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(Both laughing)
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Time's running out.
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Ray Allen for three
at the buzzer.
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- Yes!
- Oh!
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Heat win by two.
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Carmelo with a running hook!
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(Bottle clatters)
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(Loud crash)
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Carrie:
You're forgetting.
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I hit the Red Sox
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on Wednesday.
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Plus, I nailed that
three-team parlay
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of the A's, Jays and
the Reds on Friday, right?
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Which would put
my new total at...
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See, that is a very
nice number, Zeke.
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All right, give me the Mets
tonight, two times.
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Okay.
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Bye.
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That was my bank.
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Your bank's not like my bank.
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Oh, you have no idea.
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So what do we got?
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Old guy took a noser
from the 12th floor.
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Eliot has us out here
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because he's some
big-shot doctor
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on the faculty at Algonquian.
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What's his name?
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Uh, hold on.
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Lustig.
Eugene Lustig.
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Lustig:
"So while we will always
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gaze ahead with wonder
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at the great uncharted
terrain of the future,
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I believe it will
soon be possible,
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by unlocking
the secrets of memory,
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to turn our gaze behind us
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and bathe in new sunlight
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the hidden landscapes
of our past."
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Thank you.
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Man:
I'm so sorry, folks,
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Dr. Lustig has
another engagement.
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Thank you so much for coming.
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Lustig: Bye-bye.
Take care. Thanks.
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Carrie:
Dr. Lustig. Hi.
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I'm sorry, Dr. Lustig
has a plane to catch.
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Dr. Lustig, I just need
to talk to you for one minute.
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"Thank you for your
kind words, chancellor.
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It's great to be
back at my Alma Mater
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under such a bluebird sky.
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30 years ago,
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when the late Professor
Ed Hartung introduced me
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to the mysteries
of the human memory..."
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This is the speech I gave
at Cornell last week.
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It hasn't been published yet.
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Did someone give you a copy?
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No.
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I think I'll, uh,
catch a later flight.
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Jo?
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Hi.
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I saw him speak at the Y.
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He was very impressive.
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Yes, he was.
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Webster:
Came down 12 stories.
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Pushed, jumped
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or fell... that is the question.
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In my opinion,
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his injuries are
consistent with a high fall,
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but anything else,
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tomorrow will tell.
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Did they, um...
Did they see anything?
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The landing, not the dismount.
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Al, I-I knew him.
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It was 2004.
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Year and a half after...
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I quit the force.
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Quit you.
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I was a wreck.
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I mean, every, uh...
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Every bad thing
that had ever happened to me,
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every mistake I had ever made
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was running in my head
on a loop.
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Like a swarm of bees.
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And then I heard about
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this neurologist,
Eugene Lustig, and...
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so I tracked him down.
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I figured, you know, why not...
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donate my body to science
before I was dead?
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Maybe in the process,
I wouldn't crack up.
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Then I-I joined
a research group,
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with five other people.
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The first of
what became known as
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highly superior
autobiographical memory.
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HSAM.
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Were you still
in touch with him?
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No, not for years.
It's...
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Gene Lustig is the reason
I didn't crack up.
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Not exactly lived-in.
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You'd expect
a few books at least.
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Know if he was married?
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He was.
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Getting divorced, actually.
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I just talked to the neighbor.
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She said Lustig moved in
a month ago
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after breaking up with his wife.
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Neighbor know him well?
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It occurred to me,
but she says no.
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But she did say
Lustig was having
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a bunch of health problems,
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was down in the dumps lately.
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And judging by
how clean this place is...
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No sign of struggle
or forced entry...
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Kind of makes you wonder.
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What are you saying? Suicide?
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You find a suicide note?
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Any kind of drugs
for depression?
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No, but, you know,
still doesn't mean...
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Then I'm not buying it.
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Al:
Railing's too high.
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We can cross off "accident""
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Webster:
Came down 12 stories.
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Pushed, jumped or fell...
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There was a geranium
right there.
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There was a plant.
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How you got geranium,
I don't know.
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Because I saw it down below.
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Bits of Clay, dirt...
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Gene's attacker...
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Rushes him and throws him over,
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but Gene grabs
on to the railing.
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So in order to break his grip,
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the attacker picks up the
first thing he can find,
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and... smash.
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The flower pot goes over, too.
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We don't know the flower pot
is connected to this,
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we don't know how many
people were involved,
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we don't know for sure
he didn't jump.
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We'll get Webster on it,
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and CSU will take a look
at the clay fragments.
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I knew Gene Lustig.
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He was one of the most
positive, vibrant people
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I have ever met.
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He gave me hope
when I had none,
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and that's not easy to do.
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He didn't commit suicide.
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Memory Kings
Originally Aired August 18, 2013
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Three fingers are broken,
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each between the first
and second knuckle.
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Also...
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I found topsoil in his scalp
and under his shirt collar.
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Absent your flower pot theory,
I came up with nothing.
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His neighbor said he had
some kind of health problems.
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- Did you find anything?
- Oh.
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Jumped right out at me.
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He had cancer.
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Cancer?
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Mm-hmm.
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See those little white dots?
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Radioactive tubes.
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Brachytherapy.
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Prostate cancer.
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Exactly.
Treated early,
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the success rate is...
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95% after 15 years.
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So then that would not
be a reason
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for him to jump off a balcony.
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Right.
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Oh, Carrie, I'm so sorry.
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Al told me you knew him.
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Were you his student?
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More like his object of study.
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I can't imagine
you being a lab rat.
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I was difficult.
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I tried to chew through
the bars on my cage.
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(Laughs)
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Look, I know I'm not
the detective on this,
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but I'm with you.
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Your friend had help
going over that balcony.
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Carrie!
Oh.
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(Laughs): Sorry,
I didn't mean to startle you.
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Hi. That's okay.
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May I call you Carrie?
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Yeah, sure, sure.
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Great. Come on.
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I want to tell you all about
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- this little study I've dreamed up.
- Okay.
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No needles, no electrodes,
I assure you.
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Oh, well, that's...
that's a relief.
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(Chuckles) Just simple questions
to gauge the capacity
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of your marvelous mind.
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I don't know about "marvelous""
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Save the modesty
for Terry Gross.
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This is science.
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Next week, I want to have you
meet the others.
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Others?
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Yeah, the other study subjects.
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Oh, did you think
you were alone?
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It's okay.
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You can go.
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I'll take good care of him.
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Thanks, Jo.
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Nothing on the surveillance
video from Lustig's building.
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The camera in the lobby
shows him entering alone.
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No cameras at all in
the basement or garage.
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Any prints off the flower pot?
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CSU has to reassemble it first.
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We're talking pellets.
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I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Well, it looks like
the ex-wife's clean.
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Friends say the divorce
was amicable,
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and she's been in Europe
for five weeks.
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So she's out of the picture.
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But I wouldn't come to you
without something.
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Been digging around
at the university.
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Meet Alwyn Pierce.
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Assistant Professor of neurology
at Algonquian.
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Former graduate student
of our Dr. Lustig.
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Something of a protégé.
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Lustig had high hopes
for this lady.
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Apparently she had
high hopes, too,
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but they never panned out.
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According to some of
the faculty members I spoke to,
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she was pretty difficult.
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Just last month,
she was denied tenure.
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How'd she take it?
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Not good.
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It all blew up at
a faculty meeting a week ago.
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She accused Lustig
of rigging the vote.
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- Did she?
- She did.
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And according to folks at that
meeting, she really went off.
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They had to call
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campus security.
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(School bell ringing)
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Carrie:
Alwyn?
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Alwyn Pierce?
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Carrie Wells.
Yeah, we met years ago,
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in Gene's first HSAM study.
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Yes, I know. I remember.
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Lieutenant Al Burns.
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Of course.
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You're here because of Gene.
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You guys worked together
for a long time.
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This must be hard for you.
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It is.
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Al:
Though we understand
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you two had
your differences lately.
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Perhaps, but
professional squabbles
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seem irrelevant
at times like these.
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Carrie:
As opposed to a week ago,
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when professional squabbles
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led to you being escorted
from a faculty meeting
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by four security guards.
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I worked with Gene
for ten years.
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And I felt I earned his support.
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Instead, he blackballed me.
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So draw your own conclusions
about our "differences."
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Why would he blackball you?
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I have no idea.
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If he were alive,
you could ask him yourself.
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You know, we don't
need to ask him.
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According to a transcript
from the tenure committee,
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Gene thought
your work displayed...
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and I don't think
I'm getting this wrong...
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"A shoddy methodology
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bordering on fraudulent."
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Now, that... that had to hurt.
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That was a joke.
267
00:09:56,556 --> 00:09:58,355
Especially since his work
268
00:09:58,357 --> 00:09:59,323
was sloppy and mediocre.
269
00:09:59,325 --> 00:10:01,125
I was a part of Gene's work.
270
00:10:01,127 --> 00:10:03,794
There was nothing mediocre
or sloppy about it.
271
00:10:03,796 --> 00:10:06,864
Where you were between the hours
of 6:00 and 7:00 this morning?
272
00:10:06,866 --> 00:10:08,098
Wait a minute.
273
00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,667
I got denied tenure,
274
00:10:09,669 --> 00:10:10,801
and I blame Eugene Lustig,
275
00:10:10,803 --> 00:10:12,469
but I sure as hell
didn't kill him.
