1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,991 Previously on In Treatment. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,552 How does this work? He doesn't get to interpret what I say, does he? 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,479 It's the same here as when Paul's at home, he's not a psychotherapist here. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,512 He's not a therapist at home? OK. 5 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:24,277 Do you remember what it feels like to be wanted? 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,837 What is it? Did I... 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,789 Do you know what transference is? 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,598 When a patient has feelings for their therapist 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,632 which are drawn from their relationships with their parents? 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,795 Did you fuck her? 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,998 Edward, he was nothing. Can you say it's nothing? 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,510 Can you say it's nothing with this... What is her name? 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,439 - I can't tell you, I'm not allowed to. - I want to know, and you'd better tell me. 14 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:53,869 - I am not fucking around. - Laura. 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,113 (Knock) 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,272 - Hi, Kate. - Gina. 17 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:07,594 - How are you? - OK. 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,756 - I made us some tea. - Hi. 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,199 Hi. 20 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:18,191 - Give me your cell. - Leave the... leave the ringer on. 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,310 That's kind of the point. 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,031 We're waiting for Rosie to check in. 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,913 She slept over at a friend's house and... 24 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,757 she hasn't checked in yet. 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,268 Well, at least that's what she said. 26 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:34,232 But Lord knows it's not the first time that a teenager 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,477 said she was gonna stay at a friend's and ended up somewhere else. 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,954 - So where is she? - (Laughs) 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,275 Do you think I'm withholding information? 30 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,231 Are you? 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,710 Anyway, um... 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,150 Sarah's parents are away and Rosie's not answering her phone, 33 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,316 so it's a little convenient. 34 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,999 - Didn't this happen a few weeks ago? - (Both) Mm-hm. 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,838 But this time she's been gone for 24 hours. 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,551 I mean, she is at that age, isn't she? 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,068 - That makes it OK? - No, I didn't say that. 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Her mother doesn't trust her when she says she's with a friend, 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,029 that's a cause for concern. 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,275 I'm pretty concerned. 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,675 Hence, the two phones laid out. 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,398 When did you last talk to her? 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,351 (Kate) Yesterday, when I was at work. 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,392 I don't know if Paul told you but I run a shelter for battered women 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,715 and it's also a centre for youths at risk. 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,149 Rosie volunteers there about four times a week. 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,839 She told me she'd be there and then going to Sarah's, 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,271 but she did say it in her responsible voice, which should've tipped me off. 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,154 Anyway, Sarah's parents are in Mexico and... 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,078 I don't know, maybe the girls drove off somewhere after school. 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,394 Sarah's got a car. 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,955 And Rosie was probably afraid to tell us because you might flip out and... 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,958 - I'd flip out? - Well... 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,991 Who knows? I don't know. 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,314 What kind of work does Rosie do at the centre? 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,471 Whatever's needed, basically, 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,988 from writing up schedules to running errands. 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,917 She sits in on interviews sometimes, 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,952 just so she can get a sense of how we evaluate people. 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,072 How much trouble they may be in and how much help they may need. 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,072 Four times a week - 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,634 it's a commitment for a 16-year-old kid. 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,159 17-year-old next month. 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,954 It's interesting - when Rosie's volunteering, all of a sudden she's an adult. 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,752 She's a born social worker. 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,394 Always has been, ever since she was a kid. 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,150 How did she show that when she was younger? 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,078 She was always the mediator with her friends on the playground. 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,839 Organising, making the peace, that kind of thing. 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Even her teachers remarked on it. 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,879 And you heard this where? 72 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,639 I don't recall you at too many parent-teacher conferences... 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,194 I was on the PTA board at Arlington, remember? 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,312 Well, Paul, I mean, come on, you went twice? 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,952 (Sighs) Well... 76 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,993 Did you ever see Rosie take on this mediator role at home? 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,232 What she means is was Rosie our social worker? 