
At 86 degrees, if whatever is walking
through this hallway has heat to it.
497
00:28:38,338 --> 00:28:41,398
This should catch it.
498
00:28:42,248 --> 00:28:45,150
- As long as it's 86 degrees or hotter.
- Yeah, I see that.
499
00:28:45,151 --> 00:28:47,719
Let me just make sure.
500
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,821
Do my shoes set it off? No.
501
00:28:49,822 --> 00:28:51,340
My footsteps don't do it.
502
00:28:51,341 --> 00:28:54,092
It's gotta be 86
degrees or it's a no go.
503
00:28:54,093 --> 00:28:55,085
All right.
504
00:28:55,086 --> 00:28:57,058
All right now that this
is down let's get the rest
505
00:28:57,059 --> 00:28:58,860
of the equipment, we're
good to go lights out.
506
00:28:58,861 --> 00:29:03,301
- Yeah, let's get into it.
- All right.
507
00:29:05,137 --> 00:29:07,606
Now what's the deal with
all these farm tools?
508
00:29:07,607 --> 00:29:10,267
It's a hobby they like, I guess,
treasure hunting, if you will.
509
00:29:10,268 --> 00:29:16,168
But this shovel is original to
the property, they got it here.
510
00:29:16,282 --> 00:29:19,084
I'm not getting any readings.
511
00:29:19,085 --> 00:29:23,834
All right, you know what? Grab the shovel.
Let's bring it to the middle of the room.
512
00:29:23,835 --> 00:29:27,926
And let's just do a little
E.V.P. Session around it.
513
00:29:27,927 --> 00:29:29,595
Recording.
514
00:29:29,596 --> 00:29:35,476
Are you the one that they hear
running throughout the house?
515
00:29:39,606 --> 00:29:41,539
No way.
516
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:42,975
Did you cause that?
517
00:29:42,976 --> 00:29:45,550
Nope. There's no remote.
I haven't been near it.
518
00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:49,091
You've gotta be kidding me.
519
00:29:49,348 --> 00:29:52,117
They haven't reported any electrical
disturbances in here, right?
520
00:29:52,118 --> 00:29:53,885
Well, they have.
521
00:29:53,886 --> 00:29:56,888
I just don't know if it
really pertains to the TV.
522
00:29:56,889 --> 00:29:59,958
Is there a power switch over there?
523
00:29:59,959 --> 00:30:02,719
Oh, there we go.
524
00:30:03,229 --> 00:30:06,169
Okay, that's weird.
525
00:30:07,533 --> 00:30:12,504
Jess, I went ahead all the way towards the
back here, I wanna show you a few items.
526
00:30:12,505 --> 00:30:17,065
Elizabeth found these
things in the walls.
527
00:30:17,677 --> 00:30:21,046
Definitely getting some
energy off of these items.
528
00:30:21,047 --> 00:30:25,450
Did she say where in the wall
she's pulling this stuff out of?
529
00:30:25,451 --> 00:30:29,351
Like these holes like right here?
530
00:30:29,555 --> 00:30:31,556
Put the light in there. Let's see.
531
00:30:31,557 --> 00:30:35,451
These look kinda loose.
Like what about this one?
532
00:30:35,452 --> 00:30:38,496
- Oh, come on.
- That's is loose.
533
00:30:38,497 --> 00:30:42,701
- What a second. Let's see.
- You're making me nervous.
534
00:30:42,702 --> 00:30:44,970
Oh my gosh!
535
00:30:44,971 --> 00:30:47,305
What's this?
536
00:30:47,306 --> 00:30:50,308
Wait, John, this isn't a rock.
537
00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:53,178
This is the same thing as this.
538
00:30:53,179 --> 00:30:57,783
- It's another one.
- Oh yeah, look at that.
539
00:30:57,784 --> 00:30:59,985
- It's the same thing!
- Wow.
540
00:30:59,986 --> 00:31:01,286
What the hell are these things?
541
00:31:01,287 --> 00:31:03,467
I don't know, but I'll
tell you one thing,
542
00:31:03,468 --> 00:31:08,268
something's trying to
tell us something here.
543
00:31:08,728 --> 00:31:14,399
Sword and knife collecting, yet
another one of their hobbies.
544
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,602
I'm not getting anything.
545
00:31:17,603 --> 00:31:22,808
What about this one? It
looks like a ceremonial sword.
