1 00:00:01,185 --> 00:00:03,135 Previously, on In Treatment... 2 00:00:04,093 --> 00:00:07,044 Teachers marry students. It's not a big deal. 3 00:00:07,214 --> 00:00:09,087 I mean, is it really wrong? 4 00:00:09,371 --> 00:00:11,387 Let's say I stopped Laura's therapy. 5 00:00:11,557 --> 00:00:14,341 Surely in a year, 18 months, when it's cooled off... 6 00:00:14,603 --> 00:00:16,176 There's no cooling-off period. 7 00:00:16,438 --> 00:00:18,596 That's some bullshit some lawyer came up with. 8 00:00:18,857 --> 00:00:21,933 No, it's not a law. It's beyond a code of ethics. 9 00:00:22,193 --> 00:00:24,268 It's something you carry inside you. 10 00:00:24,530 --> 00:00:26,593 A lot of people would disagree with this. 11 00:00:26,763 --> 00:00:28,019 Then go to them. 12 00:00:28,623 --> 00:00:31,673 It's really tough when I'm alone with her, you know, 13 00:00:32,132 --> 00:00:33,736 and she's asking me: 14 00:00:34,395 --> 00:00:37,676 "Please, just be honest. Please, tell me how you feel." 15 00:00:39,999 --> 00:00:41,049 And I can't. 16 00:00:44,373 --> 00:00:45,889 You need to say it. 17 00:00:46,436 --> 00:00:47,565 I love her. 18 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:21,401 Season 1, episode 25 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,533 Subtitles: Anyone, Coffee, Tagne 20 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:41,549 Come in, come in. 21 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,810 - Hi, Gina. - Kate, hello. 22 00:01:49,433 --> 00:01:51,576 - It's good to see you. - And you. 23 00:01:51,746 --> 00:01:53,796 You've been here before, right? 24 00:01:54,187 --> 00:01:55,537 It was years ago. 25 00:01:55,874 --> 00:01:56,874 Actually, 26 00:01:57,642 --> 00:01:59,321 it was the Argentineans, I think. 27 00:01:59,934 --> 00:02:01,584 An institute conference. 28 00:02:02,060 --> 00:02:04,110 Yes, that's right, that's right. 29 00:02:05,557 --> 00:02:07,914 - You look great. - Thank you. So do you. 30 00:02:12,914 --> 00:02:15,203 - This room's lovely. - Thank you. 31 00:02:15,373 --> 00:02:19,223 I did some rearranging, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am in it. 32 00:02:19,436 --> 00:02:22,825 I told myself I would write a few hours a day. 33 00:02:22,995 --> 00:02:24,513 Did Paul tell you I retired? 34 00:02:26,684 --> 00:02:28,334 No, Paul didn't tell me. 35 00:02:31,695 --> 00:02:35,233 - Writing... That's fantastic. - We'll see. 36 00:02:37,244 --> 00:02:40,888 Yeah, I mean, I've often thought that I might try my hand, but... 37 00:02:41,058 --> 00:02:42,608 I wouldn't ever dare. 38 00:02:46,808 --> 00:02:47,808 So... 39 00:02:49,935 --> 00:02:53,185 It's a little unusual to have ongoing sessions with Paul 40 00:02:53,355 --> 00:02:55,450 and then to see the both of you. 41 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:59,214 I thought it might be helpful if we all decided how to approach this. 42 00:02:59,476 --> 00:03:01,463 I think I told you when I called 43 00:03:01,633 --> 00:03:03,709 that this was Kate's suggestion. 44 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:05,102 You said that. 45 00:03:05,808 --> 00:03:08,557 If I were you, I wouldn't be so sure I'd agree to it. 46 00:03:08,934 --> 00:03:09,934 Why not? 47 00:03:10,988 --> 00:03:13,353 Well, we've blurred some lines here, you and I. 48 00:03:13,882 --> 00:03:15,272 That's true, we have. 49 00:03:16,432 --> 00:03:19,782 But I think we'll be okay if we set down some guidelines. 50 00:03:20,183 --> 00:03:22,516 I was thinking we could meet three times, 51 00:03:22,686 --> 00:03:26,136 re-evaluate and then decide where we want to go from there. 52 00:03:32,997 --> 00:03:35,347 Now what made you decide to come here? 53 00:03:40,121 --> 00:03:42,871 Paul, you said that it was Kate's suggestion, 54 00:03:43,121 --> 00:03:45,171 but you're going along with it. 55 00:03:45,810 --> 00:03:48,560 I think I told you about Kate going to Rome... 56 00:03:51,191 --> 00:03:52,518 And who she went with. 57 00:03:53,624 --> 00:03:55,671 She got back and... 58 00:03:56,433 --> 00:03:59,027 she said that it was over with that guy. 59 00:04:01,311 --> 00:04:04,829 I guess we both had the sense of: "So, what do we do now?" 60 00:04:05,536 --> 00:04:08,013 Kate did offer to talk about it and I couldn't. 61 00:04:08,183 --> 00:04:09,285 I was too... 62 00:04:09,545 --> 00:04:10,345 angry. 