78 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,669 See, Gina can't conceive of a child being born 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,029 with an intrinsic desire to help other people 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,119 without it being a coping mechanism for something else. 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,752 Right? 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,153 Rosie's always been interested in being of service 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 and that's something we encouraged. 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,109 - Did we? - Well, I encouraged it. 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,550 I think it's great. I think it's incredible that she volunteers. 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,913 I talk to her about everything she sees down at the centre 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,235 and it's certainly not her responsibility 88 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,556 to deal with any of the hardcore cases or anything like that. 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,114 I make sure that she's not in over her head. 90 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,311 I tell her who's who and what's going on and... 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,836 Yeah, I agree. I think four times a week is a little too much. 92 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,633 You know, there might be a little more to it for Rosie 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,352 than a desire to help. 94 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,479 What Gina is saying is that Rosie might be working around at-risk youths 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,717 because she's distressed herself. 96 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,230 Paul, do you really think Kate and I need an interpreter? 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,312 Sorry. 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,916 When did she start volunteering? 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,509 Uh, it was, what? About six months ago. 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,471 I was thrilled at first because it meant 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,115 she was spending less time at the mall with her friends, but... 102 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,909 - Now I'm thinking she may need more of that. - What, more time at the mall? 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,350 No, you know what I mean. Just doing stupid teenager stuff. 104 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,391 I mean, why should she be so concerned 105 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,749 with the world's problems at her age? 106 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,836 - I don't think Gina's saying that. - Paul. 107 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,996 She's saying that Rosie is drawn to the place 108 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,110 because she's trying to say something to us, 109 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,232 - but that we're oblivious... - Can I speak for myself? 110 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,998 Isn't that what you're getting at? 111 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,679 It's not for you to say what I'm getting at. 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,075 Sorry. 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,078 You know, even if Rosie has a desire 114 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,032 or a vocation to help other people, 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,116 I'm wondering how much of that 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,390 do you think a 17-year-old kid needs? 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,193 16. She's still 16. 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,434 16. 119 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,916 So, yes, Paul, she may be trying to shine a light on something. 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,475 OK, that's it. I'm gonna try her again, 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,115 since apparently her volunteering is a cry for help. 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,629 Oh, thank God. It's ringing. 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,958 Rosie. 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,195 I'm gonna kill you. Where the hell have you... 125 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,595 - No, because we have... - Let me talk to her. 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,990 - Kate. - Since when does that happen? 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,634 - Let me talk to her, please. - No. When you sleep away, 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,989 you're supposed to call first thing in the morning. 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,237 - That was the agreement and you know it. - Kate... 130 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,635 No, we will discuss this at home. 131 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,911 No, because we're out. We're talking to someone. 132 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,359 An... an accountant. 133 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,396 No, you don't know him... her. (Mouths) 134 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,672 Well, he's... no, he's sittling right here, 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,951 and he is looking none too pleased about any of this. 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,675 We'll talk at home, Rosie. 137 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,959 All right. 138 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,991 So I'm not allowed to speak to her? 139 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,238 She claims she got to Sarah's late last night, they were late for school and, get this, 140 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,236 she didn't realise her phone was off, 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,874 which is like me not realising my head's on fire, but... 142 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,115 She is not staying there again. 143 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,549 (Sighs) OK, well, you tell her that. 144 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,875 (Kate sighs) 145 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,674 - If I were Gina, I'd ask, "Why now?" - "Why now" what? 146 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,551 If a couple came to me with this problem, 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,239 I'd say "Why is she choosing to act out now?" 148 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,078 That's what you'd ask? Really? 149 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,669 Well, maybe you should ask that couple and then you can get back to me. 150 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,915 (Paul) She's doing this on purpose. It's obvious. 151 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,918 She senses a conflict between us and she's turning it around, 152 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,474 to give us a taste of what it's like to worry about her. 153 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,353 She's a teenager. There's no master plan involved. 