1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,340 Previously on In Treatment. 2 00:00:03,030 --> 00:00:06,250 How does this work? He doesn't get to interpret what I say, does he? 3 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:10,170 It's the same here as when Paul's at home, he's not a psychotherapist here. 4 00:00:10,220 --> 00:00:13,560 He's not a therapist at home? OK. 5 00:00:15,020 --> 00:00:17,970 Do you remember what it feels like to be wanted? 6 00:00:20,010 --> 00:00:21,730 What is it? Did I... 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,180 Do ... do you know what transference is? 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,990 When a patient has feelings for their therapist 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,030 which are drawn from their relationships with their parents? 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,190 Did you fuck her? 11 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:38,890 Edward, he was nothing. Can you say it's nothing? 12 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:42,710 Can you say it's nothing with this... What is her name? What is her name? 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,630 - I can't tell you, I'm not allowed to. - I want to know, and you'd better tell me Paul. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,060 - I am not fucking around. - Laura. 15 00:00:52,050 --> 00:00:53,310 (Knock) 16 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:01,970 - Hi, Kate. - Hi Gina. 17 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:03,490 - How are you? - OK. 18 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:05,650 - I made us some tea. - Hi. 19 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,090 Hi. 20 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:14,490 - Give me your cell. - Leave the... leave the ringer on. 21 00:01:14,540 --> 00:01:16,610 That's kind of the point. 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,630 We're waiting for Rosie to check in all day 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,510 She slept over at a friend's house and... 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,550 she hasn't checked in yet. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,060 Well, at least that's what she said. 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,030 But Lord knows it's not the first time that a teenager 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,270 said she was gonna stay at a friend's and ended up somewhere else. 28 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:37,050 - So where is she? - (Laughs) 29 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:39,670 Do you think I'm withholding information? 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,630 Are you? 31 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,040 Synced and corrected by: GhostedNet 32 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:07,110 Anyway, um... 33 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,750 Sarah's parents are away and Rosie's not answering her phone, 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,910 so it's a little convenient. 35 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:15,890 - Didn't this happen a few weeks ago? - (Both) Mm-hm. 36 00:02:15,940 --> 00:02:18,730 But this time she's been gone for 24 hours. 37 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:21,650 I mean, she is at that age, isn't she? 38 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,160 - That makes it OK? - No, I didn't say that. 39 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:27,120 Her mother doesn't trust her when she says she's spending a night with a friend, 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,420 that's a cause for concern. 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,670 I'm pretty concerned. 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,150 (Kate) Ah, yesterday, when I was at work. 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,900 I don't know if Paul told you but I run a shelter for battered women and 46 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:45,210 it's also a centre for youths at risk and ... 47 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:47,640 Rosie volunteers there about four times a week. 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,180 She told me she'd be there and then going to Sarah's, 49 00:02:50,180 --> 00:02:54,570 but you know what, she did say it in her responsible voice, which should've tipped me off. 50 00:02:54,820 --> 00:02:58,650 Anyway, Sarah's parents are in Mexico and... 51 00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:01,770 I don't know, maybe the girls drove off somewhere after school. 52 00:03:01,820 --> 00:03:03,090 Sarah's got a car. 53 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:06,650 And you know, Rosie was probably afraid to tell us because you might flip out and... 54 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:09,650 - I'd flip out? - Well... 55 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:11,890 Who knows? I don't know. 56 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:17,710 What kind of work does Rosie do at the centre? 57 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:20,970 Whatever's needed, basically, 58 00:03:21,020 --> 00:03:23,480 from writing up schedules to running errands. 59 00:03:23,830 --> 00:03:25,610 She sits in on interviews sometimes, 60 00:03:25,660 --> 00:03:28,650 just so she can get a sense of how we evaluate people. 61 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:31,970 How much trouble they may be in and how much help they may need, that sort of thing. 62 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:34,970 Four times a week - 63 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:37,730 it's a commitment for a 16-year-old kid. 64 00:03:37,780 --> 00:03:39,250 17-year-old next month. 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,350 It's interesting - when Rosie's volunteering, all of a sudden she's an adult. 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,350 She's a born social worker. 