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JACK: Previously on Revenge...
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GRETCHEN BERG: Hi, everybody,
welcome to the DVD commentary
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to episode 322 of Revenge,
"Execution."
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This is Gretchen Berg,
I'm one of the executive producers.
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And I'm Aaron Harberts, also an
executive producer on the show.
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Hi, I'm Sunil Nayar, another
executive producer on the show.
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And I'm Joe Fazzio, co-producer and
co-writer of this episode with Sunil.
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SUNIL NAYAR: Yeah, Joe and
I wrote the episode together
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and the recap you're watching
was actually written by
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Aaron and Gretchen,
who are joining us.
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This is sort of... We're the pens behind
these last two episodes basically.
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Oh, I'm not finished yet.
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It was probably Nolan.
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He's the only person
that's smart enough to pull this off.
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We own the program now.
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We don't need you
to make it a success. You're out.
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VICTORIA: Take Charlotte's hair
and Carl's blood to the lab.
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Hurry, please. A life depends on it.
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I need answers.
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Even if it threatens
the last memory of your father?
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FAZZIO: A lot's been happening.
BERG: We're letting you get caught up.
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FAZZIO: Yeah, exactly.
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BERG:
'Cause there's a lot about to happen.
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NAYAR: I guess the assumption is that
you've seen this episode already
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as we start talking about it,
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so if you haven't, maybe you should
and then listen to what we have to say.
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Well, I'm glad that you and Jack
took the time to find it.
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NAYAR: One of the things
I will say that's sad for us is that
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the actress who plays
the young Amanda here,
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Emily, is just about at the age
where I don't think
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we're gonna be able to use her
for flashbacks anymore.
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And she's so terrific.
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And so it's a bit of a heartbreak for us
and something we have to figure out
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coming into the next season
of what we're gonna do
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when we flash back to young Emily
because she really is just a home run.
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BERG: Yeah, from Season One,
I mean, she's been unbelievable.
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She's such a solid, great actress.
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JOE FAZZIO:
Interesting fact about this scene,
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the porch swing
that they're swinging on right now,
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that's actually where David Clarke
had hung the swing,
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but we had to move it back
to this location
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because in Season One,
Jack moved it for Emily
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to the location that it is currently.
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BERG: Continuity, nice.
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You still thinking about that ring?
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You know, my father actually
mentioned a cabin once.
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You don't think it's the same place
where Jack found this, do you?
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There's nothing to be gained
from indulging in that hope.
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Especially when reality's
pretty damn good right now.
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I wish my father was here to see this.
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FAZZIO:
Did they fix that headline?
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NAYAR: When we originally shot this,
Grayson was
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misspelled on that newspaper,
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and I think that we fixed it in post.
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FAZZIO: We caught it
in like another scene.
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(LAUGHTER)
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HARBERTS: Cost $10,000, I'm sure.
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Really? You're gonna make out...
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HARBERTS:
These two are great together.
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And we always love writing
Emily and Aiden scenes,
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and given what happens
later in the episode,
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Emily and Barry
really set a wonderful tone.
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NAYAR: Right there,
the second she says, "I love you,"
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you think, "This isn't gonna happen."
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HARBERTS: Another instance
where Fil Eisler, our composer,
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really helps set a great tone, too.
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NAYAR: And then in tandem with that,
another instance where Ken Fink,
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who directed this episode,
just creates these beautiful tableaus,
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these amazing shots,
and this airport scene is just gorgeous.
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We'll help each other through this.
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Of course, Victoria. Thank you.
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FAZZIO: This airport is a familiar
location for Revenge fans.
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I think it's appeared on every finale,
season finale, we've done thus far.
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BERG:
Was this the same airport from 301,
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or is that a different airport,
where we said goodbye to Ashley...
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NAYAR: No, this is the same airport
where Ashley goes away.
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BERG: So a little bookend at the airport.
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FAZZIO: Where Victoria gets
on the plane and it explodes.
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HARBERTS: And now Pascal's leaving.
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BERG: Now Pascal's leaving.
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HARBERTS:
He's really inside that coffin. Kidding.
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(CHUCKLING)
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FAZZIO: The Graysons
actually own this airport.
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(LAUGHTER)
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BERG: It's just their Hamptons one.
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I still can't believe he's gone.
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Well, at least Dad's gonna pay.
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Promise to tell me what it's like
watching him squirm...
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NAYAR: Another little fact, in the back,
that guy who's polishing that airplane
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is doing it because you're not allowed
to show airplane call letters on screen,
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and so we had to put
a guy blocking them.
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Fun little legal facts.
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...and abandoned.
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And we can finally put him
and Flight 197 behind us.
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Not until Emily Thorne
also feels the pain of this moment.
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HARBERTS: It's probably the
best hair in prime time right there,
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Madeleine Stowe, gorgeous.
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And then the orchid is something
we set up several episodes ago
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and continued through.
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- FAZZIO: The blonde orchid.
- Yeah.
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- FAZZIO: The blonde dragon...
- The blonde dragon orchid.
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Save it for trial.
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- This is Mr. Grayson's bail hearing.
- It's entrapment.
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She faked a kidnapping
and wired herself.
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HARBERTS: Where was this?
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NAYAR: This is at that
location downtown that's...
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Every kind of set put into one building.
I forget what it was called.
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What's the place called?
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- FAZZIO: D.C. Stages.
- D.C. Stages.
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HARBERTS: Yeah, they have...
We shot ourjail stuff here,
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courtrooms, police bookings,
hospital rooms. It's...
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You name it, they've got it.
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FAZZIO: An interesting fact,
this is actually the same courtroom
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that we shot
all of the David Clarke stuff
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where he was on trial back in the past.
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BERG: Perfect.
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And his wardrobe was to match
David's as well, in jail, right?
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FAZZIO: Right.
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BERG: Meaning Conrad's.
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...bail is hereby denied.
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Mr. Grayson will be remanded
to custody.
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- (GAVEL BANGS)
- (CAMERAS CLICKING)
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FAZZIO: I know Ken was
very particular, the director,
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about having a lot of flashes,
and being very dramatic in this scene.
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He calls Revenge
an opera of television.
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I'm reopening
the David Clarke investigation.
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(CROWD MURMURING)
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And I promise you
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the wheels of justice
will turn as quickly for him
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as I'll make sure they will for you.
