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Previously on "in Treatment"...
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A liar shouldn't expect
their word to be worth anything.
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I'm gonna start some real lying
to teach you a lesson.
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You said that when you saw Jake
for the first time,
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- you thought he was sexy as hell.
- He was beautiful.
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Amy has a strong need to have a career.
That seems to make you jealous.
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That in turn makes Amy secretive
and she lies.
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- Stop calling me a liar!
- Stop lying!
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- Stop it!
- You're a fucking liar...
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- God damn it! Stop it!
- You are a fucking liar!
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You're a quitter. He's a winner.
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If you had a quarter of Ben's strength
I'd be interested in you too.
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You psychopath.
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Have you ever recorded
your arguments with her before?
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I just want to understand
what's happening to us.
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What's up?
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You fall asleep?
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- How long have you been here?
- Five minutes.
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- Should we go in?
- There's someone in there.
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Can I sit?
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What time is it?
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Five to.
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Well...
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Well, what?
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Are you gonna be like this
in there too?
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Like what?
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I don't know.
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Season 1, Episode 24.
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Week 4, Session 4.
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Sync by: michvanilly, Gaillots, Anyone.
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So how are you both?
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Fine.
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Fantastic.
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Before we begin,
I want to talk about last week.
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I can tolerate
yelling and outbursts
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that result from your arguments
but I will not,
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absolutely not,
tolerate any physical violence.
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- Do you understand that?
- It's OK. We separated a week ago.
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Separated.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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So it's a little late
to start setting up ground rules.
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- Hope you don't feel like an idiot.
- That's what you would want, I suppose.
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Why would I wanna make you look
like an idiot?
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- Because it makes you feel good.
- Wait, did you hear what I just said?
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Yes. You said that you'd been
separated for a week.
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- Would you like to tell me why?
- He threatened to kill me.
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You're smiling.
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You're taking on
a huge responsibility.
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- What responsibility?
- You act like you aren't concerned.
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You don't think he's capable
of doing it?
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- He could be perfectly capable of it.
- Then why are you smiling?
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I've had patients over the years
who've had their lives threatened.
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You just brought this up
like it was nothing.
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- Well, I'm not into this.
- What's the matter?
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Can't you hear
how he's talking to us?
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What the hell is wrong with you?
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- Why are you being so hostile?
- That's what it feels like to you?
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Very much so.
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- OK.
- What?
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I have to put up with you both
being hostile to each other and to me
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- constantly.
- That's why we pay you.
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The money isn't really important to me.
I have other patients.
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I don't understand. You say
you don't wanna treat us anymore?
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Do I want to treat you?
That's a tough one, actually.
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This is what therapy would be like
if nobody respected boundaries.
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It is chaotic, it is disrespectful
and it's unproductive.
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Do you understand that?
Is that what you want?
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Can't even get couples therapy right.
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Our own therapist doesn't want
to treat us anymore.
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Why don't you just tell me what happened
after the session last week?
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I took Lenny
and went to my mother's,
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and then Jake showed up on Saturday
and wanted to take Lenny home.
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- Before they poisoned him with sugar.
- Please.
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You should see the crap
they force-feed him.
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Don't do that. Anyway,
we went to the bedroom to talk,
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one thing led to another
and we ended up having sex.
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How did one thing and another
lead to the sex?
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- You want some details, bro?
- Whatever you'd like to tell me.
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Things that dull at home?
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I'm interested in your sex
because it's part
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of your dialogue as a couple.
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So how did it go from sex
to a murder threat?
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He had just finished coming.
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He was still lying on top of me.
He was still inside me,
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and he whispered in my ear
that if I left him, he'd kill me.
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He didn't even bother pulling out.
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I was disgusted.
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That's an unusual reaction
to somebody threatening to kill you.
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- What was it that disgusted you?
- Let me tell you what disgusts me.
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Watching her and her mother
shove junk food down my son's throat.
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It's a miracle
the kid doesn't shit Twinkies.
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- What does Lenny have to do with this?
