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In the criminal justice system,
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups:
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The police who investigate crime...
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and the Crown Prosecutors who
prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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OK, OK, all right.
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Wait, wait wait...
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Let me get past!
Wait!
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I said we have to wait until Daddy
gets home from work.
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- Please, please! No, please!
- Please!
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Go, on then!
Yeah, you're the best!
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One at a time.
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Look how high I can go!
Let me just get my camera.
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Cause of death, Joy? Well,
single blow to the head, I'd say.
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Not much signs of a struggle, though,
by the look of things. Right.
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And yeah, even got a murder weapon.
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No office should be without one.
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A paperweight.
Very good, thank you.
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I took the kids out for a meal.
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I knew Neil wouldn't be home from
work until at least half six.
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Half six.
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I think we can put the time of death
to between two and 4:30.
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OK.
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Mrs Lester, I'm... I'm sorry,
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but I have to ask you a few more
questions, if you don't mind.
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What line of business is your husband
in?
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He works in the IT department for a
market research company.
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Right.
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Did he ever take any mornings off or
half days - that kind of thing?
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Never.
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He was up most of the night putting
Ethan's trampoline together.
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He swore blind the instructions were
wrong.
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Listen, Mrs Lester,
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why don't we get one of our officers
to get a car sorted out,
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run you and Ethan maybe to a
relative's or a friend's close by
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and get you out of here eh?
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Nice gaff.
Mm.
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God job.
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This guy had the whole package.
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And yet someone wanted him dead.
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There was no sign of forced entry
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although there was a laptop missing
from Neil Lester's desk.
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Forensics are running up the
profiles of the crime scene
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although the house is full of sticky
fingers.
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What about a murder weapon?
They ran the prints through PNC.
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There's no match.
And the wife?
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You wouldn't bash your husband's
head in before your kid's party.
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You'd be surprised, son.
Whoever had a beef with him
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knew there was something on that
laptop and wanted it back.
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Or he had something he didn't want
anyone else to see.
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Start by finding out why Neil Lester
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came home from work early yesterday,
will you? Right. Are you coming?
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So Miss Edwards, Neil Lester?
A valued member of the team.
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A little quiet but he always hit his
targets.
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And what is it that you do here?
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So we act as a liaison between large
retail clients and their consumers.
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Right, and what about yesterday?
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What about it?
Well, I mean how did he seem?
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Agitated? Did he go home early from
to be sick or something?
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I don't follow.
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I mean, he was working here
yesterday, wasn't he?
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Neil Lester hasn't worked with us for
the past nine months.
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Like most businesses, we had to make
cutbacks.
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I'm afraid it was a case of last in,
first out.
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I used to drive him to the station
every morning.
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We didn't have secrets. At least, I
didn't think we did.
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Did you notice any change in
his behaviour?
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Like what?
Was he depressed?
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Or did he feel agitated or...
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Excuse me one second.
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Sorry. Hello?
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What we need you to do is help us
understand a little bit more about
Neil.
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You know... sometimes even the
smallest details can help.
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Ethan hasn't been near that
trampoline.
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Not since... I'm ever so sorry about
that. My apologies.
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Mrs Lester... Sorry, if you wouldn't
mind.
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That was our guys back at the office.
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They've been going through some bank
statements
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and I just need to ask you
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a couple of questions about your
family finances.
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Neil used to take care of all that.
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What do you know about £160,000 in a
savings account?
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You must be mistaken.
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Well, it was deposited three months
after Neil lost his job.
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According to our records, Neil
Lester opened the account with us
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six months ago.
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Oh, that's odd.
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What's that?
Well, he closed it 24 hours later.
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Why would someone go through all the
hassle of opening an account just to
shut it down again?
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Don't know. What about the 160
grand?
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Well, it was transferred to Neil
Lester from the account of an Edward
Stewart.
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Stewart, right. Any information on
him?
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Well, as luck would have it, Mr
Stewart also has an account with us.
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He recently took out a further
advance.
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What's that in English?
It's a loan...
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against the value of his property.
Here, have a look.
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Right, thank you.
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So what's this Stewart guy got to do
with Lester?
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I don't know but whatever it is,
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chances are he was doing more than
just helping out a mate.
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So Eddie Stewart, right, takes out a
loan to pay off Neil Lester.
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What are we looking at here, though,
Ron? Blackmail? Gambling debts?
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What do you reckon?
I don't know.
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Either that or some kind of
elaborate bank fraud. Who knows?
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Edward Stewart?
Never heard of him.
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DS Brooks, this is DS Hawkins.
47 Lincoln's Rise, yeah?
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I hope so. Or I've just ripped up the
floor in the wrong house.
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And who are you?
Rob Hebden. Property Developer.
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You own this place now?
It went to auction three months ago.
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Turns out the owner stopped paying
his bills.
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Did a runner, by all accounts.
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Oh, any news, Ron?
It seems our man Edward Stewart
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took out some sort of homeowner loan
before legging it.
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Leaving the bank 160 grand out of
pocket.
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OK. You reckon they were in on it
together? Who knows?
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Deal goes a bit pear-shaped. Neil
Lester gets his head stoved in.
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Don't even think about it.
Any leads?
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We ran a check on Stewart's mobile,
bank accounts.
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It's like our boy's gone AWOL.
Ange is looking into next of kin.
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All right, in the meantime, get back
out there. Someone's bound to know
where he's hiding. Yeah.
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So the landlady in the Oak says she
hasn't seen him in over three
months.
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He hasn't been in there for a while
either.
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Do you know the problem with the 21st
century, son?
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There's no sense of community any
more.
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Not like good the old
days, right?
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When everything was, er... black and
white?
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Hello? At least in my day, we used to
talk to each other.
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Now it's all just texting and
twitting.
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Twitting? No-one's interested in the
world around them.
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All right, Gramps, come on.
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That's Eddie's table over there.
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When was the last time you saw him?
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About a month ago now. He doesn't pop
in like he used to.
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Did he have any mates or do you know
anyone who knows where he's staying?
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You want to talk to Felix Hargreaves.
They're as thick as thieves.
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And where will we find him?
He'll be...
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trying his luck down the community
centre.
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What goes on here, then?
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Well, looks like a bit of street
dance, hip hop, freestyle...
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Nothing for an old mod? Mod? Ron,
leave this one to me, yeah?
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On you go, son.
Can I help you?
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Yeah, we're looking for a Felix
Hargreaves.
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That's him over there. Making a
nuisance of himself.
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Like to join in? We're always short
of men.
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Oh, you reckon you can show us a few
new moves, do you?
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I'm the over-60s waltzing champion -
three years running.
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That's a very kind offer I'm sure
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but my man here has to do a bit of
work.
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Maybe next time.
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Nice talking to you.
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Like that!
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Felix Hargreaves?
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Detective Sergeant Brooks and this
is Detective Sergeant Hawkins.
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We'd like a quick word, if we may.