546
00:31:22,809 --> 00:31:26,469
Is this of any value to you?
547
00:31:26,612 --> 00:31:29,432
Do you want this?
548
00:31:29,682 --> 00:31:31,817
Do you hear anything?
549
00:31:31,818 --> 00:31:35,798
- No, but come take a look at this.
- Is there something there?
550
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:37,722
Yeah, you put the thermal
over there, didn't you?
551
00:31:37,723 --> 00:31:40,603
- Yeah.
- Grab it.
552
00:31:42,161 --> 00:31:44,921
What do you see?
553
00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:49,913
What the hell is that?
554
00:31:55,908 --> 00:31:57,709
- Whoa!
- What?
555
00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:00,645
- Dude, they're [Bleep] moving!
- Are you kidding me?
556
00:32:00,646 --> 00:32:03,226
What the hell?
557
00:32:06,726 --> 00:32:09,306
What the hell?
558
00:32:13,023 --> 00:32:14,757
- Whoa!
- What?
559
00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:17,637
- Dude, they're [Bleep] moving.
- Are you kidding me?
560
00:32:17,638 --> 00:32:19,328
What the hell?
561
00:32:19,329 --> 00:32:22,569
Now pan back over here.
562
00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:26,903
- You're recording this, right?
- Yeah.
563
00:32:26,904 --> 00:32:31,107
- This is big. We gotta show your dad this.
- All right.
564
00:32:31,108 --> 00:32:33,686
- John, you've got to see this.
- Okay.
565
00:32:33,687 --> 00:32:38,781
It started out with two sets
just standing there, but now look.
566
00:32:38,782 --> 00:32:42,157
- Yeah, I see that.
- It appears to be walking down the hall.
567
00:32:42,158 --> 00:32:46,017
Okay, you had the activity, there's
reports of it in the hallway, and
568
00:32:46,018 --> 00:32:50,459
she found another piece of one
of those medallion-looking things.
569
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:51,782
Pulled it right out of the wall.
570
00:32:51,783 --> 00:32:55,064
We got quite a bit that's been going on
here, let's wrap up for tonight, all right?
571
00:32:55,065 --> 00:32:57,705
- Okay.
- Okay.
572
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:03,502
During last night's investigation,
573
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:06,542
Chris and Brian got some pretty
incredible thermal evidence.
574
00:33:06,543 --> 00:33:10,062
So Jason and I are headed to the library
to see if we can find any usual deaths,
575
00:33:10,063 --> 00:33:13,382
that may have taken place
around the house or in the house.
576
00:33:13,383 --> 00:33:14,884
What did you find?
577
00:33:14,885 --> 00:33:19,055
It's a death certificate of a
young boy who died in the area.
578
00:33:19,056 --> 00:33:20,089
Okay.
579
00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:23,692
If you look at the name
on it, it's Arthur Albee.
580
00:33:23,693 --> 00:33:26,262
He died when he was seven years old.
581
00:33:26,263 --> 00:33:31,834
So I was able to find an article and he
was sitting on a bridge with his sister.
582
00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:36,335
He accidentally fell
over and he drowned.
583
00:33:37,007 --> 00:33:39,609
So, this is a map of the area here,
584
00:33:39,610 --> 00:33:42,051
and this is actually where
Elizabeth's house is now.
585
00:33:42,052 --> 00:33:44,241
- Okay.
- And if you look...
586
00:33:44,242 --> 00:33:46,260
There's a little pond
here and there's all these
587
00:33:46,261 --> 00:33:48,550
little creeks and rivers
that run through the area.
588
00:33:48,551 --> 00:33:50,787
So, it was an untimely tragic death.
589
00:33:50,788 --> 00:33:56,428
That is interesting that he
died in such close proximity.
590
00:33:57,494 --> 00:34:01,329
Learning about the little boy who
passed away may be significant,
591
00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:04,066
but we also still have these pendants.
592
00:34:04,067 --> 00:34:06,620
I'm not sure yet if there
is a connection here,
593
00:34:06,621 --> 00:34:10,472
but hopefully we can find out tonight.
594
00:34:10,473 --> 00:34:14,708
Jason and I will
investigate the basement.
595
00:34:14,709 --> 00:34:18,242
While Jess, Brian, and
Chris set up an experiment
596
00:34:18,243 --> 00:34:23,103
involving video feedback
on the television set.