63 00:04:11,871 --> 00:04:13,621 I know in couples therapy 64 00:04:14,308 --> 00:04:17,700 you try not to blame each other and I'm always telling my patients that, 65 00:04:17,870 --> 00:04:21,520 you know, like it's the simplest thing. Now here I am and... 66 00:04:24,059 --> 00:04:25,609 I can't stop blaming. 67 00:04:26,681 --> 00:04:30,331 Intellectually, I get it, that I'm half of the equation, but... 68 00:04:31,806 --> 00:04:34,014 You said you couldn't talk to Kate, 69 00:04:34,184 --> 00:04:36,478 so she hasn't heard any of this, how you feel. 70 00:04:36,873 --> 00:04:39,423 Well, I think she knows that she hurt me. 71 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,560 Deeply... 72 00:04:42,563 --> 00:04:43,713 And that... 73 00:04:44,499 --> 00:04:45,849 That I hated her. 74 00:04:49,374 --> 00:04:50,931 Could you go into that? 75 00:04:51,101 --> 00:04:53,392 I hated you for thinking you were entitled to this, 76 00:04:53,562 --> 00:04:55,539 for implying that I brought it on myself. 77 00:04:55,801 --> 00:04:56,997 I couldn't shake it. 78 00:04:57,167 --> 00:05:00,174 Every minute, I'd get a wave of rage and loss. 79 00:05:00,848 --> 00:05:02,162 Why? Why loss? 80 00:05:03,183 --> 00:05:05,883 Because I really don't know if I can forgive her. 81 00:05:06,372 --> 00:05:08,451 I've seen couples come back from this, 82 00:05:08,621 --> 00:05:11,729 but right now, I'll be damned if I know how they did it. 83 00:05:11,899 --> 00:05:15,829 Anyway, she got back Tuesday and I said: "Well, should I move out?" 84 00:05:16,746 --> 00:05:19,552 She said that wasn't what she wanted and... 85 00:05:25,870 --> 00:05:26,904 You tell her. 86 00:05:30,433 --> 00:05:33,983 I just asked him why he couldn't talk to me about all of this, 87 00:05:34,153 --> 00:05:36,988 about, you know, everything we're going through. 88 00:05:37,317 --> 00:05:39,041 Can you answer that, Paul? 89 00:05:39,685 --> 00:05:41,372 I just said I couldn't. 90 00:05:42,715 --> 00:05:46,348 I tell patients that having someone is like mourning a death. 91 00:05:46,932 --> 00:05:49,844 Who you were as a couple, the image that you have of yourself... 92 00:05:50,105 --> 00:05:52,252 It is like losing a loved one. 93 00:05:54,650 --> 00:05:57,780 You keep telling us what you tell patients, 94 00:05:59,311 --> 00:06:01,761 but you're talking about your mourning, 95 00:06:02,123 --> 00:06:03,673 your rage, your loss. 96 00:06:04,810 --> 00:06:06,764 You're sounding very controlled. 97 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:10,386 What, you want me to throw something? Try to strangle her? 98 00:06:14,748 --> 00:06:16,498 I can barely look at her. 99 00:06:16,749 --> 00:06:17,749 I'm so... 100 00:06:20,249 --> 00:06:22,199 I feel like I'm falling apart. 101 00:06:25,710 --> 00:06:28,727 I should tell you this, and Kate already knows... 102 00:06:32,142 --> 00:06:34,227 I attacked a patient in therapy. 103 00:06:36,273 --> 00:06:37,266 The pilot. 104 00:06:38,693 --> 00:06:41,355 In the middle of therapy, I jumped him. I lost it. 105 00:06:41,525 --> 00:06:44,942 Suddenly, I was on top of him. I grabbed him. I almost... 106 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:47,440 I almost hit him. 107 00:06:49,775 --> 00:06:51,525 Scared the hell out of me. 108 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:54,116 Or both of us, I guess. 109 00:06:55,397 --> 00:06:58,955 Anyway, my first thought afterwards was that I was reacting... 110 00:06:59,215 --> 00:07:00,155 to Kate. 111 00:07:02,712 --> 00:07:04,947 She came home during the session, 112 00:07:05,117 --> 00:07:07,689 she knocked at the door, back from Rome. 113 00:07:09,838 --> 00:07:12,504 I heard her outside the office and then... 114 00:07:16,523 --> 00:07:17,523 What is it? 115 00:07:19,685 --> 00:07:22,895 I shouldn't discuss a patient with Kate here. 116 00:07:25,402 --> 00:07:28,252 You can't discuss a patient who's spying on me? 117 00:07:31,215 --> 00:07:32,881 He did all this... 118 00:07:33,471 --> 00:07:35,705 research about Kate and about... 