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,356 This is just how teenage girls are, right? 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,233 It's just how they think. Or don't think, in this case. 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,432 No, Kate, it's not conscious, but it's working. 157 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,995 Rosie vanishes and you become functioning parents. 158 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,032 You're united in your concern for her. 159 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,078 Do you think that Rosie senses the conflict between you? 160 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,233 Uh... 161 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,750 I think we've been pretty good about pretending. 162 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,189 We've actually gotten pretty skilled at that. 163 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,834 So, why now? As Paul asked. 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,474 Why now? Something happen? 165 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,671 You know, what... what do you think she's reacting to? 166 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,632 Well, I'd say it's more tense actually. 167 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,910 - More tense? - Mm-hm. Kate... 168 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,520 - Kate ran into Laura. - I didn't run into her, 169 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,949 I saw her as she was leaving the house. 170 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,797 - The house? - (Paul) My office. 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,992 His office, the house, my home, whatever. It's all a little blurred. 172 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,918 - I thought you said she stopped therapy? - He did say that, didn't he? 173 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,872 Her father was hospitalised and she asked if she could come. 174 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,797 She was pretty upset... 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,673 - Please, please, don't do that. - What? 176 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,632 Describing her like she's this fragile little thing, 177 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,238 like she's some poor lost soul. 178 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,236 She's not. 179 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,872 I saw her. 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,077 How did she seem to you? 181 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,994 - She's Tammy Kent. - (Snorts) 182 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,429 - What? - Who's Tammy Kent? 183 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,519 - How... how is she Tammy Kent? - You know exactly what I'm talking about. 184 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,551 (Sighs) 185 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,112 May I ask who this is? 186 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,355 A girl that Paul was in love with when we met. 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,958 A long, long time ago. 188 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,195 Well, whatever, they are exactly the same type... 189 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,117 - No, they're not. - Yes, they are. 190 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,799 And he made Laura out to be this fragile little girl, 191 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,197 and I am telling you, what I saw was this highly sexual woman 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,276 who was wearing stilettos at ten in the morning. 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,276 - I did not describe her like that. - Tammy Kent. 194 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,869 - If you formed an image of her... - No, but you let me think 195 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,956 she was one of your fatherless walking wounded. 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,150 No, you rushed to that conclusion yourself. 197 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,636 What he also forgot to mention is that she's stunningly beautiful. 198 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:39,240 And very young, but that's no surprise, is it? 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,113 Jesus Christ, it's the goddamn history of the world, 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,718 leaving your middle-aged wife and... 201 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,239 Oh, God. 202 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,316 Isn't it a little embarrassing for you 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,352 that you've turned out to be like every third man? 204 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,960 You've spent your life studying the human condition 205 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,276 and now you're just... following your dick around like a caveman. 206 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,238 This woman, Laura, she's got this, um... 207 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,995 this spoiled, aloof, and calculated look. 208 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,634 And... and she has this... 209 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,595 this air of self-confidence that is quite obviously bullshit, 210 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,519 because if anything real happened to her, she wouldn't know what the hell to do. 211 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:28,834 She was so fake. 212 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,030 And all this you saw while taking out the trash. 213 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,390 - That's absolutely amazing. - Yes, that's right, just by looking at her. 214 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,830 Everything is communicated whether we like it or not - one of your lines. 215 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,758 And you just happened to be there as she was... 216 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,233 Oh, don't keep doing that. 217 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,875 You're making me out to look like I'm some loose-cannon demented wife. 218 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,151 Well, if she is spoiled and a fake, why are you so threatened by her? 219 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,760 Because my husband is in love with her. 220 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,078 And because she's the kind of woman who always gets her man. 221 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,200 A woman like that has always been his fantasy - 222 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,879 gorgeous, self-centred, unattainable. 223 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,117 That's what I want? It's good to know that. 224 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,673 Hm. 225 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,917 You don't see yourself that way? 