597
00:34:31,361 --> 00:34:34,030
All right, guys, this
is the crash course.
598
00:34:34,031 --> 00:34:38,000
Back in the day when we used to
do this, was with the old tube TVs.
599
00:34:38,001 --> 00:34:41,017
Because the television kept
turning on last night by itself,
600
00:34:41,018 --> 00:34:45,374
I figured now is the best time to employ
something called the video feedback loop.
601
00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:48,577
I'll be setting up a camera
aimed at the television.
602
00:34:48,578 --> 00:34:50,718
It's just gonna be
recording what it sees,
603
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,016
looping back on itself
over and over into infinity.
604
00:34:54,017 --> 00:34:56,752
All right, you see that? It's
getting that infinity effect.
605
00:34:56,753 --> 00:34:58,328
- Wow.
- Weird.
606
00:34:58,329 --> 00:35:01,298
The theory is that spirits
can manipulate the pixels,
607
00:35:01,299 --> 00:35:04,126
to show themselves through the feedback.
608
00:35:04,127 --> 00:35:06,362
I'm gonna go ahead and
start with some questions.
609
00:35:06,363 --> 00:35:10,399
Yeah. Got my recorder here just in case.
610
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,300
Is there someone here that's trying
to make contact, trying to reach out?
611
00:35:18,876 --> 00:35:24,156
Were you the one that
turned on the TV last night?
612
00:35:27,029 --> 00:35:31,709
Do you have a message
for the home owners?
613
00:35:33,964 --> 00:35:37,762
Okay, guys, we're gonna have to
go through this frame by frame.
614
00:35:37,763 --> 00:35:39,540
While you guys listen to audio,
615
00:35:39,541 --> 00:35:41,928
I'll load this on the computer
and see if anything came up.
616
00:35:41,929 --> 00:35:44,209
All right.
617
00:35:44,803 --> 00:35:47,238
These are some of the things
that got pulled out of the wall.
618
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,099
Wow.
619
00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:52,009
See if we get any readings
off any of these other...
620
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:53,970
- We weren't getting anything.
- Yesterday either?
621
00:35:53,971 --> 00:35:55,752
- No, nothing.
- Okay.
622
00:35:55,753 --> 00:35:57,403
Well, you wanna do an
E.V.P. Session or...
623
00:35:57,404 --> 00:36:00,151
Yeah. I'm very curious.
624
00:36:00,152 --> 00:36:03,392
Did this belong to you?
625
00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:11,573
Does this mean anything to you?
626
00:36:14,733 --> 00:36:19,413
Is there something
that you're looking for?
627
00:36:21,506 --> 00:36:26,577
- You wanna do a playback?
- Yeah, let's see, dude.
628
00:36:26,578 --> 00:36:29,818
Did this belong to you?
629
00:36:31,583 --> 00:36:35,363
Does this mean anything to you?
630
00:36:36,054 --> 00:36:38,256
[Whispering]
631
00:36:38,257 --> 00:36:39,797
Whoa.
632
00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:44,178
Yeah, but what's it saying? I can't...
633
00:36:45,363 --> 00:36:49,143
Does this mean anything to you?
634
00:36:49,668 --> 00:36:51,769
[Whispering]
635
00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:53,636
Huckle?
636
00:36:53,637 --> 00:36:54,835
Huckles?
637
00:36:54,836 --> 00:36:56,516
_.
638
00:36:58,210 --> 00:36:59,707
Do you have any idea what that means?
639
00:36:59,708 --> 00:37:02,830
I don't know, but we're gonna have to
find out if it does mean anything at all.
640
00:37:02,831 --> 00:37:05,711
That's weird, man.
641
00:37:05,984 --> 00:37:11,884
Is there someone here that's trying
to make contact, trying to reach out?
642
00:37:14,026 --> 00:37:19,306
Were you the one that
turned on the TV last night?
643
00:37:20,598 --> 00:37:25,278
Do you have a message
for the home owners?
644
00:37:30,503 --> 00:37:31,530
Nothing.
645
00:37:31,531 --> 00:37:34,979
Yeah, it didn't seem like
we were getting that much.
646
00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:38,017
- Hey, buddy, you getting anything?
- Hey I'm glad you're here.
647
00:37:38,018 --> 00:37:39,984
Come look at this.