119 00:07:36,965 --> 00:07:38,215 About my father. 120 00:07:38,385 --> 00:07:40,903 He knew that Kate was in Italy with... 121 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:44,553 With another man and he... 122 00:07:45,585 --> 00:07:48,795 - He threw it in my face. - How did he know that? 123 00:07:48,965 --> 00:07:51,541 He made calls. People that had recommended me to him. 124 00:07:51,711 --> 00:07:53,461 I don't know who they are. 125 00:07:53,895 --> 00:07:55,730 Anyway, that's not the point. 126 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:58,950 Instead of handling it properly, I jumped in and... 127 00:08:01,457 --> 00:08:05,453 I lay in bed that night thinking: "Do I take a month off? 128 00:08:05,782 --> 00:08:08,355 "Do I take three months off? Maybe I should take a year off. 129 00:08:08,525 --> 00:08:09,675 "Maybe I'm... 130 00:08:10,982 --> 00:08:13,163 "Maybe I'm... Maybe I'm all done." 131 00:08:15,655 --> 00:08:17,804 - And that's my fault? - What? 132 00:08:18,464 --> 00:08:21,114 Your creepy patient, he's my fault as well? 133 00:08:22,089 --> 00:08:24,939 Actually, it made me think how much I need you. 134 00:08:27,748 --> 00:08:29,961 - Do you? - Yeah, you, the kids, the house... 135 00:08:30,462 --> 00:08:33,102 I need that. I need that other place where I can... 136 00:08:33,272 --> 00:08:35,573 What? Hang on. That other place? 137 00:08:40,359 --> 00:08:43,291 I'm pretty sure we're supposed to be the place. 138 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:51,650 Sorry. How does this work? Do we take turns? 139 00:08:51,912 --> 00:08:55,096 - Is that how... - Whatever you're comfortable with. 140 00:08:59,588 --> 00:09:02,167 It's always been very difficult for me, 141 00:09:02,337 --> 00:09:04,587 trying to describe what I'm feeling. 142 00:09:10,777 --> 00:09:12,527 When you're having a baby, 143 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,563 Yeah? You're lying there 144 00:09:16,589 --> 00:09:18,439 in that hospital bed and... 145 00:09:19,838 --> 00:09:21,793 And you don't need... you don't want 146 00:09:21,963 --> 00:09:24,339 everything understood and shared 147 00:09:24,509 --> 00:09:26,441 and analyzed and discussed. 148 00:09:29,650 --> 00:09:32,567 All you want to know is that you're not alone 149 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:35,443 and that your husband's hand is right there. 150 00:09:38,153 --> 00:09:40,303 But try describing to your husband 151 00:09:41,169 --> 00:09:44,953 exactly what it feels like to have a child, it's just impossible. 152 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:47,689 A friend of mine once said, 153 00:09:48,277 --> 00:09:51,627 "Take an umbrella, shove it up his ass, open it and pull. 154 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:53,530 "Then he'll know." 155 00:09:54,975 --> 00:09:57,591 So someone sticking an umbrella up your ass is... 156 00:09:58,567 --> 00:10:00,261 What's the umbrella? 157 00:10:00,715 --> 00:10:02,365 Please don't analyze me. 158 00:10:02,793 --> 00:10:05,445 Well, it's quite an analogy. 159 00:10:06,649 --> 00:10:08,477 I'm not your patient. 160 00:10:08,647 --> 00:10:11,646 He doesn't get to interpret everything I say in here, does he? 161 00:10:13,261 --> 00:10:17,238 It's the same as when Paul's at home. He's not a psychotherapist here. 162 00:10:17,606 --> 00:10:20,726 He's a man dealing with a crisis in his marriage. 163 00:10:21,777 --> 00:10:24,354 He's not a therapist at home? 164 00:10:32,262 --> 00:10:33,970 Can you go on, Kate? 165 00:10:35,498 --> 00:10:38,835 When you told me about attacking your patient 166 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:42,678 I felt like that was for my benefit, 167 00:10:42,939 --> 00:10:46,044 that you just wanted to show me what I'd done to you 168 00:10:46,214 --> 00:10:49,164 by seeing Edward and how I'd ruined your life and, 169 00:10:50,026 --> 00:10:52,976 - well, your work. - You haven't ruined my life. 170 00:10:54,625 --> 00:10:56,688 You're the best thing in it. 171 00:10:59,041 --> 00:11:01,603 I felt like you were putting on a show. 172 00:11:03,213 --> 00:11:04,431 Christ. 