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(GAVEL BANGS)
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(INDISTINCT SHOUTING)
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NAYAR: These last
three episodes of this season,
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especially the last two,
were so exciting to us
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because we got to take
these giant steps forward
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and get to see, especially in Emily,
so broad at these episodes.
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But to tell the audience
we're gonna get to these places
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they thought we might never get to
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is really just satisfying each time
we shot one of these scenes.
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I was beginning to wonder
if I would ever see those words.
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Here's to you, David.
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All hail the conquering hero.
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FAZZIO: All of Emily's boys
hanging out together.
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HARBERTS: We know Jill Ohanneson
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and Emily made the choice
for this dress,
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but it was exciting to see that,
you know,
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a lot of Emily's clothing
is just a little more muted,
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but for her to pick
a leopard-print, kind of animal...
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Animalistic kind of motif
was fun just to kind of, you know,
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say again subtly
that she caught Conrad.
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...squatting in his cabin.
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Turns out
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it is the one your grandfather built.
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Title transferred to your dad,
and the world forgot about it.
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Well, someone's living there now.
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Who had his ring.
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I need to find out who this imposter is.
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Yeah. Let's go.
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No, you guys have done enough.
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With the kidnapping
investigation still active...
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NAYAR: And what's nice
is Emily now has this cabin
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that she owns, in the woods.
She didn't know.
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BERG:
The rich just keep getting richer, man.
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(LAUGHTER)
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It's done?
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It's just a matter of signing
the contract, but yes,
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you are officially
my second-in-command.
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I'll fly out to meet the board
once you're back.
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HARBERTS: Karine Vanasse was
a really great add for us this season.
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She's a terrific actress,
and a lovely person,
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and she and Daniel, Josh Bowman,
work so well together.
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NAYAR: Yeah, it's funny,
somebody was asking me, like,
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"Can you guys ever think of a person
and then create a part for them?"
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And I thought, "You know what,
she was one of those people. "
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We loved her on Pan Am,
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and we brought her up at
the beginning of last season,
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and so this role
was actually written for her.
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So we were very blessed
to get her, and...
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HARBERTS: Yeah, that barely
ever happens. It never happens.
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NAYAR: Now this guy, Daniel Zovatto,
who's the actor playing Gideon,
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we also just feel is such a find.
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Well, you see it,
he's got this calm coolness
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and a bit of a sociopath in him, too.
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FAZZIO: And clearly
the LeMarchals have really great hair.
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(LAUGHTER)
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(KNOCK ON DOOR)
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HARBERTS: And Javier.
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BERG:
I really appreciate that our world...
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In our world,
newspapers are still very vibrant,
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print is still very much alive.
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HARBERTS: And in our world,
people enter
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through the back doors,
and I like that, too.
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BERG: Well, ever since Family Ties,
that's been a standard.
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HARBERTS:
Yeah, through the sliding glass door.
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Though, I guess, in comparison
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to everything else that's happened,
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it's small change, right?
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Has been an eventful few days.
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Henri, who is playing Javier,
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he actually went to acting school
with Josh Bowman in New York.
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So they kind of reunited on this show.
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NAYAR: And they discovered
that Daniel Zovatto, who plays Gideon,
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also went to the same acting school.
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Don't go too far.
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- I've got big plans for MyCIone.
- What's the point?
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It's not even ours anymore, man.
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Poor Javier's had a roller coaster of a
couple of weeks here in the Hamptons.
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FAZZIO:
I'm still waiting for an actual
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MyClone start-up company
to happen somewhere.
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Google will buy it for two million dollars.
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...you'd better have
a damn good next move.
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What's more concerning is theirs.
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The feds reopened the inquiry
into Pascal LeMarchal's death,
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and you now have motive
because they have this.
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HARBERTS: The infamous
Stevie Grayson found letter.
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That goes back, way back.
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(LAUGHTER)
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...conspiracy to support terrorism,
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perjury, jury tampering.
And they're just getting started.
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But I actually love that, you know,
Stevie came in, and left a while ago,
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and that something that she, you know,
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did all those years ago kind of
ends up paying off here.
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That's always fun and satisfying.
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NAYAR: One thing Ken did really
beautifully in a lot of this episode
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is, you can see, just
the composition of the shots,
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and letting them take their time,
and you'll see in this episode,
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more than others, we do a lot of,
we just stay in a certain shot.
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You'll see later in this episode,
and this guy's name is Linc Hand,
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who has become the most
intriguing new character on the show
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because he does so much with a little,
and he's great,
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and so we have to figure out
what we might do with that guy.
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HARBERTS: Also, a lot of leaves,
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leaf motif here,
you'll see that quite a bit.
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And this is an interior on our stage
that played over a couple of episodes.
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FAZZIO: They did a really beautiful job.
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HARBERTS:
Did John shoot this? This was...
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Yeah, John Smith.
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(CREAKING)
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(BOTH GRUNTING)
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HARBERTS: I think that this is when
we're at our best, you know,
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all the fight stuff, our stunt folks,
everybody's terrific,
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and Emily loves doing this stuff as well,
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so it was really fun
to let her kind of cut loose.
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FAZZIO: And Linc actually,
his father was like this famous fighter,
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and so he has a background in fighting,
and he loved doing this kind of stuff.
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(BREATHING HEAVILY)
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BERG: I love this music cue
coming up right here.
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HARBERTS: I love the syringe
to the knee.
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(CHUCKLES)
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BERG: Love it.
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I should've gone with you.
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I'm fine.
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He's not.
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And what if there had been
more than one of them?
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We have gone too far
to take a misstep now.
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- Lf I lost you...
- You won't.
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Good.
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NAYAR: These are the shots I really
like. He just tracks the curtains
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as we pick up
each part of the conversation,
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and carries you outside the house.
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I think it's a really beautiful shot.
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HARBERTS: People are always
surprised, too, that we shoot this
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on stage in Manhattan Beach.
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Again, it's just a testament to
our visual effects people,
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our cinematographers,
production design,
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they do a great job.
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I got results once
by posing as her patient.
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So you can't go again.
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FAZZIO:
The writing staff was really excited
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to be able to bring Dr. Michelle Banks,
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someone classic from Season One,
into the world now,
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and to have a really huge effect
on where our characters are currently.
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People are finally talking
about my father's innocence.
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Soon, everything will be out in the open.
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Including us.