Oh, yeah? About what exactly?
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I think it would be best we were to
chat in private, if you don't mind, ladies?
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If you'll excuse me, ladies.
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See you later.
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I was on a promise then.
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Well, you know, Mr Hargreaves, the
more helpful you can be,
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the quicker you can get back to
them, so...
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We'd like to talk to you about a
friend of yours, Edward Stewart.
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It's Eddie. No-one calls him Edward.
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You known him long?
We served together in '52.
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Paratroopers.
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And where's Eddie is now?
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Ah. Packed up and moved, you know.
Abroad.
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Australia.
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Right.
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You must miss him.
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Brothers in arms, you know, yeah.
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I'd have done anything for that kid.
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What about family?
I'm the only family he needs.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, officers,
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I've a little unfinished business I
must to attend to.
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Ron...
Want some coffee, Wes?
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No, thanks, mate. Listen...
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Ange managed to track down a next of
kin. It's a daughter in Finsbury
Park.
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Oh, great. We'll go and see what
she's got to say for herself, eh?
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What's up?
You might want to take a look at...
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So how are we going to do this?
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Just leave me do the talking, I
think.
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All right, guv?
Ronnie!
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Any chance of a cuppa?
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I was sorry to hear about your mum.
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Yeah, well... she was ready to go by
the end.
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Thanks, anyway.
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Are you going to introduce yourself?
Oh, yeah, I'm DS Joe Hawkins.
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So... now we've got the pleasantries
out the way,
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what are you really here for?
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Come on, Ronnie. We've known one
another 30 years.
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When did you ever drop in for a cup
of tea?
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Yeah.
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Er... well, it's just about your dad,
really.
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We'd just like to ask him a few
questions, that's all.
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My dad? What about?
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When did you last see him?
Four months ago.
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Did he leave a forwarding address?
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Why would he? He's lived in the same
house for 30 years.
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Yeah. Well, that's just it you so
see, guv.
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Thing is, it turns out that he
defaulted on a few loan repayments
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and they've repossessed his house and
taken it away so...
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No, that's not right.
You weren't in contact?
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Not since my Mum got sick and moved
in with me.
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He didn't take kindly to my
relieving him of his duties, so to
speak.
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Right. His friend Felix mentioned
something about Australia.
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What have you been talking to Felix
for?
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Well, just that they were good
friends, that's all.
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Could somebody please tell me what's
going on?
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We believe your dad went into
business with a Neil Lester.
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I've never heard of Neil Lester.
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Well, he may have been linked with a
possible bank fraud.
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Yeah, and what's that got to do with
my dad?
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Well, guv, you see,
the thing is, Neil Lester -
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Lester was found dead on Monday
afternoon.
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Her head must be racing. Imagine if
that was your old man.
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Yeah, but Joe, we don't know what
we're dealing with here.
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OK, but it's not looking good for
him, is it?
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Why would you go into business at
that age?
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Last throw of the dice, maybe.
He's 78.
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So he took a risk.
And it backfired.
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Ange, got any good news for us,
love?
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Yeah, uniform traced Lester's laptop
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back to a second-hand shop in
Shepherd's Bush.
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So is this the elusive Eddie?
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Not exactly.
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Twice in one day.
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Aren't I the lucky one!
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We've got a little conundrum we think
you might be able to help us with.
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I think I'll stick to my crossword.
Well, you know what?
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Someone bearing a striking
resemblance to your good self
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was seen taking a laptop into an
electrical shop in Shepherd's Bush.
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Since when was trying to earn a bit
of extra pocket money been a crime?
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Well, it's not a crime. However,
Felix,
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that laptop was taken from a murder
scene yesterday.
236
00:13:55,147 --> 00:13:57,507
What... What're you talking about?
237
00:13:57,547 --> 00:14:00,907
Now, whilst I really want to believe
that you were not involved,
238
00:14:00,947 --> 00:14:05,467
I'm struggling to figure out how that
laptop came to be in your possession.
239
00:14:07,587 --> 00:14:13,067
See, the thing is Felix, we know
Eddie was involved with Neil Lester.
240
00:14:13,107 --> 00:14:15,987
How far are you gonna go to protect
him, eh?
241
00:14:19,587 --> 00:14:22,187
Edward Stewart?
Don't say anything.
242
00:14:23,027 --> 00:14:25,427
How can I help you?
Edward Stewart...
243
00:14:25,467 --> 00:14:28,547
I'm arresting you on suspicion of
the murder of Neil Lester.
244
00:14:28,587 --> 00:14:33,147
You do not have to say anything, but
it may harm your defence if you do
not mention when questioned,
245
00:14:33,187 --> 00:14:35,267
something you later rely on in
court.
246
00:14:35,307 --> 00:14:37,787
Anything you do say may be given as
evidence.
247
00:14:49,467 --> 00:14:51,347
How many times has she called now?
248
00:14:51,387 --> 00:14:53,467
Oh, I don't know. Half a dozen,
maybe.
249
00:14:53,507 --> 00:14:55,987
Have you told her her dad's been
arrested?
250
00:14:56,027 --> 00:15:00,227
Wes, that's jumping the gun a bit,
mate, isn't it, don't you think?
251
00:15:00,267 --> 00:15:02,267
Look, do you want me to take this?
252
00:15:04,027 --> 00:15:06,307
How long's he been a DS? An hour?
253
00:15:06,347 --> 00:15:09,227
You treat him like you would any
other murder suspect.
254
00:15:09,267 --> 00:15:11,467
Ronnie, is that understood?
255
00:15:12,947 --> 00:15:14,947
Yes, Wes.
256
00:15:28,587 --> 00:15:30,587
Hello, Eddie.
257
00:15:31,707 --> 00:15:33,707
Doing all right?
258
00:15:35,347 --> 00:15:38,027
Why don't we get all this boring
stuff out of the way, eh?
259
00:15:38,067 --> 00:15:41,387
Then we can all get home, have a
nice kip. How does that sound?
260
00:15:41,427 --> 00:15:44,547
I'm not going to argue with you.
There you are, see, Joe?
261
00:15:44,587 --> 00:15:47,467
Eddie's a straight talker. Just like
his daughter.
262
00:15:51,667 --> 00:15:56,387
Why don't... Why don't we talk about
yesterday afternoon?
263
00:15:57,187 --> 00:16:00,707
What were you doing between 2pm and
4:30pm, Eddie? I was taking a nap.
264
00:16:00,747 --> 00:16:02,827
Right. You weren't in southwest
London?
265
00:16:02,867 --> 00:16:05,347
Not unless I was sleepwalking.
266
00:16:06,387 --> 00:16:08,387
Anyone vouch for you?
267
00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:11,867
I tend to sleep alone these days.
268
00:16:13,067 --> 00:16:16,147
Why don't you tell us about the
laptop, Mr Stewart?
269
00:16:17,907 --> 00:16:19,907
I found it in a skip.