- No, what you do to him disgusts me.
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- He's 9 and he weighs 100 pounds.
- He doesn't weigh 100 pounds.
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So, is Lenny overweight?
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He's a child.
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He'll grow out of it
when he hits puberty. I was the same.
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You were overweight?
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My dirty little secret.
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- She had issues with food.
- I was thin by the time we got married.
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Who cares what I weighed
when I was 5?
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- You never mentioned that before.
- We never spoke about it
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'cause it's irrelevant in this context.
This is couple's therapy, right?
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- When did you lose the weight?
- In my teens. Just melted off.
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So does it bother you
that Lenny is overweight?
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Please stop saying that.
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I don't like referring to him that way.
He has a little baby fat,
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- he'll lose it.
- 30 pounds of it.
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Her mother lets him eat candy,
drink soda, play Xbox...
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- He doesn't want him to see my mother.
- He'd be better off on the streets.
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- He hasn't got the genes of an athlete.
- I saw it coming.
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It's my fault he's fat.
I passed down shitty genes.
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We can't talk about Lenny
without me being blamed
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for the terrible genes I gave him.
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So the fact that you were overweight,
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that does come up
in arguments between you?
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Don't you think
it's a relevant subject for therapy?
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No, I don't understand
why we're going in this direction.
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Yes, he wants to talk about
our fat little boy.
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Why don't we talk about
how Jake's screwing Lenny up?
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She means
I'm screwing him up socially.
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- Lenny hits.
- Because he gets laughed at
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for being fat.
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No, Lenny hits
because Jake teaches him to hit.
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He gets bullied at school,
so I taught him to defend himself.
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It's normal. Besides, you were the one
doing the hitting last week.
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You convinced Paul
it's gonna escalate to murder.
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You're the one
planning to kill me, remember?
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I would gladly
but I'd feel bad for Paul.
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- We already ruined his couch once.
- Right.
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Can you see the pattern here?
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What you do to each other?
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You take the most sensitive subjects,
you just toss them away carelessly.
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Sometimes you laugh,
sometimes it hurts you.
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But don't you feel that it makes it
much more difficult to get
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to the bottom of
your real feelings?
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You think I find it funny
that he's threatening me?
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Do you mean it
when you say these things?
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- What you gonna do? Call the police?
- Possibly.
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- Aren't there laws against that?
- Against threatening to kill somebody?
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No, laws against telling other people
what your patients tell you.
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They don't apply to serious crimes.
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Just letting you know.
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But at least you are calling
yourself a patient.
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- That's progress, Jake.
- So fucking condescending.
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Somebody should really
teach you a lesson.
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What is that, another threat?
So many threats flying around the place,
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- I'm having trouble keeping up.
- What's going on with you today?
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I'm trying to get you guys to listen,
really listen, to what you're saying.
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Let me ask you something. Has Jake
threatened you before, physically?
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I didn't really mean
I'd kill her, OK?
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- It just came out.
- How did you put it, exactly?
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He said:
"If you leave me, I'll kill you."
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- Did you mean that?
- Of course not.
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I'm not gonna fucking kill her.
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This week.
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What's that supposed to mean?
What are you trying to say?
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And you said you weren't afraid, Amy,
but you felt disgusted.
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- Yes.
- What does that mean, "disgusted"?
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What do you think, Paul?
Tell me what you think.
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He'd just come inside me and then
said that he wanted to kill me.
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What do you think
disgusted me about that?
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Jake, do you understand the severity
of what you said, that threat?
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You realize she could get a restraining
order against you, don't you?
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I think you understand
what I'm talking about.
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"If you leave me,
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"I'll kill you."
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We've been concentrating
on the 2nd part of that sentence,
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but let's look at the first part of it.
"If you leave me."
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That says to me that you're afraid.
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You're afraid of what will happen to
you if Amy leaves.
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The fear that you would cease
to exist maybe.
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That you...
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would die.
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Let's just leave that for a moment.
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I'd like to go back to something
that we talked about earlier on.