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,990 Always has been, ever since she was a kid. 68 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:52,800 How did she show there when she was younger? 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,420 She was always the mediator with her friends on the playground you know. 70 00:03:56,420 --> 00:03:59,130 Organising, making the peace, that kind of thing. 71 00:03:59,180 --> 00:04:01,740 Even her teachers remarked on it. 72 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,270 And you heard this where? 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,030 I don't recall you at too many parent-teacher conferences... 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,590 I was on the PTA board at Arlington, remember? 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,710 Well, Paul, I mean, come on, you went twice? 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,350 (Sighs) Well... 77 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:17,690 Did you ever see Rosie take on this mediator role at home? 78 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:25,230 What what she means is was Rosie our social worker? 79 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,860 See, Gina can't conceive of a child being born 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,280 with an intrinsic desire to help other people 81 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:34,310 without it being a coping mechanism for something else. 82 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:36,250 Right? 83 00:04:42,290 --> 00:04:44,950 Rosie's always been interested in being of service 84 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,560 and that's something we encouraged. 85 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:50,200 - Did we? - Well, I encouraged it. 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,410 I think it's great. I think it's incredible that she ... that she volunteers. 87 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,510 I, i talk to her about everything she sees down at the centre 88 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,830 and it's certainly not her responsibility 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,150 to deal with any of the hardcore cases or anything like that. 90 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:10,460 I make sure that she's not in over her head. 91 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:13,610 I, i tell her who's who and what's going on and... 92 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,130 Yeah i do, I agree with you. I think four times a week is a little too much. 93 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:28,380 You know, there might be a little more to it for Rosie 94 00:05:28,380 --> 00:05:30,050 than a desire to help. 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,370 What Gina is saying is that Rosie might be working around at-risk youths 96 00:05:35,420 --> 00:05:38,610 because she's distressed herself. 97 00:05:39,010 --> 00:05:42,430 Paul, do you really think Kate and I need an interpreter? 98 00:05:43,970 --> 00:05:45,510 Sorry. 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,310 When did she start volunteering? 100 00:05:48,610 --> 00:05:52,100 Uh, it was, what? About six six months ago. 101 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:54,370 And i was thrilled at first because it meant 102 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:58,010 she was spending less time at the mall with her friends, but... 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,900 I dont know, i'm thinking she may need more of that. - What, more time at the mall? 104 00:06:03,260 --> 00:06:06,650 No, you know what I mean. Just doing stupid teenager stuff. 105 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:08,690 I mean, why should she be so concerned 106 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:11,040 with the world's problems at her age? 107 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,130 Well i don't think Gina's saying that. - Paul. 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,590 She's saying that Rosie is drawn to the place 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,710 because she's trying to say something to us, 110 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,030 - but that we're oblivious, i think that ... - Can I speak for myself? 111 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:22,640 Isn't that what you're getting at? 112 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,270 It's not for you to say what I'm getting at. 113 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:29,170 Sorry. 114 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:32,670 You know, even if Rosie has a desire 115 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,630 or a vocation to help other people, 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,710 I'm wondering how much of that 117 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,990 do you think a 17-year-old kid needs? 118 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,090 16. She's still 16. 119 00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:44,330 16. 120 00:06:44,380 --> 00:06:47,810 So, yes, Paul, she may be trying to shine a light on something. 121 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:53,570 OK, that's it. I'm gonna try her again, 122 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:57,210 since apparently her volunteering is a cry for help. 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,420 Oh, thank God. It's ringing. 124 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:09,750 Rosie. 125 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,190 I'm gonna kill you. Where the hell ... 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,590 - No, because we have... - Let me talk to her. 127 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:19,990 - Kate. - Since when does that happen? 128 00:07:20,470 --> 00:07:23,030 Kate let me talk to her, please. - No. When you sleep away, 129 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,380 you're supposed to call first thing in the morning. 