270
00:16:19,947 --> 00:16:22,667
What, did you just flog it to get
some extra cash?
271
00:16:23,627 --> 00:16:25,467
I'm a pensioner.
272
00:16:25,507 --> 00:16:28,147
I've got to earn my pin money
somewhere. Of course.
273
00:16:28,187 --> 00:16:31,107
What about Neil Lester?
Never heard of him. Really?
274
00:16:31,787 --> 00:16:33,787
He's dead.
275
00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:36,587
Had his head bashed in yesterday
afternoon.
276
00:16:37,427 --> 00:16:39,427
Mm. But you knew that already.
277
00:16:40,787 --> 00:16:43,107
Because you were there, weren't you?
278
00:16:45,787 --> 00:16:47,787
Eddie.
279
00:16:49,107 --> 00:16:51,107
Eddie.
280
00:16:51,147 --> 00:16:53,147
Did you kill him?
281
00:16:54,067 --> 00:16:56,387
I already told you I don't know any
Lester.
282
00:16:56,427 --> 00:16:59,907
And yet you gave him £160,000.
283
00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:04,107
And why would I do that?
That's what we'd like to know.
284
00:17:04,587 --> 00:17:07,187
Mr Stewart...
Can you tell us what this is?
285
00:17:09,227 --> 00:17:11,227
You're the detective. You tell me.
286
00:17:11,267 --> 00:17:14,587
It's a request for a bank transfer to
a Neil Lester.
287
00:17:16,307 --> 00:17:18,307
'Dated September 30th.'
288
00:17:22,627 --> 00:17:24,627
Right, let's start again, shall we?
289
00:17:24,667 --> 00:17:28,347
Did you or did you not pay Neil
Lester 160 grand?
290
00:17:29,907 --> 00:17:31,907
'Maybe I did.
291
00:17:32,427 --> 00:17:34,427
Maybe I didn't.
292
00:17:35,427 --> 00:17:37,507
I forget a lot of things as I get
older.'
293
00:17:41,267 --> 00:17:45,907
Right, interview terminated at 4:13.
294
00:17:55,627 --> 00:18:00,867
Look, Ron, this is Eddie arriving at
South Wimbledon tube at 2:18.
295
00:18:01,867 --> 00:18:05,107
And this is him returning again at
3:11.
296
00:18:08,307 --> 00:18:10,587
Any news from the lab?
Yeah. It's all bad.
297
00:18:10,627 --> 00:18:13,227
Eddie's prints are all over the
murder weapon.
298
00:18:17,227 --> 00:18:19,627
Actually, Joe, I'll sit in on the
next interview.
299
00:18:19,667 --> 00:18:21,947
Wes, there's no need.
You are too close to this.
300
00:18:21,987 --> 00:18:25,707
I don't want anyone saying there's a
conflict of interest. Well...
301
00:18:29,787 --> 00:18:31,667
Hey.
302
00:18:31,707 --> 00:18:33,627
He's got a point, you know.
303
00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:36,267
Get Natalie Chandler down here,
quick as you can.
304
00:18:39,747 --> 00:18:42,787
Eddie, I'd like to introduce you to
my colleague.
305
00:18:42,827 --> 00:18:44,907
This is Detective Inspector Wes
Leyton.
306
00:18:44,947 --> 00:18:47,747
Don't mind me. I'm just here to make
up the numbers.
307
00:18:48,987 --> 00:18:50,747
How are you feeling? You OK?
308
00:18:50,787 --> 00:18:53,307
I know how things sometimes get a
bit muddled.
309
00:18:54,227 --> 00:18:56,947
I'm not senile.
No-one's saying you are, Eddie.
310
00:18:57,907 --> 00:19:00,507
Let's get back to yesterday
afternoon, shall we?
311
00:19:00,547 --> 00:19:03,027
Did you visit the home of Neil
Lester?
312
00:19:03,827 --> 00:19:06,667
I already told you. I've
never heard of him.
313
00:19:07,827 --> 00:19:10,627
How do we explain the prints, then,
Eddie?
314
00:19:12,627 --> 00:19:16,947
They're in the house and they're all
over the weapon we believe killed
Neil Lester.
315
00:19:18,587 --> 00:19:20,987
Let's just rewind. Start again.
316
00:19:23,827 --> 00:19:26,467
Have you ever visited the home of
Neil Lester?
317
00:19:26,507 --> 00:19:28,787
Either yesterday or at any other
time.
318
00:19:33,587 --> 00:19:36,547
So we know he was at Neil Lester's
house.
319
00:19:36,587 --> 00:19:38,707
We know he may well have bashed his
skull in.
320
00:19:38,747 --> 00:19:41,427
But what I'm struggling to get my
head around is why?
321
00:19:41,467 --> 00:19:43,747
I think 160 grand is reason enough,
don't you?
322
00:19:43,787 --> 00:19:45,947
But why is he handing over that money
at all?
323
00:19:45,987 --> 00:19:50,307
It was a loan, business deal.
Whatever the reason was, it ended
up with Neil dead.
324
00:19:50,347 --> 00:19:52,507
Wes, he is a pensioner.
325
00:19:52,547 --> 00:19:58,027
What is he doing messing around with
that money in the first place?
You're clutching at straws now, Ron.
326
00:19:58,067 --> 00:20:00,067
You know what you've got to do.
327
00:20:05,987 --> 00:20:09,787
Could you buzz me through?
Listen, give me five minutes, yeah?
328
00:20:09,827 --> 00:20:13,387
I don't want anyone speaking to him
before my brief arrives. Understood?
329
00:20:13,427 --> 00:20:15,347
Joe - one second, son.
Can I see him?
330
00:20:15,387 --> 00:20:18,747
Erm... Guv, look, that's not going to
be possible.
331
00:20:18,787 --> 00:20:22,627
Why not? Can we go somewhere a bit
quieter and talk about this?
332
00:20:22,667 --> 00:20:25,867
Cut the bullshit, Ronnie. Just tell
me what's happening.
333
00:20:27,147 --> 00:20:30,467
Well, we've charged your dad with the
murder of Neil Lester.
334
00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:41,699
I don't envy you, Jake. Natalie
Chandler's a formidable woman.
335
00:20:41,715 --> 00:20:43,955
I can't say it's a prospect I'm
relishing.
336
00:20:43,995 --> 00:20:46,195
How's it looking?
All the evidence is there.
337
00:20:46,235 --> 00:20:48,875
We're just lacking one key
ingredient. A motive.
338
00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:50,435
Aside from the money?
339
00:20:50,475 --> 00:20:52,995
It's how and why it came into play
in the first place.
340
00:20:53,035 --> 00:20:55,035
That's what I'm struggling with.
341
00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:59,395
Ah, Henry. Finally, someone who talks
a bit of sense.
342
00:20:59,435 --> 00:21:01,355
I had no idea you were still
practising.
343
00:21:01,395 --> 00:21:04,435
You thought I'd thrown in the towel
years ago, didn't you?