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,430 No. 227 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,591 So, you're not Paul's fantasy? 228 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,872 No, I'm not. 229 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,309 Yet he married you. 230 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,274 Well, I guess he got a raw deal, didn't he? 231 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:51,075 He wanted the trophy wife and he got stuck with a homemaker. 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,111 I'm just a good mom. 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,476 - Pretty boring. - Kate, listen to yourself. 234 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,193 You're completely invalidating your... 235 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,753 your sexuality, for a start... 236 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,110 I think we both know that you could've done better if you wanted to. 237 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,630 Kate, I fell in love with you, not just because you're beautiful and sexy, 238 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,398 but because... 239 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,158 because of your strength. 240 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,873 - Her strength? - Yes. 241 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,310 She was grounded and honest and... 242 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,351 and dependable. 243 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,910 I needed that. I think we both needed that. 244 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,909 Not any more. I don't need you any more. 245 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,589 Well, I need you. I've always loved you and wanted you and needed you. 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,279 But not like Laura. You never, ever wanted me like that. 247 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,038 How can you say that? 248 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,073 You keep jumping to these conclusions that make no... 249 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,112 Kate, you said you didn't need Paul any more? 250 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,675 Can you talk about that a little? 251 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,831 I don't need him like I used to. 252 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,751 Not like I thought I needed him. 253 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,475 I don't know, maybe I don't even need a partner at all. 254 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,352 I mean, would I like one? Yeah, of course. 255 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,350 But it would be awfully nice if that person were a bit more present and available. 256 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,430 But do I need it? 257 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,471 If that's the question, um... 258 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,232 No, I think I've learned to live without it. 259 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,755 (Kate sighs) 260 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,598 What kind of partner could you see yourself with? 261 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,474 (Laughs) Oh! I don't know. I... 262 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,512 I mean, you know, my frame of reference 263 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,757 for two and a half decades has been Paul, so... 264 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,197 Our friends, their husbands, 265 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,596 what the hell do I know about what they're really like? 266 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,632 What goes on behind closed doors. I mean, do we know... 267 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,671 any couple, really? 268 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,554 It's not like I sit around daydreaming about it 269 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,353 or I have some fantastic flight of fancy 270 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,595 about some perfect man or... 271 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,958 I could be with a serial killer 272 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,116 as long as he told me about his damn day. 273 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,397 And it's not just about being wanted. 274 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,715 I know that's what I said last week. 275 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,555 And wanted is good. Of course, everybody wants that, but... 276 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,633 Yes? 277 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,478 I just want to be a part of something. 278 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,949 It doesn't have to be big... 279 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,389 and it doesn't have to be grand. 280 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,592 But I'll tell you something about women like Laura. It... 281 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,474 They're just all about sex. You know, that's their currency. 282 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,637 It's not the sex itself, that's not what I'm saying, it's... 283 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,478 sex as this thing that controls... 284 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,592 that determines the distance between her and someone else, 285 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,756 and I cannot compete with that. 286 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,352 Kate... 287 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,832 Laura isn't a sexual object for Paul. 288 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,236 Their relationship isn't based on that. 289 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,430 It's more... 290 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,436 chaste. 291 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,870 She's not his sexual fantasy. It's not about lust. 292 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,439 The real threat is... 293 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,029 that he may actually have fallen in love with her. 294 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,950 You know, you said you were drawn to him. 295 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,151 You married him because you admired him... 296 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,634 because he paid such deep attention to you. 297 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,591 You were grateful... 298 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,438 that you felt you were interesting. 299 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,313 That dynamic of patient-therapist 300 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:50,636 was satisfying to both of you at that point... 301 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,478 - (Whispers) Jesus Christ. - Please let me do my job here, Paul. 302 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,512 The job of what, rushing to conclusions? 