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I can't wait to see what that feels like.
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BERG: Quit talking like that, Aiden.
HARBERTS: Then feel something else.
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BERG: Silly man.
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...a homeland, but not an accent.
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Nor a mother.
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After a nasty divorce,
she sent me to boarding school,
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to New Hampshire, just to piss him off.
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Inner-family fighting is just
a LeMarchal tradition.
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Well, that explains why you were...
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HARBERTS:
It's difficult to find French actors
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who have the paperwork
to work in the States,
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(CHUCKLES)
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Or even actors from Montreal.
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We've got one, Karine,
but proved very difficult
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to find someone else
who could match her accent,
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so that was sort of
our way of getting around it.
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Well, your sister's lapdog
has set out to make my life miserable,
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which makes you the better of two evils.
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Well, since Margaux's first act of office
was to make him second-in-command,
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we hurt him, it hurts her, and then
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(CHUCKLES)
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I take over.
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Now, what do you have in mind?
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They checked the cabin
where you think your kidnapper lived.
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There were signs of struggle.
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We'll keep pursuing leads.
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God, I'm sorry I never heard
his actual voice...
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HARBERTS: That's like an ER-paced
walk and talk. It's rare for our show.
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- But they are moving.
- (LAUGHTER)
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Am I?
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Call me if you think of anything else.
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Thank you.
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Charlotte, dear,
were they able to help you?
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Don't worry, Mom.
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I didn't tell them anything...
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FAZZIO: I always love seeing
them next to each other
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because it really does look like
mother and daughter.
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HARBERTS: And they are such
good scene partners.
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BERG:
Yes, they work really well together.
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Do not confuse Conrad's actions
with mine.
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After everything that's transpired,
I am still putting my children first.
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I hope you know
how much I love you, Charlotte.
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Like you loved David Clarke?
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(LAUGHTER)
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HARBERTS: But, again,
that's what makes Madeleine
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bring so much to the character Victoria
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because even if she's acting in her own
interest, you still do feel her being torn.
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I don't know,
she's a multifaceted villain.
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NAYAR: I think, unbeknownst to all
of us, when we cast this actor, Wade,
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who we love for this part,
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I will at least say I didn't realize
that he was also on Prison Break,
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I think, playing a prison guard also,
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and apparently he was awesome
in that show.
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You sad piece of crap.
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I'll say this,
I think we were shooting this scene
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when Los Angeles
had like that 4.5 earthquake.
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So we were sitting in this cell
and everything started moving around,
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and we weren't quite sure
what was happening.
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Get off me, Rinella!
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That's enough, man. Come on.
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BERG: If I remember correctly, it's a bit
of a labyrinth to get out of there, too.
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NAYAR: Yeah, there's no quick exit.
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HARBERTS: Yeah, you don't want
to be there in an earthquake.
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BERG: So Conrad was having
a really bad day,
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and Henry the actor
was having a bad day, too.
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(BUZZER RINGS)
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That's fine.
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I appreciate you seeing me
on such short notice.
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Well, I wouldn't be doing my job if I
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turned away someone
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concerned about the safety
of one of my patients.
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Now, on whose behalf are you here?
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An old friend of mine.
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And yours.
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Amanda Clarke.
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May she rest in peace.
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Who are you?
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Oh, that's none of your concern,
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but what I imagine
hasn't escaped your notice
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is the truth about her father.
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HARBERTS: So clearly, Michelle found
her way out of that storage container.
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NAYAR:
Yes, yes. If I'm not mistaken...
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HARBERTS: Or this is
a storage container, and she's seeing
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her patients in it now.
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- (LAUGHTER)
- FAZZIO: Quite an interior decorator.
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I know you locked Amanda away
in exchange for an a-list career.
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So I want the promise of your testimony,
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anything else you have,
and I want it now.
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I have records. I'll go get them.
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HARBERTS: I thought she did
a great performance here.
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I mean, I totally bought it.
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I mean, you totally think she's
on his side, and she's freaking out.
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And I think this is one of my
favorite moments of the episode.
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It just never gets old.
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FAZZIO: It's terrifying.
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NAYAR: I think we can assume
that Michelle Banks
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no longer has that recording going.
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FAZZIO: Yeah. Let's hope not.
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FAZZIO: I love the dress
that Madeleine's wearing.
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HARBERTS: And this is a moment that
stayed in from the breaking of the story
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all the way through, right?
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We didn't really ever
reconceive this death?
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FAZZIO:
And I will say we've been trying to get
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Victoria to poison someone for years,
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and this was definitely
the perfect opportunity to do it.
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...after you moved into our house
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at the beginning of summer.
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Well, summer is finished, Mr. Mathis.
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And once that toxin leads to paralysis,
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so are you.
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BERG: It's also a perfect poison
because you get to poison someone
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and get everything off your chest
as they're dying.
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FAZZIO: I think there's like
a villain store where you buy it.
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So that you can monologue
before you take someone out.
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BERG: "I want them to not
be able to fight back that well,
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"but I want to tell them
everything I need to say. "
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HARBERTS: There had been
a discussion, too, about...
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I think the director
and probably the set dressers
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were talking about what kind of pillow
Michelle Banks might have.
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And there was a lovely...
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I loved the moment where
there was some discussion
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of a cross-stitched pillow
that was going to be used.
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I think Madeleine ultimately
determined that
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maybe that would just
be taking it a bit too far.
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00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:16,851
She's right, but boy, I just imagine
a cross-stitched pillow...
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FAZZIO: Home is where the heart is.
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HARBERTS: Yeah, exactly, something
that Michelle Banks' grandmother
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made for her to decorate her first office.
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NAYAR: Then it's interesting,
I think it's in each season finale,
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and Joe, correct me if I'm wrong,
but that Victoria is so committed
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to the thing she's doing
that she was willing to die for it.
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She gets on a plane
that's gonna blow up
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at the end of Season One,
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Jack points that gun at her and she
begs him to shoot it in Season Two,
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00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:40,869
and here she lets him choke her,
and it just shows the commitment
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to what she's doing,
and the fact that she's a survivor.
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- This scene was just so terrific.
- HARBERTS: It's insane.
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And there was debate as to whether
or not we should include this end beat
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where, you know, Barry's head
turns to camera and the tear rolls out,
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debate as to whether
or not we needed it.
417
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:02,194
And I think the choice was great
to keep that in.