173 00:11:07,526 --> 00:11:08,995 You know, I believed you 174 00:11:09,256 --> 00:11:12,905 when you told me that you wanted me to stop seeing Edward. I did. 175 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:15,543 But when you sit here right now 176 00:11:15,713 --> 00:11:18,778 and you tell me that I'm the best thing in your life... 177 00:11:20,281 --> 00:11:21,651 I don't believe that. 178 00:11:25,275 --> 00:11:27,354 And that makes me so sad. 179 00:11:30,898 --> 00:11:33,044 And the way you talk to me sometimes, 180 00:11:33,214 --> 00:11:36,468 I mean I will ask you outright: "Do you love me?" 181 00:11:37,654 --> 00:11:41,319 And you've said to me... You've looked at me and you've said, 182 00:11:41,950 --> 00:11:43,990 "Yes... for now." 183 00:11:44,251 --> 00:11:46,016 It's... It's a joke. 184 00:11:46,377 --> 00:11:49,051 Well, what the hell kind of a joke is that? 185 00:11:50,264 --> 00:11:52,872 Someone asks you if you love them, 186 00:11:53,276 --> 00:11:55,667 you don't think that they're feeling vulnerable? 187 00:11:55,837 --> 00:11:59,357 A little insecure, maybe? They need some reassurance? 188 00:11:59,527 --> 00:12:01,718 Everything we say has meaning. That's your line. 189 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,050 But we don't mean everything that we say. 190 00:12:04,312 --> 00:12:07,012 Which is it? That's pretty convenient for you, isn't it? 191 00:12:09,121 --> 00:12:10,890 We don't mean what we say, fine, 192 00:12:11,152 --> 00:12:13,802 'cause I don't believe a lot of what you say. 193 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:19,608 I mean, Gina just pointed it out. You said, "I'm hurt," 194 00:12:19,868 --> 00:12:23,194 but it sounded like you were reading something out of a psychology book. 195 00:12:24,715 --> 00:12:27,625 How do you need me? You don't need me. 196 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:29,964 I just don't believe that. 197 00:12:33,936 --> 00:12:37,125 You know, when Paul and I were first seeing each other... 198 00:12:40,158 --> 00:12:43,025 I couldn't get over how seriously he took me. 199 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,252 I'd never had that from anyone. 200 00:12:50,027 --> 00:12:52,916 Up until then, I'd always pretty much felt... 201 00:12:53,524 --> 00:12:54,524 invisible. 202 00:12:57,024 --> 00:12:59,285 And there was also... There was this... 203 00:12:59,455 --> 00:13:02,108 This exciting new idea 204 00:13:03,656 --> 00:13:06,795 that under everything people say there's another intention 205 00:13:06,965 --> 00:13:08,982 and that there's this hidden meaning, 206 00:13:09,152 --> 00:13:11,667 which just meant that everything had to be analyzed. 207 00:13:11,837 --> 00:13:14,969 So, everything I said took on this importance 208 00:13:15,718 --> 00:13:18,583 because he was working so hard to figure me out. 209 00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:25,410 And he was really the first person 210 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:27,682 who tried to understand me. And I... 211 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:37,712 Thank you. 212 00:13:41,964 --> 00:13:43,724 And I just remember feeling... 213 00:13:44,717 --> 00:13:47,201 very grateful to him for that. 214 00:13:48,779 --> 00:13:52,410 So it was quite a shock for me to realize that 215 00:13:52,670 --> 00:13:54,986 it wasn't about me. It had... 216 00:13:55,489 --> 00:13:58,217 fuck all to do with me, really. 217 00:13:58,654 --> 00:14:00,083 I mean, it was about him. 218 00:14:01,651 --> 00:14:04,201 Because you don't actually understand me. 219 00:14:04,683 --> 00:14:08,007 Understanding me is not about subtext. It's not about the subconscious. 220 00:14:08,269 --> 00:14:10,677 It's not about reading some kind of an X-ray. 221 00:14:11,282 --> 00:14:13,637 It's just so clinical. 