303 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,191 Eventually, Kate, you felt that it wasn't satisfying for you. 304 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,357 You've outgrown that dependency. 305 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,517 You've outgrown that part of your marriage. 306 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,358 You said you don't need Paul any more, 307 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,868 you don't need to be taken care of, 308 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,559 and Paul may have sensed this. 309 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,910 You're drifting away from under his wing, 310 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,997 and suddenly he finds himself confused 311 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,349 about his feelings for a patient. 312 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,914 Laura is dependent on Paul. 313 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,150 He's her therapist, her elder, her guide. 314 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,794 Dependency defines that relationship. 315 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,637 Oh, I see, so she's not my... 316 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,319 my groupie any more, so I found somebody to... 317 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,476 to replace her, is that your theory? 318 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,511 Nice one, Gina. 319 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,916 See, you think it's impossible to fall in love with a patient without some kind of... 320 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,952 pathology surrounding the whole thing. 321 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:04,079 Kate, you're trying to redefine yourself in your marriage, 322 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,395 to see yourself not as a dependant 323 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,556 but as an equal. 324 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,795 Do you think you can do that and stay with Paul? 325 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,353 (Paul) Oh, Gina, for fuck's sake. 326 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,597 If I'm this narcissistic monster 327 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,518 that you're talking about who has to be admired 328 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,712 and worshipped and needed, how does that fit with me sitting here 329 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,479 trying to address the problem that we've brought to you? 330 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,715 I'm not saying you're a monster, Paul. 331 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,990 In fact, if you'll listen, 332 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,429 I'm not even saying it's all you. 333 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,990 Kate, Paul may not see you as an equal, 334 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,429 but perhaps you've contributed to that. 335 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,556 Maybe it's how you wanted to be seen. 336 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,795 It's what was comfortable for you. 337 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,475 Yeah, 25 years, I always felt he could walk out at any minute. Yep. 338 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,159 Was that part of the attraction? 339 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,270 Would you stop it? Would you stop 340 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,596 putting these poisonous fucking words into her mouth? 341 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,391 You've ignored me in this conversation. You see what she's doing. 342 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,193 She's instructing you on what you should be feeling. 343 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,312 It's fucking reckless. Why are you speeding this up, Gina? 344 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,158 Do you want a medal? To see how fast you can do this? 345 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,749 Pushing Kate to a place that usually takes months if not years? 346 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,950 - That's not what I'm doing. - What takes months? 347 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,673 What she's saying is that you have a predisposition 348 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,790 to be rejected, to not be my equal, 349 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,115 that you're reacting to your childhood. 350 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,072 That is rushing the process, Gina. 351 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,394 Here's the way I think it works. 352 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,558 You focus on the couple first, then talk about their parents and childhood. 353 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,239 The other way, they blame each other. They say, "I knew it. 354 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,316 "Your mother fucked you up and you take it out on me." 355 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,635 Do see you see how destructive that is? 356 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,955 Maybe you don't want to talk about childhoods 357 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,355 because we'd end up talking about your childhood. 358 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,833 So we're back to where we started. 359 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,917 You saw me after ten years and decided that I'm my father. 360 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,996 And like him, I'm in love with my patient 361 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,474 and that I'm pushing Kate towards having an affair 362 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,750 so that I can have an excuse to leave the house. 363 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,109 And now, Kate, an hour and a half with her 364 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,798 and everything fits perfectly. 365 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,512 Game, set and match to you, Gina. 366 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,109 I can't really do this any more. I'm very sorry. I know this was my idea, 367 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,435 but I knew, deep down, that if I came here 368 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,630 it would turn into this history between you two. 369 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,592 And I'm sorry, it's just... it's really not helpful to me. 370 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,757 (Gina) I'm sorry, Kate. I'm sorry. (Kate) I apologise... 371 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,153 (Door opens) 372 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,153 (Door closes) 373 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,035 I'll see you next week, OK? 374 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,877 Good night. 375 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,229 English SDH