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00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:05,601
It was a great, great moment.
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Jack, turn on the TV.
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00:20:17,449 --> 00:20:20,782
The infamous case of
the United States vs. David Clarke
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has been reopened by the FBI...
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HARBERTS: Didn't you guys say
he's on Parks and Rec?
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NAYAR: Yeah, he's apparently
a newscaster on Parks and Rec.
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FAZZIO: We joked about having a
scroller on the bottom of the newscast,
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something about
Leslie Knope running for...
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BERG: (LAUGHING)
Something.
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NAYAR: Also, if you watch
these extras in the back,
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they're also equally thrilled
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00:20:40,939 --> 00:20:44,966
about David Clarke
getting his name cleared.
430
00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:49,872
Emily,
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00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:52,543
you did the impossible.
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FAZZIO: I will say that this scene
went through many iterations.
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Originally, it was Jack
standing on top of the bar,
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giving a speech to the Stowaway about
a heartfelt message from his father,
435
00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:05,558
and how Emily has done...
436
00:21:05,631 --> 00:21:09,294
Like something good has happened
to someone who deserved it.
437
00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:12,259
And actually, rightfully so,
Nick and Emily
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both felt like this should be a private
moment between the two of them.
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And so the scene evolved
into this very special moment
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between Jack and Emily.
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BERG: And they really have gone
on a huge journey this season.
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She really screwed with him
at the end of last season.
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And I think we did take our time
to get them back to a good place,
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which is nice.
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HARBERTS:
And it's rare, but when she smiles,
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and when it's earned and she smiles,
and it's just...
447
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,033
Emily does a great job
of mixing those emotions,
448
00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:46,467
but it's always...
449
00:21:46,772 --> 00:21:50,833
It was a great choice given
what's gonna happen now.
450
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Did you hear the news?
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It happened. They cleared him.
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NAYAR:
Because a lot of times when you
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organize the day when you're shooting,
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you like to put the scenes
in chronological order,
455
00:22:05,791 --> 00:22:07,588
you like to have an actor
have what they need,
456
00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:11,425
but Emily specifically requested this be
the very first thing up in the morning,
457
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so that she could just give
all of her emotion into this.
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And not that she doesn't give it
to the rest of the scenes,
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but her performance here
is so raw and moving,
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and so anyway, that's just, sometimes,
461
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that's how you go about
shooting a TV show.
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Aiden, wake up.
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FAZZIO: The makeup department
did an amazing job on Barry here.
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It was eerie
seeing him walking around set...
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HARBERTS: Those are contacts.
FAZZIO: Yeah.
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And he actually said that
they helped him keep his eyes open.
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So he was able to pull it off
without blinking.
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HARBERTS: And I just love the choice
to keep his mouth open a little bit,
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like you don't see that ever on TV,
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00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:53,632
and this was crazy
that day, watching that.
471
00:22:53,805 --> 00:22:55,432
FAZZIO: Very haunting.
472
00:23:04,349 --> 00:23:06,783
HARBERTS: Now this is really
a rare shot for Revenge.
473
00:23:06,852 --> 00:23:09,116
- This is basically... It is a oner.
- NAYAR: It's a oner.
474
00:23:09,287 --> 00:23:10,879
HARBERTS: And we don't ever cut,
475
00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:16,890
and it's just not a luxury
that we often get to do on the show.
476
00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:18,957
Very effective here.
477
00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:23,064
More than I ever loved anybody.
478
00:23:23,969 --> 00:23:25,163
I know.
479
00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:30,205
We could've had a life together.
480
00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:34,671
NAYAR: And as we were talking
about the end of the season,
481
00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:37,107
and we knew the intention
was to clear David's name,
482
00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:38,609
we realized that what had to happen
483
00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:41,243
was she had to be re-energized
for revenge in some context.
484
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,447
And sadly, the great love of her life
in the present was Aiden,
485
00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:47,583
and that's kind of what you're
seeing here, is that fire getting relit
486
00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:50,194
because she had just learned
her father's name was cleared.
487
00:23:50,328 --> 00:23:51,920
...because he loved you.
488
00:23:53,131 --> 00:23:55,258
And not even you could've stopped him.
489
00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:57,267
I pulled him back, Nolan.
490
00:23:57,936 --> 00:23:59,130
He was gone.
491
00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:00,865
HARBERTS:
And people don't realize, you know,
492
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,272
how many things go into deciding
who's leaving, who's coming,
493
00:24:04,342 --> 00:24:06,071
and in this situation as well,
494
00:24:06,244 --> 00:24:08,508
Barry had booked a pilot,
495
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,508
and was shooting
this pilot concurrently,
496
00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:15,349
so he'd leave for a day or two,
and shoot, and come back,
497
00:24:15,687 --> 00:24:18,417
and that's a series
that is actually picked up,
498
00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:19,718
and it will be on the air in the fall.
499
00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:24,660
But, you know, again, we just don't go
into these things willy-nilly.
500
00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:27,697
A lot of different... There are always
a lot of moving pieces,
501
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,597
although I do think
that at the end of the day,
502
00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,795
as sad as we were to lose Barry
and are to lose Barry,
503
00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:37,306
I think it was something the show
needed to do to just kind of,
504
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:41,639
like Sunil was saying,
really take Emily to a new place.
505
00:24:46,284 --> 00:24:48,878
(SIGHS)
I just don't understand.
506
00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:52,521
Why would Emily let
the authorities believe
507
00:24:52,591 --> 00:24:54,923
that Aiden's death was a suicide?
508
00:24:56,928 --> 00:24:58,919
There's only one reason.
509
00:25:00,232 --> 00:25:03,099
Emily knows this was Victoria.
510
00:25:04,736 --> 00:25:06,931
She wants her all to herself.
511
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,569
You don't think that she might...
512
00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:13,678
FAZZIO: It's always great when
Gabe is given the opportunity
513
00:25:13,745 --> 00:25:17,738
to go there with his character,
to see Nolan cry, a fan favorite,
514
00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:20,284
is always a powerful
moment for the viewing audience,
515
00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:21,842
and Gabe always brings it.
516
00:25:22,053 --> 00:25:24,647
NAYAR: And also for the audience
to also realize and remember
517
00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:26,987
what a great bond he
and Aiden had, you know,
518
00:25:27,058 --> 00:25:29,356
Aiden wasn't just Emily-specific
as the show went on.