276
00:10:12,471 --> 00:10:14,772
You sure as hell
didn't answer my question.
277
00:10:14,774 --> 00:10:18,142
I was asleep,
in my bed, by myself.
278
00:10:18,144 --> 00:10:19,843
You need proof, talk to my cat.
279
00:10:19,845 --> 00:10:22,713
Now, if you'll excuse me,
I have a class to teach.
280
00:10:25,345 --> 00:10:27,054
Eliot:
She make any physical threats?
281
00:10:27,174 --> 00:10:28,052
"I'll ruin your life.
282
00:10:28,054 --> 00:10:29,286
You'll regret
what you've done.
283
00:10:29,288 --> 00:10:30,854
You'll be sorry "
that sort of thing.
284
00:10:30,856 --> 00:10:33,023
Sounds like my daily staff
meeting at the mayor's office.
285
00:10:33,025 --> 00:10:34,291
Anything else?
286
00:10:34,293 --> 00:10:35,859
Well, we're trying to find
something more concrete,
287
00:10:35,861 --> 00:10:38,262
see if we can work up a warrant
to search her place.
288
00:10:38,264 --> 00:10:40,030
Please, Burns,
with all deliberate speed?
289
00:10:40,032 --> 00:10:42,432
Algonquian university
pumps $9 billion
290
00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,167
into this city's
economy every year.
291
00:10:44,169 --> 00:10:46,670
I know, I thought it was
a typo, too. It's not.
292
00:10:46,672 --> 00:10:48,772
Having this on the front page
of The Times
293
00:10:48,774 --> 00:10:50,974
irritates the mayor,
who then irritates me.
294
00:10:50,976 --> 00:10:52,242
That's a lot of irritation.
295
00:10:52,244 --> 00:10:53,377
You need more on this woman,
296
00:10:53,379 --> 00:10:54,745
and you're not gonna
find it here.
297
00:10:54,747 --> 00:10:56,913
Would it help to know
that she's a thief?
298
00:10:56,915 --> 00:10:57,881
Check this out.
299
00:10:57,883 --> 00:11:00,317
I followed up
with campus security.
300
00:11:00,319 --> 00:11:02,319
Got them to give me
all the neuro lab
301
00:11:02,321 --> 00:11:03,687
surveillance footage
since that faculty meeting
302
00:11:03,689 --> 00:11:04,755
where Alwyn went off.
303
00:11:04,757 --> 00:11:07,224
2:30 A.M., one day
after the tenure meeting.
304
00:11:07,226 --> 00:11:08,425
Alwyn enters the lab,
305
00:11:08,427 --> 00:11:11,313
and she heads for a cabinet
by Lustig's desk.
306
00:11:11,433 --> 00:11:13,175
She opens the cabinet.
307
00:11:15,466 --> 00:11:17,300
Right there. That box.
308
00:11:17,302 --> 00:11:19,502
Security say she was authorized
to be there?
309
00:11:19,504 --> 00:11:20,937
Definitely not.
310
00:11:20,939 --> 00:11:23,273
That's trespassing.
311
00:11:23,275 --> 00:11:24,307
Forget the search warrant.
312
00:11:24,309 --> 00:11:26,509
- Go pick her up.
- Right.
313
00:11:30,081 --> 00:11:31,982
(Knocking)
314
00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:36,152
Alwyn Pierce, I repeat,
this is the NYPD.
315
00:11:43,094 --> 00:11:44,828
Murray:
Alwyn Pierce?
316
00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:46,763
Alwyn?
317
00:11:53,409 --> 00:11:55,622
Well, we can rule out
your garden-variety robbery.
318
00:11:55,624 --> 00:11:57,524
Money, credit cards, all here.
319
00:11:57,526 --> 00:11:59,793
No sign of forced entry,
no struggle.
320
00:11:59,795 --> 00:12:01,061
She let them in.
321
00:12:01,063 --> 00:12:02,929
Yeah, that's how
I read it, too.
322
00:12:03,531 --> 00:12:06,933
Her phone shows one
45-second call at 6:30.
323
00:12:06,935 --> 00:12:09,902
Traces back to a pay phone
at a gas station in Brooklyn.
324
00:12:09,904 --> 00:12:12,472
We'll check
for surveillance cams.
325
00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:28,554
Al?
326
00:12:31,926 --> 00:12:34,294
That's the box Alwyn took
from Lustig's office.
327
00:12:34,296 --> 00:12:36,729
Carrie: These are tapes
from Gene's HSAM study...
328
00:12:36,731 --> 00:12:38,831
From my HSAM study.
329
00:12:41,635 --> 00:12:43,002
December 3rd was a Friday.
330
00:12:43,004 --> 00:12:44,504
I got off early, so I went
331
00:12:44,506 --> 00:12:47,540
to a 4:30 show
of Unbreakable.
332
00:12:47,542 --> 00:12:49,375
- With a friend?
- Alone.
333
00:12:49,377 --> 00:12:50,877
It was at the Syracuse Odeon.
334
00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:51,878
Wow, it was cheap.
335
00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,279
It was four bucks.
336
00:12:53,281 --> 00:12:54,514
Any trailers?
337
00:12:54,516 --> 00:12:56,549
Previews. We call them
trailers in New York.
338
00:12:56,551 --> 00:12:58,351
Carrie: No, I know,
I know what they are.
339
00:12:58,353 --> 00:12:59,519
You all right?
340
00:12:59,521 --> 00:13:01,254
Yeah.
It's just weird, you know?
341
00:13:01,256 --> 00:13:03,022
One thing to
remember something,
342
00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:06,259
it's another thing to
actually see yourself.
343
00:13:06,261 --> 00:13:09,228
That girl doesn't exist anymore.
344
00:13:09,230 --> 00:13:10,796
Those were tough years,
345
00:13:10,798 --> 00:13:12,264
after Syracuse.
346
00:13:12,266 --> 00:13:15,001
Wish I'd been there to help.
347
00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:17,236
I had to learn to help myself.
348
00:13:18,605 --> 00:13:20,773
Okay, enough of this.
349
00:13:20,775 --> 00:13:23,442
What does it matter if I had
blueberries on my oatmeal
350
00:13:23,444 --> 00:13:25,911
five years, two months,
three weeks ago on a Friday?
351
00:13:25,913 --> 00:13:26,946
Come on, Carrie.
352
00:13:26,948 --> 00:13:27,947
And I didn't.
353
00:13:27,949 --> 00:13:29,148
I had bananas.
354
00:13:29,150 --> 00:13:30,483
Do you see, Gene?
355
00:13:30,485 --> 00:13:32,117
It's relentless!
It doesn't stop!
356
00:13:32,119 --> 00:13:35,187
Carrie, people like me,
our experiences,
357
00:13:35,439 --> 00:13:38,073
all our little joys,
just slip through our fingers.
358
00:13:38,075 --> 00:13:40,042
You get to hold on to them.
359
00:13:40,044 --> 00:13:41,210
You should celebrate that.
360
00:13:41,212 --> 00:13:43,412
I can't let them go!
361
00:13:43,414 --> 00:13:45,747
You keep telling me
how wonderful it is
362
00:13:45,749 --> 00:13:47,883
that I remember everything.
363
00:13:47,885 --> 00:13:50,152
I can't... forget.
364
00:13:50,154 --> 00:13:51,920
There's a difference.
365
00:13:53,723 --> 00:13:55,190
Sometimes you forget.
366
00:13:55,192 --> 00:13:56,925
- Never!
- Once.
367
00:13:56,927 --> 00:13:58,860
Your sister, Rachel.
368
00:13:58,862 --> 00:14:01,330
Would it help you
369
00:14:01,332 --> 00:14:03,065
to know why?
370
00:14:04,667 --> 00:14:06,068
Yes.
371
00:14:06,070 --> 00:14:07,736
You're all struggling.
372
00:14:07,738 --> 00:14:08,870
You know Todd?
373
00:14:08,872 --> 00:14:10,138
The loud guy.
374
00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:14,543
He likes to scramble up
big rocks without a rope.
375
00:14:14,545 --> 00:14:17,612
And beautiful, gentle Lena?
376
00:14:17,614 --> 00:14:19,014
She's seen terms of endearment,
377
00:14:19,016 --> 00:14:21,249
(chuckles):
Like, 400 times.
378
00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,451
Cries her eyes out
every single time.
379
00:14:23,453 --> 00:14:25,720
And you and Ruth,
380
00:14:25,722 --> 00:14:26,855
- you like gambling, right?
- Okay.
381
00:14:26,857 --> 00:14:29,457
- High stakes poker, Blackjack?
- Yes. So?
382
00:14:29,459 --> 00:14:32,460
So, we don't know the
science exactly yet,
383
00:14:32,462 --> 00:14:36,231
but under the influence
of intense experience,
384
00:14:36,233 --> 00:14:38,500
the brain is flooded
with adrenaline.
385
00:14:38,502 --> 00:14:41,703
That's a key building
block of memory.
386
00:14:41,705 --> 00:14:44,172
Too much adrenaline...
387
00:14:44,174 --> 00:14:46,941
It erases memory.
388
00:14:46,943 --> 00:14:49,611
There's a name for it:
Psychogenic amnesia.
389
00:14:49,613 --> 00:14:51,646
Kind of like a memory hole?
390
00:14:51,648 --> 00:14:53,448
Exactly.