648
00:37:39,985 --> 00:37:44,222
This was something that popped
out at me before as a little weird.
649
00:37:44,223 --> 00:37:45,923
It's kinda towards the end.
650
00:37:45,924 --> 00:37:49,160
Going forward. Go forward.
651
00:37:49,161 --> 00:37:54,832
All right, hang on a second.
Let me just go a little back.
652
00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:58,469
Okay, there's nothing and
then all of a sudden...
653
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:59,871
- Right there!
- That.
654
00:37:59,872 --> 00:38:04,012
- Are you seeing that?
- Oh my God!
655
00:38:10,404 --> 00:38:13,940
Okay, there's nothing and
then all of a sudden...
656
00:38:13,941 --> 00:38:15,341
- Right there!
- That.
657
00:38:15,342 --> 00:38:18,577
- Are you seeing that?
- Oh my God!
658
00:38:18,578 --> 00:38:19,913
Look at that.
659
00:38:19,914 --> 00:38:23,083
- Right there.
- There's lips, almost like a smile.
660
00:38:23,084 --> 00:38:26,681
The nose, the nostrils, up
to the eye, side of the face.
661
00:38:26,682 --> 00:38:29,422
It's only in that one frame.
662
00:38:29,423 --> 00:38:32,003
That's creepy.
663
00:38:32,526 --> 00:38:34,159
- Hey.
- Hey.
664
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,796
- What do you got?
- All right, watch this.
665
00:38:38,797 --> 00:38:40,717
Whoa.
666
00:38:40,999 --> 00:38:44,235
Wow, that looks like a little boy, dude.
667
00:38:44,236 --> 00:38:48,540
That's amazing. We've got an E.V.P.
what do you think it's actually saying?
668
00:38:48,541 --> 00:38:50,107
I think it says Huckle.
669
00:38:50,108 --> 00:38:52,381
And we got that right near
this little pendant thing,
670
00:38:52,382 --> 00:38:54,118
and now you're capturing a little boy.
671
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,519
I think the consensus is we're
dealing with a child spirit here.
672
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,718
Definitely need to get this to
somebody else to get more information.
673
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,421
All right, guys, good
work. Let's wrap up.
674
00:39:03,422 --> 00:39:05,822
You got it.
675
00:39:08,994 --> 00:39:12,429
We've collected a lot of evidence
during this investigation.
676
00:39:12,430 --> 00:39:14,968
And I'm beginning to
wonder if these pendants
677
00:39:14,969 --> 00:39:18,136
somehow relate to what's
been happening here.
678
00:39:18,137 --> 00:39:20,371
So, I'm meeting with Corinna Taylor.
679
00:39:20,372 --> 00:39:23,800
She's an antiques dealer
who specializes in ceramics.
680
00:39:23,801 --> 00:39:25,210
Ooh!
681
00:39:25,211 --> 00:39:27,745
Well, this is very interesting.
682
00:39:27,746 --> 00:39:30,715
This is actually made by a child.
683
00:39:30,716 --> 00:39:31,767
Okay.
684
00:39:31,768 --> 00:39:36,425
Children used to take clay
and press burlap into the clay.
685
00:39:36,426 --> 00:39:37,203
Okay.
686
00:39:37,204 --> 00:39:40,758
And what they would do is they would
play a game called Hide the Key.
687
00:39:40,759 --> 00:39:42,887
It's also called Hide
the Thimble sometimes.
688
00:39:42,888 --> 00:39:44,768
- Okay.
- Because they would hide the objects.
689
00:39:44,769 --> 00:39:47,965
- All right.
- And then you'd have to find the object.
690
00:39:47,966 --> 00:39:51,469
When they found it, they
would yell, Huckle buckle.
691
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:53,138
Or, Huckle Bean Stock.
692
00:39:53,139 --> 00:39:55,212
- Huckle buckle, huh?
- Huckle buckle.
693
00:39:55,213 --> 00:39:56,741
Okay.
694
00:39:56,742 --> 00:39:58,576
What time framing would
you say this would be?
695
00:39:58,577 --> 00:40:03,114
I would say probably late
1800s, 1890, somewhere in there.
696
00:40:03,115 --> 00:40:06,004
All right, that would definitely
make a lot of sense to me.
697
00:40:06,005 --> 00:40:07,367
- Thank you.
- You're very welcome.