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Would you like to talk about
your memories of being a child?
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Being overweight?
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I don't think about that.
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I live my life moving forward.
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And does that need to be analyzed?
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Would you say that you were
a confident child?
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Not really.
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I would say I was overweight and shy
but I grew out of it and I'm fine.
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Actually, I'm more than fine
and Lenny will be fine too.
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Last week you said
Jake and his friends were pathetic.
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Yes, they are that.
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Maybe it's convenient for you
to think of Jake as being
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pathetic, as you say,
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being an underachiever.
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Why?
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Perhaps because it helps you avoid
seeing your own insecurities.
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I think that when he threatened you
in bed, he revealed how
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desperately he needed you,
although he did it in a very scary way.
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But that was Jake
at his most vulnerable...
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Which I think you associate with him
being pathetic.
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And you don't want that.
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So you're saying
that I'm with an underachiever
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- because I lack self-esteem?
- Perhaps that's a way for you to avoid
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dealing with negative feelings
about yourself.
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I want a divorce.
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Fine. I'm taking Lenny with me.
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You think I'm just gonna let him
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go with you so you can turn him
into some fat-ass couch potato
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- because you wanna make a change?
- I don't want to make a change.
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I want my life. Lenny needs me.
He should be with me.
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He needs me too.
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Fuck, Amy, what do you want from me?
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What do you want from me?
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Nothing.
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Let's just try and do this nicely,
Jake, please.
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What the fuck's so nice about it?
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I happen to know this couple
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who went to therapy after they'd already
decided to get divorced,
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and they made a decision in the end
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to stay together.
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That's not gonna be the case here.
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The only reason I mention it
is because I want you to know
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that even when divorce becomes
a possibility, it isn't always...
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so final.
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- Are you trying to change our minds?
- Your mind.
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This particular couple had problems.
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They couldn't even hold
a civil conversation with each other.
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- They slept in separate bedrooms...
- Why?
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- There'd been an affair
- Who cheated?
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That's not really the point.
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There's been no infidelity
in our relationship.
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I'm not inferring that, Amy.
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I guess what I'm trying to say
is that I know what it's like.
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You know, sometimes people have
to get to this precipice
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to understand what they really mean
to each other.
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I can't do this anymore.
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Don't you think there are still some
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very positive aspects
to your relationship?
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Like what?
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The murder threats, the suspicion,
the recordings, the stakeouts, what?
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I see it in the way that you look
at each other sometimes,
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The way you make each other laugh.
And you've...
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You've been working
on your relationship pretty steadily
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by coming here every week.
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Are you cheating on me?
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So why did Paul just tell us
about that other couple then?
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- Was that story about you?
- No...
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Of course it was.
That's not the point.
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She told you she was cheating
or not?
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- I must hear everything, remember?
- I'm not cheating.
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Neither of you is opening up here.
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You're both too busy attacking
each other. I want you to listen.
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I want each of you to examine
your own culpability here,
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not continuously looking
for what's wrong with the other person.
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- And not to be so on guard all the...
- On guard?
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Are we playing poker or something?
I come here to save my marriage
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- and you tell me she's has an affair?
- He never said that.
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- So you are here to save your marriage.
- No, because I got a thing for you.
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You're here to save your marriage,
you just said it. Now say it to Amy.
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Jake, look at your wife
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and tell her.
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Jake, we're constantly fighting.
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We'll stay together
and then we won't fight.
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If we stay together, we won't be
able to stop. Even Paul said so.
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What was all this therapy for?
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I don't know what to do.
Paul, what am I supposed to do?
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Talk to your wife. Say it to Amy.
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- Amy, I want to tell you something.
- Jake, stop, please.
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Listen to me,
I wanna tell you something.
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I don't want you to leave me.
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I don't want to lose you.
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I don't want you to leave me.
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I haven't slept in, like, a week.
I can't sleep, I can't eat.
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I don't know what to do.
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But I really...
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I don't want you to leave me.
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Please don't leave me.
Please don't fucking leave me.
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Please don't leave me.