344
00:21:04,475 --> 00:21:06,435
Well, sorry to disappoint.
345
00:21:06,475 --> 00:21:10,715
Geoffrey Sykes. I'll be representing
Edward Stewart.
346
00:21:10,755 --> 00:21:13,595
Now, tell me Mr... Thorne.
347
00:21:13,635 --> 00:21:15,635
Why are we even here?
348
00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:18,035
As far as I can see, there's no case
to answer.
349
00:21:18,075 --> 00:21:21,955
Mr Stewart's prints were found at
the victim's house and on the murder
weapon.
350
00:21:21,995 --> 00:21:24,355
I'd say that was fairly conclusive,
wouldn't you?
351
00:21:24,395 --> 00:21:26,875
Perhaps Lester invited him over for a
cup of tea.
352
00:21:26,915 --> 00:21:30,035
And there is the small matter of the
money that he gave to him.
353
00:21:30,075 --> 00:21:33,835
Since when was a gift a crime? Rather
extravagant gift, wouldn't you say?
354
00:21:33,875 --> 00:21:36,475
Well, it's not my job to question his
generosity.
355
00:21:36,515 --> 00:21:39,715
Yet your client made a statement
claiming he'd never met Lester.
356
00:21:39,755 --> 00:21:41,635
He's old. He forgets things.
357
00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:43,755
Is that your defence?
It's a start.
358
00:21:43,795 --> 00:21:46,555
My client is a decorated war veteran
359
00:21:46,595 --> 00:21:50,475
who spends most of his day playing
bridge in the local community centre.
360
00:21:50,515 --> 00:21:52,755
Neil Lester was a loving husband and
father.
361
00:21:52,795 --> 00:21:56,355
Who kept a large amount of money
hidden from his wife.
362
00:21:57,075 --> 00:21:59,075
I know who I'd believe.
363
00:22:04,515 --> 00:22:06,515
Edward Stewart.
364
00:22:06,555 --> 00:22:09,995
You have been charged with murder
contrary to common law.
365
00:22:10,035 --> 00:22:14,195
The particulars of the offence are
that on the 14th day of March
366
00:22:14,235 --> 00:22:16,395
you murdered Neil Lester.
367
00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:19,675
To this charge how do you plead?
Guilty or not guilty?
368
00:22:20,595 --> 00:22:22,595
Not guilty.
369
00:22:22,635 --> 00:22:25,955
M'lord, we apply for Mr Stewart to
be remanded into custody.
370
00:22:25,995 --> 00:22:29,915
M'lord, my client is an upstanding
member of the community.
371
00:22:29,955 --> 00:22:33,795
I'd like to hear the application if
it's all the same, Mr Sykes.
372
00:22:35,155 --> 00:22:38,915
Evidence has come to light that Mr
Stewart may well be a flight risk.
373
00:22:38,955 --> 00:22:40,875
A flight risk!?
374
00:22:40,915 --> 00:22:43,555
My client is barely mobile, m'lord.
375
00:22:43,595 --> 00:22:46,035
A statement from DS Brooks mentions
376
00:22:46,075 --> 00:22:48,795
Mr Stewart's plans to move to
Australia.
377
00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:52,195
I'd say that poses a considerable
threat, wouldn't you?
378
00:22:52,235 --> 00:22:56,195
I should point out that my client is
a pensioner of 78
379
00:22:56,235 --> 00:22:58,795
who has never been in trouble in his
life.
380
00:23:00,635 --> 00:23:02,635
Mr Stewart...
381
00:23:02,675 --> 00:23:05,555
Given the nature and the seriousness
of this charge,
382
00:23:05,595 --> 00:23:08,075
you will be held on remand
383
00:23:08,115 --> 00:23:11,435
until a date can be found for you to
stand trial.
384
00:23:11,475 --> 00:23:14,395
This is ridiculous. It's clear to
everyone but the Crown
385
00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:17,715
that my father isn't fit to stand
trial, let alone enter a plea!
386
00:23:17,755 --> 00:23:19,675
I'm sorry. Who are you?
387
00:23:19,715 --> 00:23:23,115
His daughter. Natalie Chandler,
Detective Inspector.
388
00:23:23,155 --> 00:23:25,195
Of course, Miss Chandler.
389
00:23:25,235 --> 00:23:28,115
I'm sorry I didn't recognise you
without my glasses.
390
00:23:28,155 --> 00:23:30,435
A regular fixture in my court at one
time.
391
00:23:30,475 --> 00:23:35,835
Mr Sykes, has the defendant's fitness
to enter a plea been considered?
392
00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:39,195
My client made no appeal for
leniency, M'lord.
393
00:23:39,235 --> 00:23:42,155
It would have been an obvious line
of defence.
394
00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:46,755
My father was admitted to North
Middlesex University Hospital last
April for a fall
395
00:23:46,795 --> 00:23:51,115
and it's clear from the medical
reports that his mental state was
fragile at best.
396
00:23:51,155 --> 00:23:53,795
In light of this new information,
397
00:23:53,835 --> 00:23:56,315
the defence would like to make an
application
398
00:23:56,355 --> 00:23:59,475
to withdraw the plea that has just
been entered.
399
00:23:59,515 --> 00:24:02,755
We would also like to apply for an
adjournment
400
00:24:02,795 --> 00:24:05,475
so that a full assessment can be
carried out
401
00:24:05,515 --> 00:24:08,155
to address the concerns on fitness.
402
00:24:08,195 --> 00:24:11,555
I'm inclined to agree with the
defence in this instance.
403
00:24:11,595 --> 00:24:14,715
The defendant will be kept on remand
404
00:24:14,755 --> 00:24:19,235
and the case will be adjourned for...
four weeks.
405
00:24:22,115 --> 00:24:24,435
You pleased with yourself?
Of course not.
406
00:24:24,475 --> 00:24:27,315
You know as well as I do I don't
choose the cases I get.
407
00:24:27,355 --> 00:24:29,115
I really am sorry, Natalie.
408
00:24:29,155 --> 00:24:31,555
I don't suppose this is an easy time
for anyone.
409
00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:34,635
If I have my way he won't even make
it into that witness box.
410
00:24:34,675 --> 00:24:38,195
Come on, we both know your father's
mental health isn't the issue here.
411
00:24:38,235 --> 00:24:41,435
Subjecting him to an endless cycle of
psychological assessments
412
00:24:41,475 --> 00:24:44,275
isn't going to alter the fact he's up
on a murder charge.
413
00:24:44,315 --> 00:24:48,315
And as much as I want to help him, I
can't do that unless he starts
talking.
414
00:24:50,555 --> 00:24:54,515
Guv, tell the truth. Do you honestly
think your old man's losing the
plot?
415
00:24:54,555 --> 00:24:56,555
He's as sharp as they come.
416
00:24:57,475 --> 00:25:01,555
Well... you realise you're playing
with fire here, don't you?