222 00:14:16,152 --> 00:14:18,486 Actually, it's worse because you use it against me. 223 00:14:18,656 --> 00:14:21,336 You think you know what I mean before I know what I mean, 224 00:14:21,506 --> 00:14:23,399 and how am I supposed to argue with that? 225 00:14:24,059 --> 00:14:26,067 This is what I've gotten out of our marriage. 226 00:14:26,329 --> 00:14:28,362 I gotta think over things 10 different ways. 227 00:14:28,622 --> 00:14:30,889 I can't take anything at face value. 228 00:14:31,251 --> 00:14:33,199 Nothing is simple. Nothing is ever simple. 229 00:14:33,529 --> 00:14:36,379 I hate it. I hate that that's what I've become. 230 00:14:38,024 --> 00:14:40,039 Just the patient married to the doctor. 231 00:14:43,713 --> 00:14:47,398 For someone who is asking how this whole thing works, 232 00:14:48,465 --> 00:14:51,325 you're doing a blue-ribbon job. I gotta give you that. 233 00:14:54,779 --> 00:14:57,829 I didn't come here for you to grade my performance. 234 00:15:00,158 --> 00:15:03,893 Kate, can you explain to Paul why you were seeing Edward? 235 00:15:06,162 --> 00:15:07,692 I don't want to explain. 236 00:15:09,685 --> 00:15:11,612 No, this is exactly what I'm saying. 237 00:15:11,782 --> 00:15:14,246 Why does everything have to be explained? 238 00:15:14,416 --> 00:15:17,685 Sometimes I just don't know and sometimes I don't want to know. 239 00:15:24,857 --> 00:15:27,244 Fine. Initially, it was just 240 00:15:27,752 --> 00:15:30,051 excitement and adrenaline. 241 00:15:32,726 --> 00:15:35,500 And there was this possibility when I woke up in the morning 242 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:38,361 that I may do something that I hadn't planned 243 00:15:38,662 --> 00:15:40,850 or that I didn't even know I was capable of. 244 00:15:41,112 --> 00:15:43,452 And that's who I was before I met Paul. 245 00:15:44,698 --> 00:15:48,039 And, somewhere along the way, that part of me just... 246 00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:50,741 died or... I don't know... It was smothered. 247 00:15:53,414 --> 00:15:55,523 The point I'm trying to make 248 00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:57,996 is why can I not just trust myself 249 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:01,857 to be who I am and to just get on with it? 250 00:16:02,027 --> 00:16:04,371 Well, just because you don't look, 251 00:16:04,541 --> 00:16:06,695 it doesn't mean there's nothing underneath. 252 00:16:08,444 --> 00:16:10,274 That's very profound, I'm sure. 253 00:16:10,444 --> 00:16:13,925 - There's still a reason why you... - Would you please stop it? 254 00:16:14,187 --> 00:16:17,952 I do not want your intellectual interpretation of everything I say. 255 00:16:25,603 --> 00:16:27,753 I did it because I felt something. 256 00:16:29,976 --> 00:16:31,326 What did you feel? 257 00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:35,226 Wanted. 258 00:16:39,538 --> 00:16:42,935 I mean, do you want me to say that I want you? 259 00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:46,809 I do. I want you. That's why I'm here, so that you'll believe it. 260 00:16:48,431 --> 00:16:52,280 Paul, do you feel that you need a witness to verify your love for Kate? 261 00:16:53,667 --> 00:16:54,667 Thank you. 262 00:16:55,851 --> 00:16:59,001 Thank you. I'm sorry, but I just keep getting this... 263 00:17:00,412 --> 00:17:03,568 That image of Bill Clinton, that footage of him, 264 00:17:03,738 --> 00:17:05,516 standing in front of all those cameras 265 00:17:05,686 --> 00:17:08,057 and wagging his finger so adamantly, you know. 266 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:10,586 "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." 267 00:17:10,756 --> 00:17:12,552 Jeez, that's some comparison. 268 00:17:16,101 --> 00:17:20,055 You know, I can't assert anything strongly enough, because 269 00:17:20,225 --> 00:17:22,775 that would be a clear indication of my... 270 00:17:23,479 --> 00:17:26,372 insincerity but, on the other hand, if I don't state my feelings, 271 00:17:27,416 --> 00:17:29,808 - then that's something else. - Fair enough. 