519
00:25:29,728 --> 00:25:32,026
The two of them
were so good together, too.
520
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:37,457
HARBERTS: Nick and Gabe, too,
are always, always great together.
521
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,471
They make great scene partners, too.
522
00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:42,763
FAZZIO:
This was also pretty rare, for Revenge
523
00:25:42,841 --> 00:25:44,741
to do the voiceover over another shot,
524
00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,308
but I just found it very...
525
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,744
One of our most powerful moments
of the episode.
526
00:25:50,148 --> 00:25:52,343
NAYAR: Well, it's funny 'cause that shot
was originally conceived...
527
00:25:52,417 --> 00:25:53,850
It would start in her bed
and pull out the window.
528
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:56,410
We decided actually we'll reverse it
and just show you her bed at the end
529
00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:58,718
because it just showed more
that she wasn't there.
530
00:25:59,024 --> 00:26:01,151
You're an accomplice to murder.
531
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:02,659
BERG:
You're in so much trouble, Michelle.
532
00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:03,955
Something has to be done about that.
533
00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:05,628
I don't know what you're talking about.
534
00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:08,331
HARBERTS:
I just want to know Michelle's
535
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,231
internal monologue at this point,
536
00:26:10,335 --> 00:26:13,736
because I would definitely need
a Depends undergarment.
537
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,940
BERG: Is there enough
anti-anxiety medication
538
00:26:17,008 --> 00:26:19,067
for the last few days
in this woman's life?
539
00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:21,009
HARBERTS: She's had a terrible week.
540
00:26:21,446 --> 00:26:23,880
I swear, I didn't have any idea
what she had planned.
541
00:26:23,949 --> 00:26:25,974
I just did what Victoria told me to do.
542
00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:28,582
(SCOFFS) Like you always did.
543
00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,149
(GASPS)
544
00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:33,156
- Let me see my dad.
- No.
545
00:26:34,025 --> 00:26:35,788
Because you'd only
be pretending to be good.
546
00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:39,829
Like your dad pretended
to be a good father.
547
00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:42,423
But he was a good father.
548
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:45,664
You know the truth.
549
00:26:46,471 --> 00:26:47,995
What did he do?
550
00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:50,998
He hurt people.
551
00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:53,070
DR. BANKS: Go on.
552
00:26:55,046 --> 00:26:56,308
He killed people.
553
00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:59,179
NAYAR: She's so good. This girl.
554
00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:01,951
And he lied.
555
00:27:03,254 --> 00:27:04,585
Good girl.
556
00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,186
You would be wise to remember that.
557
00:27:07,425 --> 00:27:09,086
No. No, no, no.
558
00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,218
No!
559
00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:12,556
FAZZIO: Michelle Banks really was evil.
560
00:27:12,897 --> 00:27:14,125
BERG: Yeah.
561
00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:17,130
She wanted a practice
of her own, I guess.
562
00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:19,399
They destroyed David.
563
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:25,767
And you destroyed his daughter.
564
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:29,412
NAYAR:
And again that's a pretty huge moment.
565
00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:33,144
I mean, she's admitting
who she is to someone.
566
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,682
Sorry's not enough.
567
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:44,318
"When desire has conceived,
it gives birth to sin.
568
00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:49,231
"And sin, when it is fully grown..."
569
00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:54,699
HARBERTS: Conrad had a lot
of faith-based stories this season.
570
00:27:54,806 --> 00:27:56,797
- FAZZIO: He did. He did.
- With Father Paul, and...
571
00:27:59,711 --> 00:28:02,839
FAZZIO: That episode ended
with Conrad going to the church
572
00:28:02,914 --> 00:28:04,438
asking for redemption.
573
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:07,017
- It's kind of fun to see him full circle.
- HARBERTS: Full circle.
574
00:28:07,218 --> 00:28:09,948
BERG: But for Conrad,
it just doesn't seem to stick ever.
575
00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:13,456
And then he's offered another way out
and he takes it.
576
00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:15,920
My God.
577
00:28:17,796 --> 00:28:20,094
Why are my wants so fathomless?
578
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,293
We all have wants, Grayson.
579
00:28:24,969 --> 00:28:27,096
They just come with a price.
580
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:43,887
BERG: I really love this scene.
I love this scene.
581
00:28:43,955 --> 00:28:46,856
HARBERTS:
Charlotte cannot win again. Just...
582
00:28:46,991 --> 00:28:49,983
BERG: But I love that she's just,
like, "Don't even try."
583
00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:53,030
Despite all of the bad blood
between us...
584
00:28:53,098 --> 00:28:56,226
BERG: I mean, she doesn't have
a lot of support, it seems like,
585
00:28:56,301 --> 00:28:57,768
she was just kidnapped,
586
00:28:57,869 --> 00:29:00,429
and she's sitting outside
alone in a blanket.
587
00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:01,494
HARBERTS: Poor thing.
588
00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,838
Because Jack found this at the cabin.
589
00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:08,335
I'm pretty sure
it belonged to your father.
590
00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:11,881
FAZZIO: I will say,
this scene really speaks
591
00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:14,350
to Emily VanCamp's
talent as an actress,
592
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:15,852
to be able to play the whole scene,
593
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,912
and to go through a few different
ranges of emotion with sunglasses,
594
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:21,049
such giant sunglasses on,
covering her face.
595
00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:22,923
It's really impressive.
596
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:27,021
BERG: Also, what I like about it is
it makes sense for this scene,
597
00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:30,295
where she doesn't, I'm assuming,
she's not wanting her sister
598
00:29:30,368 --> 00:29:33,701
to recognize her in this
very vulnerable moment, too,
599
00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,467
so she feels like
she has to put a block up,
600
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:37,838
or it reads that she needs to have
a block up between the two of them,
601
00:29:37,942 --> 00:29:39,239
which I like.
602
00:29:39,477 --> 00:29:42,469
FAZZIO: I think she's also covering
that giant scar that she had on her.
603
00:29:42,547 --> 00:29:44,344
(LAUGHTER)
604
00:29:51,156 --> 00:29:53,090
HARBERTS: This scene
makes me want to vomit,
605
00:29:53,158 --> 00:29:55,752
only because I had
a horrible absinthe experience,
606
00:29:55,827 --> 00:30:01,561
and every time I see it, I literally just,
I gag every time I watch it,
607
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:03,092
but I do love the bar.