698
00:40:07,368 --> 00:40:10,815
If this pendant is a child's
toy and it was handmade,
699
00:40:10,816 --> 00:40:12,990
I'm wondering if it's actually tying in.
700
00:40:12,991 --> 00:40:15,722
I'm not quite sure, but
I definitely feel I have
701
00:40:15,723 --> 00:40:20,283
some really good
information for Elizabeth.
702
00:40:23,101 --> 00:40:24,835
Well, thank you for inviting us in.
703
00:40:24,836 --> 00:40:27,838
We conducted quite a few
different experiments.
704
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:30,203
The one piece of footage
I'd like to show ya,
705
00:40:30,204 --> 00:40:36,104
is something we had captured with the
thermal imager right here in the hallways.
706
00:40:38,016 --> 00:40:41,419
As you can see, several
little footprints.
707
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:43,854
- Okay.
- Oh my God.
708
00:40:43,855 --> 00:40:47,091
But the next one is
even more compelling.
709
00:40:47,092 --> 00:40:50,123
We took a camera and we set
up in front of the TV set,
710
00:40:50,124 --> 00:40:54,199
and we were able to capture something.
711
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,968
And I want you to take a
close look and you'll see it.
712
00:40:57,969 --> 00:40:59,249
Oh my God!
713
00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:01,206
No! Oh my God!
714
00:41:01,207 --> 00:41:04,147
That was incredible.
715
00:41:04,276 --> 00:41:06,544
I wasn't able to find
any deaths in the house.
716
00:41:06,545 --> 00:41:11,744
However, I was able to find the death
of the seven-year-old boy in the area.
717
00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:14,018
And his name was Arthur Albee.
718
00:41:14,019 --> 00:41:16,020
- Drowning.
- Mm hmm.
719
00:41:16,021 --> 00:41:18,856
And this is a map of the
area during that time.
720
00:41:18,857 --> 00:41:22,993
This is the pond where he drowned and
it's only 100 yards from your house.
721
00:41:22,994 --> 00:41:24,213
Oh.
722
00:41:24,214 --> 00:41:26,911
As we were going through
and investigating everything,
723
00:41:26,912 --> 00:41:29,900
we ended up pulling out something else.
724
00:41:29,901 --> 00:41:31,669
What?
725
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:35,248
Kids would play a game
called Huckle Bean Stock.
726
00:41:35,249 --> 00:41:39,265
And they would make these
things and they would hide them,
727
00:41:39,266 --> 00:41:42,546
all over in different locations.
728
00:41:42,547 --> 00:41:45,448
So, we're never gonna
be 100 percent sure,
729
00:41:45,449 --> 00:41:48,451
but we got this possibility
this little boy drowned.
730
00:41:48,452 --> 00:41:50,487
And the game was never completed.
731
00:41:50,488 --> 00:41:52,408
Okay.
732
00:41:52,523 --> 00:41:55,759
Do I feel that you had a
child spirit here in the house?
733
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,327
Yes.
734
00:41:57,328 --> 00:42:00,846
I don't even know what to think.
I'm happy that you found...
735
00:42:00,847 --> 00:42:04,301
What was going on. It just makes me sad.
736
00:42:04,302 --> 00:42:06,822
It hits home.
737
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,973
I don't know what to think.
738
00:42:09,974 --> 00:42:12,419
So, my recommendation
is it'll be removed,
739
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:15,076
and put down into the
museum down in Connecticut.
740
00:42:15,077 --> 00:42:17,414
And there will be a binding over it.
741
00:42:17,415 --> 00:42:20,818
- I think we should do that.
- If we could help that boy out...
742
00:42:20,819 --> 00:42:23,721
That's gonna help him cross over.
743
00:42:23,722 --> 00:42:26,602
- I agree.
- Okay.
744
00:42:27,058 --> 00:42:30,694
The innocence of childhood
often fades with age.
745
00:42:30,695 --> 00:42:33,897
But if Arthur's life
was tragically cut short,
746
00:42:33,898 --> 00:42:39,336
this little boy's spirit may not
understand that playtime is over.
747
00:42:39,337 --> 00:42:41,404
By binding the pendant with salt,
748
00:42:41,405 --> 00:42:46,276
I'm hoping this child can finally
finish the game, he started long ago.
749
00:42:46,277 --> 00:42:48,751
And be at peace.
750
00:42:48,752 --> 00:42:54,652
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