130 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:28,630 - That was the agreement and you know it. - Kate..., Kate ... 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,230 No, we will discuss this at home. 132 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:34,810 No, because we're out. We're talking to someone. 133 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,350 An... an accountant. 134 00:07:38,410 --> 00:07:40,490 No, you don't know him... her. (Mouths) 135 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:43,970 Well, he's... no, he's sittling right here, 136 00:07:44,020 --> 00:07:47,250 and he is looking none too pleased about any of this. 137 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:51,170 We'll talk at home, Rosie. 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,450 All right. 139 00:07:54,770 --> 00:07:56,690 So I'm not allowed to speak to her? 140 00:07:56,870 --> 00:08:01,380 She claims she got to Sarah's late last night, That they were both late for school this mornig and, get this, 141 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:03,330 she didn't realise her phone was off, 142 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:05,970 which is like me not realising my head's on fire, but... 143 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:08,410 She is not staying there again. 144 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:10,840 (Sighs) OK, well, you tell her that. 145 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:13,170 (Kate sighs) 146 00:08:13,220 --> 00:08:17,400 - If I were Gina, I'd ask, "Why now?" - "Why now" what? 147 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:19,250 Well if a couple came to me with this problem, 148 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,930 I'd say "Why is she choosing to act out now?" 149 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:24,970 That's what you'd ask? Really? 150 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:29,320 Well, maybe you should call that couple and ask and then you can get back to me. 151 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,260 (Paul) She's doing this on purpose. It's obvious. 152 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:34,210 She senses a conflict between us and she's turning it around, 153 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:36,770 So that she is giving us a taste of what it's like to worry about her. 154 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:39,850 She's a teenager. There's no master plan involved. 155 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:41,850 This is just how teenage girls are, right? 156 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:45,080 I mean it's just how they think. Or don't think, in this case. 157 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,230 No, Kate, it's not conscious, but it's working. 158 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:53,090 Rosie vanishes and you become functioning parents. 159 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,430 You're united in your concern for her. 160 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,470 Do you think that Rosie senses the conflict between you? 161 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,930 Uh... 162 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:14,650 I - i - i think we've been pretty good about pretending. 163 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:16,490 We've actually gotten pretty skilled at that. 164 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:19,530 So, why now? As Paul asked. 165 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:22,770 Why now? Something happen? 166 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:26,170 You know, what... what do you think she's reacting to? 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,130 Well, I'd say it's more tense actually. 168 00:09:29,310 --> 00:09:31,510 - More tense? - Mm-hm. Kate... 169 00:09:31,690 --> 00:09:34,220 - Kate ran into Laura. - I didn't run into her, 170 00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:36,840 I saw her as she was leaving the house. 171 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,690 - The house? - (Paul) My office. 172 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,990 His office, the house, my home, whatever. It's all a little blurred, isn't it? 173 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:46,210 - I thought you said she stopped therapy? - He did say that, didn't he? 174 00:09:46,260 --> 00:09:49,320 Actually, Her father was hospitalised and she asked me if she could come by 175 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,190 She was pretty upset... 176 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:54,170 - Please, please, don't do that. - What? 177 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:57,330 Describing her like she's this fragile little thing, 178 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:58,930 like she's some poor lost soul. 179 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:00,930 She's not. 180 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,870 I saw her. 181 00:10:04,350 --> 00:10:06,170 How did she seem to you? 182 00:10:08,860 --> 00:10:11,290 - She's Tammy Kent. - (Snorts) 183 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 - What? - Who's Tammy Kent? 184 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:17,810 - How... how is she Tammy Kent? - You know exactly what I'm talking about. 185 00:10:17,860 --> 00:10:19,850 (Sighs) 186 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:25,010 May I ask who this is? 187 00:10:25,090 --> 00:10:27,250 This was A girl that Paul was in love with when we first met. 188 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:28,850 A long, long time ago. 189 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:31,090 Well, whatever, they are exactly the same type... 190 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:33,200 - No, they're not. And he, - Yes, they are. 191 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,990 And he made Laura out to be this fragile little girl, 192 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,390 and I am telling you, what I saw was this highly sexual woman 193 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,470 who was wearing stilettos at ten in the morning. 