417
00:25:01,595 --> 00:25:04,475
What choice have I got? I can't just
sit around and do nothing.
418
00:25:04,515 --> 00:25:07,515
He's looking at life or
recommendation with at least 15.
419
00:25:07,555 --> 00:25:09,675
But he's not playing ball, guv.
420
00:25:09,715 --> 00:25:13,195
He really isn't. His defence team
are scrambling around in the dark.
421
00:25:13,235 --> 00:25:15,915
If I could just see him -
Guv, I'm sorry. Look...
422
00:25:15,955 --> 00:25:18,755
I stuck my neck on the line by
talking to you.
423
00:25:19,715 --> 00:25:22,315
And I appreciate... I appreciate
that.
424
00:25:23,675 --> 00:25:26,555
If Wes gets a sniff of this -
He's not going to, is he?
425
00:25:31,675 --> 00:25:33,675
OK, what would you do?
426
00:25:34,755 --> 00:25:36,835
I'd question his motive, for a start.
427
00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:39,235
He's never so much as mentioned this
Lester
428
00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:43,635
and now I'm expected to believe he's
in some kind of business arrangement
with him.
429
00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:50,555
Guv, we can place your dad at that
house that afternoon.
430
00:25:50,595 --> 00:25:53,675
How do you explain that?
Because he's keeping schtum.
431
00:25:53,715 --> 00:25:55,715
He's not saying.
432
00:25:56,075 --> 00:25:58,075
I don't know.
Well...
433
00:26:00,635 --> 00:26:03,315
Everything is pointing to your dad.
434
00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:07,635
Who gives 160k to a virtual stranger?
435
00:26:07,675 --> 00:26:10,595
I get it guv, I totally get it. I
understand.
436
00:26:10,635 --> 00:26:14,315
I'm not having him go down for this.
I'm not. Not if I can help it.
437
00:26:18,195 --> 00:26:21,635
So I'm old. I forget things.
Doesn't mean I'm crazy.
438
00:26:21,675 --> 00:26:24,955
No-one's saying that, Eddie.
You're a psychiatrist, aren't you?
439
00:26:24,995 --> 00:26:29,395
I'm just here to assess whether -
Whether I'm fit to enter a plea.
440
00:26:31,235 --> 00:26:33,915
My body may have slowed me up, Mr
Marsh.
441
00:26:33,955 --> 00:26:37,275
But my mind is something else
entirely.
442
00:26:39,115 --> 00:26:41,435
Well, go on, then. What do you want
to know?
443
00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:43,475
Who the Prime Minister is?
444
00:26:43,515 --> 00:26:45,515
How much a bottle of milk costs?
445
00:26:45,555 --> 00:26:47,435
Fire away cos I'm ready for you.
446
00:26:47,475 --> 00:26:50,675
The psychiatrist instructed by your
defence raised some concerns -
447
00:26:50,715 --> 00:26:52,755
That's because they twisted my
answers.
448
00:26:52,795 --> 00:26:57,715
I already told them. Neil Lester...
was an old friend.
449
00:26:57,755 --> 00:27:02,435
I don't remember where we met...
but we did.
450
00:27:03,675 --> 00:27:05,955
Now, can we just get this thing
over?
451
00:27:06,555 --> 00:27:08,475
I thought he said they'd never met.
452
00:27:08,515 --> 00:27:10,715
It would appear he's changed his
story.
453
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:12,475
Aided by the defence, no doubt.
454
00:27:12,515 --> 00:27:14,995
Why wait until now?
Memory lapse, perhaps.
455
00:27:15,915 --> 00:27:18,595
Either that or he's being
deliberately obtuse.
456
00:27:18,635 --> 00:27:21,915
There's no denying he's forgetful,
a little confused at times.
457
00:27:21,955 --> 00:27:24,835
But? He's 78. It comes with the
territory.
458
00:27:24,875 --> 00:27:27,195
Would you deem him fit to enter a
plea?
459
00:27:27,235 --> 00:27:29,835
I'd like to see the defence prove
otherwise.
460
00:27:30,595 --> 00:27:34,275
He still looks like my grandad.
And most of the jury's, I bet.
461
00:27:34,315 --> 00:27:36,315
I agree that it's not ideal.
462
00:27:36,355 --> 00:27:40,315
We'll just have to hope they see past
the sentiment and stick to the facts.
463
00:27:40,355 --> 00:27:43,395
Eddie and Lester were from two
completely different worlds.
464
00:27:43,435 --> 00:27:46,235
The jury will struggle to find a
connection. I know I am.
465
00:27:46,275 --> 00:27:48,995
Then we have to find out what made
those worlds collide.
466
00:27:51,675 --> 00:27:53,675
I thought you might have been Eddie.
467
00:27:54,835 --> 00:27:59,155
I phone that station every day but
no-one's told me anything.
468
00:27:59,995 --> 00:28:02,355
Eddie's on remand, Felix.
Why?
469
00:28:02,395 --> 00:28:04,355
Well, just until he goes on trial.
470
00:28:04,395 --> 00:28:07,315
He's done nothing wrong.
Tell him, will you?
471
00:28:07,355 --> 00:28:09,355
I know, I know.
472
00:28:09,395 --> 00:28:11,795
I mean, how can you let this happen?
473
00:28:11,835 --> 00:28:14,435
I'm doing everything I can Felix,
believe me.
474
00:28:15,715 --> 00:28:17,475
He's no killer.
475
00:28:17,515 --> 00:28:20,835
He should be here with me, not in
some cell.
476
00:28:22,795 --> 00:28:25,195
I know that man inside out.
477
00:28:25,235 --> 00:28:27,355
I'd have known if something was
wrong.
478
00:28:27,395 --> 00:28:31,035
Well, Eddie claims that the money he
gave Lester was a gift.
479
00:28:31,075 --> 00:28:33,075
Poppycock.
480
00:28:33,115 --> 00:28:36,795
He never mentioned to you about
taking a loan against his home?
481
00:28:36,835 --> 00:28:38,835
Why would he?
482
00:28:39,675 --> 00:28:41,515
He loved that place.
483
00:28:41,555 --> 00:28:43,915
He carried his wife over that
threshold.
484
00:28:43,955 --> 00:28:46,275
His little girl was born there.
485
00:28:46,315 --> 00:28:48,595
Happiest days of his life.
486
00:28:50,075 --> 00:28:52,075
Think I'll stick a kettle on.
487
00:28:54,195 --> 00:28:58,035
When was the last time you two saw
each other? Sheila's funeral.
488
00:28:58,075 --> 00:29:01,275
Before that she was always so busy
with work.
489
00:29:03,235 --> 00:29:05,235
Apple of her father's eye.
490
00:29:06,315 --> 00:29:08,675
He didn't hate you, you know.
491
00:29:09,635 --> 00:29:11,795
But he was a proud man.
492
00:29:11,835 --> 00:29:14,115
You made him feel like a failure.