272 00:17:29,978 --> 00:17:32,428 Maybe there's nothing you can say to me. 273 00:17:33,789 --> 00:17:36,432 All I know is I have to feel it in my gut to believe it. 274 00:17:36,602 --> 00:17:38,509 - And you don't. - No, I don't. 275 00:17:42,666 --> 00:17:44,031 Do you remember? 276 00:17:45,351 --> 00:17:47,894 Do you remember what it feels like to be wanted? 277 00:17:48,974 --> 00:17:51,005 To be truly desired and pursued? 278 00:17:51,366 --> 00:17:53,492 It's not something you experience as a debate. 279 00:17:53,662 --> 00:17:57,412 It's not an argument you need to be convinced of. It's just this... 280 00:17:58,727 --> 00:18:00,631 This force that has to be... 281 00:18:01,836 --> 00:18:03,284 That has to be reckoned with. 282 00:18:06,609 --> 00:18:08,346 What is it? Did I... 283 00:18:10,163 --> 00:18:11,163 What? 284 00:18:19,288 --> 00:18:21,473 What did I say? What's going on? 285 00:18:28,852 --> 00:18:31,480 Do you know what transference is? 286 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:37,574 When a patient has feelings for their therapist which are, 287 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:41,990 in fact, drawn from their relationships with their parents. 288 00:18:43,228 --> 00:18:47,092 They project qualities onto the therapist that don't really exist 289 00:18:47,367 --> 00:18:50,040 or they can be just exaggerated. 290 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:55,736 And then when they find the courage, the patient... 291 00:18:55,906 --> 00:18:57,617 they reach a level of trust, 292 00:18:57,787 --> 00:19:00,759 and they feel safe enough to express their desire for the... 293 00:19:01,648 --> 00:19:02,675 And... 294 00:19:04,103 --> 00:19:05,582 And so for a time, 295 00:19:06,463 --> 00:19:10,815 the patient may experience feelings as if they're truly intended for the... 296 00:19:11,513 --> 00:19:13,114 For the... therapist. 297 00:19:22,392 --> 00:19:23,742 Did you fuck her? 298 00:19:26,463 --> 00:19:27,331 What? 299 00:19:29,328 --> 00:19:31,347 Is that what you're telling me? I'm not sure. 300 00:19:31,517 --> 00:19:33,833 Are you telling me that you slept with a patient? 301 00:19:34,095 --> 00:19:35,668 No, that's not what I'm... 302 00:19:37,414 --> 00:19:41,410 You asked me if I felt someone's desire for me. And I'm saying yes. 303 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:44,346 I have patients who've indicated feelings for me, 304 00:19:44,516 --> 00:19:46,554 only I'm not flying off to Rome to fuck them. 305 00:19:47,641 --> 00:19:49,891 It happens in therapy all the time. 306 00:19:54,847 --> 00:19:56,272 Has this happened to you? 307 00:19:57,376 --> 00:19:58,475 Yes, it has. 308 00:19:59,290 --> 00:20:01,039 I've spoken to Gina about it. 309 00:20:01,209 --> 00:20:05,268 It's really valuable for me to explore my own feelings with another therapist, 310 00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:08,407 so that they don't get in the way so that I can work through my feelings 311 00:20:08,577 --> 00:20:12,406 because then I don't let them get the best of me and ruin my marriage. 312 00:20:12,576 --> 00:20:13,576 That's... 313 00:20:15,113 --> 00:20:18,119 All right, so exactly what kind of feelings 314 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:20,420 has this woman provoked in you? 315 00:20:27,826 --> 00:20:29,222 What has he said to you? 316 00:20:31,019 --> 00:20:33,069 Kate, only Paul can answer that. 317 00:20:37,393 --> 00:20:39,343 It's okay, he doesn't have to. 318 00:20:47,454 --> 00:20:50,304 This is why he needed to make some sort of a... 319 00:20:51,085 --> 00:20:53,135 declaration of commitment to me. 320 00:20:54,627 --> 00:20:56,547 This is his wagging finger, 321 00:20:56,717 --> 00:20:59,368 his "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." 322 00:20:59,538 --> 00:21:02,853 - But I didn't. - Doesn't matter. This is not nothing. 323 00:21:03,583 --> 00:21:06,342 If this were nothing, you wouldn't have brought it up here. 324 00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:10,186 If this were just some patient with a silly crush... 325 00:21:14,764 --> 00:21:18,757 Are you telling me you've fallen in love with some patient 326 00:21:19,329 --> 00:21:20,879 that you're treating? 