391
00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:55,750
Jumping off Bridges
on a bungee cord,
392
00:14:55,752 --> 00:15:00,588
betting the house on red 22...
393
00:15:00,590 --> 00:15:02,724
the death of a loved one...
394
00:15:04,927 --> 00:15:06,794
The most loved one.
395
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,203
You memory guys are
all risk takers,
396
00:15:15,205 --> 00:15:16,404
adrenaline junkies.
397
00:15:16,406 --> 00:15:19,574
The rush engenders
398
00:15:19,576 --> 00:15:22,677
a little benign forgetting.
399
00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:25,179
So what you're saying...
400
00:15:25,181 --> 00:15:28,916
I'm saying you're
okay, Carrie Wells.
401
00:15:28,918 --> 00:15:32,553
But listen, if in
your leisure hours
402
00:15:32,555 --> 00:15:34,155
you're planning
to play with fire,
403
00:15:34,157 --> 00:15:36,290
just do me a favor, huh?
404
00:15:38,093 --> 00:15:39,460
Don't get burned?
405
00:15:39,462 --> 00:15:40,962
Don't get caught.
406
00:15:40,964 --> 00:15:42,596
(Laughs)
407
00:15:46,702 --> 00:15:48,736
Hey, Carrie,
408
00:15:48,738 --> 00:15:51,272
you got any idea why
409
00:15:51,274 --> 00:15:53,908
Alwyn would have been tracking
your old memory jocks?
410
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:55,376
I followed up on
411
00:15:55,378 --> 00:15:56,444
all those phone records,
412
00:15:56,446 --> 00:15:58,712
and in the days after
she stole the tapes,
413
00:15:58,714 --> 00:16:03,184
Alwyn contacted Todd Blasingame,
Ruth Meaney and Dale Parsons.
414
00:16:03,186 --> 00:16:05,452
All participants in
your study with Lustig, right?
415
00:16:05,454 --> 00:16:07,521
I don't know why she didn't call
the other three.
416
00:16:07,523 --> 00:16:10,224
Well, Lena committed suicide
a year after the memory study,
417
00:16:10,226 --> 00:16:12,526
Tomas moved to Korea to study
418
00:16:12,528 --> 00:16:13,827
being a Buddhist monk.
419
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:14,828
Still leaves you.
420
00:16:14,830 --> 00:16:16,030
Maybe she did call.
421
00:16:16,032 --> 00:16:18,098
Your old number in Syracuse.
422
00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:19,633
By now, it would be
assigned to someone else.
423
00:16:19,635 --> 00:16:21,068
The question is: Why?
424
00:16:21,070 --> 00:16:22,636
Why did she call?
425
00:16:22,638 --> 00:16:25,105
We got to talk to them.
426
00:16:25,107 --> 00:16:26,006
Stay on those tapes.
427
00:16:26,008 --> 00:16:27,307
I got a feeling we find out
428
00:16:27,309 --> 00:16:29,276
what Alwyn was looking for,
we find our killer.
429
00:16:30,812 --> 00:16:32,279
Woman:
Hi. May I help you?
430
00:16:32,281 --> 00:16:34,648
Yeah, we're here
to see Dale Parsons.
431
00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:36,683
Woman: Oh, he's actually busy
with a client right now.
432
00:16:36,685 --> 00:16:37,851
With you in a sec, Carrie.
433
00:16:37,853 --> 00:16:39,820
Haven't seen this guy
in nine years?
434
00:16:39,822 --> 00:16:42,890
That's why it's called
"highly superior memory," Al.
435
00:16:42,892 --> 00:16:43,924
Parsons:
Sorry.
436
00:16:43,926 --> 00:16:45,259
Got a bear of an audit.
437
00:16:45,261 --> 00:16:46,960
Some clients,
they just never learn.
438
00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:48,762
Carrie Wells.
439
00:16:48,764 --> 00:16:49,930
Love your new look.
440
00:16:49,932 --> 00:16:51,832
So... unencumbered.
441
00:16:52,767 --> 00:16:53,800
Dale Parsons.
442
00:16:53,802 --> 00:16:55,068
Al Burns, NYPD.
443
00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:56,603
Ah, you're here about Alwyn.
444
00:16:57,305 --> 00:16:58,505
- Gene, too.
- So sad.
445
00:16:58,507 --> 00:17:00,907
But I-I read that
that was a suicide.
446
00:17:00,909 --> 00:17:02,776
Do you think
that they're connected?
447
00:17:02,778 --> 00:17:05,145
You know, she called me
last Monday.
448
00:17:05,147 --> 00:17:06,413
Really? What did she want?
449
00:17:06,415 --> 00:17:09,950
She tried to recruit me
for some follow-up HSAM study.
450
00:17:09,952 --> 00:17:12,118
Chance to make a name
for herself,
451
00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:13,453
I suppose.
452
00:17:13,455 --> 00:17:15,422
She was always
pretty ambitious, Alwyn.
453
00:17:15,424 --> 00:17:17,557
I mean, even as a grad student.
454
00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:20,060
Remember, Carrie, when she asked
Lustig if she could sit in
455
00:17:20,062 --> 00:17:22,128
on Ruth Meaney's
second interview?
456
00:17:22,130 --> 00:17:23,463
Yeah, how could I forget?
457
00:17:23,465 --> 00:17:24,497
January 19, 2004.
458
00:17:24,499 --> 00:17:25,865
It was Monday.
459
00:17:25,867 --> 00:17:26,967
Around 11:15.
460
00:17:26,969 --> 00:17:28,568
11:16.
461
00:17:28,570 --> 00:17:30,103
Fifteen.
462
00:17:30,105 --> 00:17:31,871
(Clears throat) If you say so.
463
00:17:31,873 --> 00:17:33,306
I do.
464
00:17:33,308 --> 00:17:37,610
So, Alwyn...
what'd you tell her?
465
00:17:37,612 --> 00:17:39,579
Well, I said,
"Please, get back in a room
466
00:17:39,581 --> 00:17:40,547
with those lemon heads?"
467
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:41,748
Who you calling
a lemon head, Dale?
468
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:44,017
Who's got time, anyway?
469
00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:45,318
Did Professor Pierce talk about
470
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,753
her relationship
with Dr. Lustig?
471
00:17:46,755 --> 00:17:47,720
Not a word.
472
00:17:47,722 --> 00:17:48,736
She just said
that she was trying
473
00:17:48,856 --> 00:17:50,636
to update an earlier study.
474
00:17:50,756 --> 00:17:53,226
And like I said, I told her
thanks, but no thanks.
475
00:17:53,228 --> 00:17:55,428
I'd say, "Call if you remember
anything else,"
476
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:56,963
but I've learned
there's no point.
477
00:17:56,965 --> 00:17:58,264
(Chuckles)
478
00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:00,233
It's good to see you again,
Carrie, and a pleasure
479
00:18:00,235 --> 00:18:02,368
to meet you, Al,
but I must say,
480
00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:04,404
you're not exactly
as Carrie described you.
481
00:18:04,406 --> 00:18:06,239
Mary, can you give me a hand
with the Elderton?
482
00:18:06,241 --> 00:18:09,042
So how is it I came up
in your memory study?
483
00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:11,277
Gene wanted us
to deal with some memories
484
00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:12,578
accompanied by strong emotions.
485
00:18:12,580 --> 00:18:14,680
And how exactly
did you describe me?
486
00:18:14,682 --> 00:18:17,116
Well, I'm not really sure.
487
00:18:17,118 --> 00:18:18,551
You don't remember?
488
00:18:18,553 --> 00:18:20,219
All right, fine.
489
00:18:20,221 --> 00:18:22,655
I may have given you...
490
00:18:22,657 --> 00:18:25,391
a lisp, a wandering eye
and really bad dandruff.
491
00:18:25,393 --> 00:18:27,426
But we had broken up,
and I was mad.
492
00:18:27,428 --> 00:18:29,862
Nice.
493
00:18:29,864 --> 00:18:31,564
Let's go, lemon head.
494
00:18:31,566 --> 00:18:33,532
Hey, Vita Club Members,
Todd Blasingame coming at you
495
00:18:33,534 --> 00:18:36,769
from beautiful, beautiful
San Marco Key.
496
00:18:36,771 --> 00:18:39,939
Now, did you know my limited
production memory serum contains
497
00:18:39,941 --> 00:18:41,307
the fermented extracts
498
00:18:41,309 --> 00:18:43,976
of over 38 tropical fruits
and berries?
499
00:18:43,978 --> 00:18:46,445
Man: Cut! All right, guys, let's
reset it back to one. (Bell ringing)
500
00:18:46,447 --> 00:18:48,013
Lauren, honey,
I'm gonna need a touch-up.
501
00:18:48,015 --> 00:18:49,081
I'm sorry.
502
00:18:49,083 --> 00:18:50,816
So you were asking me
about poor Alwyn Pierce.
503
00:18:50,818 --> 00:18:52,852
Yeah. Did you speak with her
in the last week?
504
00:18:52,854 --> 00:18:55,020
No, but I saw her name
on my call list.
505
00:18:55,022 --> 00:18:56,856
Hundred calls a day,
can't return them all.
506
00:18:56,858 --> 00:18:59,058
Hmm. Any idea why
she was calling?
507
00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:00,426
Thanks, hon. I'm good.
508
00:19:00,428 --> 00:19:02,261
Not a clue.
509
00:19:02,263 --> 00:19:04,263
Go ahead.