493
00:29:14,715 --> 00:29:17,875
I only wanted to make sure my mum
was looked after properly.
494
00:29:17,915 --> 00:29:20,395
In sickness and in health.
495
00:29:20,435 --> 00:29:22,875
That was the promise he made to her.
496
00:29:22,915 --> 00:29:29,155
Felix, did Eddie owe anyone money, do
you know?
497
00:29:29,195 --> 00:29:32,715
He never believed in debt. If he
needed money he'd have come to me.
498
00:29:32,755 --> 00:29:34,755
What are these for?
499
00:29:34,795 --> 00:29:37,995
Oh, we've been saving up to go to
Australia.
500
00:29:40,555 --> 00:29:43,235
The one on the right there, that's
Peter Fenham.
501
00:29:43,275 --> 00:29:46,115
He moved to Sydney back in '68.
502
00:29:47,595 --> 00:29:51,075
Eddie always said we'd have another
beer together.
503
00:29:53,115 --> 00:29:55,035
Two jars of coppers, Ronnie.
504
00:29:55,075 --> 00:29:58,755
Does that look like someone who's
going to gamble away their home?
505
00:30:03,315 --> 00:30:06,555
They could have my job for this.
I've already had to lie to Joe.
506
00:30:06,595 --> 00:30:09,915
It's a shame you weren't this
conscientious under my watch.
507
00:30:12,675 --> 00:30:15,355
Now, not a word guv, please.
Just let me do this.
508
00:30:18,435 --> 00:30:20,075
Hello, Sally.
509
00:30:22,755 --> 00:30:24,755
Er, Mrs Lester.
510
00:30:27,435 --> 00:30:29,435
Mrs Lester.
511
00:30:29,475 --> 00:30:32,595
I'm sorry, just a couple more
questions, please.
512
00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:40,515
Just look at the photograph once
more, just concentrate, think back.
513
00:30:41,555 --> 00:30:43,555
Have you ever seen him before?
514
00:30:44,115 --> 00:30:46,315
No.
All right.
515
00:30:46,355 --> 00:30:49,755
Well, what about Neil's business
interests outside of work?
516
00:30:49,795 --> 00:30:54,715
Neil was a family man. He wasn't
interested in making a lot of money.
517
00:30:56,635 --> 00:30:59,635
All he wanted was to be able to
provide for me and Ethan.
518
00:30:59,675 --> 00:31:02,955
Do you really expect us to believe
that? He's out of work nine months
519
00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:05,875
and doesn't bother telling you.
My husband was a proud man.
520
00:31:05,915 --> 00:31:09,315
He stashes away 160 grand without so
much as treating you to a holiday.
521
00:31:09,355 --> 00:31:11,275
Please!
I'm sorry?
522
00:31:11,315 --> 00:31:16,555
Er... please excuse DC Chandler's...
lack of diplomacy.
523
00:31:16,595 --> 00:31:19,235
Well, it does rather beg the
question, doesn't it,
524
00:31:19,275 --> 00:31:20,955
what else he was lying about?
525
00:31:20,995 --> 00:31:23,075
Mum!
Just a minute, Ethan.
526
00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:25,715
You don't know the first thing about
my husband.
527
00:31:25,755 --> 00:31:27,755
Neither do you, it would seem.
528
00:31:29,075 --> 00:31:31,995
The stupid thing keeps freezing.
I'll look at it later.
529
00:31:32,035 --> 00:31:34,155
But I want to play now.
Ethan, please!
530
00:31:40,395 --> 00:31:43,275
I'm sorry. That's OK.
We're finding it difficult.
531
00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:45,315
Mrs Lester, whose laptop is that?
532
00:31:45,355 --> 00:31:49,315
It's Neil's old one. Ethan went and
left it a friend's house.
533
00:31:51,675 --> 00:31:55,355
But what about the laptop that was
taken from the office?
534
00:31:57,035 --> 00:32:00,755
He'd only had that a few months. He
kept hold of that thing for years.
535
00:32:01,715 --> 00:32:04,875
Mrs Lester, I'm going to have to take
this laptop away.
536
00:32:04,915 --> 00:32:06,995
You can't. Ethan needs it.
537
00:32:07,035 --> 00:32:12,235
I know, I promise I'll bring it back
just as soon as the tech boys have
given it the once over, OK?
538
00:32:15,275 --> 00:32:17,355
I thought I told you to keep it
zipped?
539
00:32:17,395 --> 00:32:20,755
You haven't seen anything yet.
Why don't you just think like a DI?
540
00:32:20,795 --> 00:32:24,195
It's not your dad, Ronnie.
Well, I know that but look, guv...
541
00:32:26,155 --> 00:32:28,835
Your dad's prints were all over the
murder weapon.
542
00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:31,915
So what are you saying? That I give
up. That's it? No, of course not.
543
00:32:31,955 --> 00:32:35,035
But charging around like a bull in a
china shop isn't helping.
544
00:32:35,075 --> 00:32:37,075
You gotta treat this... Guv'nor!
545
00:32:37,115 --> 00:32:40,635
You gotta treat this like you would
any other case. You understand?
546
00:32:40,675 --> 00:32:44,315
Answer me one question, right.
Forget your dad when he was at home.
547
00:32:44,355 --> 00:32:47,955
All right? Think of him when he was
fighting for King and country.
548
00:32:48,075 --> 00:32:49,755
All right?
549
00:32:49,795 --> 00:32:51,795
Could he kill a man?
550
00:32:53,635 --> 00:32:55,635
As a daughter, no.
No, as a DI?
551
00:32:57,555 --> 00:32:59,555
Not without a very good reason.
552
00:33:06,055 --> 00:33:08,135
But surely a bank can't just arrange
a loan
553
00:33:08,143 --> 00:33:10,223
just without any kind of
conversation?
554
00:33:10,263 --> 00:33:13,023
Mr Stewart was in regular
correspondence with us.
555
00:33:13,063 --> 00:33:15,183
Saying what?
556
00:33:15,223 --> 00:33:17,383
Well, that the money was for...
557
00:33:19,503 --> 00:33:21,783
..essential structural repairs.
558
00:33:22,863 --> 00:33:25,463
So the house might have needed a bit
of TLC.
559
00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,663
That doesn't cost 160 grand.
560
00:33:27,703 --> 00:33:31,663
I guess he was intending to rent the
property after he moved abroad.
561
00:33:31,703 --> 00:33:33,983
What are you talking about?
562
00:33:34,023 --> 00:33:37,823
He'd asked for all his
correspondence to be sent to a post
office box.
563
00:33:37,863 --> 00:33:39,863
Hello, Joe. Excuse me, I'm sorry.
564
00:33:39,903 --> 00:33:41,823
Hiya, mate.
565
00:33:41,863 --> 00:33:44,383
Yeah, I'll be right there. Give me 20
min...
566
00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:48,023
All right, fair enough. OK.