327 00:21:25,958 --> 00:21:27,721 You have your insurance guy. 328 00:21:27,891 --> 00:21:30,735 You don't get to play the outraged wife here. 329 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,786 He's not an insurance guy and you know it. 330 00:21:33,956 --> 00:21:36,409 Thank you for another one of your stupid, painful jokes. 331 00:21:36,579 --> 00:21:38,208 And I don't get to play outraged? 332 00:21:40,023 --> 00:21:42,131 Why don't you explain the last few weeks to me, 333 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:45,125 while you've been running around like a goddamn martyr, the whole time 334 00:21:45,295 --> 00:21:48,035 you're chasing some patient. Jesus Christ. Actually, let me guess. 335 00:21:48,205 --> 00:21:51,616 What is she? Some girl with no father figure? 336 00:21:51,786 --> 00:21:54,285 He died? Abandoned her when she was 12? 337 00:21:54,455 --> 00:21:56,605 He loves that type. I'll tell you. 338 00:21:57,661 --> 00:22:00,213 - How old is she? - What type, Kate? 339 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,358 Girls with that particular brand of dysfunction... 340 00:22:04,528 --> 00:22:07,445 A tasty little daddy complex so he can sweep them off their feet. 341 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:09,572 It's daydreaming, that's all. 342 00:22:09,742 --> 00:22:12,419 Maybe it's a little more than daydreaming. 343 00:22:12,794 --> 00:22:14,990 Look, I wanted to come clean here. 344 00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:16,917 Now you know. 345 00:22:19,485 --> 00:22:23,295 The reason I'm telling you is because I want it to stop. 346 00:22:27,299 --> 00:22:28,755 You want to stop what? 347 00:22:28,925 --> 00:22:31,819 You wanna stop wanting to fuck patients? How do you stop that? 348 00:22:31,989 --> 00:22:34,193 I don't know, but we might try acting like a couple 349 00:22:34,363 --> 00:22:36,832 who actually might want to be together. 350 00:22:42,615 --> 00:22:46,570 Maybe you can describe to Kate what you're experiencing with this patient, 351 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:48,490 like Kate did with Edward. 352 00:22:49,106 --> 00:22:50,511 Look, you can't... 353 00:22:51,472 --> 00:22:53,032 You can't compare the... 354 00:22:54,616 --> 00:22:58,257 She slept with somebody. I allowed myself a fantasy. That's all. 355 00:22:58,427 --> 00:23:00,195 I never admitted it to this woman. 356 00:23:00,365 --> 00:23:03,715 - I certainly never acted on it. - But you were dying to. 357 00:23:03,885 --> 00:23:06,140 Yes, I was dying to, but I didn't. 358 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:11,056 Anyway, she quit therapy. 359 00:23:11,478 --> 00:23:14,504 I forgot to tell you, she quit therapy on Monday. 360 00:23:15,084 --> 00:23:17,735 Well, good. Now you can fuck her without worrying... 361 00:23:17,905 --> 00:23:19,758 - Or losing your license. - Or maybe now, 362 00:23:19,928 --> 00:23:22,510 I can try to save our marriage or what's left of it, which, 363 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,830 - apparently, isn't very much. - Did you say Monday? 364 00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:28,241 Monday? 365 00:23:28,551 --> 00:23:29,601 Monday, yes. 366 00:23:32,290 --> 00:23:34,630 That's why you wouldn't go with Max 367 00:23:35,342 --> 00:23:38,690 on a Monday? Because you didn't want to miss your session with this girl? 368 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:40,300 Are you serious? 369 00:23:43,177 --> 00:23:46,357 Max... He's having a lot of problems at school. 370 00:23:47,223 --> 00:23:49,384 There was this conference with his teachers 371 00:23:49,554 --> 00:23:52,004 and Paul wanted to reschedule because... 372 00:23:57,054 --> 00:23:59,404 I knew something was wrong. I knew it. 373 00:24:00,741 --> 00:24:03,991 And all your speechifying, all your fucking sanctimony, 374 00:24:04,178 --> 00:24:08,176 walking around like the mortally wounded and the whole time... Jesus. 375 00:24:08,565 --> 00:24:12,057 Makes total sense now, doesn't it? A million little things. 