510
00:19:04,265 --> 00:19:06,465
- Hit me.
- Hit you?
511
00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:07,633
Yeah, you know,
with the question.
512
00:19:07,635 --> 00:19:09,635
You know, where was I
the night of blah-blah-blah?
513
00:19:09,637 --> 00:19:11,870
Okay. Monday morning,
Tuesday night,
514
00:19:11,872 --> 00:19:13,272
where were you,
Mr. Blasingame?
515
00:19:13,274 --> 00:19:14,873
Call me Todd.
516
00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:15,975
Norway.
517
00:19:15,977 --> 00:19:17,509
You were in Norway?
518
00:19:17,511 --> 00:19:19,278
Just got back this morning.
519
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,046
Have you ever
heard of Trollveggen?
520
00:19:21,048 --> 00:19:22,548
3,600-foot
521
00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:23,982
vertical cliff.
522
00:19:23,984 --> 00:19:25,617
(Laughs) Outstanding!
523
00:19:25,619 --> 00:19:26,952
I base-jumped it. (Whistles)
524
00:19:26,954 --> 00:19:29,655
So when's the last time
you saw Dr. Lustig?
525
00:19:29,657 --> 00:19:31,890
February 17, 2009. Tuesday.
526
00:19:31,892 --> 00:19:33,258
That was the day I settled
527
00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:34,993
that little nuisance lawsuit
he cooked up.
528
00:19:34,995 --> 00:19:36,862
Hmm, he didn't want you
using his name
529
00:19:36,864 --> 00:19:38,530
in promotion for
your memory products.
530
00:19:38,532 --> 00:19:40,499
Jay:
$500,000 in punitive
531
00:19:40,501 --> 00:19:42,801
and lawyer fees,
Mr. Blasing...
532
00:19:42,803 --> 00:19:45,037
Sorry. Todd.
533
00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:46,672
Weren't you even
a little upset?
534
00:19:46,674 --> 00:19:48,607
(Giggles)
535
00:19:48,609 --> 00:19:49,886
You see that?
536
00:19:50,006 --> 00:19:52,544
And I'm not talking
about the beauties.
537
00:19:52,546 --> 00:19:54,913
This uses your
body's own energy
538
00:19:54,915 --> 00:19:56,915
to locate areas
that are stressed.
539
00:19:56,917 --> 00:19:59,551
This little puppy has
already made me three mil,
540
00:19:59,553 --> 00:20:01,553
and I haven't even
shipped a one of 'em.
541
00:20:01,555 --> 00:20:02,888
I don't think
I'm upset at anyone.
542
00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:04,689
Man: Okay, Todd, let's get another one.
Thank you.
543
00:20:04,691 --> 00:20:07,125
You know, I am starting
to understand why
544
00:20:07,127 --> 00:20:09,227
Carrie didn't stay in touch
with these memory folks.
545
00:20:09,229 --> 00:20:11,096
Yeah, you hold on
to everything long enough,
546
00:20:11,098 --> 00:20:13,532
it's easy to forget
anyone else is out there.
547
00:20:13,534 --> 00:20:16,167
From Mr. Blasingame,
with his compliments.
548
00:20:19,705 --> 00:20:21,840
TV announcer:
And they're heading to the gates
549
00:20:21,842 --> 00:20:23,508
for race number six.
550
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:24,643
Number three horse...
551
00:20:24,645 --> 00:20:27,112
Carrie Wells,
as I live and drink.
552
00:20:27,114 --> 00:20:28,780
Ruth Meaney.
553
00:20:28,782 --> 00:20:32,250
Number seven, Rosso Brew,
with jockey Juan Marquez...
554
00:20:32,252 --> 00:20:35,954
Whatever happened to Blackjack?
555
00:20:35,956 --> 00:20:37,288
Are you kidding?
556
00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:39,090
My picture's up in every casino
557
00:20:39,092 --> 00:20:40,458
all across the country.
(Chuckles)
558
00:20:40,460 --> 00:20:41,559
There they go.
559
00:20:41,561 --> 00:20:43,728
And it's Vital Jack
down the inside...
560
00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:45,263
Who you got?
561
00:20:45,265 --> 00:20:46,931
Claire's Knee, number six.
562
00:20:46,933 --> 00:20:49,734
I got no memory edge
for the ponies.
563
00:20:49,736 --> 00:20:53,338
And so what
if he ran 2:11 in the mud
564
00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:55,073
a year ago Tuesday?
565
00:20:55,075 --> 00:20:56,975
Look at him now.
566
00:20:58,444 --> 00:21:02,146
With all the booze and dope
I've sucked up,
567
00:21:02,148 --> 00:21:05,717
you'd think I'd be brain-dead.
568
00:21:05,719 --> 00:21:07,618
No such luck.
569
00:21:07,620 --> 00:21:10,321
Rosso Brew and Vital Jack
are battling it out!
570
00:21:10,323 --> 00:21:11,889
And it is Vital Jack...
571
00:21:11,891 --> 00:21:12,957
Run, you schmuck.
572
00:21:12,959 --> 00:21:14,659
(Patrons murmuring excitedly)
573
00:21:17,963 --> 00:21:20,097
Did you hear about Alwyn?
574
00:21:20,966 --> 00:21:22,967
I'm afraid so, yeah.
575
00:21:22,969 --> 00:21:24,435
Come on.
576
00:21:24,437 --> 00:21:28,005
She claimed
Lustig goosed the results
577
00:21:28,007 --> 00:21:29,774
of the memory tests.
578
00:21:29,776 --> 00:21:33,711
Oh, you know, try to make it
all seem more impressive,
579
00:21:33,713 --> 00:21:36,280
make a bigger splash,
dazzle the world.
580
00:21:36,282 --> 00:21:38,049
He would never do that.
581
00:21:38,051 --> 00:21:39,417
He was a legitimate scientist.
582
00:21:39,419 --> 00:21:40,518
Well, you're telling me.
583
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,221
But Alwyn had an axe to grind.
584
00:21:44,223 --> 00:21:46,757
Now, she asked me
585
00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:50,694
if Lustig
ever put me up to lying.
586
00:21:52,097 --> 00:21:54,465
Well, did he?
587
00:21:54,467 --> 00:21:56,600
Oh, come on, no!
588
00:21:56,602 --> 00:21:57,835
(Chuckles)
589
00:21:57,837 --> 00:21:59,303
Well, Alwyn thought he did.
590
00:21:59,305 --> 00:22:02,139
Well, that-that would be crazy.
591
00:22:02,141 --> 00:22:05,109
Of course it's crazy.
592
00:22:05,111 --> 00:22:07,978
But... I guess there was someone
593
00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:11,482
who told one big old whopper.
594
00:22:11,484 --> 00:22:13,617
Someone in our group lied?
595
00:22:13,619 --> 00:22:14,818
Who?
596
00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:16,987
Alwyn wouldn't say.
597
00:22:16,989 --> 00:22:18,956
But, um...
598
00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:22,526
well, it was that
one group session we had
599
00:22:22,528 --> 00:22:24,728
is all I know.
600
00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:26,463
Thank you, Ruthie.
601
00:22:26,465 --> 00:22:30,000
You and me, Carrie,
we could break the bank.
602
00:22:30,002 --> 00:22:32,636
(Laughs):
Ooh.
603
00:22:32,638 --> 00:22:34,037
Make a hell of a team.
604
00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:36,707
Unstoppable, indestructible.
605
00:22:36,709 --> 00:22:37,674
Whoa.
606
00:22:37,676 --> 00:22:39,543
Carrie, what's up?
607
00:22:39,545 --> 00:22:42,246
We have to look
at the group session.
608
00:22:42,248 --> 00:22:43,614
What group session?
609
00:22:43,616 --> 00:22:46,083
There was only one:
January 20, all six of us.
610
00:22:46,085 --> 00:22:47,985
Lustig wanted to see
if we could influence
611
00:22:47,987 --> 00:22:49,353
each other's recollections.
612
00:22:49,355 --> 00:22:51,555
Uh, I'm not seeing it, Carrie.
613
00:22:51,557 --> 00:22:52,923
There's no tape for that day.
614
00:22:52,925 --> 00:22:54,391
Check again; There has to be.
615
00:22:54,393 --> 00:22:58,161
Nope. January 15,
January 19, January 23.
616
00:22:58,163 --> 00:22:59,629
Okay, well, I know
617
00:22:59,631 --> 00:23:03,533
there was a session on the 20th,
which means...
618
00:23:03,535 --> 00:23:05,168
someone stole that tape
619
00:23:05,170 --> 00:23:06,336
from Alwyn's apartment.
620
00:23:06,338 --> 00:23:08,138
What's so important
about that one session?
621
00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:11,608
Alwyn thought someone lied
about a memory.
622
00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:15,779
Whatever is on that tape
got her and Gene killed.
623
00:23:15,781 --> 00:23:17,914
(Tires screeching)
624
00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:20,884
Carrie, what's going on?
625
00:23:20,886 --> 00:23:22,385
Carrie?
626
00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:26,407
We got no witnesses
from the street
627
00:23:26,409 --> 00:23:27,808
or surrounding buildings.
628
00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:30,377
We're looking for footage
from secams, traffic cameras,
629
00:23:30,379 --> 00:23:32,212
anything that might
have picked up the car.
630
00:23:32,214 --> 00:23:33,847
- Thanks. Stay on it.