567
00:33:48,063 --> 00:33:50,063
Everything all right?
568
00:33:50,103 --> 00:33:52,823
Erm... Yeah, yeah, Wes needs to see
me.
569
00:33:52,863 --> 00:33:55,543
Don't do anything, OK? Please.
Promise?
570
00:34:02,983 --> 00:34:07,383
Ron... Hey, you are on the naughty
step, man. Trust me.
571
00:34:07,423 --> 00:34:09,583
Hairdryer treatment...
572
00:34:09,623 --> 00:34:11,423
Oi!
573
00:34:11,463 --> 00:34:13,783
Now, I've just spent the best part of
an hour
574
00:34:13,823 --> 00:34:17,263
trying to persuade Sally Lester not
to make an official complaint.
575
00:34:17,303 --> 00:34:20,063
Impersonating a police officer.
Intimidating a witness.
576
00:34:20,103 --> 00:34:22,303
Have you lost the plot?
I was trying to help -
577
00:34:22,343 --> 00:34:27,183
No! This is your first and final
warning, Ronnie. You stay away from
her. Are you understanding me?
578
00:34:27,223 --> 00:34:29,623
I will not have you jeopardising this
case.
579
00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:39,303
Joe. Joe, cover for me, son.
All right, Ange?
580
00:34:39,343 --> 00:34:41,943
Where are you going now?
Someone's in a hurry.
581
00:34:42,383 --> 00:34:44,903
Is he always like this?
You'll get used to it.
582
00:34:47,703 --> 00:34:50,943
Can't give out personal information.
Data Protection Act.
583
00:34:56,063 --> 00:34:59,343
Detective Inspector Chandler. Let's
begin again, shall we?
584
00:34:59,383 --> 00:35:01,743
What can you tell me about Mr Edward
Stewart?
585
00:35:01,783 --> 00:35:03,823
Nice guy.
586
00:35:03,863 --> 00:35:06,623
Came in here few times a week for the
last six months.
587
00:35:06,663 --> 00:35:10,143
Always polite. That's more than can
be said for that kid of his.
588
00:35:10,183 --> 00:35:12,183
Right little brat, he was.
589
00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:16,263
What sort of age roughly would you
say Mr Stewart was?
590
00:35:16,303 --> 00:35:18,183
Early to mid-30s.
591
00:35:20,343 --> 00:35:23,543
And your CCTV...? Your colleague's
already asked all this.
592
00:35:23,583 --> 00:35:25,903
What colleague?
One sec.
593
00:35:33,103 --> 00:35:35,103
You promised me.
594
00:35:35,143 --> 00:35:38,543
Have you looked at the footage?
I cannot believe that you...
595
00:35:40,423 --> 00:35:44,583
Right, look, Neil Lester has opened a
PO box in your dad's name.
596
00:35:44,623 --> 00:35:47,623
CCTV footage shows him visiting it at
least, I don't know,
597
00:35:47,663 --> 00:35:50,263
twice a month for the past six
months. What's inside?
598
00:35:50,303 --> 00:35:54,063
Overdue bills, final demands from the
bank,
599
00:35:54,103 --> 00:35:57,303
followed by a repossession order.
Joe's just been on the blower.
600
00:35:57,343 --> 00:35:59,703
The tech boys have been through
Lester's laptop.
601
00:35:59,743 --> 00:36:03,103
Dates of birth, home addresses,
credit card details...
602
00:36:03,143 --> 00:36:05,703
Everything that's on it -
you name it, it is on there.
603
00:36:05,743 --> 00:36:08,063
Over 400 potential identity frauds.
604
00:36:08,103 --> 00:36:11,823
So my dad didn't give up his home.
No, Lester stole it from him.
605
00:36:11,863 --> 00:36:15,823
We've got to talk to Jake about
this. We haven't got to do anything.
606
00:36:15,863 --> 00:36:20,183
You have done your bit. Now, go home
and let me do mine.
607
00:36:23,503 --> 00:36:26,823
You are facing life in prison,
Eddie. Those are the bare facts.
608
00:36:26,863 --> 00:36:30,063
Of course, if I had my way, it'd be
Neil Lester on the stand.
609
00:36:30,103 --> 00:36:32,663
What are you offering?
That depends.
610
00:36:32,703 --> 00:36:36,383
On what? On whether Eddie is willing
to cooperate.
611
00:36:37,663 --> 00:36:41,143
There will be no offers made because
there's nothing more to say.
612
00:36:41,183 --> 00:36:43,863
Look, we know what really happened,
Eddie.
613
00:36:43,903 --> 00:36:45,903
We know Lester stole your identity
614
00:36:45,943 --> 00:36:47,943
and took out a loan against your
home.
615
00:36:49,263 --> 00:36:52,023
I told you before, I took that loan
out myself.
616
00:36:52,063 --> 00:36:54,103
I am not the victim here.
617
00:36:54,143 --> 00:36:56,783
I gave that money away because I
wanted to.
618
00:36:56,823 --> 00:36:59,703
Why do you insist on sticking to the
same story?
619
00:36:59,743 --> 00:37:02,143
We're all here because we want to
help you.
620
00:37:04,863 --> 00:37:06,863
I'm ready to go now.
621
00:37:06,903 --> 00:37:09,223
The judge has ruled you fit to enter
a plea.
622
00:37:09,983 --> 00:37:12,503
There's no going back now.
Keep talking.
623
00:37:13,743 --> 00:37:16,463
You could seek a Goodyear indication.
624
00:37:16,503 --> 00:37:19,343
Which means that if you plead guilty
now,
625
00:37:19,383 --> 00:37:22,023
you could significantly reduce your
sentence.
626
00:37:24,183 --> 00:37:25,903
I'm not interested.
627
00:37:25,943 --> 00:37:28,663
It could be the difference between
10 and 18 years.
628
00:37:28,703 --> 00:37:32,183
But my hands are tied unless you
start talking.
629
00:37:43,663 --> 00:37:45,663
What did you say to them? Dad...
630
00:37:46,983 --> 00:37:49,343
Jake?
I'm sorry. I did all I could.
631
00:37:50,943 --> 00:37:53,503
Why won't you help yourself?!
632
00:38:25,183 --> 00:38:28,703
I need you to do one more thing for
me. I promise I won't ask again.
633
00:38:30,543 --> 00:38:32,743
You know more than most what Wes
would do
634
00:38:32,783 --> 00:38:35,863
if he found out I saw you, let alone
helped you out again.
635
00:38:37,823 --> 00:38:40,743
Please, Ronnie, I don't know what
else to do.
636
00:38:47,783 --> 00:38:50,263
When did I ever take notice of my
guv'nor, eh?
637
00:38:56,423 --> 00:38:58,423
Thanks.
638
00:39:10,823 --> 00:39:13,103
Hello, Eddie.
What do you want?
639
00:39:15,543 --> 00:39:17,583
I've been set up.
Listen to her, please.