608
00:30:03,234 --> 00:30:05,828
I mean, again,
testament to our production design
609
00:30:05,904 --> 00:30:10,864
and our art department team.
It's a great space.
610
00:30:12,343 --> 00:30:15,039
FAZZIO: It was actually shot at
The Edison, downtown Los Angeles,
611
00:30:15,113 --> 00:30:17,741
and The Edison is known
for their absinthe,
612
00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:20,446
so that's actually their equipment
that they're using.
613
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:25,021
HARBERTS: Well, hopefully they'll give
us free drinks or something for the ad.
614
00:30:25,356 --> 00:30:27,187
I won't have the absinthe.
615
00:30:27,258 --> 00:30:28,247
You...
616
00:30:28,726 --> 00:30:30,159
I may not have seen you in 10 years,
617
00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:31,217
but I know how you operate.
618
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:36,063
I actually think, too,
like these two villainous guys together,
619
00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:37,692
I mean, each with their own agendas,
620
00:30:37,802 --> 00:30:42,535
I think it's gonna be fun to watch
this storyline play out in Season Four.
621
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,472
I think Daniel,
the guy who plays Gideon,
622
00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:50,241
is really gonna bring
something fun to the party.
623
00:30:50,982 --> 00:30:53,382
BERG: And what I love about
Josh, too, it's interesting,
624
00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:57,717
there are a lot of actors who are afraid
of people not liking them,
625
00:30:57,822 --> 00:31:01,781
but he has embraced
being that evil jerk this year,
626
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,794
and he does it with such deliciousness.
627
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,524
He's so fun to watch,
and he's so fun to write for.
628
00:31:06,598 --> 00:31:09,795
If you must know, I despise her
almost as much as I despise you.
629
00:31:10,835 --> 00:31:13,599
NAYAR: And this scene, I think,
is another oner, if you notice.
630
00:31:13,671 --> 00:31:16,970
Again, Ken, who directed it,
and John who shot the episode,
631
00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:19,566
they just moved the camera so well
that you don't notice it really,
632
00:31:19,644 --> 00:31:22,044
but it's so elegantly done.
633
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,473
And it keeps the pace up,
and then here's leaves.
634
00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:26,241
FAZZIO: Leaves.
HARBERTS: More leaves.
635
00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,648
FAZZIO: I will say that,
as we were shooting this episode,
636
00:31:33,791 --> 00:31:36,021
Sunil and I kept looking
to each other on set
637
00:31:36,127 --> 00:31:38,288
and in shock and awe
638
00:31:38,363 --> 00:31:42,231
that we were able to do some
of the scenes we pitched earlier on.
639
00:31:42,367 --> 00:31:43,664
And this is just one of those scenes
640
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:46,465
that we could not believe
we were actually shooting.
641
00:31:47,672 --> 00:31:49,572
NAYAR: We only shot two scenes
our very last day of shooting,
642
00:31:49,641 --> 00:31:51,108
this was the first one
643
00:31:51,209 --> 00:31:54,178
and then there's one later,
which we will see,
644
00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:55,610
but it was great
because it was also the first time
645
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,204
we really shot at what would be
a movie pace.
646
00:31:57,315 --> 00:32:00,216
We shot basically two pages of script
in a 13-hour night,
647
00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:03,345
and I thought,
"I'm glad I work in television."
648
00:32:03,888 --> 00:32:04,877
HARBERTS:
This was a fun night though,
649
00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:06,651
'cause a lot of
the writing staff came out,
650
00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:13,725
and a lot of work, a lot of hard work
goes into shooting 22 episodes.
651
00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:17,757
And so it was one of those
exciting days when this was our...
652
00:32:17,835 --> 00:32:19,166
This was when we wrapped.
653
00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:20,226
I should kill you right now.
654
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,233
I'd get away with it.
655
00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:26,001
This scene, too,
it was always the same conceptually,
656
00:32:26,144 --> 00:32:31,013
but it had its evolution, too.
657
00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:34,208
NAYAR: Yeah, 'cause almost,
at one point in time,
658
00:32:34,285 --> 00:32:35,411
we first started talking about it,
659
00:32:35,486 --> 00:32:37,420
this was almost gonna be
the last scene.
660
00:32:37,522 --> 00:32:39,820
- FAZZIO: Yes. Mm-hmm.
- Of the episode.
661
00:32:40,391 --> 00:32:43,360
...and moves into the house next door
to seek revenge.
662
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:46,927
FAZZIO: But it's just so poetic
to have their final face-off
663
00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:49,157
over the grave of David Clarke.
664
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,568
HARBERTS:
Also, there had been talk, at one point,
665
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:53,365
that she was gonna bury her alive.
666
00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:55,269
NAYAR: That's right.
FAZZIO: That's true.
667
00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:59,233
HARBERTS: It went through
lots of different iterations.
668
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,004
I'm not digging up my father's grave.
669
00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:07,377
But I think it always ended
with a shovel to the head.
670
00:33:12,256 --> 00:33:15,851
NAYAR: This was the moment that
I was amazed at what we were doing.
671
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,951
And loved it.
672
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:23,994
FAZZIO: I still get goosebumps
when that happens.
673
00:33:24,736 --> 00:33:26,431
NAYAR: It's funny
'cause I'm new to Twitter,
674
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:29,529
but this was the first episode
I followed as it was online,
675
00:33:29,607 --> 00:33:34,010
and to see that moment explode
on social media was unbelievable.
676
00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:39,581
FAZZIO: Props to Gretchen Berg
there for pointing out
677
00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:42,175
that when someone
finds a wet cell phone,
678
00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:45,381
they put it in dry rice to dry it out.
679
00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:47,853
It's a nice moment.
680
00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:50,993
BERG: I always like to help
teach America a little lesson
681
00:33:51,062 --> 00:33:52,825
- if they don't know something.
- (LAUGHTER)
682
00:33:52,964 --> 00:33:55,125
I didn't want you to get
your hopes up unnecessarily.
683
00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:57,064
I wanted to make sure
it was really David's first.
684
00:33:57,235 --> 00:33:58,600
So you went to Emily?
685
00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:00,635
She has nothing to do with this.
686
00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:01,967
He's my father.
687
00:34:03,141 --> 00:34:04,438
What are you hiding from me, Jack?