- Yeah.
631
00:23:33,849 --> 00:23:36,817
Eliot: So, we know this
group session was taped,
632
00:23:36,819 --> 00:23:38,986
but we don't know what's on it,
and now it's gone?
633
00:23:38,988 --> 00:23:39,987
It's not gone.
634
00:23:39,989 --> 00:23:41,622
Webster:
Hold still, please.
635
00:23:41,624 --> 00:23:44,258
My work is so much better
when my patients aren't moving.
636
00:23:44,260 --> 00:23:46,160
We have a copy here.
637
00:23:46,162 --> 00:23:47,795
Yeah, we don't need the tape.
638
00:23:47,797 --> 00:23:50,097
I got it in my memory.
639
00:23:51,866 --> 00:23:53,267
What do you need?
640
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:55,402
Uh, candles,
uh, what, some music?
641
00:23:55,404 --> 00:23:57,237
No, no, we just...
642
00:23:57,239 --> 00:23:58,939
A stenographer
and a pad of paper
643
00:23:58,941 --> 00:24:00,274
would be great.
644
00:24:00,276 --> 00:24:02,276
You know, it's not a massage,
just remembering.
645
00:24:02,278 --> 00:24:04,645
Great. We'll set you up.
646
00:24:07,015 --> 00:24:11,218
It was the first time
he put us all together...
647
00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:12,219
The only time.
648
00:24:12,221 --> 00:24:13,453
He brought us
649
00:24:13,455 --> 00:24:18,125
all in a room,
sat us in a circle.
650
00:24:18,127 --> 00:24:20,393
All right, everyone,
651
00:24:20,395 --> 00:24:21,795
I am gonna ask
about your memories...
652
00:24:21,797 --> 00:24:24,231
Carrie: And asked us about
memories from random days.
653
00:24:24,233 --> 00:24:27,334
Uh, the first one was
January 17,
654
00:24:27,336 --> 00:24:28,468
1991.
655
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:29,536
Tomas said,
656
00:24:29,538 --> 00:24:31,371
"that would've been a Thursday.
657
00:24:31,373 --> 00:24:33,740
I had a history test
and a term paper."
658
00:24:33,742 --> 00:24:35,675
Todd interrupted. It was
the start of desert storm.
659
00:24:35,677 --> 00:24:37,744
Right, I was going to say.
And, uh...
660
00:24:37,746 --> 00:24:39,746
"And I was sitting down
to study, but my mom..."
661
00:24:39,748 --> 00:24:41,815
Then Gene asked about
February 11,
662
00:24:41,817 --> 00:24:43,316
1999.
663
00:24:43,318 --> 00:24:44,651
First to Ruth.
664
00:24:44,653 --> 00:24:46,152
Right, of all days.
665
00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:47,387
- Sorry?
- Ruth said,
666
00:24:47,389 --> 00:24:48,788
"well, just 'cause
after getting killed
667
00:24:48,790 --> 00:24:50,789
on the Villanova game, which.. "
668
00:24:50,909 --> 00:24:52,408
I mean, 111 to 85.
669
00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:53,876
- Come on.
"- Come on."
670
00:24:53,878 --> 00:24:55,178
Are we talking basketball?
671
00:24:55,180 --> 00:24:56,913
"What do you think?" Ruth said.
672
00:24:56,915 --> 00:24:58,614
Boomerang chucking?
673
00:24:58,616 --> 00:24:59,982
"Yes, basketball, you egghead."
674
00:24:59,984 --> 00:25:01,150
You egghead.
675
00:25:01,152 --> 00:25:03,453
Lena, "wouldn't you know it,
they were doing
676
00:25:03,455 --> 00:25:05,088
track work
on the rock island line..."
677
00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:06,856
So I had to have Peggy
drive me in.
678
00:25:06,858 --> 00:25:08,057
Peggy?
679
00:25:08,059 --> 00:25:09,358
That's my niece.
680
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,027
- Right away, she starts coughing.
- "She starts coughing.
681
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:13,029
"So I said,
'forget Marshall field's.
682
00:25:13,031 --> 00:25:14,797
We're going straight
to Dr. Rinaldi."
683
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,432
"February 11, 1999,
684
00:25:16,434 --> 00:25:17,700
we got a call about a break-in.
685
00:25:17,702 --> 00:25:19,635
"Little two-story colonial
686
00:25:19,637 --> 00:25:21,837
with yellow trim
down on Sterling and Coolidge.
687
00:25:21,957 --> 00:25:23,406
Turns out it was a couple kids
688
00:25:23,408 --> 00:25:25,775
throwing rocks
at the basement windows."
689
00:25:25,777 --> 00:25:27,576
Blasingame, "I mean,
anybody could've told you
690
00:25:27,578 --> 00:25:29,345
the new year was gonna be soft "
691
00:25:29,347 --> 00:25:32,314
So, I turned a profit on intel
at the open at 631/8.
692
00:25:32,316 --> 00:25:33,449
"I rolled it over into..."
693
00:25:33,451 --> 00:25:35,051
June hogs.
694
00:25:35,053 --> 00:25:35,885
Then Gene asked about...
695
00:25:35,887 --> 00:25:37,653
March 6, 1997.
696
00:25:37,655 --> 00:25:39,789
Dale Parsons...
A Thursday.
697
00:25:39,791 --> 00:25:41,590
"I'd just read an article
how they're getting
698
00:25:41,592 --> 00:25:43,859
record prices at auction houses
for art."
699
00:25:43,861 --> 00:25:47,563
$68.9 million for a van Gogh.
700
00:25:47,565 --> 00:25:48,831
How is that even possible?
701
00:25:48,833 --> 00:25:50,166
"It's just paint, people.
702
00:25:50,168 --> 00:25:52,201
"And since I happened
to be two blocks from the Met,
703
00:25:52,203 --> 00:25:54,303
I go in that afternoon and ask,
'what's the most...
704
00:25:54,305 --> 00:25:55,938
expensive painting
that you have in here?'"
705
00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:57,539
Did you get an answer?
706
00:25:57,541 --> 00:25:58,841
A Vermeer.
707
00:25:58,843 --> 00:26:01,176
Uh, young woman
with a water pitcher.
708
00:26:01,178 --> 00:26:03,012
"So I went and had a look at it,
and you know what?"
709
00:26:03,014 --> 00:26:04,847
It's a young woman
with a water pitcher.
710
00:26:04,849 --> 00:26:06,582
Tomas said...
I love that painting.
711
00:26:06,584 --> 00:26:07,850
The Gene asked...
Ruth?
712
00:26:07,852 --> 00:26:09,251
I remembered to bring a sweater,
713
00:26:09,253 --> 00:26:10,519
because 1010 wins...
714
00:26:10,521 --> 00:26:11,754
"...was saying a high of 40.
715
00:26:11,756 --> 00:26:12,821
What they didn't..."
716
00:26:12,823 --> 00:26:14,690
Say, the sky was
gonna crack open.
717
00:26:14,692 --> 00:26:17,493
It was Saturday, and I'd just
gotten my first M3.
718
00:26:17,495 --> 00:26:19,328
"3.2 liter,
719
00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:21,096
"passion-red, beautiful.
720
00:26:21,098 --> 00:26:23,599
Got pinched for doing 48
in a 35 zone."
721
00:26:23,601 --> 00:26:25,567
Which I don't even
consider that speeding.
722
00:26:25,569 --> 00:26:28,070
- Gene said, "You're all amazing."
- You're all amazing.
723
00:26:28,072 --> 00:26:30,205
Uh, there's pizza
in the next room.
724
00:26:30,207 --> 00:26:31,540
For those who don't like...
725
00:26:31,542 --> 00:26:33,709
"Pepperoni,
there's ham and pineapple.
726
00:26:33,711 --> 00:26:35,377
Save me a slice."
727
00:26:35,379 --> 00:26:36,578
And...
728
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:38,213
The end?
729
00:26:38,215 --> 00:26:40,949
The end.
730
00:26:44,049 --> 00:26:45,420
Al:
Thank you.
731
00:26:45,422 --> 00:26:48,356
You okay?
732
00:26:48,358 --> 00:26:50,192
Tired, sad.
733
00:26:51,627 --> 00:26:53,795
You are amazing.
734
00:26:56,466 --> 00:26:58,767
Jay: I'm just saying,
this is a ton of memories.
735
00:26:58,769 --> 00:26:59,901
Which, incredible job,
by the way, Carrie,
736
00:26:59,903 --> 00:27:01,336
but if we're gonna
verify each one,
737
00:27:01,338 --> 00:27:02,237
it's gonna take forever.
738
00:27:02,239 --> 00:27:03,371
Al:
We know Lustig
739
00:27:03,373 --> 00:27:05,140
was able to do it.
No, he wasn't.
740
00:27:05,142 --> 00:27:06,775
He did random spot-checks.
741
00:27:06,777 --> 00:27:09,110
Yeah, see,
but then how did Alwyn do it?
742
00:27:09,112 --> 00:27:10,211
I mean, we're talking
743
00:27:10,213 --> 00:27:11,379
about random details
744
00:27:11,381 --> 00:27:12,814
about track work
on the long island railroad
745
00:27:12,816 --> 00:27:13,982
in 1988.
746
00:27:13,984 --> 00:27:16,017
The price of lamb chops, 1996.
747
00:27:16,019 --> 00:27:17,052
Fourth race at Roosevelt, 1994.