640
00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:21,863
You know what? Just let him go. He's
always been too bloody pig-headed to
ask for help.
641
00:39:21,903 --> 00:39:24,223
You can't talk to me like that. I'm
your father.
642
00:39:24,263 --> 00:39:26,103
Then act like it for a change.
643
00:39:26,143 --> 00:39:29,943
Come on, five minutes and then I
swear I'll not bother you again.
644
00:39:39,063 --> 00:39:41,063
Why didn't you go to the police?
645
00:39:41,103 --> 00:39:44,223
Nothing to tell them. Come on, I know
what that man did to you.
646
00:39:44,263 --> 00:39:47,583
I know what he stole from you.
No-one stole anything from me.
647
00:39:47,623 --> 00:39:50,823
How many times do I have to say it?
You don't change, do you?
648
00:39:50,863 --> 00:39:53,663
You're the same stubborn idiot
you've always been.
649
00:39:53,703 --> 00:39:55,743
You'd rather risk going down for
life
650
00:39:55,783 --> 00:39:59,223
than see your grandchildren marry
and have children of their own.
651
00:39:59,263 --> 00:40:02,863
And for what? Because you're too
bloody proud to admit the truth.
652
00:40:02,903 --> 00:40:06,303
I'm trying to help you and all you
do is throw it back in my face.
653
00:40:06,343 --> 00:40:08,343
That's it as far as I'm concerned.
654
00:40:08,383 --> 00:40:12,863
I've spent weeks, months trying to
defend you and I don't even know why
anymore.
655
00:40:12,903 --> 00:40:15,703
Maybe people are right and I don't
know who you are.
656
00:40:15,743 --> 00:40:19,503
After all, fraud or no fraud, it
doesn't take away from the fact
that...
657
00:40:19,543 --> 00:40:21,543
you killed a man.
658
00:40:29,063 --> 00:40:32,023
Bailiffs came banging on the door.
659
00:40:33,463 --> 00:40:35,463
All the neighbours stood watching.
660
00:40:36,103 --> 00:40:39,183
I tried to reason with them but they
said it was too late.
661
00:40:39,223 --> 00:40:41,663
That's when I called the bank.
662
00:40:43,063 --> 00:40:45,703
And they told me what I'd done.
663
00:40:47,143 --> 00:40:49,143
Or, should I say, what he'd done.
664
00:40:50,183 --> 00:40:52,183
There was an email, you see.
665
00:40:53,303 --> 00:40:55,823
From Neil Lester.
666
00:40:56,823 --> 00:41:00,303
Win an all-expenses trip to
Australia.
667
00:41:01,983 --> 00:41:08,063
Except there were all these
questions, personal stuff.
668
00:41:09,343 --> 00:41:11,423
So what information did you give
him?
669
00:41:12,703 --> 00:41:15,423
Date of birth, national insurance
number...
670
00:41:15,463 --> 00:41:17,463
You name it, I told him.
671
00:41:18,463 --> 00:41:20,463
What a bloody fool I've been.
672
00:41:20,503 --> 00:41:22,503
How'd you find out where he lived?
673
00:41:23,863 --> 00:41:26,863
One quick search of his email address
and there it was -
674
00:41:26,903 --> 00:41:29,623
out there for the world to see.
And I thought...
675
00:41:29,663 --> 00:41:32,103
if I just got my hands on that
computer of his,
676
00:41:32,143 --> 00:41:36,023
I might be able to... maybe get it all
back somehow.
677
00:41:37,783 --> 00:41:39,783
But it was too late, it was all gone.
678
00:41:41,023 --> 00:41:43,023
Deleted.
679
00:41:43,063 --> 00:41:45,383
Like I never even existed.
680
00:41:48,623 --> 00:41:50,623
He showed no remorse.
681
00:41:51,383 --> 00:41:53,383
He just stood there.
682
00:41:53,423 --> 00:41:55,423
Made me feel so stupid.
683
00:41:57,023 --> 00:41:59,583
And he laughed, you know.
Right in my face.
684
00:42:00,943 --> 00:42:04,263
I tried to get away from him but he
had me backed into a corner.
685
00:42:07,743 --> 00:42:09,743
And then...
686
00:42:14,583 --> 00:42:16,583
I never meant to hurt him.
687
00:42:17,703 --> 00:42:19,703
I just wanted my life back.
688
00:42:21,383 --> 00:42:23,863
And I've had to live with that day
ever since.
689
00:42:24,663 --> 00:42:26,783
The day I killed a man.
690
00:42:28,303 --> 00:42:30,303
Left a child without a father.
691
00:42:32,943 --> 00:42:34,943
And for what?
692
00:42:37,063 --> 00:42:39,063
Pride.
693
00:42:41,503 --> 00:42:45,023
Why didn't you tell me in the first
place? I could've helped you.
694
00:42:45,063 --> 00:42:46,743
I was afraid.
695
00:42:46,783 --> 00:42:48,983
That you'd think I couldn't manage on
my own.
696
00:42:49,023 --> 00:42:51,503
That's why you took your mum away
from me, isn't it?
697
00:42:51,543 --> 00:42:54,943
I did that to help you! Why else do
you think I left my job?
698
00:42:54,983 --> 00:42:58,583
She was my responsibility. I asked
you to come with her, didn't I?
699
00:43:02,823 --> 00:43:04,823
It was our home.
700
00:43:05,983 --> 00:43:07,983
It was all I had left.
701
00:43:10,863 --> 00:43:12,863
Of her.
702
00:43:51,303 --> 00:43:53,583
My dad'll plead guilty to
manslaughter.
703
00:43:54,463 --> 00:43:56,183
On what basis?
704
00:43:56,223 --> 00:43:58,343
He inflicted the blow but he didn't
go there
705
00:43:58,383 --> 00:44:02,103
with the intention of killing him or
causing a serious injury.
706
00:44:02,143 --> 00:44:05,463
He accepts that he caused death by
his actions.
707
00:44:05,503 --> 00:44:07,503
We'll do what we can.
708
00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:23,823
You have been charged with murder
contrary to common law.
709
00:44:23,863 --> 00:44:27,263
The particulars of the offence are
that on the 14th day of March,
710
00:44:27,303 --> 00:44:29,303
you murdered Neil Lester.
711
00:44:29,343 --> 00:44:31,343
To this charge, how do you plead?
712
00:44:31,383 --> 00:44:33,383
Not guilty.
713
00:44:35,303 --> 00:44:37,303
But...
714
00:44:37,343 --> 00:44:39,343
guilty of manslaughter.
715
00:44:41,583 --> 00:44:45,463
Mr Thorne? That plea is acceptable to
the Crown.
716
00:44:46,503 --> 00:44:48,903
We ask that the charge of murder lie
on file.
717
00:44:50,863 --> 00:44:54,303
Then I suggest we adjourn for
presentencing reports.
718
00:45:17,572 --> 00:45:50,920
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