194 00:10:43,020 --> 00:10:44,970 - I did not describe her like that. - Tammy Kent. 195 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:48,560 - If you formed an image of her... - No, but you let me think 196 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:50,650 she was one of your fatherless walking wounded. 197 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,950 No, you rushed to that conclusion yourself. 198 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,430 Oh and what he also forgot to mention is that she's stunningly beautiful. 199 00:10:56,780 --> 00:10:59,340 And very young, but that's no surprise, is it? 200 00:10:59,630 --> 00:11:02,410 Jesus Christ, it's the goddamn history of the world, 201 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:04,110 leaving your middle-aged wife and... 202 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:05,930 Oh, God. 203 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:08,010 Isn't it a little embarrassing for you 204 00:11:08,060 --> 00:11:11,050 that you've turned out to be like every third man? 205 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,860 You've spent your life studying the human condition 206 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:17,170 And and - and now you're just... following your dick around like a caveman. 207 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,630 This woman, Laura, she's got this, um... 208 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,590 this spoiled, aloof, and calculated look. 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,230 And... and ...and ... and she has this... 210 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:45,690 this air of self-confidence that is quite obviously bullshit, 211 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:49,610 because if anything real ever happened to her, she wouldn't know what the hell to do. 212 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:51,230 She was so fake. 213 00:11:51,310 --> 00:11:53,430 And - and - and all this you saw while taking out the trash. 214 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,790 - That's absolutely amazing. - Yes, that's right, just by looking at her. 215 00:11:57,140 --> 00:12:00,530 Everything is communicated whether we like it or not - another one of your lines. 216 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:03,450 And you just happened to be there as she was... 217 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:04,930 Oh, don't keep doing that. 218 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:08,570 You're making me out to look like I'm some loose-cannon demented wife. 219 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:12,250 Well, if she is all that spoiled and a fake, why are you so threatened by her? 220 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:14,860 Because my husband is in love with her. 221 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,280 And because she's the kind of woman who always gets her man. 222 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:39,500 A woman like that has always been his fantasy - 223 00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:42,170 gorgeous, self-centred, unattainable. 224 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:45,810 That's what I want? It's good to know that. 225 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:47,670 Hm. 226 00:12:48,860 --> 00:12:50,910 You don't see yourself that way? 227 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,430 No. 228 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,590 So, you're not Paul's fantasy? 229 00:12:59,420 --> 00:13:00,870 No, I'm not. 230 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:03,300 Yet he married you. 231 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,470 Well, I guess he got a raw deal, didn't he? 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,770 He wanted the trophy wife and he got stuck with a homemaker. 233 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,110 I'm just a good mom. 234 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,670 - Pretty boring. Camon Kate, listen to yourself. 235 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,390 You're completely invalidating your... 236 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:27,250 your sexuality, for a start... 237 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:30,610 I think we both know that you could've done better if you wanted to. 238 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:34,130 Kate, I fell in love with you, not just because you're beautiful and sexy, 239 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:35,890 but because... 240 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,950 because of your strength. 241 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:42,670 - Her strength? - Yes. 242 00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:46,410 She was ... she was grounded and honest and... 243 00:13:46,460 --> 00:13:48,450 and dependable. 244 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:53,010 I needed that. I think we both needed that. 245 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:01,600 Not any more. I don't need you any more. 246 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:27,280 Well, I need you. I've always loved you and wanted you and needed you. 247 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:30,170 But not like Laura. You never, ever wanted me like that. 248 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:31,930 How can you say that? 249 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:35,970 You keep jumping to these conclusions that make no... 250 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:50,710 Kate, you said you didn't need Paul any more? 251 00:14:52,220 --> 00:14:54,570 Can you talk about that a little? 