688
00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:06,500
Tell me once and for all.
689
00:34:08,012 --> 00:34:09,536
NAYAR: Poor Charlotte.
690
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:12,615
BERG:
Poor Jack. I feel like it's really hard
691
00:34:12,683 --> 00:34:14,742
to keep other people's secrets for them.
692
00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:18,618
HARBERTS: This was another
moment where we built
693
00:34:18,689 --> 00:34:22,455
the sequence a couple different ways,
but again it's... Poor Jack.
694
00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:25,121
I mean, he was such the hero
of the prior episode
695
00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:29,256
for going against his conscience
and getting involved in this plan,
696
00:34:29,367 --> 00:34:31,494
and now it's just
gonna bite him in the butt.
697
00:34:31,936 --> 00:34:33,403
I have to go.
698
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,239
And how many
different ways did we try to pitch
699
00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:46,146
on how to know it was Jack's car?
700
00:34:46,217 --> 00:34:48,242
We had pictures, we had bills,
we had...
701
00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:50,344
- NAYAR: The car seat, maybe.
- Car seat.
702
00:34:50,788 --> 00:34:52,312
NAYAR:
Carl was gonna be sitting in there.
703
00:34:52,657 --> 00:34:53,681
BERG: Showered in glass.
704
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,453
FAZZIO: The window would've
been cracked, don't worry.
705
00:34:56,060 --> 00:34:57,118
BERG: Yeah, that's true.
706
00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,594
Visitor exit. Gate A.
707
00:34:58,663 --> 00:34:59,652
(BUZZER)
708
00:35:04,502 --> 00:35:05,833
NAYAR: I love it, too.
709
00:35:05,903 --> 00:35:08,428
(SIGHS) And to think
I was expecting another beating.
710
00:35:08,506 --> 00:35:10,098
HARBERTS:
I just love his performance here.
711
00:35:10,174 --> 00:35:11,198
NAYAR: It's so great.
712
00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:15,505
HARBERTS: And what is it?
In your checking account? Love that.
713
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:18,441
NAYAR: And again,
this is another scene that's just a oner.
714
00:35:18,883 --> 00:35:20,908
Very elegantly constructed,
shot beautifully.
715
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,679
FAZZIO: And I told Ken it was
a beautiful homage to The Exorcist.
716
00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:25,179
HARBERTS: Absolutely, yeah.
717
00:35:25,256 --> 00:35:29,056
FAZZIO: The giant hat, the priest,
the light, it was amazing.
718
00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:38,563
And this is another oner actually.
719
00:35:39,604 --> 00:35:40,969
HARBERTS: No way! Wow.
720
00:35:41,205 --> 00:35:43,105
FAZZIO: It cuts to Margaux, but...
721
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:47,544
BERG: Aaron, was that...
Is this you after absinthe?
722
00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:48,805
HARBERTS: This was tough to take
723
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,441
because that's exactly how I looked
after a night of absinthe.
724
00:35:53,117 --> 00:35:54,880
I did not have a dead...
725
00:35:55,019 --> 00:35:57,419
I did not have
a dead redhead in my bed,
726
00:35:57,488 --> 00:36:00,116
but yes, I was in pain.
727
00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:01,317
Oh, that's a relief.
728
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,918
FAZZIO:
You notice he specified redhead.
729
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:05,986
(LAUGHTER)
730
00:36:06,597 --> 00:36:08,326
HARBERTS: Right, right, exactly.
731
00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:11,661
Hey, now that we're both up,
732
00:36:11,769 --> 00:36:14,135
I hate to let a suite
at the Sassen go to waste.
733
00:36:14,205 --> 00:36:17,663
HARBERTS: Of course, Sassen being
a shout-out to Steve Sassen,
734
00:36:17,775 --> 00:36:22,235
our fantastic producer.
735
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:26,742
NOLAN: Wait.
736
00:36:27,218 --> 00:36:28,207
(SCOFFS)
737
00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:29,950
Is she...
738
00:36:30,454 --> 00:36:31,443
Did you...
739
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:32,613
I didn't do it.
740
00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:34,588
I paid her in coke, per her request.
741
00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:39,019
BERG: What a millennial.
He's so, like, "I didn't do it.
742
00:36:39,096 --> 00:36:41,894
"I just gave her a bunch of coke,
she did it on her own, not my fault. "
743
00:36:42,266 --> 00:36:45,099
NAYAR: I also like, "That was
her request. " "I can pay you cash. "
744
00:36:45,169 --> 00:36:47,797
- "I'd rather have the coke."
- HARBERTS: "I'd rather have the blow."
745
00:36:47,872 --> 00:36:49,362
(LAUGHING)
746
00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:51,363
Well, it is now.
747
00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:54,538
HARBERTS:
This scene was shortened quite a bit.
748
00:36:54,912 --> 00:36:57,176
It had a lot of components,
but at the end of the day,
749
00:36:57,315 --> 00:37:00,079
we just kind of chopped
a good chunk of it out,
750
00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:02,142
or started it later
751
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,148
and just moved things along
a little bit more.
752
00:37:08,793 --> 00:37:10,192
Jack Porter?
753
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:12,455
Is everything okay?
754
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:13,619
I'm afraid not.
755
00:37:13,798 --> 00:37:15,390
We have reason to believe
that you have information
756
00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:17,229
about the abduction
of Charlotte Clarke.
757
00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:18,961
We're gonna need you
to come down to the station
758
00:37:19,337 --> 00:37:20,326
for some questioning.
759
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,067
FAZZIO: I will admit that I called
my brother, who's a police officer,
760
00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:28,168
to ask, "If you thought someone
was a suspect, would you arrest them,
761
00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:29,372
"or would you just approach them
762
00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:31,108
"and ask them
to come down for questioning?"
763
00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:33,375
So shout-out to my brother,
thank you, Frank.
764
00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:35,017
Officer Frank.
765
00:37:37,154 --> 00:37:39,486
BERG: Now did he advise
you though if you were in,
766
00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:42,418
you were actually in Jack's situation,
if you should run the other way?
767
00:37:42,493 --> 00:37:45,053
- (LAUGHTER)
- Should we like...
768
00:37:46,897 --> 00:37:49,297
HARBERTS: This is very Exorcist.
NAYAR: This is also great.
769
00:37:49,367 --> 00:37:51,631
This was the last scene we shot
of the entire season, and...