376 00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:14,940 When did this start? 377 00:24:16,197 --> 00:24:20,197 - How long has this been going on? - How long has what been going on? 378 00:24:20,367 --> 00:24:23,504 - I told you nothing happened. - I'll tell you when this started. 379 00:24:23,674 --> 00:24:25,906 It started a year ago, didn't it? Am I right? 380 00:24:26,076 --> 00:24:28,250 Jesus. What happened to us? 381 00:24:28,679 --> 00:24:31,382 What happened to us? What happened to you? 382 00:24:31,617 --> 00:24:33,467 What happened to you, Paul? 383 00:24:34,399 --> 00:24:35,885 Edward, he was nothing. 384 00:24:36,356 --> 00:24:38,345 - Nothing? - Can you say it's nothing? 385 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:40,817 Can you say it's nothing with this... 386 00:24:40,987 --> 00:24:43,979 - What is her name? - I can't tell you. I'm not allowed to. 387 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,631 I wanna know and you'd better tell me, Paul. 388 00:24:46,801 --> 00:24:48,451 I am not fucking around. 389 00:24:54,617 --> 00:24:57,367 Why don't you tell me it's nothing with Laura? 390 00:25:04,986 --> 00:25:05,981 My God. 391 00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:10,610 I made a mistake. I made a... 392 00:25:11,854 --> 00:25:14,324 With someone I couldn't even be in... 393 00:25:18,632 --> 00:25:21,154 - God damn you. - What do you want? 394 00:25:21,324 --> 00:25:24,929 Do you want me to say it's nothing? Because it isn't nothing. 395 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,520 That's why we're here. That's why I'm here. 396 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:32,430 Fuck you. 397 00:25:40,244 --> 00:25:42,894 Paul, you can understand how she's feeling. 398 00:25:43,304 --> 00:25:45,694 She came here wanting to leave her affair behind 399 00:25:45,864 --> 00:25:47,614 and work on your marriage. 400 00:25:48,679 --> 00:25:52,129 Then she finds out that you have feelings for another woman. 401 00:25:52,476 --> 00:25:54,255 It's not the same thing, Gina. 402 00:25:55,493 --> 00:25:56,493 Still... 403 00:25:58,929 --> 00:26:02,268 You've both been pulling away from the relationship. 404 00:26:04,613 --> 00:26:07,963 Now what's left is to fight over who's been hurt the most. 405 00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:10,230 Why? 406 00:26:11,577 --> 00:26:13,326 Why is anyone cheating? 407 00:26:14,867 --> 00:26:17,417 Looking to someone else for a connection? 408 00:26:20,057 --> 00:26:22,616 How did the marriage end up feeling this empty? 409 00:26:30,053 --> 00:26:31,903 Okay, this is a first step. 410 00:26:32,357 --> 00:26:36,221 We'll keep looking at these reactions and what they mean, 411 00:26:36,976 --> 00:26:38,440 where they started. 412 00:26:39,051 --> 00:26:40,885 As I said in the beginning, 413 00:26:41,055 --> 00:26:42,995 we should meet a few times 414 00:26:43,719 --> 00:26:46,962 and then decide to go on with couples therapy or... 415 00:26:47,743 --> 00:26:49,393 Or some other solution. 416 00:26:51,002 --> 00:26:54,958 I'd like to pay you for my sessions so far and for this one as well. 417 00:26:55,128 --> 00:26:57,304 No, we don't have to do that now. 418 00:26:57,747 --> 00:27:00,128 Five sessions. How much... 419 00:27:00,298 --> 00:27:04,446 Paul, as you said in the beginning, some lines have been blurred here. 420 00:27:04,616 --> 00:27:06,660 So, I haven't even thought about this. 421 00:27:06,921 --> 00:27:09,602 Let me figure it out and I'll send you a bill. 422 00:27:13,991 --> 00:27:16,129 What exactly am I going home with? 423 00:27:19,001 --> 00:27:22,102 What the hell am I supposed to do with this before... 424 00:27:22,272 --> 00:27:24,180 For our next installment? 425 00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:31,107 Kate, you can call me anytime. 426 00:27:31,515 --> 00:27:32,883 Paul, you know that. 427 00:27:33,053 --> 00:27:36,072 And if you wanna meet before next Friday, it's fine. 428 00:27:36,242 --> 00:27:37,242 I'm here. 429 00:27:52,867 --> 00:27:54,084 Thanks, Gina. 430 00:27:54,345 --> 00:27:55,369 Take care.