252 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,030 I don't need him like I used to. 253 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,250 Not like I thought I needed him. 254 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:11,970 And i don't know, maybe I don't even need a partner at all. 255 00:15:14,130 --> 00:15:17,150 I mean, would I like one? Yeah, of course. 256 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,750 But it would be awfully nice if that person were a bit more present and available. 257 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,830 But do I need it? 258 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,870 If that's the question, um... 259 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:34,630 No, I think I've learned to live without it. 260 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,460 (Kate sighs) 261 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,390 What kind of partner could you see yourself with? 262 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:46,470 (Laughs) Oh! I don't know. I... 263 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:49,610 I mean, you know, my frame of reference 264 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:52,850 for two and a half decades has been Paul, so... 265 00:15:55,870 --> 00:15:57,340 Our friends, their husbands, 266 00:15:57,340 --> 00:16:00,690 What - what - what the hell do I know about what they're really like? 267 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,230 What goes on behind closed doors. I mean, do we know... 268 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:06,570 any couple, really? 269 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:11,650 It's not like I sit around daydreaming about it 270 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:14,450 or I have some fantastic flight of fancy 271 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:16,690 about some perfect man or... 272 00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:20,450 I could be with a serial killer 273 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:22,610 as long as he told me about his damn day. 274 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,390 And it's not just about being wanted. 275 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,710 I know that's what I said last week. 276 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,750 And wanted is good. Of course, everybody wants that, but... 277 00:16:45,620 --> 00:16:46,830 Yes? 278 00:16:47,390 --> 00:16:49,970 I just want to be a part of something. 279 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,740 It doesn't have to be big... 280 00:16:53,870 --> 00:16:56,180 and it doesn't have to be grand. 281 00:17:03,580 --> 00:17:07,890 But I'll tell you something about women like Laura. It... 282 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,070 They're - they're just all about sex. You know, that's their currency, that's ... 283 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:18,230 It's not the sex itself, that's not what I'm saying, it's... 284 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:21,170 sex as this thing that controls... 285 00:17:21,470 --> 00:17:24,490 That - that determines the distance between her and someone else, 286 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,750 and I cannot compete with that. 287 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:36,850 Kate... 288 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:41,530 Laura isn't a sexual object for Paul. 289 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:45,130 Their relationship isn't based on that. 290 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,580 It's more... 291 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:47,830 chaste. It's more... 292 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:49,430 chaste. 293 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,070 She's not his sexual fantasy. It's not about lust. 294 00:17:58,310 --> 00:18:00,830 The real threat is... 295 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,620 that he may actually have fallen in love with her. 296 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,750 You know, you said you were drawn to him. 297 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,950 You married him because you admired him... 298 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,830 because he paid such deep attention to you. 299 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:18,890 You were grateful... 300 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,730 that you felt you were interesting. 301 00:18:23,030 --> 00:18:25,810 That dynamic of patient-therapist 302 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,330 was satisfying to both of you at that point... 303 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:31,820 Well i think ... - (Whispers) "Jesus Christ". - Please let me do my job here, Paul. 304 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:33,170 (Paul) "The you have a what? rushing to conclusions?" Well i think ... - (Whispers) "Jesus Christ". - Please let me do my job here, Paul. 305 00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:34,810 (Paul) "The you have a what? rushing to conclusions?" 306 00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:42,290 Eventually, Kate, you felt that it wasn't satisfying for you. 307 00:18:42,540 --> 00:18:45,650 You - You've outgrown that dependency. 308 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:49,210 Now You've outgrown that part of your marriage. 309 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:52,050 You - You said you don't need Paul any more, 310 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:54,560 you don't need to be taken care of, 311 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:57,450 and Paul may have sensed this. 312 00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:01,010 You're drifting away from under his wing, 313 00:19:01,460 --> 00:19:06,050 and suddenly he finds himself confused about his feelings for a patient. 314 00:19:07,820 --> 00:19:10,410 Laura is dependent on Paul. 315 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,650 He's her therapist, her elder, her guide. 