748
00:27:17,054 --> 00:27:18,720
I don't know.
749
00:27:18,722 --> 00:27:21,956
Now, maybe if she was a fan
of the trotters or something.
750
00:27:21,958 --> 00:27:23,158
Maybe she was.
751
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,794
I mean, maybe Alwyn found
an incorrect memory
752
00:27:25,796 --> 00:27:27,962
in no time at all
because it happened to be
753
00:27:27,964 --> 00:27:29,798
in an area of her expertise.
754
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,966
If it was something
that jumped out at her...
755
00:27:31,968 --> 00:27:33,835
Murray:
Money, credit cards, all here.
756
00:27:33,837 --> 00:27:35,970
No sign of forced
entry, no struggle.
757
00:27:35,972 --> 00:27:38,306
She let them in.
758
00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:41,276
Al: Yeah, that's
how I read it, too.
759
00:27:41,278 --> 00:27:42,677
Her phone shows one
45-second call...
760
00:27:42,679 --> 00:27:46,514
Traces back to a pay phone
at a gas station in Brooklyn.
761
00:27:48,183 --> 00:27:50,051
She and Lustig may
have been fighting,
762
00:27:50,053 --> 00:27:52,320
but she's got a ton
of his books here.
763
00:27:54,056 --> 00:27:56,557
Art.
764
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:57,925
Alwyn was an art lover.
765
00:27:57,927 --> 00:28:02,196
Books, museum posters... they
were all over her apartment.
766
00:28:02,198 --> 00:28:04,065
Parsons: Since I happened
to be two blocks
767
00:28:04,067 --> 00:28:06,100
from the Metropolitan Museum,
I go in that afternoon.
768
00:28:06,102 --> 00:28:09,103
Vermeer, A young woman
with a water pitcher.
769
00:28:09,105 --> 00:28:13,474
Parson said he saw a Vermeer
at the Metropolitan.
770
00:28:13,476 --> 00:28:14,842
Young woman
with a water pitcher.
771
00:28:14,844 --> 00:28:16,410
Maybe he got the museum wrong?
772
00:28:16,412 --> 00:28:17,545
Jay:
No, that painting
773
00:28:17,547 --> 00:28:18,813
was at the Met.
774
00:28:18,815 --> 00:28:19,914
My cousin Angie works there.
775
00:28:19,916 --> 00:28:21,315
It's been in the collection
for years.
776
00:28:21,317 --> 00:28:22,783
All right, call her.
777
00:28:22,785 --> 00:28:24,185
My bet is he didn't see it
778
00:28:24,187 --> 00:28:26,087
when he said he did.
March 6, 1997.
779
00:28:26,089 --> 00:28:28,222
Find out if the museum
was closed,
780
00:28:28,224 --> 00:28:29,824
having a private event,
something,
781
00:28:29,826 --> 00:28:30,791
anything.
782
00:28:30,793 --> 00:28:32,059
Hey, Ange, it's me.
783
00:28:32,061 --> 00:28:33,160
You by a computer?
784
00:28:33,162 --> 00:28:34,729
What if Parsons
just got it wrong?
785
00:28:34,731 --> 00:28:36,197
People make mistakes.
No one bats a thousand.
786
00:28:36,199 --> 00:28:37,398
Parsons does.
787
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,567
He scored highest
on all of the objective tests.
788
00:28:39,569 --> 00:28:40,701
He beat me.
789
00:28:40,703 --> 00:28:42,736
If he got it wrong,
790
00:28:42,738 --> 00:28:43,675
he's lying.
791
00:28:43,795 --> 00:28:45,539
You rock, Ange. Yep.
792
00:28:45,541 --> 00:28:47,650
March 6, 1997.
793
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:49,577
Young woman
with a water pitcher
794
00:28:49,579 --> 00:28:51,478
was on loan to the Prado Museum
in Madrid.
795
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,713
No way Parsons could've seen it.
796
00:28:52,715 --> 00:28:53,881
He is lying.
797
00:28:53,883 --> 00:28:55,149
And whatever he did that day,
798
00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:56,317
he wants to keep it secret.
799
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:57,869
He'll kill to keep it secret.
800
00:28:57,989 --> 00:28:58,549
Uh-huh
801
00:28:58,669 --> 00:29:00,078
Jay, check the
crime's database.
802
00:29:00,198 --> 00:29:01,655
March 6, 1997.
803
00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:02,956
Unsolved murders, anything.
804
00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:04,625
Okay, here we go.
805
00:29:04,627 --> 00:29:07,461
Let's look at
the whole tristate area
806
00:29:07,463 --> 00:29:09,563
and unsolved murders.
807
00:29:09,565 --> 00:29:11,331
Widening the jurisdiction.
Got it.
808
00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:14,168
Four unsolved murders
March 6, 1997.
809
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:16,336
Now, assuming for the moment
that we're not looking
810
00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:18,739
at a gang-related homicide,
that narrows it down to...
811
00:29:18,741 --> 00:29:21,542
Valerie Johnson, age 21,
CUNY student,
812
00:29:21,544 --> 00:29:23,710
found dead in her car
in Farmingdale.
813
00:29:23,712 --> 00:29:26,013
Strangled with clothesline.
814
00:29:29,784 --> 00:29:31,852
Thanks for meeting me, Dale.
815
00:29:31,854 --> 00:29:33,987
If anyone can help us
with this thing, it's you.
816
00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:36,223
No problem. I got a client
right around the corner,
817
00:29:36,225 --> 00:29:39,359
but I think I already told you
everything that I know.
818
00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:41,261
Well, maybe I can learn more
819
00:29:41,263 --> 00:29:43,530
by picking that
extraordinary brain of yours.
820
00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:46,867
Well, you will certainly
learn something.
821
00:29:46,869 --> 00:29:51,238
But probably not about
what you want to know.
822
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,874
March 6, 1997.
823
00:29:53,876 --> 00:29:55,175
Thursday.
824
00:29:55,177 --> 00:29:56,309
Yes, it was.
825
00:29:56,311 --> 00:29:58,778
What were you doing
that afternoon?
826
00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:01,314
Oh, God, you sound like Lustig.
827
00:30:01,671 --> 00:30:03,280
I thought this was about Alwyn.
828
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,385
Well, it is, indirectly.
829
00:30:05,387 --> 00:30:07,787
See, I know what I was doing
that afternoon.
830
00:30:07,789 --> 00:30:11,391
I was buying socks and underwear
at the Syracuse Dress Barn,
831
00:30:11,393 --> 00:30:15,261
which is not the most exciting
or sexy thing in the world,
832
00:30:15,263 --> 00:30:16,730
but at least it's true.
833
00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:18,331
It's not like
834
00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:22,702
the Syracuse Dress Barn
just moved to Madrid.
835
00:30:23,604 --> 00:30:25,705
I'm sorry,
what was the question again?
836
00:30:25,707 --> 00:30:27,474
March 6, 1997.
837
00:30:27,476 --> 00:30:28,942
- You told our group...
- I'm kidding.
838
00:30:28,944 --> 00:30:30,977
- That you were at the Metropolitan...
- Oh, group session, boring.
839
00:30:30,979 --> 00:30:32,779
Seeing a painting by Vermeer.
840
00:30:32,781 --> 00:30:35,682
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
841
00:30:35,684 --> 00:30:37,650
Wow, is that what you remember?
842
00:30:37,652 --> 00:30:38,785
Uh-huh.
843
00:30:38,787 --> 00:30:40,353
Sorry. (Imitates buzzer)
844
00:30:40,355 --> 00:30:42,989
No, Carrie,
on Thursday afternoon, March 6,
845
00:30:42,991 --> 00:30:46,659
I was at the 1:45 P.M. screening
of Donnie Brasco
846
00:30:46,661 --> 00:30:47,660
at Lincoln Square Cinema.
847
00:30:47,662 --> 00:30:49,262
Afterwards, I had
Sushi at Lenge.
848
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,697
By the time I was finished,
849
00:30:50,699 --> 00:30:52,465
I would've had exactly
nine minutes
850
00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:54,834
to get across town to the Met
before it closed.
851
00:30:54,836 --> 00:30:56,602
So how could I have seen
a Vermeer?
852
00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:58,704
P.S. I don't even like Vermeer.
853
00:30:58,706 --> 00:31:01,073
You said you saw the painting.
854
00:31:01,075 --> 00:31:03,609
It's your memory against mine.
855
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:05,077
What about the tapes?
856
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:06,579
Great, check the tape.
857
00:31:06,581 --> 00:31:07,880
You'll see that I am right.
858
00:31:07,882 --> 00:31:11,050
I could always ask Todd, Ruthie.
859
00:31:11,052 --> 00:31:12,184
Sure, ask them.
860
00:31:12,186 --> 00:31:13,486
But why bother?
861
00:31:13,488 --> 00:31:15,688
You have the tape, don't you?
862
00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:18,057
Don't you?
863
00:31:21,161 --> 00:31:23,896
(Sighs)
It's just you against me.
864
00:31:23,898 --> 00:31:25,531
I wouldn't take those odds,
865
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:28,601
but you're the gambling gal,
right?
866
00:31:31,938 --> 00:31:33,406
Are we done?
867
00:31:33,408 --> 00:31:34,974
One more thing, actually.
868
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:37,409
A little picture for you.
869
00:31:39,546 --> 00:31:41,313
Valerie Johnson.