770
00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:53,602
- HARBERTS: Who picked the song?
- This was Joe.
771
00:37:54,038 --> 00:37:57,303
This is Joe's beautiful inspiration.
It's so perfect.
772
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,766
FAZZIO:
And Henry really nailed it.
773
00:37:59,877 --> 00:38:02,107
NAYAR: Henry really did nail it.
774
00:38:03,014 --> 00:38:05,141
FAZZIO: What time was this, Sunil?
Like 4:00 a.m.?
775
00:38:05,216 --> 00:38:07,207
NAYAR:
We were getting to dawn, yeah.
776
00:38:07,652 --> 00:38:09,677
It was just
so beautiful out there though.
777
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,656
HARBERTS: I love this because the
hoodie is so synonymous with Emily,
778
00:38:18,729 --> 00:38:20,196
whenever she's doing bad things,
779
00:38:20,264 --> 00:38:24,894
so just holding it for one more beat
before we make this reveal.
780
00:38:28,105 --> 00:38:29,970
James Tupper was thrilled
with his haircut.
781
00:38:30,074 --> 00:38:32,474
He's never worn his hair short like that,
782
00:38:32,543 --> 00:38:35,273
and he was super psyched to have that.
783
00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:38,275
NAYAR: And, again,
this is the way to give the audience
784
00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:40,214
what they thought
maybe would happen one day,
785
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:41,979
but in a way they never,
ever thought that it would,
786
00:38:42,086 --> 00:38:44,247
and I think I've said it before, too,
787
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:45,721
but that's the other thing
we were saying about being
788
00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:47,917
a series regular
on a TV show, is that it's...
789
00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:51,194
It's the only job you can lose
when you're doing extraordinary work.
790
00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:55,395
I mean, Henry and Barry are both
beloved by cast and crew,
791
00:38:55,566 --> 00:38:58,364
their performances are amazing,
but when the story dictates something,
792
00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:00,267
unfortunately, that's the way
you have to go with it.
793
00:39:00,404 --> 00:39:03,237
And so, it's heartbreaking.
794
00:39:03,307 --> 00:39:05,537
And that blood did
a very nice turn all by itself.
795
00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:07,333
FAZZIO: It really did.
796
00:39:08,312 --> 00:39:10,746
HARBERTS: How many shots,
how many chances did you get...
797
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:12,305
NAYAR: Once, that was it.
798
00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:18,515
Pascal?
799
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,519
NAYAR:
And it's like at the end of this episode,
800
00:39:22,593 --> 00:39:24,151
both Victoria and Emily are bloodied,
801
00:39:24,261 --> 00:39:27,162
and beaten and they've just gone
through it, physically and mentally.
802
00:39:27,531 --> 00:39:29,158
HARBERTS: And yet both dewy fresh.
803
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:30,860
(LAUGHTER)
804
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:33,301
- It wouldn't be Revenge if they weren't.
- FAZZIO: Of course not.
805
00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:35,672
I had no choice but to check you in.
806
00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:37,506
Check me in?
807
00:39:37,575 --> 00:39:38,599
Don't worry.
808
00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:40,873
Claremont Psychiatric is the best.
809
00:39:43,414 --> 00:39:44,642
Help me!
810
00:39:44,815 --> 00:39:46,544
Someone help me, please!
811
00:39:47,184 --> 00:39:48,811
You won't get away with this!
812
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:49,875
Watch me.
813
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:52,246
(DOOR OPENS)
814
00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:53,347
What seems to be the problem?
815
00:39:53,491 --> 00:39:55,186
She just woke up. She's panicking.
816
00:39:55,659 --> 00:39:57,957
I don't belong here.
You've been deceived by this woman!
817
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:00,888
HARBERTS:
And it is true, someone on that
818
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,523
Bravo TV show, The People's Couch,
819
00:40:02,666 --> 00:40:05,499
was watching this,
and he had a great quote, he was like,
820
00:40:05,803 --> 00:40:08,966
"When you say it out loud,
it does sound crazy. "
821
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:10,563
(LAUGHTER)
822
00:40:12,209 --> 00:40:13,267
She's lying!
823
00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:15,144
NAYAR: That People's Couch
thing was amazing.
824
00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:18,440
HARBERTS: It's fun to watch
people watch the show.
825
00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:21,150
BERG: And it's fun to watch
families watch stuff together.
826
00:40:21,218 --> 00:40:23,550
Like households and families.
827
00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,349
HARBERTS: This is my favorite
moment, I think, of the entire series,
828
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,449
when Michelle Banks just strides in.
829
00:40:28,592 --> 00:40:31,686
But again, a testament
to Madeleine and everybody involved,
830
00:40:31,929 --> 00:40:36,093
this could go so the other way.
831
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,495
It could tip over into camp,
832
00:40:38,636 --> 00:40:41,230
and our cast is able to ground
833
00:40:41,739 --> 00:40:45,402
these moments in such a real way.
834
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:50,342
And yet, still sort of uber-dramatic
and satisfying.
835
00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:53,906
We really have a gifted group who
knows how to handle this material.
836
00:40:54,752 --> 00:40:56,014
She's Amanda Clarke!
837
00:40:56,086 --> 00:40:57,576
FAZZIO: While Madeleine
was screaming this on set,
838
00:40:57,721 --> 00:40:59,951
I know the crew was just shocked,
looking at each other.
839
00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:02,322
They couldn't believe this was
actually happening on the show.
840
00:41:02,693 --> 00:41:07,187
HARBERTS: Then Jill Ohanneson,
our costume designer, picked that coat
841
00:41:07,264 --> 00:41:10,358
to feel like a cape,
and like a superhero cape,
842
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:12,124
which really also works well.
843
00:41:12,236 --> 00:41:15,069
NAYAR: That's that,
and for those of you who are listening,
844
00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:16,436
thank you guys so much for listening,
845
00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:19,442
and what we are literally doing
the moment we stop this,
846
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:20,943
is to start figuring out Season Four.
847
00:41:21,111 --> 00:41:24,080
So we can't wait for you
to see what we're gonna figure out.
848
00:41:24,448 --> 00:41:25,881
Thanks again,
and hope you all enjoyed it.
849
00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:27,648
FAZZIO: Thanks.
HARBERTS: Thank you, bye.
850
00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:29,985
BERG:
See you next year.
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