316 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,490 Dependency defines that relationship. 317 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:22,330 Oh, I see, so she's not my... 318 00:19:22,380 --> 00:19:25,360 my groupie any more, so I found somebody to... 319 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,470 to replace her, is that your theory? 320 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,710 Nice one, Gina. 321 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:35,110 See your proble is you think it's impossible to fall in love with a patient without some kind of... 322 00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:38,300 pathology surrounding the whole thing. 323 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:45,620 Kate, you're trying to redefine yourself in your marriage, 324 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:48,240 to see yourself not as a dependant 325 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,400 but as an equal. 326 00:19:50,850 --> 00:19:52,790 Do you think you can do that and stay with Paul? 327 00:19:52,790 --> 00:19:54,300 (Paul) Oh, Gina, for fuck's sake. 328 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:57,840 If I'm this narcissistic monster 329 00:19:57,890 --> 00:20:00,760 that you're talking about who has to be admired 330 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:05,710 And - and - and - and worshipped and needed, how does that fit with me sitting here 331 00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:08,170 trying to address the problem that we've brought to you? 332 00:20:08,170 --> 00:20:08,420 (Gina) "I'm not saying you're a monster, Paul." trying to address the problem that we've brought to you? 333 00:20:08,420 --> 00:20:10,360 (Gina) "I'm not saying you're a monster, Paul." 334 00:20:10,690 --> 00:20:12,840 In fact, if you'll listen, 335 00:20:13,090 --> 00:20:15,470 I'm not even saying it's all you. 336 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:21,020 Kate, Paul may not see you as an equal, 337 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:23,770 but perhaps you've contributed to that. 338 00:20:24,670 --> 00:20:27,900 Maybe it's how you wanted to be seen. 339 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,340 It's what was comfortable for you. 340 00:20:31,550 --> 00:20:35,220 Yeah, 25 years, I always felt he could walk out at any minute. Yep. 341 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,900 Was that part of the attraction? 342 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:40,320 Would you stop it? Would you stop 343 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:43,640 putting these poisonous fucking words into her mouth? 344 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:47,940 You've ignored me in this conversation. You see what she's doing. 345 00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:50,890 She's instructing you on what you should be feeling. 346 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:54,010 It's fucking reckless. Why are you speeding this up, Gina? 347 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:56,850 Do you want a medal? Is that it? To see how fast you can do this? 348 00:20:57,050 --> 00:21:00,590 Pushing Kate to a place that usually takes months if not years? 349 00:21:00,990 --> 00:21:03,100 - That's not what I'm doing. - What takes months? 350 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:05,820 What she's saying is that you have a predisposition 351 00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:07,940 to be rejected, to not be my equal, 352 00:21:08,190 --> 00:21:10,460 that you're reacting to your childhood. 353 00:21:10,510 --> 00:21:13,420 That is, that is rushing the process, Gina. 354 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:15,940 Here's the way I think it works. 355 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:20,100 You are supposed to focus on the couple first, then talk them about their parents and their childhood. 356 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:23,080 You're doing the other way, they blame each other. They say, "Oh I knew it. 357 00:21:23,130 --> 00:21:25,160 "Your mother fucked you up and you take it out on me." 358 00:21:25,210 --> 00:21:27,480 Do see you see how destructive that is? 359 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,100 Maybe you don't want to talk about childhoods 360 00:21:30,250 --> 00:21:32,600 because we'd end up talking about your childhood. 361 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:34,080 Oh so we're back to where we started. 362 00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:37,160 You saw me after ten years and right away you decided that I'm my father. 363 00:21:37,210 --> 00:21:39,240 And like him, I'm in love with my patient 364 00:21:39,290 --> 00:21:42,170 and that I'm pushing Kate towards having an affair 365 00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,400 so that I can have an excuse to leave the house. 366 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:46,850 And now of course, Kate, an hour and a half with her 367 00:21:46,910 --> 00:21:48,540 and everything fits perfectly. 368 00:21:48,790 --> 00:21:50,460 Game, set and match to you, Gina. 369 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:54,050 You know what? I can't really do this any more. I'm very sorry. I know this was my idea, 370 00:21:54,110 --> 00:21:56,380 but I knew, deep down, that if I came here 371 00:21:56,430 --> 00:21:58,580 it would turn into this history between you two. 372 00:21:58,630 --> 00:22:01,800 And I'm sorry, it's just... it's really not helpful to me. 373 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:05,100 (Gina) I'm sorry, Kate. I'm sorry. (Kate) I apologise... 374 00:22:05,810 --> 00:22:06,900 (Door opens) 375 00:22:08,550 --> 00:22:09,900 (Door closes) 376 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:23,080 I'll see you next week, OK? 377 00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:25,120 Good night. 378 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,830 Synced and corrected by: GhostedNet