Remember her?
870
00:31:41,315 --> 00:31:43,048
She was a client of yours.
871
00:31:43,050 --> 00:31:45,017
Indeed she was.
872
00:31:45,019 --> 00:31:46,830
I did her taxes for 1996.
873
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:48,050
Adjusted gross,
874
00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:51,023
$21,380, total take-home,
875
00:31:51,025 --> 00:31:52,224
$25,300.
876
00:31:52,226 --> 00:31:54,727
- She got a $408 refund.
- You ever take her home, Dale?
877
00:31:56,529 --> 00:31:59,999
I think I liked you better
when you were miserable.
878
00:32:02,335 --> 00:32:03,802
Al:
All right.
879
00:32:03,804 --> 00:32:06,105
Thank you.
880
00:32:06,107 --> 00:32:07,706
That was Murray.
881
00:32:07,708 --> 00:32:10,509
She found three more cases,
same M.O.
882
00:32:10,511 --> 00:32:12,711
Young women strangled
with clothesline.
883
00:32:12,713 --> 00:32:15,214
Poughkeepsie; Binghamton;
Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
884
00:32:15,216 --> 00:32:17,449
Each murder corresponds
with an audit
885
00:32:17,451 --> 00:32:19,685
Dale Parsons attended
on behalf of clients.
886
00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:22,788
Valerie Johnson
wasn't his only victim.
887
00:32:22,790 --> 00:32:24,990
He's a serial killer.
888
00:32:28,510 --> 00:32:31,025
I still don't get it.
Parsons kills these women,
889
00:32:31,145 --> 00:32:32,225
doesn't leave a trace,
890
00:32:32,345 --> 00:32:33,868
but then makes up a bogus alibi,
891
00:32:33,988 --> 00:32:36,215
knowing Lustig could find out
and challenge him?
892
00:32:36,217 --> 00:32:37,850
It was seven years later.
893
00:32:37,852 --> 00:32:39,652
Gene was picking random days.
894
00:32:39,654 --> 00:32:41,086
Dale wasn't expecting
him to ask
895
00:32:41,088 --> 00:32:43,088
about that one day,
so he panics,
896
00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:44,890
and he lies.
897
00:32:44,892 --> 00:32:46,458
So based on IRS returns
898
00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,160
where Parsons signed on
as the responsible accountant,
899
00:32:48,162 --> 00:32:49,528
we could be up to eight victims.
900
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:51,063
Oh, my God.
If he consulted,
901
00:32:51,065 --> 00:32:52,631
gave investment advice
to other women,
902
00:32:52,633 --> 00:32:53,832
who knows how many he killed?
903
00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:55,567
What the hell are you drinking?
Mm.
904
00:32:56,436 --> 00:32:57,903
Blasingame's memory juice.
905
00:32:57,905 --> 00:32:59,104
You know, I hate to admit it,
906
00:32:59,106 --> 00:33:00,405
but I think the guy's
onto something.
907
00:33:00,407 --> 00:33:02,207
I read his book.
He caught a rattlesnake
908
00:33:02,209 --> 00:33:03,742
with his bare hands
in death valley.
909
00:33:03,744 --> 00:33:05,110
Guy's a total adrenaline junkie.
910
00:33:05,912 --> 00:33:07,179
Lustig:
You memory guys
911
00:33:07,181 --> 00:33:09,047
are all risk takers.
912
00:33:09,049 --> 00:33:10,682
Adrenaline junkies.
913
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,951
The rush engenders...
914
00:33:12,953 --> 00:33:15,087
A little benign forgetting.
915
00:33:15,089 --> 00:33:18,056
What time of day
was Valerie Johnson murdered?
916
00:33:18,058 --> 00:33:19,558
It was morning sometime.
917
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,260
She was on her way to school,
so 8:00, 8:30.
918
00:33:22,262 --> 00:33:24,463
We've got to bring
Dale Parsons in.
919
00:33:24,465 --> 00:33:26,298
We don't have enough
to arrest him.
920
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:27,666
Can't lock a guy up for lying.
921
00:33:27,668 --> 00:33:30,435
He wasn't lying.
922
00:33:36,576 --> 00:33:38,577
- Hey, Dale.
- Hello.
923
00:33:38,579 --> 00:33:39,744
Thanks for coming in.
924
00:33:39,746 --> 00:33:41,980
Never been in an actual
interrogation room.
925
00:33:41,982 --> 00:33:43,748
(Laughs) It's cozy.
926
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:45,083
And an audience.
927
00:33:45,085 --> 00:33:46,384
Hello, people.
928
00:33:46,386 --> 00:33:48,653
So, what happens now?
929
00:33:48,655 --> 00:33:50,555
You break me?
930
00:33:50,557 --> 00:33:52,190
No.
931
00:33:52,192 --> 00:33:54,993
This is just a conversation,
friendly conversation, Dale.
932
00:33:54,995 --> 00:33:56,094
So I won't need, say, a lawyer?
933
00:33:56,096 --> 00:33:58,196
Why would you need a lawyer?
934
00:33:58,198 --> 00:33:59,397
You're Dale Parsons.
935
00:33:59,399 --> 00:34:00,832
True.
936
00:34:00,834 --> 00:34:02,934
Okay, friendly
conversation, then.
937
00:34:02,936 --> 00:34:05,003
Just, let's not play
the day and date game.
938
00:34:05,005 --> 00:34:06,705
So does that mean
I can't ask you
939
00:34:06,707 --> 00:34:08,907
about July 12, 1999,
940
00:34:08,909 --> 00:34:10,875
August 27, 2003,
941
00:34:10,877 --> 00:34:12,544
October 11, 2008...
942
00:34:12,546 --> 00:34:14,379
Which were a Monday,
a Wednesday and a Saturday.
943
00:34:14,381 --> 00:34:15,713
- Very nice.
- Right?
944
00:34:15,715 --> 00:34:16,848
Yes, they were.
945
00:34:16,850 --> 00:34:18,116
You're good.
946
00:34:18,118 --> 00:34:19,784
You know what happened
on those days?
947
00:34:19,786 --> 00:34:22,120
You promised.
948
00:34:22,122 --> 00:34:23,555
Fine, why don't I tell you
949
00:34:23,557 --> 00:34:24,856
what happened on those days.
950
00:34:24,858 --> 00:34:28,192
July 12, 1999.
951
00:34:28,194 --> 00:34:30,194
Tina Davis, murdered.
952
00:34:30,196 --> 00:34:32,297
Strangled to death in her car.
953
00:34:32,299 --> 00:34:36,100
August 27, 2003.
954
00:34:36,102 --> 00:34:38,936
Lakshmi Patel, also murdered.
955
00:34:38,938 --> 00:34:41,339
October 11, 2008.
956
00:34:41,341 --> 00:34:42,507
Gloria Durning.
957
00:34:42,509 --> 00:34:43,541
Same M.O.
958
00:34:43,543 --> 00:34:46,043
All of these young
women murdered.
959
00:34:46,045 --> 00:34:47,712
You know any of them?
960
00:34:47,714 --> 00:34:48,713
You're accusing me.
961
00:34:48,715 --> 00:34:49,947
No.
962
00:34:49,949 --> 00:34:51,382
No, I'm asking you.
963
00:34:51,384 --> 00:34:53,151
- Now I do need a lawyer.
- You only need a lawyer
964
00:34:53,153 --> 00:34:54,452
if you've done something wrong.
965
00:34:54,454 --> 00:34:57,521
Besides, you're smarter
than any lawyer I know.
966
00:34:59,725 --> 00:35:01,459
I don't know them.
967
00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:04,428
Don't remember them?
968
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:06,464
(Scoffs)
969
00:35:06,466 --> 00:35:07,565
Excuse me?
970
00:35:07,567 --> 00:35:09,500
Don't remember killing them?
971
00:35:12,633 --> 00:35:16,491
You know, despite his terrible jokes,
Gene Lustig was one of
972
00:35:16,611 --> 00:35:18,730
the smartest men I ever met.
973
00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:21,112
And he said something to me
once, and it helped me a lot.
974
00:35:21,114 --> 00:35:24,081
He said that people like us,
975
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:26,083
sometimes we need a vacation.
976
00:35:26,085 --> 00:35:28,319
You know, from all
the stuff in our heads.
977
00:35:28,321 --> 00:35:29,386
You more than anyone,
978
00:35:29,388 --> 00:35:31,155
because you were always
the best of us.
979
00:35:31,157 --> 00:35:32,723
You admit it.
980
00:35:32,725 --> 00:35:33,757
(Chuckles)
981
00:35:33,759 --> 00:35:37,027
So you want to know
what the secret is?
982
00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:40,931
Adrenaline.
983
00:35:42,734 --> 00:35:43,834
We crave it.
984
00:35:43,836 --> 00:35:46,203
But not for the rush,
not for the high.
985
00:35:46,205 --> 00:35:47,404
That's for other people.
986
00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:51,008
We crave it for
the rest it gives us.
987
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,444
From ourselves.
988
00:35:56,147 --> 00:35:58,282
Where were you...
989
00:35:58,284 --> 00:36:00,284
the morning Gene was murdered?
990
00:36:00,286 --> 00:36:02,719
I was at home, asleep.
991
00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:04,421
Okay.
What time did you wake up?
992
00:36:04,423 --> 00:36:05,789
6:45. It's my usual hour.
993
00:36:05,791 --> 00:36:07,424
It's when I take the dogs out.
994
00:36:07,426 --> 00:36:08,525
Oh.
995
00:36:08,527 --> 00:36:09,660
Anyone see you?
996
00:36:09,662 --> 00:36:12,029
I have no idea.
997
00:36:13,598 --> 00:36:16,633
Middle of a rainstorm:
odd time to walk the dogs.
998
00:36:17,468 --> 00:36:18,969
They don't mind the rain.
999
00:36:18,971 --> 00:36:20,671
Thunder must have
bothered them, no?
1000
00:36:20,673 --> 00:36:24,975
It did, but hey,
when you got to go,
1001
00:36:24,977 --> 00:36:26,243
- you got to go.
- Mm.
1002
00:36:26,245 --> 00:36:28,779
Speaking of which,
if we're done here...
1003
00:36:28,781 --> 00:36:31,047
There was no storm the morning
1004
00:36:31,049 --> 00:36:32,616
Gene Lustig was murdered.
1005
00:36:32,618 --> 00:36:34,017
No rain.
1006
00:36:34,019 --> 00:36:35,218
No thunder.
1007
00:36:41,893 --> 00:36:44,861
I'll lay it out for you.
1008
00:36:44,863 --> 00:36:46,630
See, I thought you lied
1009
00:36:46,632 --> 00:36:48,276
about the Vermeer to
cover up where you were
1010
00:36:48,396 --> 00:36:49,719
when you killed
Valerie Johnson.
1011
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:51,148
But she was murdered
in the morning.
1012
00:36:51,548 --> 00:36:53,837
And you said you were went
to the met in the afternoon,
1013
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:56,539
so I thought to
myself... why lie?
1014
00:36:56,541 --> 00:36:59,843
Why make up an alibi
you don't need?
1015
00:36:59,845 --> 00:37:03,580
But you weren't lying,
were you?
1016
00:37:03,582 --> 00:37:04,781
You forgot.
1017
00:37:04,783 --> 00:37:07,117
Because when you murder people,
1018
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,919
like these young women,
you forget.
1019
00:37:09,921 --> 00:37:10,920
That's why you do it.
1020
00:37:10,922 --> 00:37:12,155
Not Gene and Alwyn.
1021
00:37:12,157 --> 00:37:13,623
You killed them
to cover your tracks.
1022
00:37:13,625 --> 00:37:15,592
But I bet you don't remember
1023
00:37:15,594 --> 00:37:17,594
what happened afterwards,
do you?
1024
00:37:17,596 --> 00:37:19,963
You have no idea
what you're talking about.
1025
00:37:19,965 --> 00:37:21,130
Yes, I do.
1026
00:37:21,132 --> 00:37:24,100
You know I do.
1027
00:37:24,102 --> 00:37:28,237
The adrenaline unleashed
by the act of violence
1028
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,807
helps you to forget
your painful life.
1029
00:37:30,809 --> 00:37:32,108
No, you're... you are wrong.
1030
00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:33,476
Which becomes more miserable
1031
00:37:33,478 --> 00:37:35,244
when you finally, inevitably, no.
No, that is...
1032
00:37:35,246 --> 00:37:36,245
Remember what you've done.
1033
00:37:36,247 --> 00:37:37,447
And then you kill again.
1034
00:37:37,449 --> 00:37:39,182
To forget, again.
1035
00:37:39,184 --> 00:37:41,250
You're an addict, Dale.
1036
00:37:43,153 --> 00:37:45,588
You're addicted to murder.
1037
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:47,857
You don't understand.
1038
00:37:47,859 --> 00:37:50,660
Of course I understand.
1039
00:37:50,662 --> 00:37:52,828
I'm the only one who does.
1040
00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:59,302
How long do you get?
1041
00:37:59,304 --> 00:38:01,304
A few minutes?
1042
00:38:01,306 --> 00:38:02,672
A few hours, a whole day?
1043
00:38:02,674 --> 00:38:03,873
How long?
1044
00:38:08,945 --> 00:38:11,080
Sometimes more than a day.
1045
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:16,252
The first time...
1046
00:38:16,254 --> 00:38:19,355
it was a cat.
1047
00:38:19,357 --> 00:38:21,423
It was a stupid
neighborhood cat,
1048
00:38:21,425 --> 00:38:23,492
and he kept howling and howling.
1049
00:38:23,494 --> 00:38:26,529
And when I put my fingers
around its neck,
1050
00:38:26,531 --> 00:38:29,999
and I squeezed...
1051
00:38:30,001 --> 00:38:33,202
it was like I was here...
1052
00:38:33,204 --> 00:38:36,805
for the first time.
1053
00:38:36,807 --> 00:38:38,407
Just here, now.
1054
00:38:38,409 --> 00:38:42,011
Not five minutes ago,
not 20 minutes ago,
1055
00:38:42,013 --> 00:38:43,979
not 20 years ago,
1056
00:38:43,981 --> 00:38:46,849
when my father did those things,
1057
00:38:46,851 --> 00:38:50,419
and when those boys
did those things,
1058
00:38:50,421 --> 00:38:52,488
because I was different.
1059
00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:54,990
Because I was the one
who was always telling them
1060
00:38:54,992 --> 00:38:58,193
that they were wrong,
because they were always wrong.
1061
00:38:58,195 --> 00:38:59,928
They never remembered
1062
00:38:59,930 --> 00:39:02,564
anything.
1063
00:39:02,566 --> 00:39:06,068
And Valerie...
1064
00:39:09,906 --> 00:39:12,274
The last thing I remember
1065
00:39:12,276 --> 00:39:16,044
was the light
fading from her eyes
1066
00:39:16,046 --> 00:39:19,648
like a torch down a well.
1067
00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:23,018
And then it was a miracle.
1068
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:28,123
It was a whole, long,
blissful day of peace.
1069
00:39:30,793 --> 00:39:32,961
At least I think it was.
1070
00:39:35,198 --> 00:39:37,399
I don't remember.
1071
00:39:40,541 --> 00:39:42,255
"Peace"?
1072
00:39:47,076 --> 00:39:48,543
I want you
1073
00:39:48,545 --> 00:39:52,280
to look at these women.
1074
00:39:52,282 --> 00:39:55,183
I want you to study
their faces.
1075
00:39:58,187 --> 00:40:02,257
I want you... to remember them.
1076
00:40:04,593 --> 00:40:08,930
Because from now on,
forgetting is not an option.
1077
00:40:28,784 --> 00:40:30,118
Nice work.
1078
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,486
That was amazing.
1079
00:40:52,307 --> 00:40:54,141
There you are.
1080
00:40:54,143 --> 00:40:57,445
Carrie Wells, on behalf of
the memory studies group,
1081
00:40:57,447 --> 00:40:59,547
it gives me great pleasure
1082
00:40:59,549 --> 00:41:03,351
to present you with
this check for $100 U.S.
1083
00:41:03,353 --> 00:41:05,386
Wow, Gene, $100.
1084
00:41:05,388 --> 00:41:06,487
(Both laugh)
1085
00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:10,224
Along with an infinite
amount of gratitude
1086
00:41:10,226 --> 00:41:12,893
on behalf of... me.
1087
00:41:12,895 --> 00:41:14,929
You know, you can
grow that money,
1088
00:41:14,931 --> 00:41:16,764
or you can just piddle it away.
1089
00:41:16,766 --> 00:41:18,466
Maybe I'll do both.
1090
00:41:18,468 --> 00:41:19,433
Yeah?
1091
00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:21,101
Let me guess.
Texas hold 'em?
1092
00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:22,736
Blackjack, actually.
1093
00:41:22,738 --> 00:41:24,171
Scientifically sanctioned.
1094
00:41:24,173 --> 00:41:25,940
"A little benign forgetting."
1095
00:41:25,942 --> 00:41:27,908
Hmm.
1096
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:29,443
What are you gonna do now?
1097
00:41:29,445 --> 00:41:32,913
(Laughs)
1098
00:41:32,915 --> 00:41:34,882
Keep moving, I guess.
1099
00:41:34,884 --> 00:41:39,453
Just a word of advice
from a new old friend?
1100
00:41:41,022 --> 00:41:42,823
The past has lessons for us,
1101
00:41:42,825 --> 00:41:44,725
but the present
is where we live.
1102
00:41:44,727 --> 00:41:48,062
And nothing brings us into
the present like a goal.
1103
00:41:48,064 --> 00:41:50,497
A task that uses
1104
00:41:50,499 --> 00:41:53,066
all your powers, including...
1105
00:41:55,370 --> 00:41:56,403
Hmm.
1106
00:41:56,405 --> 00:41:58,405
You said you were a cop.
1107
00:42:01,042 --> 00:42:02,442
It was too hard.
1108
00:42:02,444 --> 00:42:04,611
Okay.
1109
00:42:06,381 --> 00:42:09,283
But, Carrie, if anybody
ever needed a mission,
1110
00:42:09,285 --> 00:42:10,617
it's you.
1111
00:42:10,619 --> 00:42:13,954
When you find one, let me know.
1112
00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:21,661
Gene?
1113
00:42:21,663 --> 00:42:24,197
Thank you.
1114
00:42:40,281 --> 00:42:41,982
I'm taking off.
1115
00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:45,318
Think I'll stick around.
1116
00:42:54,874 --> 00:42:56,902
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